Guest guest Posted November 14, 2004 Report Share Posted November 14, 2004 Hello everyone, I feel that I should share our latest chapter with all of you since so many of our kids take Risperdal along with their SSRI, and we have just had a bizarre experience with it. Annie has been taking a small amount of Risperdal for three years with no problems. She takes it primarily for tics, but also to augment her Lexapro. It made all the difference in the world in treating her OCD/ADHD/TS. A week ago Thursday we saw her psychiatrist and Annie complained about the tics getting worse again. The doc thought we could increase the Risperdal another .25 mg, making her daily dose a whopping 1 MG (.5 in the a.m., .5 in the p.m.) Annie is on a gymnastics team and gets very sore after hard workouts, so none of us payed any attention when she mentioned being really sore on Saturday and Sunday. On Monday and all following days she complained about her neck being sore, then her ribs, etc. She is such a hypochondriac that I pretty much ignored it. But on Thursday, a holiday, she was crying about her knees and hips hurting so much. She also had an itchy rash all over her body. She skipped gymnastics and I assumed she was getting the flu or some weird virus. On Friday morning she was so much worse that I finally put my mind to it and thought that it might be the Risperdal increase, since drug allergies can cause that kind of joint pain. Her psych. had experienced the same thing once so she agreed it might be that, but was also worried that it might be meningitis. She said to hold the Risperdal, watch her like a hawk and we'd know by Sat. noon whether she was better. If she was better, she said to reintroduce a very small dose of Risperdal and then we'd have our answer for sure. Sure enough, Sat. afternoon she was fine, except that her hands and feet itched insanely. Worse yet, she had such bad tics that she was beside herself. She cleared her throat until it was very painful and she couldn't eat, her whole stomach was sore from abdominal tics, etc. I debated for a long time, but gave in to her begging and gave her .25 mg Risperdal. The tics slowed down and she went to sleep. And she woke up this morning in extreme pain and the full rash is back. So now we know . No more Risperdal. The weird part of this is that the reaction took a full seven days to turn into anything really noticeable, and that was after three years of taking it. Also, if I hadn't known that drugs can cause such painful joints, I would never have linked it to the Risperdal. And it was a very tiny increase. The worst part of this is that Annie has been having the best fall of her life - first semester of middle school and she is getting straight A's, having a ball at school, helping to teach in a classroom of autistic students and has a wonderful social life, for the first time in years. Now she refuses to consider going to school tomorrow because of the tics and is very depressed. She realizes the tics are particularly bad because of the rebound effect, but if we can't use Risperdal then we may have to use Tenex and switch all her meds around... Aaack. And she knows well what that means. Sorry this is so long, but perhaps it will save someone else a week of worry sometime. in NV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2004 Report Share Posted November 14, 2004 Hello everyone, I feel that I should share our latest chapter with all of you since so many of our kids take Risperdal along with their SSRI, and we have just had a bizarre experience with it. Annie has been taking a small amount of Risperdal for three years with no problems. She takes it primarily for tics, but also to augment her Lexapro. It made all the difference in the world in treating her OCD/ADHD/TS. A week ago Thursday we saw her psychiatrist and Annie complained about the tics getting worse again. The doc thought we could increase the Risperdal another .25 mg, making her daily dose a whopping 1 MG (.5 in the a.m., .5 in the p.m.) Annie is on a gymnastics team and gets very sore after hard workouts, so none of us payed any attention when she mentioned being really sore on Saturday and Sunday. On Monday and all following days she complained about her neck being sore, then her ribs, etc. She is such a hypochondriac that I pretty much ignored it. But on Thursday, a holiday, she was crying about her knees and hips hurting so much. She also had an itchy rash all over her body. She skipped gymnastics and I assumed she was getting the flu or some weird virus. On Friday morning she was so much worse that I finally put my mind to it and thought that it might be the Risperdal increase, since drug allergies can cause that kind of joint pain. Her psych. had experienced the same thing once so she agreed it might be that, but was also worried that it might be meningitis. She said to hold the Risperdal, watch her like a hawk and we'd know by Sat. noon whether she was better. If she was better, she said to reintroduce a very small dose of Risperdal and then we'd have our answer for sure. Sure enough, Sat. afternoon she was fine, except that her hands and feet itched insanely. Worse yet, she had such bad tics that she was beside herself. She cleared her throat until it was very painful and she couldn't eat, her whole stomach was sore from abdominal tics, etc. I debated for a long time, but gave in to her begging and gave her .25 mg Risperdal. The tics slowed down and she went to sleep. And she woke up this morning in extreme pain and the full rash is back. So now we know . No more Risperdal. The weird part of this is that the reaction took a full seven days to turn into anything really noticeable, and that was after three years of taking it. Also, if I hadn't known that drugs can cause such painful joints, I would never have linked it to the Risperdal. And it was a very tiny increase. The worst part of this is that Annie has been having the best fall of her life - first semester of middle school and she is getting straight A's, having a ball at school, helping to teach in a classroom of autistic students and has a wonderful social life, for the first time in years. Now she refuses to consider going to school tomorrow because of the tics and is very depressed. She realizes the tics are particularly bad because of the rebound effect, but if we can't use Risperdal then we may have to use Tenex and switch all her meds around... Aaack. And she knows well what that means. Sorry this is so long, but perhaps it will save someone else a week of worry sometime. in NV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2004 Report Share Posted November 14, 2004 Wow, , what a bummer! Hugs to you and Annie - it must be so hard to have this complication flare up in the midst of such a great year...life seems so unfair and cruel sometimes. You sure were astute to pick up on the possible drug allergy. I hope that the new medication 'mix' for Annie will go as smoothly as possible, and that - perhaps - she will feel well enough to attend school tomorrow. Please let her know that she is in our thoughts and prayers...and please let us know how things progress. (Ohio) and another Anne Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2004 Report Share Posted November 14, 2004 Oh , give Annie a big hug for me! Glad you shared this, I didn't know meds could affect the joints like that! I would have just said it was growing pains or worried about the flu/joint ache, etc. Just how can one become allergic to a higher dose of medication, such a small increase? You can't just go back down on it? I hate you all have to work on switching meds, I truly hope all goes smoothly! Do you think the increased tics will die down a bit, maybe the increase is just a " first part " of decreasing/stopping Risperdal and they'll decrease? Again, (((hugs))) to Annie and to you/family, I know you'll keep us updated! > Hello everyone, > I feel that I should share our latest chapter with all of you since so > many of our kids take Risperdal along with their SSRI, and we have just had a > bizarre experience with it. > Annie has been taking a small amount of Risperdal for three years with no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2004 Report Share Posted November 14, 2004 Oh , give Annie a big hug for me! Glad you shared this, I didn't know meds could affect the joints like that! I would have just said it was growing pains or worried about the flu/joint ache, etc. Just how can one become allergic to a higher dose of medication, such a small increase? You can't just go back down on it? I hate you all have to work on switching meds, I truly hope all goes smoothly! Do you think the increased tics will die down a bit, maybe the increase is just a " first part " of decreasing/stopping Risperdal and they'll decrease? Again, (((hugs))) to Annie and to you/family, I know you'll keep us updated! > Hello everyone, > I feel that I should share our latest chapter with all of you since so > many of our kids take Risperdal along with their SSRI, and we have just had a > bizarre experience with it. > Annie has been taking a small amount of Risperdal for three years with no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2004 Report Share Posted November 14, 2004 Oh , give Annie a big hug for me! Glad you shared this, I didn't know meds could affect the joints like that! I would have just said it was growing pains or worried about the flu/joint ache, etc. Just how can one become allergic to a higher dose of medication, such a small increase? You can't just go back down on it? I hate you all have to work on switching meds, I truly hope all goes smoothly! Do you think the increased tics will die down a bit, maybe the increase is just a " first part " of decreasing/stopping Risperdal and they'll decrease? Again, (((hugs))) to Annie and to you/family, I know you'll keep us updated! > Hello everyone, > I feel that I should share our latest chapter with all of you since so > many of our kids take Risperdal along with their SSRI, and we have just had a > bizarre experience with it. > Annie has been taking a small amount of Risperdal for three years with no Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2004 Report Share Posted November 14, 2004 Hi , I am so sorry! I hope that the tics calm down soon and that the meds issue gets straightened out real soon, too. I wish I had great words of wisdom to help you both. Just know that another OCD mom is thinking of you, praying, and hoping for the best. Sincerely, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2004 Report Share Posted November 14, 2004 Hi , I am so sorry! I hope that the tics calm down soon and that the meds issue gets straightened out real soon, too. I wish I had great words of wisdom to help you both. Just know that another OCD mom is thinking of you, praying, and hoping for the best. Sincerely, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2004 Report Share Posted November 14, 2004 Hello , good catch on your part to realize it could be the Risperdal. My daughter took all different doses, usually .25mg " maintenance " and up to 1 mg when her tics were bad/bothersome, after awhile a med taken long term fades into the background for me. I don't know that I would have picked that up. Is there any chance after a time off Risperdal, she'll be able to take it again? It's heart-tugging that she begs for it. Maybe another similar med will help her tics without a reaction? My daughter is having an upswing in tics, some are loud and one involves gasping that after a few days is giving her a sore throat. I've talked to her about the Risperdal, that it's here and she can go back on it if needed. She remembers though that she felt tired and low energy on it. So far she doesn't want to start back on it, she's trying to wait this out since frequently enough, the tics abruptly abate. (((Hugs))) to you both Monday morning, I hope Annie marches off to school just like always. Kathy R. in Indiana p.s. I thought of Annie this weekend. Kel was in a play and one of the cast members apparently had the flu. During the performance she'd go on and do her scene, come offstage and barf, go back on. Of course this got Kel going, resurrected her vomit obsession from K and 1st grade, but we did imaginal exposures off and on the next day until her call, and she did fine. As my daughter gets older I am more and more a fan of the imaginal exposures, they really seem to work well for her and quickly too. ----- Original Message ----- > Hello everyone, > I feel that I should share our latest chapter with all of you since so > many of our kids take Risperdal along with their SSRI, and we have just had a > bizarre experience with it. > Annie has been taking a small amount of Risperdal for three years with no > problems. She takes it primarily for tics, but also to augment her Lexapro. > It made all the difference in the world in treating her OCD/ADHD/TS. A week ago > Thursday we saw her psychiatrist and Annie complained about the tics getting > worse again. The doc thought we could increase the Risperdal another .25 mg, > making her daily dose a whopping 1 MG (.5 in the a.m., .5 in the p.m.) Annie is > on a gymnastics team and gets very sore after hard workouts, so none of us > payed any attention when she mentioned being really sore on Saturday and Sunday. > On Monday and all following days she complained about her neck being sore, > then her ribs, etc. She is such a hypochondriac that I pretty much ignored it. > But on Thursday, a holiday, she was crying about her knees and hips hurting so > much. She also had an itchy rash all over her body. She skipped gymnastics > and I assumed she was getting the flu or some weird virus. On Friday morning she > was so much worse that I finally put my mind to it and thought that it might > be the Risperdal increase, since drug allergies can cause that kind of joint > pain. Her psych. had experienced the same thing once so she agreed it might be > that, but was also worried that it might be meningitis. She said to hold the > Risperdal, watch her like a hawk and we'd know by Sat. noon whether she was > better. If she was better, she said to reintroduce a very small dose of Risperdal > and then we'd have our answer for sure. Sure enough, Sat. afternoon she was > fine, except that her hands and feet itched insanely. Worse yet, she had such > bad tics that she was beside herself. She cleared her throat until it was very > painful and she couldn't eat, her whole stomach was sore from abdominal tics, > etc. I debated for a long time, but gave in to her begging and gave her ..25 mg > Risperdal. The tics slowed down and she went to sleep. And she woke up this > morning in extreme pain and the full rash is back. So now we know . No more > Risperdal. > The weird part of this is that the reaction took a full seven days to > turn into anything really noticeable, and that was after three years of taking > it. Also, if I hadn't known that drugs can cause such painful joints, I would > never have linked it to the Risperdal. And it was a very tiny increase. > The worst part of this is that Annie has been having the best fall of her > life - first semester of middle school and she is getting straight A's, > having a ball at school, helping to teach in a classroom of autistic students and > has a wonderful social life, for the first time in years. Now she refuses to > consider going to school tomorrow because of the tics and is very depressed. She > realizes the tics are particularly bad because of the rebound effect, but if > we can't use Risperdal then we may have to use Tenex and switch all her meds > around... Aaack. And she knows well what that means. > Sorry this is so long, but perhaps it will save someone else a week of > worry sometime. > in NV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2004 Report Share Posted November 14, 2004 Hello , good catch on your part to realize it could be the Risperdal. My daughter took all different doses, usually .25mg " maintenance " and up to 1 mg when her tics were bad/bothersome, after awhile a med taken long term fades into the background for me. I don't know that I would have picked that up. Is there any chance after a time off Risperdal, she'll be able to take it again? It's heart-tugging that she begs for it. Maybe another similar med will help her tics without a reaction? My daughter is having an upswing in tics, some are loud and one involves gasping that after a few days is giving her a sore throat. I've talked to her about the Risperdal, that it's here and she can go back on it if needed. She remembers though that she felt tired and low energy on it. So far she doesn't want to start back on it, she's trying to wait this out since frequently enough, the tics abruptly abate. (((Hugs))) to you both Monday morning, I hope Annie marches off to school just like always. Kathy R. in Indiana p.s. I thought of Annie this weekend. Kel was in a play and one of the cast members apparently had the flu. During the performance she'd go on and do her scene, come offstage and barf, go back on. Of course this got Kel going, resurrected her vomit obsession from K and 1st grade, but we did imaginal exposures off and on the next day until her call, and she did fine. As my daughter gets older I am more and more a fan of the imaginal exposures, they really seem to work well for her and quickly too. ----- Original Message ----- > Hello everyone, > I feel that I should share our latest chapter with all of you since so > many of our kids take Risperdal along with their SSRI, and we have just had a > bizarre experience with it. > Annie has been taking a small amount of Risperdal for three years with no > problems. She takes it primarily for tics, but also to augment her Lexapro. > It made all the difference in the world in treating her OCD/ADHD/TS. A week ago > Thursday we saw her psychiatrist and Annie complained about the tics getting > worse again. The doc thought we could increase the Risperdal another .25 mg, > making her daily dose a whopping 1 MG (.5 in the a.m., .5 in the p.m.) Annie is > on a gymnastics team and gets very sore after hard workouts, so none of us > payed any attention when she mentioned being really sore on Saturday and Sunday. > On Monday and all following days she complained about her neck being sore, > then her ribs, etc. She is such a hypochondriac that I pretty much ignored it. > But on Thursday, a holiday, she was crying about her knees and hips hurting so > much. She also had an itchy rash all over her body. She skipped gymnastics > and I assumed she was getting the flu or some weird virus. On Friday morning she > was so much worse that I finally put my mind to it and thought that it might > be the Risperdal increase, since drug allergies can cause that kind of joint > pain. Her psych. had experienced the same thing once so she agreed it might be > that, but was also worried that it might be meningitis. She said to hold the > Risperdal, watch her like a hawk and we'd know by Sat. noon whether she was > better. If she was better, she said to reintroduce a very small dose of Risperdal > and then we'd have our answer for sure. Sure enough, Sat. afternoon she was > fine, except that her hands and feet itched insanely. Worse yet, she had such > bad tics that she was beside herself. She cleared her throat until it was very > painful and she couldn't eat, her whole stomach was sore from abdominal tics, > etc. I debated for a long time, but gave in to her begging and gave her ..25 mg > Risperdal. The tics slowed down and she went to sleep. And she woke up this > morning in extreme pain and the full rash is back. So now we know . No more > Risperdal. > The weird part of this is that the reaction took a full seven days to > turn into anything really noticeable, and that was after three years of taking > it. Also, if I hadn't known that drugs can cause such painful joints, I would > never have linked it to the Risperdal. And it was a very tiny increase. > The worst part of this is that Annie has been having the best fall of her > life - first semester of middle school and she is getting straight A's, > having a ball at school, helping to teach in a classroom of autistic students and > has a wonderful social life, for the first time in years. Now she refuses to > consider going to school tomorrow because of the tics and is very depressed. She > realizes the tics are particularly bad because of the rebound effect, but if > we can't use Risperdal then we may have to use Tenex and switch all her meds > around... Aaack. And she knows well what that means. > Sorry this is so long, but perhaps it will save someone else a week of > worry sometime. > in NV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2004 Report Share Posted November 14, 2004 Hello , good catch on your part to realize it could be the Risperdal. My daughter took all different doses, usually .25mg " maintenance " and up to 1 mg when her tics were bad/bothersome, after awhile a med taken long term fades into the background for me. I don't know that I would have picked that up. Is there any chance after a time off Risperdal, she'll be able to take it again? It's heart-tugging that she begs for it. Maybe another similar med will help her tics without a reaction? My daughter is having an upswing in tics, some are loud and one involves gasping that after a few days is giving her a sore throat. I've talked to her about the Risperdal, that it's here and she can go back on it if needed. She remembers though that she felt tired and low energy on it. So far she doesn't want to start back on it, she's trying to wait this out since frequently enough, the tics abruptly abate. (((Hugs))) to you both Monday morning, I hope Annie marches off to school just like always. Kathy R. in Indiana p.s. I thought of Annie this weekend. Kel was in a play and one of the cast members apparently had the flu. During the performance she'd go on and do her scene, come offstage and barf, go back on. Of course this got Kel going, resurrected her vomit obsession from K and 1st grade, but we did imaginal exposures off and on the next day until her call, and she did fine. As my daughter gets older I am more and more a fan of the imaginal exposures, they really seem to work well for her and quickly too. ----- Original Message ----- > Hello everyone, > I feel that I should share our latest chapter with all of you since so > many of our kids take Risperdal along with their SSRI, and we have just had a > bizarre experience with it. > Annie has been taking a small amount of Risperdal for three years with no > problems. She takes it primarily for tics, but also to augment her Lexapro. > It made all the difference in the world in treating her OCD/ADHD/TS. A week ago > Thursday we saw her psychiatrist and Annie complained about the tics getting > worse again. The doc thought we could increase the Risperdal another .25 mg, > making her daily dose a whopping 1 MG (.5 in the a.m., .5 in the p.m.) Annie is > on a gymnastics team and gets very sore after hard workouts, so none of us > payed any attention when she mentioned being really sore on Saturday and Sunday. > On Monday and all following days she complained about her neck being sore, > then her ribs, etc. She is such a hypochondriac that I pretty much ignored it. > But on Thursday, a holiday, she was crying about her knees and hips hurting so > much. She also had an itchy rash all over her body. She skipped gymnastics > and I assumed she was getting the flu or some weird virus. On Friday morning she > was so much worse that I finally put my mind to it and thought that it might > be the Risperdal increase, since drug allergies can cause that kind of joint > pain. Her psych. had experienced the same thing once so she agreed it might be > that, but was also worried that it might be meningitis. She said to hold the > Risperdal, watch her like a hawk and we'd know by Sat. noon whether she was > better. If she was better, she said to reintroduce a very small dose of Risperdal > and then we'd have our answer for sure. Sure enough, Sat. afternoon she was > fine, except that her hands and feet itched insanely. Worse yet, she had such > bad tics that she was beside herself. She cleared her throat until it was very > painful and she couldn't eat, her whole stomach was sore from abdominal tics, > etc. I debated for a long time, but gave in to her begging and gave her ..25 mg > Risperdal. The tics slowed down and she went to sleep. And she woke up this > morning in extreme pain and the full rash is back. So now we know . No more > Risperdal. > The weird part of this is that the reaction took a full seven days to > turn into anything really noticeable, and that was after three years of taking > it. Also, if I hadn't known that drugs can cause such painful joints, I would > never have linked it to the Risperdal. And it was a very tiny increase. > The worst part of this is that Annie has been having the best fall of her > life - first semester of middle school and she is getting straight A's, > having a ball at school, helping to teach in a classroom of autistic students and > has a wonderful social life, for the first time in years. Now she refuses to > consider going to school tomorrow because of the tics and is very depressed. She > realizes the tics are particularly bad because of the rebound effect, but if > we can't use Risperdal then we may have to use Tenex and switch all her meds > around... Aaack. And she knows well what that means. > Sorry this is so long, but perhaps it will save someone else a week of > worry sometime. > in NV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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