Guest guest Posted December 17, 2007 Report Share Posted December 17, 2007 Mark,THe Data Swtich box and software are used with BioExplorer and amplifiers that are BE compatible.Is it also compatible with Infinity Hardware?MarkMark,The Data switch is stand alone and will work with any 2 channel eeg amplifier.The sQEEG software processes the data gathered using your amp and BE.It is possible, though more difficult and time consuming, to move the electrode pairs manually like you do with the TLC assessment. --- USFamily.Net - $8.25/mo! -- Highspeed - $19.99/mo! --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2007 Report Share Posted December 17, 2007 Mark,THe Data Swtich box and software are used with BioExplorer and amplifiers that are BE compatible.Is it also compatible with Infinity Hardware?MarkMark,The Data switch is stand alone and will work with any 2 channel eeg amplifier.The sQEEG software processes the data gathered using your amp and BE.It is possible, though more difficult and time consuming, to move the electrode pairs manually like you do with the TLC assessment. --- USFamily.Net - $8.25/mo! -- Highspeed - $19.99/mo! --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2007 Report Share Posted December 17, 2007 Mark,THe Data Swtich box and software are used with BioExplorer and amplifiers that are BE compatible.Is it also compatible with Infinity Hardware?MarkMark,The Data switch is stand alone and will work with any 2 channel eeg amplifier.The sQEEG software processes the data gathered using your amp and BE.It is possible, though more difficult and time consuming, to move the electrode pairs manually like you do with the TLC assessment. --- USFamily.Net - $8.25/mo! -- Highspeed - $19.99/mo! --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2007 Report Share Posted December 17, 2007 If the connectors that run from the back of the Data Switch into channels one and two are standard safety Din plugs, like seems to say, then it could be used with the TTL encoders (ProComp Infiniti, ProComp 2, ProComp 5, ProComp +, FlexComp Infiniti). See attached picture for one setup with commun ground and linked ears references. You can use only one ground (the second one not used) if you want. They go in the same place in the hardware. You can also use the not-linked references; like the setup shown in the original picture. Hoping this helps. Francois Dupont, Ph.D., C.Psych. http://www3.sympatico.ca/fdupont-phd Clinical, health, and rehabilitation psychology Therapy, assessment, and consultation Private practice Universite/y d’/of Ottawa; Service de sante / Health Services 100-100 Marie-Curie, Ottawa, Ontario, K1N 6N5 Canada Tel. : poste/ext. 500; Fax : De : braintrainer [mailto:braintrainer ] De la part de Envoyé : 17 décembre 2007 20:08 À : braintrainer Objet : Re: QDS Data Switch the inputs for the 19 surface electrodes are standard safety Din plugs. The ground and reference electrodes plug directly into the amplifier, There are connectors that run from the back of the Data Switch into channels one and two of the amplifier (Din plugs) Hi If it is a switch box it has the potential to work with any encoder depending on how it connects to the encoder. What connectors or pin types are used at either end of the connections. Mark Re: QDS Data Switch Mark, THe Data Swtich box and software are used with BioExplorer and amplifiers that are BE compatible. Is it also compatible with Infinity Hardware? Mark Mark, The Data switch is stand alone and will work with any 2 channel eeg amplifier. The sQEEG software processes the data gathered using your amp and BE. It is possible, though more difficult and time consuming, to move the electrode pairs manually like you do with the TLC assessment. --- USFamily.Net - $8.25/mo! -- Highspeed - $19.99/mo! --- --- USFamily.Net - $8.25/mo! -- Highspeed - $19.99/mo! --- Attachment: vcard [not shown] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2007 Report Share Posted December 17, 2007 If the connectors that run from the back of the Data Switch into channels one and two are standard safety Din plugs, like seems to say, then it could be used with the TTL encoders (ProComp Infiniti, ProComp 2, ProComp 5, ProComp +, FlexComp Infiniti). See attached picture for one setup with commun ground and linked ears references. You can use only one ground (the second one not used) if you want. They go in the same place in the hardware. You can also use the not-linked references; like the setup shown in the original picture. Hoping this helps. Francois Dupont, Ph.D., C.Psych. http://www3.sympatico.ca/fdupont-phd Clinical, health, and rehabilitation psychology Therapy, assessment, and consultation Private practice Universite/y d’/of Ottawa; Service de sante / Health Services 100-100 Marie-Curie, Ottawa, Ontario, K1N 6N5 Canada Tel. : poste/ext. 500; Fax : De : braintrainer [mailto:braintrainer ] De la part de Envoyé : 17 décembre 2007 20:08 À : braintrainer Objet : Re: QDS Data Switch the inputs for the 19 surface electrodes are standard safety Din plugs. The ground and reference electrodes plug directly into the amplifier, There are connectors that run from the back of the Data Switch into channels one and two of the amplifier (Din plugs) Hi If it is a switch box it has the potential to work with any encoder depending on how it connects to the encoder. What connectors or pin types are used at either end of the connections. Mark Re: QDS Data Switch Mark, THe Data Swtich box and software are used with BioExplorer and amplifiers that are BE compatible. Is it also compatible with Infinity Hardware? Mark Mark, The Data switch is stand alone and will work with any 2 channel eeg amplifier. The sQEEG software processes the data gathered using your amp and BE. It is possible, though more difficult and time consuming, to move the electrode pairs manually like you do with the TLC assessment. --- USFamily.Net - $8.25/mo! -- Highspeed - $19.99/mo! --- --- USFamily.Net - $8.25/mo! -- Highspeed - $19.99/mo! --- Attachment: vcard [not shown] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2007 Report Share Posted December 17, 2007 If the connectors that run from the back of the Data Switch into channels one and two are standard safety Din plugs, like seems to say, then it could be used with the TTL encoders (ProComp Infiniti, ProComp 2, ProComp 5, ProComp +, FlexComp Infiniti). See attached picture for one setup with commun ground and linked ears references. You can use only one ground (the second one not used) if you want. They go in the same place in the hardware. You can also use the not-linked references; like the setup shown in the original picture. Hoping this helps. Francois Dupont, Ph.D., C.Psych. http://www3.sympatico.ca/fdupont-phd Clinical, health, and rehabilitation psychology Therapy, assessment, and consultation Private practice Universite/y d’/of Ottawa; Service de sante / Health Services 100-100 Marie-Curie, Ottawa, Ontario, K1N 6N5 Canada Tel. : poste/ext. 500; Fax : De : braintrainer [mailto:braintrainer ] De la part de Envoyé : 17 décembre 2007 20:08 À : braintrainer Objet : Re: QDS Data Switch the inputs for the 19 surface electrodes are standard safety Din plugs. The ground and reference electrodes plug directly into the amplifier, There are connectors that run from the back of the Data Switch into channels one and two of the amplifier (Din plugs) Hi If it is a switch box it has the potential to work with any encoder depending on how it connects to the encoder. What connectors or pin types are used at either end of the connections. Mark Re: QDS Data Switch Mark, THe Data Swtich box and software are used with BioExplorer and amplifiers that are BE compatible. Is it also compatible with Infinity Hardware? Mark Mark, The Data switch is stand alone and will work with any 2 channel eeg amplifier. The sQEEG software processes the data gathered using your amp and BE. It is possible, though more difficult and time consuming, to move the electrode pairs manually like you do with the TLC assessment. --- USFamily.Net - $8.25/mo! -- Highspeed - $19.99/mo! --- --- USFamily.Net - $8.25/mo! -- Highspeed - $19.99/mo! --- Attachment: vcard [not shown] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2007 Report Share Posted December 17, 2007 Thanks Francois. That helps which would make it useable for TLC Assessments with Infinity. It would be really cool if the TLC assessment could be incorporated into 's software. Mark Re: QDS Data Switch Mark, THe Data Swtich box and software are used with BioExplorer and amplifiers that are BE compatible. Is it also compatible with Infinity Hardware? Mark Mark, The Data switch is stand alone and will work with any 2 channel eeg amplifier. The sQEEG software processes the data gathered using your amp and BE. It is possible, though more difficult and time consuming, to move the electrode pairs manually like you do with the TLC assessment. --- USFamily.Net - $8.25/mo! -- Highspeed - $19.99/mo! --- --- USFamily.Net - $8.25/mo! -- Highspeed - $19.99/mo! --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2007 Report Share Posted December 17, 2007 Mark, One easy way, but not as sophisticated, kind of “in between” moving 2 electrodes at each recording and using a switch box, comes from using many active electrodes. If we talk about the TLC assessment, you first install from 10 to 18 electrodes on the head; using some method to recognize them easily by pairs (color coded or small sticker, etc). You then only unplug and plug the 2 active electrodes for each recording. Please look at this great picture (attached), courtesy of Hagedorn. It clearly shows the DIN connectors, the jumpers used to create a common ground and the linked-ear references, and 10 active electrodes waiting to be connected by pairs into the active (blue) sockets of the DIN connector. I thought this was worth sharing to give people another option. Francois http://www3.sympatico.ca/fdupont-phd De : braintrainer [mailto:braintrainer ] De la part de Mark Baddeley Envoyé : 18 décembre 2007 01:33 À : braintrainer Objet : Re: QDS Data Switch Thanks Francois. That helps which would make it useable for TLC Assessments with Infinity. It would be really cool if the TLC assessment could be incorporated into 's software. Mark Re: QDS Data Switch Mark, THe Data Swtich box and software are used with BioExplorer and amplifiers that are BE compatible. On Dec 17, 2007, at 2:13 AM, Mark Baddeley wrote: Is it also compatible with Infinity Hardware? Mark Mark, The Data switch is stand alone and will work with any 2 channel eeg amplifier. The sQEEG software processes the data gathered using your amp and BE. It is possible, though more difficult and time consuming, to move the electrode pairs manually like you do with the TLC assessment. --- USFamily.Net - $8.25/mo! -- Highspeed - $19.99/mo! --- --- USFamily.Net - $8.25/mo! -- Highspeed - $19.99/mo! --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2007 Report Share Posted December 17, 2007 I forgot to mention that the ground can be placed wherever one wants; not necessarily at Cz. Francois http://www3.sympatico.ca/fdupont-phd De : braintrainer [mailto:braintrainer ] De la part de Francois Dupont, Ph.D., C.Psych. Envoyé : 18 décembre 2007 02:11 À : braintrainer Objet : RE: QDS Data Switch Mark, One easy way, but not as sophisticated, kind of “in between” moving 2 electrodes at each recording and using a switch box, comes from using many active electrodes. If we talk about the TLC assessment, you first install from 10 to 18 electrodes on the head; using some method to recognize them easily by pairs (color coded or small sticker, etc). You then only unplug and plug the 2 active electrodes for each recording. Please look at this great picture (attached), courtesy of Hagedorn. It clearly shows the DIN connectors, the jumpers used to create a common ground and the linked-ear references, and 10 active electrodes waiting to be connected by pairs into the active (blue) sockets of the DIN connector. I thought this was worth sharing to give people another option. Francois http://www3.sympatico.ca/fdupont-phd De : braintrainer [mailto:braintrainer ] De la part de Mark Baddeley Envoyé : 18 décembre 2007 01:33 À : braintrainer Objet : Re: QDS Data Switch Thanks Francois. That helps which would make it useable for TLC Assessments with Infinity. It would be really cool if the TLC assessment could be incorporated into 's software. Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: Francois Dupont, Ph.D., C.Psych. To: braintrainer Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 5:22 PM Subject: RE: QDS Data Switch If the connectors that run from the back of the Data Switch into channels one and two are standard safety Din plugs, like seems to say, then it could be used with the TTL encoders (ProComp Infiniti, ProComp 2, ProComp 5, ProComp +, FlexComp Infiniti). See attached picture for one setup with commun ground and linked ears references. You can use only one ground (the second one not used) if you want. They go in the same place in the hardware. You can also use the not-linked references; like the setup shown in the original picture. Hoping this helps. Francois Dupont, Ph.D., C.Psych. http://www3.sympatico.ca/fdupont-phd Clinical, health, and rehabilitation psychology Therapy, assessment, and consultation Private practice Universite/y d’/of Ottawa; Service de sante / Health Services 100-100 Marie-Curie, Ottawa, Ontario, K1N 6N5 Canada Tel. : (613) 564-3950 poste/ext. 500; Fax : De : braintrainer [mailto:braintrainer ] De la part de Envoyé : 17 décembre 2007 20:08 À : braintrainer Objet : Re: QDS Data Switch the inputs for the 19 surface electrodes are standard safety Din plugs. The ground and reference electrodes plug directly into the amplifier, There are connectors that run from the back of the Data Switch into channels one and two of the amplifier (Din plugs) On Dec 17, 2007, at 5:17 PM, Mark Baddeley wrote: Hi If it is a switch box it has the potential to work with any encoder depending on how it connects to the encoder. What connectors or pin types are used at either end of the connections. Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: To: braintrainer Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 4:05 AM Subject: Re: QDS Data Switch Mark, THe Data Swtich box and software are used with BioExplorer and amplifiers that are BE compatible. On Dec 17, 2007, at 2:13 AM, Mark Baddeley wrote: Is it also compatible with Infinity Hardware? Mark Mark, The Data switch is stand alone and will work with any 2 channel eeg amplifier. The sQEEG software processes the data gathered using your amp and BE. It is possible, though more difficult and time consuming, to move the electrode pairs manually like you do with the TLC assessment. --- USFamily.Net - $8.25/mo! -- Highspeed - $19.99/mo! --- --- USFamily.Net - $8.25/mo! -- Highspeed - $19.99/mo! --- Attachment: vcard [not shown] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2007 Report Share Posted December 17, 2007 I forgot to mention that the ground can be placed wherever one wants; not necessarily at Cz. Francois http://www3.sympatico.ca/fdupont-phd De : braintrainer [mailto:braintrainer ] De la part de Francois Dupont, Ph.D., C.Psych. Envoyé : 18 décembre 2007 02:11 À : braintrainer Objet : RE: QDS Data Switch Mark, One easy way, but not as sophisticated, kind of “in between” moving 2 electrodes at each recording and using a switch box, comes from using many active electrodes. If we talk about the TLC assessment, you first install from 10 to 18 electrodes on the head; using some method to recognize them easily by pairs (color coded or small sticker, etc). You then only unplug and plug the 2 active electrodes for each recording. Please look at this great picture (attached), courtesy of Hagedorn. It clearly shows the DIN connectors, the jumpers used to create a common ground and the linked-ear references, and 10 active electrodes waiting to be connected by pairs into the active (blue) sockets of the DIN connector. I thought this was worth sharing to give people another option. Francois http://www3.sympatico.ca/fdupont-phd De : braintrainer [mailto:braintrainer ] De la part de Mark Baddeley Envoyé : 18 décembre 2007 01:33 À : braintrainer Objet : Re: QDS Data Switch Thanks Francois. That helps which would make it useable for TLC Assessments with Infinity. It would be really cool if the TLC assessment could be incorporated into 's software. Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: Francois Dupont, Ph.D., C.Psych. To: braintrainer Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 5:22 PM Subject: RE: QDS Data Switch If the connectors that run from the back of the Data Switch into channels one and two are standard safety Din plugs, like seems to say, then it could be used with the TTL encoders (ProComp Infiniti, ProComp 2, ProComp 5, ProComp +, FlexComp Infiniti). See attached picture for one setup with commun ground and linked ears references. You can use only one ground (the second one not used) if you want. They go in the same place in the hardware. You can also use the not-linked references; like the setup shown in the original picture. Hoping this helps. Francois Dupont, Ph.D., C.Psych. http://www3.sympatico.ca/fdupont-phd Clinical, health, and rehabilitation psychology Therapy, assessment, and consultation Private practice Universite/y d’/of Ottawa; Service de sante / Health Services 100-100 Marie-Curie, Ottawa, Ontario, K1N 6N5 Canada Tel. : (613) 564-3950 poste/ext. 500; Fax : De : braintrainer [mailto:braintrainer ] De la part de Envoyé : 17 décembre 2007 20:08 À : braintrainer Objet : Re: QDS Data Switch the inputs for the 19 surface electrodes are standard safety Din plugs. The ground and reference electrodes plug directly into the amplifier, There are connectors that run from the back of the Data Switch into channels one and two of the amplifier (Din plugs) On Dec 17, 2007, at 5:17 PM, Mark Baddeley wrote: Hi If it is a switch box it has the potential to work with any encoder depending on how it connects to the encoder. What connectors or pin types are used at either end of the connections. Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: To: braintrainer Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 4:05 AM Subject: Re: QDS Data Switch Mark, THe Data Swtich box and software are used with BioExplorer and amplifiers that are BE compatible. On Dec 17, 2007, at 2:13 AM, Mark Baddeley wrote: Is it also compatible with Infinity Hardware? Mark Mark, The Data switch is stand alone and will work with any 2 channel eeg amplifier. The sQEEG software processes the data gathered using your amp and BE. It is possible, though more difficult and time consuming, to move the electrode pairs manually like you do with the TLC assessment. --- USFamily.Net - $8.25/mo! -- Highspeed - $19.99/mo! --- --- USFamily.Net - $8.25/mo! -- Highspeed - $19.99/mo! --- Attachment: vcard [not shown] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2007 Report Share Posted December 17, 2007 I forgot to mention that the ground can be placed wherever one wants; not necessarily at Cz. Francois http://www3.sympatico.ca/fdupont-phd De : braintrainer [mailto:braintrainer ] De la part de Francois Dupont, Ph.D., C.Psych. Envoyé : 18 décembre 2007 02:11 À : braintrainer Objet : RE: QDS Data Switch Mark, One easy way, but not as sophisticated, kind of “in between” moving 2 electrodes at each recording and using a switch box, comes from using many active electrodes. If we talk about the TLC assessment, you first install from 10 to 18 electrodes on the head; using some method to recognize them easily by pairs (color coded or small sticker, etc). You then only unplug and plug the 2 active electrodes for each recording. Please look at this great picture (attached), courtesy of Hagedorn. It clearly shows the DIN connectors, the jumpers used to create a common ground and the linked-ear references, and 10 active electrodes waiting to be connected by pairs into the active (blue) sockets of the DIN connector. I thought this was worth sharing to give people another option. Francois http://www3.sympatico.ca/fdupont-phd De : braintrainer [mailto:braintrainer ] De la part de Mark Baddeley Envoyé : 18 décembre 2007 01:33 À : braintrainer Objet : Re: QDS Data Switch Thanks Francois. That helps which would make it useable for TLC Assessments with Infinity. It would be really cool if the TLC assessment could be incorporated into 's software. Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: Francois Dupont, Ph.D., C.Psych. To: braintrainer Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 5:22 PM Subject: RE: QDS Data Switch If the connectors that run from the back of the Data Switch into channels one and two are standard safety Din plugs, like seems to say, then it could be used with the TTL encoders (ProComp Infiniti, ProComp 2, ProComp 5, ProComp +, FlexComp Infiniti). See attached picture for one setup with commun ground and linked ears references. You can use only one ground (the second one not used) if you want. They go in the same place in the hardware. You can also use the not-linked references; like the setup shown in the original picture. Hoping this helps. Francois Dupont, Ph.D., C.Psych. http://www3.sympatico.ca/fdupont-phd Clinical, health, and rehabilitation psychology Therapy, assessment, and consultation Private practice Universite/y d’/of Ottawa; Service de sante / Health Services 100-100 Marie-Curie, Ottawa, Ontario, K1N 6N5 Canada Tel. : (613) 564-3950 poste/ext. 500; Fax : De : braintrainer [mailto:braintrainer ] De la part de Envoyé : 17 décembre 2007 20:08 À : braintrainer Objet : Re: QDS Data Switch the inputs for the 19 surface electrodes are standard safety Din plugs. The ground and reference electrodes plug directly into the amplifier, There are connectors that run from the back of the Data Switch into channels one and two of the amplifier (Din plugs) On Dec 17, 2007, at 5:17 PM, Mark Baddeley wrote: Hi If it is a switch box it has the potential to work with any encoder depending on how it connects to the encoder. What connectors or pin types are used at either end of the connections. Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: To: braintrainer Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2007 4:05 AM Subject: Re: QDS Data Switch Mark, THe Data Swtich box and software are used with BioExplorer and amplifiers that are BE compatible. On Dec 17, 2007, at 2:13 AM, Mark Baddeley wrote: Is it also compatible with Infinity Hardware? Mark Mark, The Data switch is stand alone and will work with any 2 channel eeg amplifier. The sQEEG software processes the data gathered using your amp and BE. It is possible, though more difficult and time consuming, to move the electrode pairs manually like you do with the TLC assessment. --- USFamily.Net - $8.25/mo! -- Highspeed - $19.99/mo! --- --- USFamily.Net - $8.25/mo! -- Highspeed - $19.99/mo! --- Attachment: vcard [not shown] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2007 Report Share Posted December 18, 2007 Dear Francois You are correct. You can connect to any hardware that has 2 EEG Ch or more. The 2 Wires that goes from 2 EEG ch to the Back panel of QDS III Ch1 Ch2. Can be adapted to the needs of each amp. This is not a problem for us. what you will have to do is to set your protocol for the assessment and give each pair of Electrodes the order of the Assessment according to the sequence you use. TLC. Expanded TLC, sQEEG 1.4 or other. You can also use with out addressing homologue's INTER hemispheric pairs of electrodes but Intra hemispheric. For Coherence or other issue you want to assess. The options are endless. Just that the Buttons of the QDS III are already with the names of the 9 Pairs Homologue's Electrodes:Fp1 Fp2 F7 F8 F3 F4 T3 T4 C3 C4 T5 T6 P3 P4 O1 O2 Fz Cz Pz ( this one is alone. In CH1. CH2 is Closed and that line is not loaded by our software in the post Processing After Artifact Rejection process. If the connectors that run from the back of the Data Switch into channels one and two are standard safety Din plugs, like seems to say, then it could be used with the TTL encoders (ProComp Infiniti, ProComp 2, ProComp 5, ProComp +, FlexComp Infiniti). See attached picture for one setup with commun ground and linked ears references. You can use only one ground (the second one not used) if you want. They go in the same place in the hardware. You can also use the not-linked references; like the setup shown in the original picture. Hoping this helps. Francois Dupont, Ph.D., C.Psych. http://www3.sympatico.ca/fdupont-phd Clinical, health, and rehabilitation psychology Therapy, assessment, and consultation Private practice Universite/y d'/of Ottawa; Service de sante / Health Services 100-100 Marie-Curie, Ottawa, Ontario, K1N 6N5 Canada Tel. : poste/ext. 500; Fax : De : braintrainer [mailto: braintrainer ] De la part de Envoyé : 17 décembre 2007 20:08 À : braintrainer Objet : Re: QDS Data Switch the inputs for the 19 surface electrodes are standard safety Din plugs. The ground and reference electrodes plug directly into the amplifier, There are connectors that run from the back of the Data Switch into channels one and two of the amplifier (Din plugs) Hi If it is a switch box it has the potential to work with any encoder depending on how it connects to the encoder. What connectors or pin types are used at either end of the connections. Mark Re: QDS Data Switch Mark, THe Data Swtich box and software are used with BioExplorer and amplifiers that are BE compatible. Is it also compatible with Infinity Hardware? Mark Mark, The Data switch is stand alone and will work with any 2 channel eeg amplifier. The sQEEG software processes the data gathered using your amp and BE. It is possible, though more difficult and time consuming, to move the electrode pairs manually like you do with the TLC assessment. --- USFamily.Net - $8.25/mo! -- Highspeed - $19.99/mo! --- --- USFamily.Net - $8.25/mo! -- Highspeed - $19.99/mo! --- -- Dr. Rocatti, M.D.qdssystems@... http://www.qeeg.com.ar QDS SystemsBiosignal Research Tools Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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