Guest guest Posted January 20, 2003 Report Share Posted January 20, 2003 In a message dated 1/20/03 7:30:42 PM Central Standard Time, marib005@... writes: > The right sided weakness is a dead give away. Do you know if it's always on the right side or have you heard of cases of left-sided weakness? Our doc just mentioned problems on one side of the body. > I have been adding in a bunch of new supplements suggested by Andy > and today I had an episode of this sort, drunkeness followed by > weeping. Are you sure this is not a yeast die-off? I am happy to > hear this is viral die-off. The doc said it is one of the more common viral die-off signs he sees. I really don't think it is yeast since the only thing he's taking that could affect yeast is the Lauricidin and he's been on that for several months. Also, I don't think he has high yeast. We recently ran the full titer yeast test and it was negative, he very very rarely eats anything that would feed yeast and hasn't responded to any anti-yeast meds for a few years. >> regarding the die-off, increase anything. > No, just to remain on course and if the die-off lasted more than 21 days, he'd consider changing meds. Curt hasn't had any die-off stuff since last week (which would have been day 19 or 20) and seems to be doing well. So far no earth shattering progress but a small, but obvious, improvement in writing and fine motor, is calmer and we're getting through his workload much quicker so I guess he's more focused. All this is pretty subtle though, except the calmness. That's a real biggie for him since he's usually very hyper. Usually, when he doesn't take his calcium, he'd be very wiggly and hard to settle. We took the calcium out two weeks ago (doc thought the aspartate in it might have a negative effect on the antiviral treatment) and he appears to not need it to remain calm anymore. We'll be testing for calcium levels with the reg doc soon to ensure he's ok without it but it is amazing that he's not bouncing off the walls or having trouble getting to sleep without it like he did before. Sign of antiviral working, I hope. > Okay now I was just informed that he has a rash all over his body. > Should I do anything, > Sounds like maybe an allergy to the supplement? Gaylen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2003 Report Share Posted January 21, 2003 Gaylen, Regarding the weakness to one-side of the body. What I have read is that herpes viruses like the temporal lobes, which can lead to a weakness on one side of the body. With our kids I would imagine it would be the right side because the left temporal lobe is responsible for most of langauge. Which is also a good indication that if there is right-sided weakness and poor langauge that not only would the weakness improve from an antiviral but langauge should as well. Of course this is my theory but I have witness improved langauge processing with an improvement in Jack's gait. nne > In a message dated 1/20/03 7:30:42 PM Central Standard Time, > marib005@h... writes: > > > > The right sided weakness is a dead give away. > > Do you know if it's always on the right side or have you heard of cases of > left-sided weakness? Our doc just mentioned problems on one side of the body. > > > > I have been adding in a bunch of new supplements suggested by Andy > > and today I had an episode of this sort, drunkeness followed by > > weeping. Are you sure this is not a yeast die-off? I am happy to > > hear this is viral die-off. > > The doc said it is one of the more common viral die-off signs he sees. I > really don't think it is yeast since the only thing he's taking that could > affect yeast is the Lauricidin and he's been on that for several months. > Also, I don't think he has high yeast. We recently ran the full titer yeast > test and it was negative, he very very rarely eats anything that would feed > yeast and hasn't responded to any anti-yeast meds for a few years. > > >> regarding the die-off, increase anything. > > > No, just to remain on course and if the die-off lasted more than 21 days, > he'd consider changing meds. Curt hasn't had any die-off stuff since last > week (which would have been day 19 or 20) and seems to be doing well. So far > no earth shattering progress but a small, but obvious, improvement in writing > and fine motor, is calmer and we're getting through his workload much quicker > so I guess he's more focused. All this is pretty subtle though, except the > calmness. That's a real biggie for him since he's usually very hyper. > Usually, when he doesn't take his calcium, he'd be very wiggly and hard to > settle. We took the calcium out two weeks ago (doc thought the aspartate in > it might have a negative effect on the antiviral treatment) and he appears to > not need it to remain calm anymore. We'll be testing for calcium levels with > the reg doc soon to ensure he's ok without it but it is amazing that he's not > bouncing off the walls or having trouble getting to sleep without it like he > did before. Sign of antiviral working, I hope. > > > Okay now I was just informed that he has a rash all over his body. > > Should I do anything, > > > Sounds like maybe an allergy to the supplement? > Gaylen > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2003 Report Share Posted November 22, 2003 I am new to this board with a question: My 3-year old son has been on Acyclovir for the past 2 weeks.(had positive antibodies to herpes virus I). We are not pts of Dr G's but I decided to try antivirals anyway because had a very sudden and fast regression (though he was never 100% normal " ).Since we increased the Acyclovir dose he is incredibly spaced out, disconnected, moody, stimmy, perseverative, echolalic etc- you get the picture. Ironically his language skills seem a little better but overall a lot more autistic- like behaviors. I would be thankful for anybody sharing their experiences with antiviral die-off- is it common, is it a good prognostic factor and how long does it last? Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2003 Report Share Posted November 22, 2003 Even though my son has never taken Acyclovir, he did experience die off with Valtex and Famvir. In both of these cases, his " symptoms " included spaciness, irritability, spinning, shaking his head, trouble coming up with words. At his worst, it lasted only 3-5 days, but these symptoms came and went for 3 weeks. HTH --- In , " mariaprelipcean " <mariaprelipcean@y...> wrote: > I am new to this board with a question: > My 3-year old son has been on Acyclovir for the past 2 weeks.(had > positive antibodies to herpes virus I). We are not pts of Dr G's but > I decided to try antivirals anyway because had a very sudden > and fast regression (though he was never 100% normal " ).Since we > increased the Acyclovir dose he is incredibly spaced out, > disconnected, moody, stimmy, perseverative, echolalic etc- you get > the picture. Ironically his language skills seem a little better but > overall a lot more autistic- like behaviors. > I would be thankful for anybody sharing their experiences with > antiviral die-off- is it common, is it a good prognostic factor and > how long does it last? > Thank you > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2005 Report Share Posted December 5, 2005 Dana and others, I have been giving Virastop beginning in early fall. As soon as I increased the dose to 2/day, a rash appeared on trunk which is a combination of small pimples and red unraised rash. This has only settled down to a few spots recently so I am planning to increase dosage again. Any thoughts on how long this excretion lasts and how high the dose should be for optimum benefit(120#)? Any experience using this with low dose naltrexone-would that facilitate excretion? - theoretically I would think so....thanks, B. > > I did the vitamin A protocol not too long ago, I thought that might > > reduce his viral load? I am adding small amounts of Olive leaf > > extract. He didn't respond to the supplement in the past so > > hopefully he will now. Do you think that Olive leaf extract is > > similar to oil of oregano? > > > I don't really know. My son did not tolerate oil of oregano. > > > > Would taking these things cause a viral die off which would seem like > > his virus issues are increasing? > > > Viral die off tends to increase yeast. It also causes a full body > rash for my son, which *does* look a little bit like viruses are > increasing when they are actually coming out of his body. > > Dana > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2005 Report Share Posted December 6, 2005 > > Dana and others, > I have been giving Virastop beginning in early fall. As soon as I > increased the dose to 2/day, a rash appeared on trunk which is a > combination of small pimples and red unraised rash. This has only > settled down to a few spots recently so I am planning to increase > dosage again. Any thoughts on how long this excretion lasts and how > high the dose should be for optimum benefit(120#)? Well, I used OLE the first time I did anti-virals. After 10 months of OLE, my son developed a rash which took about a month to go away. This time, I am using OLE and ViraStop, plus vitamin C, colostrum, and occasionally astralagus root. I give 3-6 ViraStop capsules, plus 3000mg OLE, per day, plus maybe 10 grams of vitamin C. My son has had the rash for about 2 months now, and it is not showing signs of reducing any time soon. His language and social interest are really going thru the roof tho! Some people I know are using just ViraStop, as much as 15-20 capsules per day. >>Any experience > using this with low dose naltrexone-would that facilitate > excretion? - theoretically I would think so.... I have read that LDN helps the immune system, so I would guess that it would probably help. 1-2 capsules of ViraStop does not seem like much, so if you are seeing benefits, it might be from the combination. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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