Re: Scotson Therapy and Autism

[Guest guest]

I would love to hear from someone who saw effective changes in their child's AUTISM as a result of Scotson Therapy. It would be especially interesting to hear of positive changes in those cases where no other things were started at the same time as that therapy, including HBOT and/or dietary changes. Natasa> > >> > > Does anyone know about what causes intense mouthing and chewing of> > non-edible objects? My son did this constantly before I put him on gfcf, and> > I suspected he had pica. The physio at the assessment thought it was part of> > sensory impairment; chiropracter said sucking reflex was a way of relieving> > pressures in the membranes of the head. My feeling is it must be partly due> > to inflammatory issues because diet really helped until the calcium> > supplement mistake.> > > Zoe> > >> >> > > >>

[Guest guest]

I would love to hear from someone who saw effective changes in their child's AUTISM as a result of Scotson Therapy. It would be especially interesting to hear of positive changes in those cases where no other things were started at the same time as that therapy, including HBOT and/or dietary changes. Natasa> > >> > > Does anyone know about what causes intense mouthing and chewing of> > non-edible objects? My son did this constantly before I put him on gfcf, and> > I suspected he had pica. The physio at the assessment thought it was part of> > sensory impairment; chiropracter said sucking reflex was a way of relieving> > pressures in the membranes of the head. My feeling is it must be partly due> > to inflammatory issues because diet really helped until the calcium> > supplement mistake.> > > Zoe> > >> >> > > >>

[Guest guest]

I would love to hear from someone who saw effective changes in their child's AUTISM as a result of Scotson Therapy. It would be especially interesting to hear of positive changes in those cases where no other things were started at the same time as that therapy, including HBOT and/or dietary changes. Natasa> > >> > > Does anyone know about what causes intense mouthing and chewing of> > non-edible objects? My son did this constantly before I put him on gfcf, and> > I suspected he had pica. The physio at the assessment thought it was part of> > sensory impairment; chiropracter said sucking reflex was a way of relieving> > pressures in the membranes of the head. My feeling is it must be partly due> > to inflammatory issues because diet really helped until the calcium> > supplement mistake.> > > Zoe> > >> >> > > >>

[Guest guest]

We didn't start anything else at the time (moistly because we have already done most of it) but I don't think we have been doing it long enough to see a change in the autism, we are seeing massive changes in his shape, stance and learning and that suits me just fine

Mandi x

I would love to hear from someone who saw effective changes in their child's AUTISM as a result of Scotson Therapy. It would be especially interesting to hear of positive changes in those cases where no other things were started at the same time as that therapy, including HBOT and/or dietary changes.

Natasa

> > >> > > Does anyone know about what causes intense mouthing and chewing of> > non-edible objects? My son did this constantly before I put him on gfcf, and> > I suspected he had pica. The physio at the assessment thought it was part of> > sensory impairment; chiropracter said sucking reflex was a way of relieving> > pressures in the membranes of the head. My feeling is it must be partly due> > to inflammatory issues because diet really helped until the calcium> > supplement mistake.> > > Zoe> > >> >> > > >>

[Guest guest]

We didn't start anything else at the time (moistly because we have already done most of it) but I don't think we have been doing it long enough to see a change in the autism, we are seeing massive changes in his shape, stance and learning and that suits me just fine

Mandi x

I would love to hear from someone who saw effective changes in their child's AUTISM as a result of Scotson Therapy. It would be especially interesting to hear of positive changes in those cases where no other things were started at the same time as that therapy, including HBOT and/or dietary changes.

Natasa

> > >> > > Does anyone know about what causes intense mouthing and chewing of> > non-edible objects? My son did this constantly before I put him on gfcf, and> > I suspected he had pica. The physio at the assessment thought it was part of> > sensory impairment; chiropracter said sucking reflex was a way of relieving> > pressures in the membranes of the head. My feeling is it must be partly due> > to inflammatory issues because diet really helped until the calcium> > supplement mistake.> > > Zoe> > >> >> > > >>

[Guest guest]

We didn't start anything else at the time (moistly because we have already done most of it) but I don't think we have been doing it long enough to see a change in the autism, we are seeing massive changes in his shape, stance and learning and that suits me just fine

Mandi x

I would love to hear from someone who saw effective changes in their child's AUTISM as a result of Scotson Therapy. It would be especially interesting to hear of positive changes in those cases where no other things were started at the same time as that therapy, including HBOT and/or dietary changes.

Natasa

> > >> > > Does anyone know about what causes intense mouthing and chewing of> > non-edible objects? My son did this constantly before I put him on gfcf, and> > I suspected he had pica. The physio at the assessment thought it was part of> > sensory impairment; chiropracter said sucking reflex was a way of relieving> > pressures in the membranes of the head. My feeling is it must be partly due> > to inflammatory issues because diet really helped until the calcium> > supplement mistake.> > > Zoe> > >> >> > > >>

[Guest guest]

I have been doing it with my son for about 5 months and we've seen

nothing much - possibly nothing - it's difficult to tell with everything

else that we're doing. I'm carrying on for a while cos of the photos

that showed that his body was out of shape - just in case - also I have

asthma, I've been it's not related but I can't help thinking it must be.

It's hard to do and expensive. It seems to help more with other

conditions such as epilepsy than with autism.

Sara

[Guest guest]

I have been doing it with my son for about 5 months and we've seen

nothing much - possibly nothing - it's difficult to tell with everything

else that we're doing. I'm carrying on for a while cos of the photos

that showed that his body was out of shape - just in case - also I have

asthma, I've been it's not related but I can't help thinking it must be.

It's hard to do and expensive. It seems to help more with other

conditions such as epilepsy than with autism.

Sara

[Guest guest]

I have been doing it with my son for about 5 months and we've seen

nothing much - possibly nothing - it's difficult to tell with everything

else that we're doing. I'm carrying on for a while cos of the photos

that showed that his body was out of shape - just in case - also I have

asthma, I've been it's not related but I can't help thinking it must be.

It's hard to do and expensive. It seems to help more with other

conditions such as epilepsy than with autism.

Sara

[Guest guest]

I've been doing TST for well over a year. There have been huge improvements for

my daughter with her body. It helped sleep for a while, but, as we have other

problems now that is not such a help. her breathing is vastly improved and she

no longer uses any inhalers for her asthma ( I don't either now), her lung

capacity has increased too. When the gains stopped TST has shown me that there

was something else going on that needed sorting. In terms of the actual autism -

my son has shown the biggest and best changes - he was already high functioning,

but TST seems to have been the last intervention to push him to a position of

almost total recovery. It has been brilliant for him. Also, he had a sensitive

foot - after a week of doing the feet exercises his foot was no longer

sensitive.It is wonderful to see his strong chest and stamina that he never had.

We are still doing the exercises - both children ask for them, and both say that

they feel better, though says not as much as initially.

>

> I have been doing it with my son for about 5 months and we've seen

> nothing much - possibly nothing - it's difficult to tell with everything

> else that we're doing. I'm carrying on for a while cos of the photos

> that showed that his body was out of shape - just in case - also I have

> asthma, I've been it's not related but I can't help thinking it must be.

> It's hard to do and expensive. It seems to help more with other

> conditions such as epilepsy than with autism.

> Sara

>

[Guest guest]

I've been doing TST for well over a year. There have been huge improvements for

my daughter with her body. It helped sleep for a while, but, as we have other

problems now that is not such a help. her breathing is vastly improved and she

no longer uses any inhalers for her asthma ( I don't either now), her lung

capacity has increased too. When the gains stopped TST has shown me that there

was something else going on that needed sorting. In terms of the actual autism -

my son has shown the biggest and best changes - he was already high functioning,

but TST seems to have been the last intervention to push him to a position of

almost total recovery. It has been brilliant for him. Also, he had a sensitive

foot - after a week of doing the feet exercises his foot was no longer

sensitive.It is wonderful to see his strong chest and stamina that he never had.

We are still doing the exercises - both children ask for them, and both say that

they feel better, though says not as much as initially.

>

> I have been doing it with my son for about 5 months and we've seen

> nothing much - possibly nothing - it's difficult to tell with everything

> else that we're doing. I'm carrying on for a while cos of the photos

> that showed that his body was out of shape - just in case - also I have

> asthma, I've been it's not related but I can't help thinking it must be.

> It's hard to do and expensive. It seems to help more with other

> conditions such as epilepsy than with autism.

> Sara

>

[Guest guest]

I've been doing TST for well over a year. There have been huge improvements for

my daughter with her body. It helped sleep for a while, but, as we have other

problems now that is not such a help. her breathing is vastly improved and she

no longer uses any inhalers for her asthma ( I don't either now), her lung

capacity has increased too. When the gains stopped TST has shown me that there

was something else going on that needed sorting. In terms of the actual autism -

my son has shown the biggest and best changes - he was already high functioning,

but TST seems to have been the last intervention to push him to a position of

almost total recovery. It has been brilliant for him. Also, he had a sensitive

foot - after a week of doing the feet exercises his foot was no longer

sensitive.It is wonderful to see his strong chest and stamina that he never had.

We are still doing the exercises - both children ask for them, and both say that

they feel better, though says not as much as initially.

>

> I have been doing it with my son for about 5 months and we've seen

> nothing much - possibly nothing - it's difficult to tell with everything

> else that we're doing. I'm carrying on for a while cos of the photos

> that showed that his body was out of shape - just in case - also I have

> asthma, I've been it's not related but I can't help thinking it must be.

> It's hard to do and expensive. It seems to help more with other

> conditions such as epilepsy than with autism.

> Sara

>

[Guest guest]

Dear What wonderful news... I think you are right... that at certain points other things need to be addressed.. Tash has had really bad hand rashes and this seems to be with remaining poor circulation to her hands and toxins being deposited ... She needs to keep her body nice and warm and to wear gloves ... Using the standing punch bag and boxing twice a day has been important.. As she is artistic and spends a lot of time sitting doing her art work, this is really important to maintain her circulation.

How are Vicky's feet and ankles now?   We will be starting diatomaceous earth with Tash in very small quantities to see if this helps her skin and breathing... Best Wishes

Tracey

 

I've been doing TST for well over a year. There have been huge improvements for my daughter with her body. It helped sleep for a while, but, as we have other problems now that is not such a help. her breathing is vastly improved and she no longer uses any inhalers for her asthma ( I don't either now), her lung capacity has increased too. When the gains stopped TST has shown me that there was something else going on that needed sorting. In terms of the actual autism - my son has shown the biggest and best changes - he was already high functioning, but TST seems to have been the last intervention to push him to a position of almost total recovery. It has been brilliant for him. Also, he had a sensitive foot - after a week of doing the feet exercises his foot was no longer sensitive.It is wonderful to see his strong chest and stamina that he never had. We are still doing the exercises - both children ask for them, and both say that they feel better, though says not as much as initially.

>

> I have been doing it with my son for about 5 months and we've seen

> nothing much - possibly nothing - it's difficult to tell with everything

> else that we're doing. I'm carrying on for a while cos of the photos

> that showed that his body was out of shape - just in case - also I have

> asthma, I've been it's not related but I can't help thinking it must be.

> It's hard to do and expensive. It seems to help more with other

> conditions such as epilepsy than with autism.

> Sara

>

[Guest guest]

Dear What wonderful news... I think you are right... that at certain points other things need to be addressed.. Tash has had really bad hand rashes and this seems to be with remaining poor circulation to her hands and toxins being deposited ... She needs to keep her body nice and warm and to wear gloves ... Using the standing punch bag and boxing twice a day has been important.. As she is artistic and spends a lot of time sitting doing her art work, this is really important to maintain her circulation.

How are Vicky's feet and ankles now?   We will be starting diatomaceous earth with Tash in very small quantities to see if this helps her skin and breathing... Best Wishes

Tracey

 

I've been doing TST for well over a year. There have been huge improvements for my daughter with her body. It helped sleep for a while, but, as we have other problems now that is not such a help. her breathing is vastly improved and she no longer uses any inhalers for her asthma ( I don't either now), her lung capacity has increased too. When the gains stopped TST has shown me that there was something else going on that needed sorting. In terms of the actual autism - my son has shown the biggest and best changes - he was already high functioning, but TST seems to have been the last intervention to push him to a position of almost total recovery. It has been brilliant for him. Also, he had a sensitive foot - after a week of doing the feet exercises his foot was no longer sensitive.It is wonderful to see his strong chest and stamina that he never had. We are still doing the exercises - both children ask for them, and both say that they feel better, though says not as much as initially.

>

> I have been doing it with my son for about 5 months and we've seen

> nothing much - possibly nothing - it's difficult to tell with everything

> else that we're doing. I'm carrying on for a while cos of the photos

> that showed that his body was out of shape - just in case - also I have

> asthma, I've been it's not related but I can't help thinking it must be.

> It's hard to do and expensive. It seems to help more with other

> conditions such as epilepsy than with autism.

> Sara

>

[Guest guest]

Dear What wonderful news... I think you are right... that at certain points other things need to be addressed.. Tash has had really bad hand rashes and this seems to be with remaining poor circulation to her hands and toxins being deposited ... She needs to keep her body nice and warm and to wear gloves ... Using the standing punch bag and boxing twice a day has been important.. As she is artistic and spends a lot of time sitting doing her art work, this is really important to maintain her circulation.

How are Vicky's feet and ankles now?   We will be starting diatomaceous earth with Tash in very small quantities to see if this helps her skin and breathing... Best Wishes

Tracey

 

I've been doing TST for well over a year. There have been huge improvements for my daughter with her body. It helped sleep for a while, but, as we have other problems now that is not such a help. her breathing is vastly improved and she no longer uses any inhalers for her asthma ( I don't either now), her lung capacity has increased too. When the gains stopped TST has shown me that there was something else going on that needed sorting. In terms of the actual autism - my son has shown the biggest and best changes - he was already high functioning, but TST seems to have been the last intervention to push him to a position of almost total recovery. It has been brilliant for him. Also, he had a sensitive foot - after a week of doing the feet exercises his foot was no longer sensitive.It is wonderful to see his strong chest and stamina that he never had. We are still doing the exercises - both children ask for them, and both say that they feel better, though says not as much as initially.

>

> I have been doing it with my son for about 5 months and we've seen

> nothing much - possibly nothing - it's difficult to tell with everything

> else that we're doing. I'm carrying on for a while cos of the photos

> that showed that his body was out of shape - just in case - also I have

> asthma, I've been it's not related but I can't help thinking it must be.

> It's hard to do and expensive. It seems to help more with other

> conditions such as epilepsy than with autism.

> Sara

>

[Guest guest]

Dear SaraI think that one of the things we tend to do as loving parents wanting only the best for our children .. can be to do too much too soon or together.. When we began TST we stepped back from everything except Osteopath and basic supps of fish oils, zinc and her AEDs... I think that in doing this we were able to identify what was working and whether their were any contraindications.

Every therapy has its own unique way of developing and healing, and it is a very real possibility that two therapies which work in opposite ways can cancel out each others gains...

What have you been doing alongside TST?  We found gains slowed when Tash was very unhappy at school and was not being supported by them  and was been taunted and bullied and isolated... She always has done better when she has been happier in herself. Things got better when she left school and went to a wonderful further education college

Best WishesTracey

 

I have been doing it with my son for about 5 months and we've seen

nothing much - possibly nothing - it's difficult to tell with everything

else that we're doing. I'm carrying on for a while cos of the photos

that showed that his body was out of shape - just in case - also I have

asthma, I've been it's not related but I can't help thinking it must be.

It's hard to do and expensive. It seems to help more with other

conditions such as epilepsy than with autism.

Sara

[Guest guest]

Dear SaraI think that one of the things we tend to do as loving parents wanting only the best for our children .. can be to do too much too soon or together.. When we began TST we stepped back from everything except Osteopath and basic supps of fish oils, zinc and her AEDs... I think that in doing this we were able to identify what was working and whether their were any contraindications.

Every therapy has its own unique way of developing and healing, and it is a very real possibility that two therapies which work in opposite ways can cancel out each others gains...

What have you been doing alongside TST?  We found gains slowed when Tash was very unhappy at school and was not being supported by them  and was been taunted and bullied and isolated... She always has done better when she has been happier in herself. Things got better when she left school and went to a wonderful further education college

Best WishesTracey

 

I have been doing it with my son for about 5 months and we've seen

nothing much - possibly nothing - it's difficult to tell with everything

else that we're doing. I'm carrying on for a while cos of the photos

that showed that his body was out of shape - just in case - also I have

asthma, I've been it's not related but I can't help thinking it must be.

It's hard to do and expensive. It seems to help more with other

conditions such as epilepsy than with autism.

Sara

[Guest guest]

Dear SaraI think that one of the things we tend to do as loving parents wanting only the best for our children .. can be to do too much too soon or together.. When we began TST we stepped back from everything except Osteopath and basic supps of fish oils, zinc and her AEDs... I think that in doing this we were able to identify what was working and whether their were any contraindications.

Every therapy has its own unique way of developing and healing, and it is a very real possibility that two therapies which work in opposite ways can cancel out each others gains...

What have you been doing alongside TST?  We found gains slowed when Tash was very unhappy at school and was not being supported by them  and was been taunted and bullied and isolated... She always has done better when she has been happier in herself. Things got better when she left school and went to a wonderful further education college

Best WishesTracey

 

I have been doing it with my son for about 5 months and we've seen

nothing much - possibly nothing - it's difficult to tell with everything

else that we're doing. I'm carrying on for a while cos of the photos

that showed that his body was out of shape - just in case - also I have

asthma, I've been it's not related but I can't help thinking it must be.

It's hard to do and expensive. It seems to help more with other

conditions such as epilepsy than with autism.

Sara

[Guest guest]

Could it be the difference between HFA/Aspergers and the more classic or severe Kanners autism that dictates success?

JMO but there is surely too many issues in the more severely autistic that has nothing to do with breathing for any change to take place. Having said that my oldest is HFA and many of his issues are a direct result of his life experiences and again not really a TST issue or indeed something that can be addressed with supplements.

As I notch up the years with both my boys and their autism presentation it becomes more and more obvious that there is no one therapy that is going to sort out everything, we have seen great gains with chelation but also VB and with CBT was good, lots of other things along the way but I would be wary of anything that claims to be THE answer and if it is for some then it would be a good guess that person is as far removed from my children as your average NT, not to say they don't have issues and shrug off other peoples pain, everything is severe for those going through it.

Vicky

Re: Re: Scotson Therapy and Autism

Dear Sara

I think that one of the things we tend to do as loving parents wanting only the best for our children .. can be to do too much too soon or together.. When we began TST we stepped back from everything except Osteopath and basic supps of fish oils, zinc and her AEDs... I think that in doing this we were able to identify what was working and whether their were any contraindications.

Every therapy has its own unique way of developing and healing, and it is a very real possibility that two therapies which work in opposite ways can cancel out each others gains...

What have you been doing alongside TST? We found gains slowed when Tash was very unhappy at school and was not being supported by them and was been taunted and bullied and isolated... She always has done better when she has been happier in herself. Things got better when she left school and went to a wonderful further education college

Best Wishes

Tracey

I have been doing it with my son for about 5 months and we've seen

nothing much - possibly nothing - it's difficult to tell with everything

else that we're doing. I'm carrying on for a while cos of the photos

that showed that his body was out of shape - just in case - also I have

asthma, I've been it's not related but I can't help thinking it must be.

It's hard to do and expensive. It seems to help more with other

conditions such as epilepsy than with autism.

Sara

[Guest guest]

Could it be the difference between HFA/Aspergers and the more classic or severe Kanners autism that dictates success?

JMO but there is surely too many issues in the more severely autistic that has nothing to do with breathing for any change to take place. Having said that my oldest is HFA and many of his issues are a direct result of his life experiences and again not really a TST issue or indeed something that can be addressed with supplements.

As I notch up the years with both my boys and their autism presentation it becomes more and more obvious that there is no one therapy that is going to sort out everything, we have seen great gains with chelation but also VB and with CBT was good, lots of other things along the way but I would be wary of anything that claims to be THE answer and if it is for some then it would be a good guess that person is as far removed from my children as your average NT, not to say they don't have issues and shrug off other peoples pain, everything is severe for those going through it.

Vicky

Re: Re: Scotson Therapy and Autism

Dear Sara

I think that one of the things we tend to do as loving parents wanting only the best for our children .. can be to do too much too soon or together.. When we began TST we stepped back from everything except Osteopath and basic supps of fish oils, zinc and her AEDs... I think that in doing this we were able to identify what was working and whether their were any contraindications.

Every therapy has its own unique way of developing and healing, and it is a very real possibility that two therapies which work in opposite ways can cancel out each others gains...

What have you been doing alongside TST? We found gains slowed when Tash was very unhappy at school and was not being supported by them and was been taunted and bullied and isolated... She always has done better when she has been happier in herself. Things got better when she left school and went to a wonderful further education college

Best Wishes

Tracey

I have been doing it with my son for about 5 months and we've seen

nothing much - possibly nothing - it's difficult to tell with everything

else that we're doing. I'm carrying on for a while cos of the photos

that showed that his body was out of shape - just in case - also I have

asthma, I've been it's not related but I can't help thinking it must be.

It's hard to do and expensive. It seems to help more with other

conditions such as epilepsy than with autism.

Sara

[Guest guest]

Yes I agree, it seems to me from what I am hearing that TST may help

with some issues in those who are higher functioning (inc where sorting

those issues is the last hurdle to recovery), and helps with some

general posture/breathing/growth/seizure issues in kids, but it does not

actually address basic underlying causes of moderate or severe AUTISM.

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> I have been doing it with my son for about 5 months and we've seen

> nothing much - possibly nothing - it's difficult to tell with

everything

> else that we're doing. I'm carrying on for a while cos of the photos

> that showed that his body was out of shape - just in case - also I

have

> asthma, I've been it's not related but I can't help thinking it must

be.

> It's hard to do and expensive. It seems to help more with other

> conditions such as epilepsy than with autism.

> Sara

>

[Guest guest]

you are mistaken. I am not doing too much, too soon or together. Why

would you think that?

Tom is not being bullied and is not unhappy.

Thanks for your concerns but I'm not sure what you're basing them on.

[Guest guest]

you are mistaken. I am not doing too much, too soon or together. Why

would you think that?

Tom is not being bullied and is not unhappy.

Thanks for your concerns but I'm not sure what you're basing them on.

[Guest guest]

you are mistaken. I am not doing too much, too soon or together. Why

would you think that?

Tom is not being bullied and is not unhappy.

Thanks for your concerns but I'm not sure what you're basing them on.

[Guest guest]

Dear Tracey,

Actually, I do think that should have been a little more cautious when she

first saw my daughter. Now that I know more about the hormones issues, I can see

how clearly she was presenting (hindsight is always a wonderful thing!). The TST

whilst we have seen great gains did cause my daughter huge de-tox issues as she

does not have the resources to do this. Whilst has been lovely and trying

to help, I do wish now that I had gone to Dr Goyal first. Still, life is a

learning process and in spite of everything I am glad that I did do the TST.

I think that TST works best when the rest of the bodily functions are working OK

and correct release of hormones at the right time by the HPA axis is crucial to

this. Vicky does not have this.

Vicky's feet and ankles are still the same - I am not working on them at the

moment as the pain increased with the exercises. Again without the right

hormones we will get no-where. Growth Hormone is one of the hormones which is

possibly deficient.

Once we have this sorted, I will be upping the TST and I will expect things to

vastly improve.

I have DE too - hope that you are able to sort Tash's remaning circulation

issues - I am sure that you will!

Best wishes,

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> > > I have been doing it with my son for about 5 months and we've seen

> > > nothing much - possibly nothing - it's difficult to tell with everything

> > > else that we're doing. I'm carrying on for a while cos of the photos

> > > that showed that his body was out of shape - just in case - also I have

> > > asthma, I've been it's not related but I can't help thinking it must be.

> > > It's hard to do and expensive. It seems to help more with other

> > > conditions such as epilepsy than with autism.

> > > Sara

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