Re: Freaking Out

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-why do you assume I scared her?

What do you mean look at the results I got? I didn't have ulrasound

I'm confused............

-- In VeganMacrobiotics , Klara LeVine

wrote:

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> I agree with Simon - worry is worse than anything. In our lamaze

class, the teacher had birth reports from previous mothers and each

and every possible kind of birth happens - even with my five, each

and every one entirely different - you can hear ALL kinds of stories

and that just won't help you know what to expect - except to be happy

with whatever happens, feeling you MUST have control and then to feel

you've lost control can drive you mad and not very conducive for the

good attitude and Simon are talking about. My goodness,

you're going through the best thing (imho) a woman can go through,

enjoy it sweetie!!!!!!! Hey Reg, look at the results you got - it's

worth it!!!! Stop scaring her.

> Oh, and if you do want to be scared, look at some teenagers

today :>) Kidding, my kids are all turning out pretty darn well, even

with our fights - guess it's all part of the Grand Scheme of things.

> I was 35 when I started having kids, and there were all sorts of

scare stories about " older " women and bigger changes of down's, and

must have all those stupid tests - I did the tests, wasn't aware at

the time that I could really not do them (besides couldn't have

another battle with husband on that - he would have freaked!!!), even

had a couple c-sections, and even one spinal - the conclusion I came

to is that there are soooooooooooo many factors that go into having

health, don't get hung up on one - especially if it's already done

with - move on with joy to all the great things - like buying

gorgeous maternity outfits - and singing to that growing spirit

inside you - they say the baby when it comes out can already

recognize the voice of it's mother!!!!

> Klara

>

> " Simon G. Brown " wrote:

> Hello ,

>

> Congratulations! There is nothing to worry about. Millions of women

have ultrasound and their babies are just fine. I think it is very

important to get yourself into a good space where you feel really

happy, positive and relaxed. Your emotional state could have a bigger

effect than the food. Therefore I would not take on concepts that

cause you any kind of distress.

>

> Just eat as well as you can, listen to your body and have as much

fun as possible. There are loads of people specialising in natural

birth and you might find it helpful to contact a local group and go

along to some meetings where you can hang out with other mums.

>

> Birth is a very natural thing and women have evolved over millions

of years to produce strong healthy babies. It is rare that there is

anything to worry about. Let nature take it course.

>

> All the best with your pregnancy,

>

> Simon

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> Okay, between a conversation with Reg I'm worried that the

ultrasound

> I had might have caused damage to my baby!!!

> I can't find any information on this but what have you hear about

> ultrasounds permanently damage your baby's hearing. Or that they

will

> also frighten and traumatize him or her.

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they say the baby when it comes out can already recognize the voice of

it's mother!!!!

> Klara

This is so true! Babies get to know *all* the sounds (and emotions)

mothers are exposed to during pregnancy. We have a dog, and our sons

were never scared or even startled when they heard her bark. It was

just one of the sounds they heard on a daily basis. My friend's son,

OTOH, who was born a month before my elder one, would always cringe

when he heard a bark.

His first word, BTW, was the dog's name.

ne

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they say the baby when it comes out can already recognize the voice of

it's mother!!!!

> Klara

This is so true! Babies get to know *all* the sounds (and emotions)

mothers are exposed to during pregnancy. We have a dog, and our sons

were never scared or even startled when they heard her bark. It was

just one of the sounds they heard on a daily basis. My friend's son,

OTOH, who was born a month before my elder one, would always cringe

when he heard a bark.

His first word, BTW, was the dog's name.

ne

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Sorry Reggie ...guess I've been asking too many questions.

> >

> > I'm far from perfect ...but hoping for a healthy happy baby!

> >

> >

>

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the other thing is people change when reality hits them - this one don't tell your husband - I thought 6 months was a good time for nursing, then the baby usually starts eating solids and that's that - reality didn't happen like that at all - my first one just didn't want to quit, even when I got pregnant and even after the second one's birth - I NEVER planned on tandem nursing - even now I can't think how I managed, but managed I did - and if I didn't get pregnant with #3, I haven't a clue how long I would have continued - but at the time it did seem so natural. The other thing - I was only interested in the stage I was at - so don't worry too much of what will be, who can tell what will be anyway?? about the breast feeding, and everything else - I think (men here can correct me if otherwise) that a man feels his wife and her body belongs to him, in some ways, so maybe it's kind of a protective feeling over his, hmm, property?? (that's

totally politically incorrect, but I do feel there's a gut reaction going on) Can also be part of what men go through when a baby comes on the scene, that baby is taking his place - now that I did read somewhere - but I hardly believe the men/husband would consciously admit this, as it does sound selfish, (and perhaps immature) and no one wants to admit to that Lots of other issues, like being super tired and not really being as available to do as much as before. Your life is about to change!!!!! and that's ok, because you're mb and so you're flexible, right?? Klara Lemoine wrote: ha! If my husband told me not to breastfeed outside the home (such a good question because you know I honestly don't know how he'd feel about it, I'm certainly going to ask him tonight) I'd tell him where to go! lol! People eat in public all the time, why can't my baby? Just because it's from the breast?! Ohhh ...but I can see him thinking that's improper! Wow Klara I"ve never thought of that. I'll let you know what he says! " ...become the change you envision." Lemoine From: VeganMacrobiotics [mailto:VeganMacrobiotics ] On Behalf Of Klara LeVineSent: December 9, 2006 10:00 AMTo: VeganMacrobiotics Subject:

RE: Freaking Out not seeing eye to eye with my husband was one of the more difficult parts - in our Lamaze class after all the babies were born, we all met again, the room was divided, half nursing, and half bottle feeding - I nursed, but it put my husband off so much that I dare do that in public (even tho was covered with blanket) - having a baby will put alot of strain as ALOT changes - and getting his support is so so so crucial - I see that now in hindsight. We did a lot of compromising - Klara Lemoine <sonialemoineshaw (DOT) ca> wrote: I don't have a labour coach or midwife (yet). Hubby isn't for the midwife idea ...but I'm still looking! ;-) " ...become the change you envision." Lemoine From: VeganMacrobiotics [mailto:VeganMacrobiotics ] On Behalf Of Klara LeVineSent: December 7, 2006 11:11 PMTo: VeganMacrobiotics Subject: Re: Freaking Out have some sweet vegetable drink for relaxing you got a labor coach or midwife for help with support??SONIA LEMOINE <sonialemoineshaw (DOT) ca> wrote: Simon,What a beautiful email!Thank you so much!I think now being in the second trimester I'm finally relaxed. I'm now working on being happy and positive (my nature I'm a worry wart, and am

constantly worrying that i'm not doing enough for my baby)I had a wonderful massage yesterday that was heaven, and I've been listening to lots of calming and upbeat music. (I swear the baby loves dancing around to Bob Marley, but if I told my doctor I know she'd say I was nuts as she also doesn't believe I'm already feeling it kick about).Thank you again! I really need such encouraging emails. My parents will be away all winter, and many of my friends have moved out of the province, so I don't have a lot of encouragement and support around me sadly enough. So thanks again Simon!"...become the change you envision" _ Re: Freaking Out> Hello ,> > Congratulations! There is nothing to worry about. Millions of

> women have> ultrasound and their babies are just fine. I think it is very > important to> get yourself into a good space where you feel really happy, > positive and> relaxed. Your emotional state could have a bigger effect than the > food.Therefore I would not take on concepts that cause you any > kind of distress.> > Just eat as well as you can, listen to your body and have as much > fun as> possible. There are loads of people specialising in natural birth > and you> might find it helpful to contact a local group and go along to > some meetings> where you can hang out with other mums.> > Birth is a very natural thing and women have evolved over millions > of years> to produce strong healthy babies. It is rare that there is > anything to worry> about. Let nature take it course.> > All the best with your

pregnancy,> > Simon> > > On 7/12/06 19:35, "sinvegan" <sonialemoineshaw (DOT) ca> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > Okay, between a conversation with Reg I'm worried that the > ultrasound> I had might have caused damage to my baby!!!> > I can't find any information on this but what have you hear about> > ultrasounds permanently damage your baby's hearing. Or that they > will> also frighten and traumatize him or her.> > > > > > > > > Check out the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. Have a burning question? Go to Yahoo! Answers and get answers from real people who know.

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the other thing is people change when reality hits them - this one don't tell your husband - I thought 6 months was a good time for nursing, then the baby usually starts eating solids and that's that - reality didn't happen like that at all - my first one just didn't want to quit, even when I got pregnant and even after the second one's birth - I NEVER planned on tandem nursing - even now I can't think how I managed, but managed I did - and if I didn't get pregnant with #3, I haven't a clue how long I would have continued - but at the time it did seem so natural. The other thing - I was only interested in the stage I was at - so don't worry too much of what will be, who can tell what will be anyway?? about the breast feeding, and everything else - I think (men here can correct me if otherwise) that a man feels his wife and her body belongs to him, in some ways, so maybe it's kind of a protective feeling over his, hmm, property?? (that's

totally politically incorrect, but I do feel there's a gut reaction going on) Can also be part of what men go through when a baby comes on the scene, that baby is taking his place - now that I did read somewhere - but I hardly believe the men/husband would consciously admit this, as it does sound selfish, (and perhaps immature) and no one wants to admit to that Lots of other issues, like being super tired and not really being as available to do as much as before. Your life is about to change!!!!! and that's ok, because you're mb and so you're flexible, right?? Klara Lemoine wrote: ha! If my husband told me not to breastfeed outside the home (such a good question because you know I honestly don't know how he'd feel about it, I'm certainly going to ask him tonight) I'd tell him where to go! lol! People eat in public all the time, why can't my baby? Just because it's from the breast?! Ohhh ...but I can see him thinking that's improper! Wow Klara I"ve never thought of that. I'll let you know what he says! " ...become the change you envision." Lemoine From: VeganMacrobiotics [mailto:VeganMacrobiotics ] On Behalf Of Klara LeVineSent: December 9, 2006 10:00 AMTo: VeganMacrobiotics Subject:

RE: Freaking Out not seeing eye to eye with my husband was one of the more difficult parts - in our Lamaze class after all the babies were born, we all met again, the room was divided, half nursing, and half bottle feeding - I nursed, but it put my husband off so much that I dare do that in public (even tho was covered with blanket) - having a baby will put alot of strain as ALOT changes - and getting his support is so so so crucial - I see that now in hindsight. We did a lot of compromising - Klara Lemoine <sonialemoineshaw (DOT) ca> wrote: I don't have a labour coach or midwife (yet). Hubby isn't for the midwife idea ...but I'm still looking! ;-) " ...become the change you envision." Lemoine From: VeganMacrobiotics [mailto:VeganMacrobiotics ] On Behalf Of Klara LeVineSent: December 7, 2006 11:11 PMTo: VeganMacrobiotics Subject: Re: Freaking Out have some sweet vegetable drink for relaxing you got a labor coach or midwife for help with support??SONIA LEMOINE <sonialemoineshaw (DOT) ca> wrote: Simon,What a beautiful email!Thank you so much!I think now being in the second trimester I'm finally relaxed. I'm now working on being happy and positive (my nature I'm a worry wart, and am

constantly worrying that i'm not doing enough for my baby)I had a wonderful massage yesterday that was heaven, and I've been listening to lots of calming and upbeat music. (I swear the baby loves dancing around to Bob Marley, but if I told my doctor I know she'd say I was nuts as she also doesn't believe I'm already feeling it kick about).Thank you again! I really need such encouraging emails. My parents will be away all winter, and many of my friends have moved out of the province, so I don't have a lot of encouragement and support around me sadly enough. So thanks again Simon!"...become the change you envision" _ Re: Freaking Out> Hello ,> > Congratulations! There is nothing to worry about. Millions of

> women have> ultrasound and their babies are just fine. I think it is very > important to> get yourself into a good space where you feel really happy, > positive and> relaxed. Your emotional state could have a bigger effect than the > food.Therefore I would not take on concepts that cause you any > kind of distress.> > Just eat as well as you can, listen to your body and have as much > fun as> possible. There are loads of people specialising in natural birth > and you> might find it helpful to contact a local group and go along to > some meetings> where you can hang out with other mums.> > Birth is a very natural thing and women have evolved over millions > of years> to produce strong healthy babies. It is rare that there is > anything to worry> about. Let nature take it course.> > All the best with your

pregnancy,> > Simon> > > On 7/12/06 19:35, "sinvegan" <sonialemoineshaw (DOT) ca> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > Okay, between a conversation with Reg I'm worried that the > ultrasound> I had might have caused damage to my baby!!!> > I can't find any information on this but what have you hear about> > ultrasounds permanently damage your baby's hearing. Or that they > will> also frighten and traumatize him or her.> > > > > > > > > Check out the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. Have a burning question? Go to Yahoo! Answers and get answers from real people who know.

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well it was one of my first questions to him when he came home.

He thought about it and said

"well I don't think it's gross, and if you're going to do it you'll do it under a blanket right? I have no problem with that. The baby has to eat."

I was surprised to tell you the truth.

I guess it wasn't something either one of us had thought about (I mean his opinion).

" ...become the change you envision." Lemoine

From: VeganMacrobiotics [mailto:VeganMacrobiotics ] On Behalf Of Klara LeVineSent: December 9, 2006 1:44 PMTo: VeganMacrobiotics Subject: RE: Freaking Out

the other thing is people change when reality hits them - this one don't tell your husband - I thought 6 months was a good time for nursing, then the baby usually starts eating solids and that's that - reality didn't happen like that at all - my first one just didn't want to quit, even when I got pregnant and even after the second one's birth - I NEVER planned on tandem nursing - even now I can't think how I managed, but managed I did - and if I didn't get pregnant with #3, I haven't a clue how long I would have continued - but at the time it did seem so natural.

The other thing - I was only interested in the stage I was at - so don't worry too much of what will be, who can tell what will be anyway??

about the breast feeding, and everything else - I think (men here can correct me if otherwise) that a man feels his wife and her body belongs to him, in some ways, so maybe it's kind of a protective feeling over his, hmm, property?? (that's totally politically incorrect, but I do feel there's a gut reaction going on) Can also be part of what men go through when a baby comes on the scene, that baby is taking his place - now that I did read somewhere - but I hardly believe the men/husband would consciously admit this, as it does sound selfish, (and perhaps immature) and no one wants to admit to that

Lots of other issues, like being super tired and not really being as available to do as much as before.

Your life is about to change!!!!! and that's ok, because you're mb and so you're flexible, right??

Klara Lemoine <sonialemoineshaw (DOT) ca> wrote:

ha!

If my husband told me not to breastfeed outside the home (such a good question because you know I honestly don't know how he'd feel about it, I'm certainly going to ask him tonight) I'd tell him where to go! lol! People eat in public all the time, why can't my baby? Just because it's from the breast?! Ohhh ...but I can see him thinking that's improper! Wow Klara I"ve never thought of that. I'll let you know what he says!

" ...become the change you envision." Lemoine

From: VeganMacrobiotics [mailto:VeganMacrobiotics ] On Behalf Of Klara LeVineSent: December 9, 2006 10:00 AMTo: VeganMacrobiotics Subject: RE: Freaking Out

not seeing eye to eye with my husband was one of the more difficult parts - in our Lamaze class after all the babies were born, we all met again, the room was divided, half nursing, and half bottle feeding - I nursed, but it put my husband off so much that I dare do that in public (even tho was covered with blanket) - having a baby will put alot of strain as ALOT changes - and getting his support is so so so crucial - I see that now in hindsight. We did a lot of compromising -

Klara Lemoine <sonialemoineshaw (DOT) ca> wrote:

I don't have a labour coach or midwife (yet).

Hubby isn't for the midwife idea ...but I'm still looking! ;-)

" ...become the change you envision." Lemoine

From: VeganMacrobiotics [mailto:VeganMacrobiotics ] On Behalf Of Klara LeVineSent: December 7, 2006 11:11 PMTo: VeganMacrobiotics Subject: Re: Freaking Out

have some sweet vegetable drink for relaxing

you got a labor coach or midwife for help with support??SONIA LEMOINE <sonialemoineshaw (DOT) ca> wrote:

Simon,What a beautiful email!Thank you so much!I think now being in the second trimester I'm finally relaxed. I'm now working on being happy and positive (my nature I'm a worry wart, and am constantly worrying that i'm not doing enough for my baby)I had a wonderful massage yesterday that was heaven, and I've been listening to lots of calming and upbeat music. (I swear the baby loves dancing around to Bob Marley, but if I told my doctor I know she'd say I was nuts as she also doesn't believe I'm already feeling it kick about).Thank you again! I really need such encouraging emails. My parents will be away all winter, and many of my friends have moved out of the province, so I don't have a lot of encouragement and support around me sadly enough. So thanks again Simon!"...become the change you envision" _ Re: Freaking Out> Hello ,> > Congratulations! There is nothing to worry about. Millions of > women have> ultrasound and their babies are just fine. I think it is very > important to> get yourself into a good space where you feel really happy, > positive and> relaxed. Your emotional state could have a bigger effect than the > food.Therefore I would not take on concepts that cause you any > kind of distress.> > Just eat as well as you can, listen to your body and have as much > fun as> possible. There are loads of people specialising in natural birth > and you> might find it helpful to contact a local group and go along to > some meetings> where you can hang out with other mums.> > Birth is a very natural thing and women have evolved over millions > of years> to produce strong healthy babies. It is rare that there is > anything to worry> about. Let nature take it course.> > All the best with your pregnancy,> > Simon> > > On 7/12/06 19:35, "sinvegan" <sonialemoineshaw (DOT) ca> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > Okay, between a conversation with Reg I'm worried that the > ultrasound> I had might have caused damage to my baby!!!> > I can't find any information on this but what have you hear about> > ultrasounds permanently damage your baby's hearing. Or that they > will> also frighten and traumatize him or her.> > > > > > > > >

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my FAVORITE was when someone would say we should go in the bathroom

to nurse. RIGHT!!! you go to the bathroom to eat. This world is

insane.

My ex got used to my public nursing at first he would try to hide me

or stand in front of me then he got the 'yea right she's nursing in

public what about it?' attitude. Then.......... he hated that I

nursed for so long and tried to get me in trouble with the

authorities, LOL

R

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> > > Okay, between a conversation with Reg I'm worried that the

> > ultrasound> I had might have caused damage to my baby!!!

> > > I can't find any information on this but what have you hear

about

> > > ultrasounds permanently damage your baby's hearing. Or that

they

> > will> also frighten and traumatize him or her.

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my FAVORITE was when someone would say we should go in the bathroom

to nurse. RIGHT!!! you go to the bathroom to eat. This world is

insane.

My ex got used to my public nursing at first he would try to hide me

or stand in front of me then he got the 'yea right she's nursing in

public what about it?' attitude. Then.......... he hated that I

nursed for so long and tried to get me in trouble with the

authorities, LOL

R

> >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Okay, between a conversation with Reg I'm worried that the

> > ultrasound> I had might have caused damage to my baby!!!

> > > I can't find any information on this but what have you hear

about

> > > ultrasounds permanently damage your baby's hearing. Or that

they

> > will> also frighten and traumatize him or her.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

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my FAVORITE was when someone would say we should go in the bathroom

to nurse. RIGHT!!! you go to the bathroom to eat. This world is

insane.

My ex got used to my public nursing at first he would try to hide me

or stand in front of me then he got the 'yea right she's nursing in

public what about it?' attitude. Then.......... he hated that I

nursed for so long and tried to get me in trouble with the

authorities, LOL

R

> >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Okay, between a conversation with Reg I'm worried that the

> > ultrasound> I had might have caused damage to my baby!!!

> > > I can't find any information on this but what have you hear

about

> > > ultrasounds permanently damage your baby's hearing. Or that

they

> > will> also frighten and traumatize him or her.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

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