transfer factors

[Guest guest]

> Also, the people who make Formula 560 was supposed to come out with

a EBV

> transfer factor. Does anyone know if this was done yet? I heard

about this

> one about 3-4 months ago.

Probably won't be out till next year

[Guest guest]

I use this from Chisolm - I think it is option 2.

It's great for these viruses. Got mine from

Dynamune.com.

Jennie

--- lbinujrsy@... wrote:

> About a month ago I got word that the company

> Chisolm is coming out with a

> new improved transfer factor for Lyme, HHV-6,

> sackie, and EBV.

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[Guest guest]

, I'm taking ImmunFactor-1 from Chisolm:

http://www.chisolmbio.com/index.htm

Haven't been taking long enough to comment on how

it's effecting me.

(WA)

-- In @y..., lbinujrsy@a... wrote:

> I have been on Lovenox for a while and I am not considering getting

back on

> transfer factors and antibiotics. Can the people who are on

transfer factors

> please let me know if they are helping in any way? Which Transfer

Factors is

> everyone taking? The TF 560, 540(new epstien barr one), or regular

ones?

>

[Guest guest]

I do have someone in my support group with long standing Lyme who feels that

he is cured from taking Transfer Factor. I also know of people with

" moderate " Lyme who have been able to stop antibiotics while taking AGImmune

(another brand of TF). People can visit Bodywise's site for a paper on their

first double blind study of the effect of TF on increasing killer T cells. I

am personally taking AGImmune, and hoping it helps in long run.

I would be very interested in any Lyme specific TF's if anyone has any info

on them.

Thanks!

tansy

>

> >the following was sent to me privately.

> Anyone care to comment?

> sue in nj

>

> <A

> HREF= " http://www.positivehealth.com/permit/Articles/Miscellaneous/

> newyork.htm "

> >

>

> This article is about a cure with a " transfer factor " .

> >From what I've heard people say on other lists,

> especially , also a groups ng

> where people are trying several different brands of

> transfer factors, the verdict is still out on their

> effectiveness. I doubt it would be a " cure " for Lyme

> but might be helpful as an adjunctive therapy. I have

> a friend who spent a year on a tf product that

> contained specific antibodies for Lyme and other

> things like viruses who is now on abx. Her level of

> functioning went up while on the tf, but it didn't do

> enough. It might be sufficient for someone who was

> recently bitten. If you do a web search on transfer

> factor you will find lots of info including general

> non-specific tf's and specific tr's, some of which

> include Lyme. By the way,Joanne Whittaker, MD of the

> Bowen Institute was taking a TF from Chisholm Lab in

> NC in addition to her abx.

>

[Guest guest]

tansy wrote:

> her brand of TF). People can visit Bodywise's site for a paper on their

> first double blind study of the effect of TF on increasing killer T cells. I

> am personally taking AGImmune, and hoping it helps in long run.

How long have you been on it? How much do you take per day (grams?)

How much does it cost? How many grams in a box? thanks!

[Guest guest]

I would like to know more about AGlmmune, and Transfer Factors. Could you

tell me more about it or give me a web site. Meg

[Guest guest]

Tansy-

I am taking the Transfer Factor Plus and will post later as to what is going

on.....

I DO have access to buying it and all the info if anyone would like to e-mail

me privately.

sue in nj

My dr. swears by it.

[Guest guest]

Fred:

I had been on Transfer Factor for a while and found that

I am doing better on a product from Carrington Labs. It

is called Manapol and is from the Aloe Vera plant. It

is also an immune stimulant, but it also help keeps skin

soft. It is $19.95 a bottle and much cheaper than the

transfer factor.

Roni

> Hi ,

> What about " Transfer Factors " ? They are a natural product of our own

> immune systems which enhance the bodys immune response. They

> stimulate an underactive immune system, regulate an overactive immune

> system and teach the immune system how to respond to future threats.

>

> It is only fairly recently that a process has been refined to extract

> the Transfer Factors from colostrum. They are actually taken from

> bovine colostrum. Apparently it is the same in all mammals.

>

> They have had tremendous success with fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue

> and many other autoimmune conditions. They may not work for everyone

> but I am impressed with the concept.

>

> ....Fred....

>

>

>

>

>

> To unsubscribe, email: rheumatic-unsubscribeegroups

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi a,

I'm taking Transfer Factor for EBV. I tested positive for this

virus, so I know I have it. My herxing has not been as hard or as

consistant as I had expected, but I usually notice some herxing

between 30 and 60 minutes after I take the capsules. At this point,

I'm taking 2 capsules three times a day, per MD instructions and

herxing lightly from it.

Laurie

[Guest guest]

I am not sure what the herxing is about. I have been on the Transfer Factor

560 for 14 mo. taking 2 a day; and no problems.

Carole

[Guest guest]

I also took Transfer Factor when I first tested positive for mycoplasma.

I did herx from it and had to cut back.

I can now take 12 Transfer Factor caps in one day and I get no symptoms.

This how I know the myoplasma and any other bacteria I have is under control

now.

I take 12 Transfer factors in one day when I get the flu and it is gone in a

couple of days and there are no symptoms at all from this.

Re: Transfer Factors

> Hi a,

> I'm taking Transfer Factor for EBV. I tested positive for this

> virus, so I know I have it. My herxing has not been as hard or as

> consistant as I had expected, but I usually notice some herxing

> between 30 and 60 minutes after I take the capsules. At this point,

> I'm taking 2 capsules three times a day, per MD instructions and

> herxing lightly from it.

>

> Laurie

>

>

>

> This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each

other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment

discussed here, please consult your doctor.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Is it helping any of your symptoms?how long have you been on it?thank

you

> Hi a,

> I'm taking Transfer Factor for EBV. I tested positive for this

> virus, so I know I have it. My herxing has not been as hard or as

> consistant as I had expected, but I usually notice some herxing

> between 30 and 60 minutes after I take the capsules. At this

point,

> I'm taking 2 capsules three times a day, per MD instructions and

> herxing lightly from it.

>

> Laurie

[Guest guest]

Unfortunately, I don't know if it's helping with EBV symptoms

because I've been having a rough time since a bad and prolonged

perfume exposure, which has exacebated my MCS symptoms. I will be

retested for EBV at some point though.

Laurie

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 7/3/2003 12:18:06 PM Central Daylight Time,

Angelgirl1016@... writes:

> Hi Janis and group,

> What are transfer factors?

> Thanks inadvance for any imput.

>

Hello,

I will try to explain it the way my doctor explained it to me. They take

the Lyme disease bacteria and inject it into a cow. The cow has the ability

to produce antibodies to it. They impregnate the cow and when it has a calf

the colostrum in the milk she produces gives the calf a natural immunity. They

take the colostrum and put it into pill form and so far in other disease like

Fibromyalgia and Chronic Fatigue they have used it has gotten positive

results. The problem here if it didn't work could be a co infection or that

Lyme

possibly triggers another disorder from what he said. I have friends that have

done this study for instance for the HHV-6 virus and they say it did help them

some but in one in particular he said she may have some other things going on

because she was misdiagnosed for 15 years. If you happen to have several

other virus's then the Lyme Transfer Factor wouldn't be as successful. This is

the first time they have done Lyme Transfer Factor studies. Since I got in

remission once for almost 4 years he feels with me we are only dealing with Lyme

but others would have to be tested to know for sure if other things are also

responsible.. He did run several tests on me Monday and said it will be

interesting to see what they show. I don't have the results yet and it maybe

some

time before I hear anything. Possibly a week or so. The way he explained the

triggering idea is he used the chicken pox virus for example that people have

left in their systems after having the disease maybe as a kid and something

triggers it and comes back as shingles.

I certainly don't have the answers but this all makes some sense. He feels

Lyme can trigger many other things if someone has it long enough. Some people

have a natural immunity to Lyme he said and some don't. We are the unlucky

ones with out the immunity to it according to what he said.

I hope I have explained this so it can be understood.

Janis

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 7/3/2003 1:32:33 PM Central Daylight Time,

Angelgirl1016@... writes:

> Thanks Janis,

> Can I buy this transfer factor over the counter?

>

Well that one web site looked like you could on the things they have had a

study on but for the Lyme one they haven't gotten it developed yet. From what

he said the cows are pregnant now and it will be several months before they

give birth. They will do studies on it before it is released to make sure it

works. He said it was certainly safer than the silver I had already exposed

myself to. LOL

I do think you will be able to buy them over the counter it looks like from

what I have seen so far on the web. Just remember though that there is a

possibility you might be dealing with something more than just Lyme which many

of

us have been. It would be to your advantage if your doctor could tell you if

you might have some of the other things that comes with Lyme.

I will keep you updated on this. When he does start doing the transfer factor

study on Lyme from what I understand there will be two groups. One getting

placebo and the other getting the real stuff and we wont know until its over

who got what so they can do an accurate testing on it and know for sure if it

works or not.

Hugs to all,

Janis

Here is what they have available at this point and this is the company he

works with that is getting ready to do the lyme one.

<A HREF= " http://immunitytoday.com/ " >Immunity Today, LLC</A>

[Guest guest]

Thanks Janis,

Can I buy this transfer factor over the counter?

[Guest guest]

Chisolm already sells a transfer factor that is for Lyme, among other

things. (ImmuneFactor 2) The positive thing about Chisolm's transfer factor

is that you don't have to take it continuously to maintain immune function,

unlike Immunity Today's transfer factor, which makes Chisolm's more cost

effective in the long run. They extract their transfer factor from the white

blood cells of chickens, rather than colostrum. Transfer factor can be

obtained from a variety of different animals, besides just from bovine

colostrum. (I wonder if it would be possible to get transfer factor from the

Western Fence Lizard ;^0) Chisolm's web address:

http://www.chisolmbio.com/

lindaj@...

Re: [ ] Transfer factors

> In a message dated 7/3/2003 1:32:33 PM Central Daylight Time,

> Angelgirl1016@... writes:

>

> > Thanks Janis,

> > Can I buy this transfer factor over the counter?

[Guest guest]

<<<<< They take the Lyme disease bacteria and inject it into a cow. The cow

has the ability to produce antibodies to it. They impregnate the cow and

when it has a calf ........They impregnate the cow and when it has a calf

the colostrum in the milk she produces gives the calf a natural

immunity.>>>>>

I've never heard of this natural immunity being specific to lyme?

My understanding is that " Transfer Factor " is what is found as the top

immune fighting qualities in Colostrum.

Colostrum is the first breast milk that is fed a baby.

That is true in Humans as well as wildlife. It's to build the baby's immune

system.

As far as I know, they haven't developed a transfer factor specifically with

" Anti Lyme qualities " to build up our immune systems to specifically prevent

getting lyme. If so, please let me know, we should all be taking it.

I think the Transfer Factor much like Colostrum which I take daily is to

build your weakened immune system, much like a baby's immune system is

strengthened in a Mother's first milk.

Connie nwnj

[Guest guest]

Jeepers, I'm wrong to some extent they do have immune supporting supplements

for specific bacteria.

I don't know, I would be afraid to introduce this into my body. I know they

are antibodies, but isn't that how vaccines work? Didn't many people get

ill from the lyme vaccine? I think I would rather build my immune system

with just the colostrum and not introduce the following.

ImmunFactor( 2 (Keep refrigerated):

Epstein-Barr Virus (EBV), Cytomegalovirus (CMV), Chlamydia pneumoniae,

Borrelia burgdorferi (cell-wall deficient Lyme), Human herpes virus 6

(HHV6), Babesia, and Ehrlichia.

[Guest guest]

does anybody know if transfer factors are part of the protocol ?

they are immune system modulators. i wonder if Dr. G. uses them on some

patients.

[Guest guest]

> does anybody know if transfer factors are part of the

protocol ?

> they are immune system modulators. i wonder if Dr. G. uses them on

some

> patients.

Hi,

It's not part of the protocol. Below is some background info that

was posted to the list.

Cheryl

In a landmark study, Dr. H. Hugh Fudenberg, M.D. found that of 22

Autistic children, 21 improved significantly and 10 were considered

to be recovered and mainstreamed in their schools following Transfer

Factor treatment. After the treatment was discontinued, some showed

regression, but none returned to their prior baseline levels. Dr.

Fudenberg used the lymphocyte based Transfer Factor in his

treatment, and while these results have been replicated using that

treatment protocol, they have not been replicated using the

colostrum based treatment.

While much promise is offered by these treatments, there are sites

on the internet which offer " Transfer Factor " treatments that

actually are nothing but scams, in Dr. Fudenberg's expert opinion. --

-------------------------------------------------

A warning about Fraudulent Transfer Factor Preparations

Be wary of anyone selling " Transfer Factor " over the internet,

especially if they claim to have " pure TF. " No one has yet purified

TF. The closest anyone has come are those few scientists deriving TF

in tissue culture, from clonally-expanded lymphoblastoid cell lines

(of mammalian origin), in presence of specific antigen. Furthermore,

depending on what molecular-weight cut-off (i.e., microfiltration

pore size) is used, preparations purported to contain TF may also

contain other cytokines, especially Interleukins, Interferon-alpha, -

beta, and -gamma, and Tumor Necrosis Factor. At the very least, ask

what cut-off is used, whether the preparation has been tested for

other cytokines, whether the potency of the " TF " has been measured

and if so for which specific antigen. (If more than one, ask

relative potency to each.)

Do not take TF for CFIDS unless immunologic tests have been

performed to exclude other diseases with identical symptoms, e.g.

Lyme disease. Optimal therapy for these differs from that of CFIDS;

there is a different one for each cause. Beware of physicians

stating Lyme disease to be the cause of CFIDS; it is a separate

disease with specific diagnostic tests and a different therapy.

If you have adverse reactions to milk, do not take TF derived from

bovine colostrum unless lactose, casein, and cytokines have been

proven to be absent; ask for proof! Furthermore, presence of

concentrated cytokines in product sold as a nutritional is probably

a violation U.S. Dietary Supplement Health Education Act (DSHEA) of

1994, since the Act only permitted continued sale of product as

nutritional if it had been considered one prior to that time. Also

ask if person suggesting use is an M.D., and whether licensed in

that state or country.

If anyone claims to be expert on TF, contact ITFS to see if claimant

is member thereof; and if claims to be INTERNATIONAL EXPERT, look in

WHO's WHO IN MEDICINE & HEALTHCARE, & WHO'S WHO IN THE WORLD, to

verify.

Claims by various companies that their concentrated bovine colostrum

constitutes antigen-specific TF, without proof by potency assay --

or purporting to have TF for streptococci, staphylococci, salmonella

etc. -- are bogus. Furthermore, any product claimed to treat /

cure / prevent a specific disease / virus / antigen, cannot be sold

as a " nutritional " under DSHEA.

Beware any company advertising on Internet or via Emails addressed

to " All health care providers " (or using similar language) that asks

reader to call a toll-free 800 number, which responds with a lengthy

recorded message. Any company that lists an 800 number on the Web,

does not answer when you call, but asks you to leave your phone

number for them to call you back, is probably fraudulent. Suggest

you call 3 times at different times of day; if you never reach a

live person, only call-back number, it is probably fraudulent.

Any company selling both " TF " and 1,3 D beta glucan is probably

fraudulent. Exorbitant claims have been made for latter; it is a

yeast, very easy to buy and encapsulate. There have been no

published papers showing its efficacy in any human disease, only in

vitro studies that it boosts macrophagocytic capacity. This will

EXACERBATE autoimmune hemolytic anemia and autoimmune

thrombocytopenia! These diseases are often silent because bone

marrow can compensate for the increased destruction rate by

producing these at 6-8 fold normal; if compensation occurs, person

will develop the disease; if person already symptomatic, it will

cause exacerbation.

[Guest guest]

Hi Peggy,

I took 4-Life Transfer Factors, recommended by my doctor. I got very

ill and had a complete relapse. I went from being functional (still

not able to work, but functional) back down to 30%. It took me

almost 3 years to recover but, I still have not gone back to base to

when I felt *better*.

Nat

[Guest guest]

did you use the + or the regular?

my dr.said not to use the + when you have candida!

roger

natellite wrote:

>

> Hi Peggy,

>

> I took 4-Life Transfer Factors, recommended by my doctor. I got very

> ill and had a complete relapse. I went from being functional (still

> not able to work, but functional) back down to 30%. It took me

> almost 3 years to recover but, I still have not gone back to base to

> when I felt *better*.

>

> Nat

[Guest guest]

I am sorry to hear that Nat. Thanks for telling me experience.

Peggy

Hi Peggy,

I took 4-Life Transfer Factors, recommended by my doctor. I got very

ill and had a complete relapse. I went from being functional (still

not able to work, but functional) back down to 30%. It took me

almost 3 years to recover but, I still have not gone back to base to

when I felt *better*.

Nat

[Guest guest]

, I took the regular 4-Life. I didn't have candida, I had

h.pylori, but didn't know at the time. This may have been a factor,

but we're not sure.

Nat