Guest guest Posted December 1, 2003 Report Share Posted December 1, 2003 Dr Layton? Dr Layton is an allergist, not a pediatrician. He has a very narrow viewpoint on and believes the world rises and sets on Bernard Shaw. We saw him for 2 yrs for 'allergy related issues' He refuses to do blood tests on for environmental triggers stating " well, if he's reacting to it we have to assume he's allergic to it " . He also charges $250/hr - you have to file with insurance and it may/may not be covered. Perhaps Dr Layton is helpful for someone starting out. But for us, where we have 5 yrs of documented trials/errors - what has worked/hasn't worked, we were looking for someone to support us on the immune/allergy aspect of the syndrome. Dr Layton failed to provide the support we needed. As the blood work has improved, so has . The only issue we appear to be facing now is the attention issue. doris sville Message: 1 Date: Sat, 22 Nov 2003 09:22:57 -0500 From: " Tracey " <tparker82@...> Subject: Re: re: lovaas gutstein et al Thanks. I see a different Dan doctor in Towson who I like very much. He is open minded and respectful and has a team approach with parents. He also stays on top of things without jumping on every new bandwagon. Has your child improved behaviorally as the blood work has improved? Re: re: re: lovaas gutstein et al I would be interestes to know which Dan doctor you saw? I don't mean to put you on the spot but I see one in your area and am curious if it is the same doctor. What behavioral changes have you noted as your childs bllodwork has improved? _____________________________________________ Responsibility for the content of this message lies strictly with the original author, and is not necessarily endorsed by or the opinion of the Research Institute. ``````````````````````````````````````` Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 2, 2003 Report Share Posted December 2, 2003 Which test did he refuse to do? He has been very open to all of our requests. We have seen him for 1.5 years and he hasn't once pushed allergy treatments. He doesn't seem to buy into any one way of thinking in our experience. He blends ideas from Dan doctors and has openly discussed without any negativity with us. His main objection to was taking the bloodwork so often. I have appreciated his opinion and ability to listen to our ideas respectfully. Our son has made remarkable strides in the last 1.5 years. We are not beginning either. We have also seen Dr. Cave and Dr. Megson. Re: re: re: lovaas gutstein et al I would be interestes to know which Dan doctor you saw? I don't mean to put you on the spot but I see one in your area and am curious if it is the same doctor. What behavioral changes have you noted as your childs bllodwork has improved? _____________________________________________ Responsibility for the content of this message lies strictly with the original author, and is not necessarily endorsed by or the opinion of the Research Institute. ``````````````````````````````````````` Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2003 Report Share Posted December 31, 2003 Interesting to hear different views on Layton. We have been seeing him since April. My 5 yr old son has bad allergies, tics, adhd, and sensory issues. When we first saw Layton we didn't know about . We raised it with him in our last visit. He didn't close the door on it and said that Dr. G has a lot of good ideas, but he didn't suggest we pursue the protocol either. I think this may be because because he believes that allergies are at the core of my son's problems. Yet, I fear something else may be going on. Everytime gets sick, he has to take antibiotics or he doesn't get better. They also stop his tics. We explored PANDAS but his titers were always negative. Anyway, I didn't realize that Layton might be willing to run tests along the Goldberg protocol. Did he do them for you? What did you think of Cave? My son has high metal levels. Layton wanted to chelate with Metal Free but another expert told me DMSA is the only way to go. Layton feels my son's history is " very complex even for someone like himself, " but since my son's problems are not PDD or full blown autism related, I think he wants to be conservative. Kim in Kensington, MD > Which test did he refuse to do? He has been very open to all of our requests. We have seen him for 1.5 years and he hasn't once pushed allergy treatments. He doesn't seem to buy into any one way of thinking in our experience. He blends ideas from Dan doctors and has openly discussed without any negativity with us. His main objection to was taking the bloodwork so often. I have appreciated his opinion and ability to listen to our ideas respectfully. Our son has made remarkable strides in the last 1.5 years. We are not beginning either. We have also seen Dr. Cave and Dr. Megson. > > Responsibility for the content of this message lies strictly with > the original author, and is not necessarily endorsed by or the > opinion of the Research Institute. > ``````````````````````````````````````` Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2004 Report Share Posted January 7, 2004 Sorry it has taken me so long to reply. I have not specifically requested a protocol. We really use a blended approach from DAN, and Andy Cutler chelation protocol. I think Dr. Layton respects but doesn't think all the bloodwork and test are necessary as often as requires. He agrees antifungals, ssris, and antivirals help. He also has seen dramatic help for some with secretin, and for some it has been no help. For some supplements are the answer for some not. For some chelation has been key for some not. I like him because he listens to us and is open minded. He also pays attention to my son. I am always most wary of parents and doctors who believe their protocol is the end all. All of the children are helped by different things and just because one thing helped or didn't help one child doesn't mean it wouldn't help another. I think it is well meaning and easy to get passionate about a med and doctor that has helped your child. When we saw Dr. Cave August of 2002 our son was 4 and we were interested in chelation. We were also seeing a NAET specialist at the time who was against our using DMSA and thought Metal Free would be the better choice. I had another parent see Dr. Holmes and she told her Metal Free didn't pull metal out. One month later when I saw Dr. Cave she said she liked Metal Free and had chelated herself with it. She only objected to how expensive it was. She felt it was much easier on the gut. That day we also had our 1st secretin. We went to dinner and for the first time our son said " yummy " . We have continued secretin every 3-4 months with Dr. Layton and are now backing off without regression. We also did AIT at 3 and 4 which was dramatic for his processing. I really think highly of Dr. Cave and stay in touch with office. She also tweaked his supplement routine for the better. We really started with Layton because we could drive 8hrs versus a plane to Dr. Cave. He said he would be a team player and just do secretin as we requested or he could offer his input. I took his input and the improvement has been wonderful. I hope this helps and I wish you and your son the best! Re: towson DAN Dr Interesting to hear different views on Layton. We have been seeing him since April. My 5 yr old son has bad allergies, tics, adhd, and sensory issues. When we first saw Layton we didn't know about . We raised it with him in our last visit. He didn't close the door on it and said that Dr. G has a lot of good ideas, but he didn't suggest we pursue the protocol either. I think this may be because because he believes that allergies are at the core of my son's problems. Yet, I fear something else may be going on. Everytime gets sick, he has to take antibiotics or he doesn't get better. They also stop his tics. We explored PANDAS but his titers were always negative. Anyway, I didn't realize that Layton might be willing to run tests along the Goldberg protocol. Did he do them for you? What did you think of Cave? My son has high metal levels. Layton wanted to chelate with Metal Free but another expert told me DMSA is the only way to go. Layton feels my son's history is " very complex even for someone like himself, " but since my son's problems are not PDD or full blown autism related, I think he wants to be conservative. Kim in Kensington, MD Responsibility for the content of this message lies strictly with the original author, and is not necessarily endorsed by or the opinion of the Research Institute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2004 Report Share Posted January 7, 2004 I am so glad to hear that your efforts are paying off and that Dr. Layton is able to provide what you need. We are hoping that the same will eventually happen for us. I was interested to hear what Dr. Cave had to say about Metal Free. I spoke to Andy Cutler over the phone and he felt that it was a big waste of time. I hated hearing that. At the same time, I am a little afraid of DMSA. If the metals damaged my kid going in, can't they damage him going out? Did you go on to use Metal Free? Do you know of anyone else who has used it? (anyone else--feel free to respond) Kim in MD > Sorry it has taken me so long to reply. I have not specifically requested a protocol. We really use a blended approach from DAN, and Andy Cutler chelation protocol. I think Dr. Layton respects but doesn't think all the bloodwork and test are necessary as often as requires. He agrees antifungals, ssris, and antivirals help. He also has seen dramatic help for some with secretin, and for some it has been no help. For some supplements are the answer for some not. For some chelation has been key for some not. I like him because he listens to us and is open minded. He also pays attention to my son. I am always most wary of parents and doctors who believe their protocol is the end all. All of the children are helped by different things and just because one thing helped or didn't help one child doesn't mean it wouldn't help another. I think it is well meaning and easy to get passionate about a med and doctor that has helped your child. When we saw Dr. Cave August of 2002 our son was 4 and we were interested in chelation. We were also seeing a NAET specialist at the time who was against our using DMSA and thought Metal Free would be the better choice. I had another parent see Dr. Holmes and she told her Metal Free didn't pull metal out. One month later when I saw Dr. Cave she said she liked Metal Free and had chelated herself with it. She only objected to how expensive it was. She felt it was much easier on the gut. That day we also had our 1st secretin. We went to dinner and for the first time our son said " yummy " . We have continued secretin every 3-4 months with Dr. Layton and are now backing off without regression. We also did AIT at 3 and 4 which was dramatic for his processing. I really think highly of Dr. Cave and stay in touch with office. She also tweaked his supplement routine for the better. We really started with Layton because we could drive 8hrs versus a plane to Dr. Cave. He said he would be a team player and just do secretin as we requested or he could offer his input. I took his input and the improvement has been wonderful. I hope this helps and I wish you and your son the best! > > Re: towson DAN Dr > > > Interesting to hear different views on Layton. We have been seeing > him since April. My 5 yr old son has bad allergies, tics, adhd, and > sensory issues. When we first saw Layton we didn't know about . > We raised it with him in our last visit. He didn't close the door on > it and said that Dr. G has a lot of good ideas, but he didn't suggest > we pursue the protocol either. I think this may be because because he > believes that allergies are at the core of my son's problems. Yet, I > fear something else may be going on. Everytime gets sick, he has > to take antibiotics or he doesn't get better. They also stop his > tics. We explored PANDAS but his titers were always negative. > > Anyway, I didn't realize that Layton might be willing to run tests > along the Goldberg protocol. Did he do them for you? What did you > think of Cave? My son has high metal levels. Layton wanted to > chelate with Metal Free but another expert told me DMSA is the only > way to go. Layton feels my son's history is " very complex even for > someone like himself, " but since my son's problems are not PDD or > full blown autism related, I think he wants to be conservative. > > Kim in Kensington, MD > > > > Responsibility for the content of this message lies strictly with > the original author, and is not necessarily endorsed by or the > opinion of the Research Institute. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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