Tenex?

[Guest guest]

I think the dosage is in direct relation to what he finds in the

NeuroSpect scan. My son weighs about 82lbs. and he started him on 1/8

twice a day, but just DEcreased it to 1/8 once a day. Since you

haven't had the scan yet, that's probably why he started him on that

minimal dose and then will adjust after he sees the scan. But, believe

it or not, we saw good results with that dosage. He later introduced

Strattera, and that's why the decrease in the Tenex to only once a day.

We saw results pretty quickly - more focused and saying more words

(he's basically non-verbal). Probably took only a couple of weeks

before seeing the change.

Since he still didn't look " right " and leaned more toward zoney as

opposed to hyper, that's why he decreased and thinks we may see better

results from the Strattera - maybe without the Tenex at all.

Hope that helps!

> Hi all

>

> Dr. G. started my 5 year old 32 pound son on Tenex 1/8 twice a day.

I am

> not sure how this little amount can do anything but we will see. It

is almost

> impossible to cut. We are having a Neurospec on 9/14. I was

surprised he

> started it so close to that. I was wondering how long before

anyone saw

> results good or bad? It has only been one day. Maybe he is a

little more tired

> (Maybe) however that's it.

>

> Any information would be great.

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

My son seems very tired on the Tenex (1/8 he is 30 pounds). Does this

effect go away? I was also wondering if anyone started at age 4 and how

long before they saw real results. We have been on it since November. My son

just turned 5 and we are about to start more in-home, social and ABA programs.

Although he has come very far I just am not sure that these med's for life

are a good thing. I have asked this question before I was wondering if

anyone had a new take on it.

Thanks as always

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 8/22/2005 2:49:36 PM Central Standard Time,

dazseaton@... writes:

<<My son seems very tired on the Tenex (1/8 he is 30 pounds). Does this

effect go away?>>

That could be a sign of low blood pressure. I'd red flag that symptom to Dr.

G. That was the only negative symptom my son had with the increased dosage

and his blood pressure was low during that time. Spreading out the dosage into

three times a day removed the tiredness. I imagine it would be very hard to

spread out such a low dose but you might ask Dr. G about cutting 1/4 a tablet

into three doses to spread it out more (assuming he's now taking 1/8tab

2x/day).

Gaylen

[Guest guest]

Dear ,

Thanks for asking this question! I was going to post a similar email. My son

is 3 years and 2 months old. We're going to the NNY clinic for the first

time in October... I am really interested in hearing about the results that

people have seen. I'm also worried about the meds. But, at least they check

liver function once a month.

Thanks in advance for any responses.

:-)

dazseaton@... wrote:

My son seems very tired on the Tenex (1/8 he is 30 pounds). Does this

effect go away? I was also wondering if anyone started at age 4 and how

long before they saw real results. We have been on it since November. My son

just turned 5 and we are about to start more in-home, social and ABA programs.

Although he has come very far I just am not sure that these med's for life

are a good thing. I have asked this question before I was wondering if

anyone had a new take on it.

Thanks as always

[Guest guest]

Hello all,

My 4y/o ASD son is currently on Famvir, Celexa, Tenex,Diflucan, EFA's and Super

Nu Thera,

I have not changed anything in weeks, since upping his Celexa all he wants to do

is sleep or watch videos. Today he took a 3 hr nap (extremely unsual , he only

sleeps 7-9 hrs a night no naps for years) and now he has very dark circles under

his eyes. Has anyone ever experience this, I'm really worried, of coarse he's

been asking to go to sleep since waking up. (Very limited verbal skills)

Thanks everyone,

Joie

Meade <jenniferdmeade@...> wrote:

Dear ,

Thanks for asking this question! I was going to post a similar email. My son

is 3 years and 2 months old. We're going to the NNY clinic for the first

time in October... I am really interested in hearing about the results that

people have seen. I'm also worried about the meds. But, at least they check

liver function once a month.

Thanks in advance for any responses.

:-)

dazseaton@... wrote:

My son seems very tired on the Tenex (1/8 he is 30 pounds). Does this

effect go away? I was also wondering if anyone started at age 4 and how

long before they saw real results. We have been on it since November. My son

just turned 5 and we are about to start more in-home, social and ABA programs.

Although he has come very far I just am not sure that these med's for life

are a good thing. I have asked this question before I was wondering if

anyone had a new take on it.

Thanks as always

[Guest guest]

It could be a sign that he is not tolerating it--not

going thru proper sleep cycles so that he is always

sleepy. But then he might need more time to adjust.

I would relay this to Dr. Goldberg.

--- Joie Rightmier <joiesports@...> wrote:

> Hello all,

>

> My 4y/o ASD son is currently on Famvir, Celexa,

> Tenex,Diflucan, EFA's and Super Nu Thera,

> I have not changed anything in weeks, since upping

> his Celexa all he wants to do is sleep or watch

> videos. Today he took a 3 hr nap (extremely unsual ,

> he only sleeps 7-9 hrs a night no naps for years)

> and now he has very dark circles under his eyes. Has

> anyone ever experience this, I'm really worried, of

> coarse he's been asking to go to sleep since waking

> up. (Very limited verbal skills)

>

> Thanks everyone,

> Joie

>

> Meade <jenniferdmeade@...> wrote:

> Dear ,

>

> Thanks for asking this question! I was going to

> post a similar email. My son is 3 years and 2

> months old. We're going to the NNY clinic for

> the first time in October... I am really interested

> in hearing about the results that people have seen.

> I'm also worried about the meds. But, at least they

> check liver function once a month.

>

> Thanks in advance for any responses.

>

> :-)

>

> dazseaton@... wrote:

> My son seems very tired on the Tenex (1/8 he is 30

> pounds). Does this

> effect go away? I was also wondering if anyone

> started at age 4 and how

> long before they saw real results. We have been on

> it since November. My son

> just turned 5 and we are about to start more

> in-home, social and ABA programs.

> Although he has come very far I just am not sure

> that these med's for life

> are a good thing. I have asked this question

> before I was wondering if

> anyone had a new take on it.

>

> Thanks as always

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Joie,

My son had same problem with Celexa when the dose is high, he also

wet bed. Ask your doctor if you should pull it back if it still

happening after a while.

I saw you still use Super Nu Thera, if dr. G will ask you to stop

take mega vitamine and supplements (EPA) before a child is on

protocol.

Many of us used to use Super Nu Thera, and EPA and more. We do not

miss them after they are stopped. You may want to do the same.

I rember my son got quite hyper on everyday Nuthera after start

protocal.

Jin

> My son seems very tired on the Tenex (1/8 he is 30 pounds). Does

this

> effect go away? I was also wondering if anyone started at

age 4 and how

> long before they saw real results. We have been on it since

November. My son

> just turned 5 and we are about to start more in-home, social and

ABA programs.

> Although he has come very far I just am not sure that these med's

for life

> are a good thing. I have asked this question before I was

wondering if

> anyone had a new take on it.

>

> Thanks as always

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

We started the protocal with the NY clinic in April 2004, a month

before my son turned 4. He was classified as severly autistic. He had

no speech, very little receptive language and major behavioural

issues. While we saw immediate improvement in his overall health, it

has taken much longer for us to see improvements in his autistic type

behaviours. We did see small improvements, but they were like baby

steps. In July of this year (a year & 3 months into the protocal), we

did a med change to Diflucan, and it was like the lightbulb came on.

He's doing great in school/therapy. His receptive language has

increase dramatically. He's sleeping at night (which he'd ver done).

Speech is starting to come. We still have a long way to go, but I feel

like we've turned the corner.

In , dazseaton@a... wrote:

> My son seems very tired on the Tenex (1/8 he is 30 pounds). Does

this

> effect go away? I was also wondering if anyone started at age

4 and how

> long before they saw real results. We have been on it since

November. My son

> just turned 5 and we are about to start more in-home, social and ABA

programs.

> Although he has come very far I just am not sure that these med's

for life

> are a good thing. I have asked this question before I was wondering

if

> anyone had a new take on it.

>

> Thanks as always

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Jin,

I actually did not start him on Super Nu Thera or EFA's until after he was on

the protocol. We started w/ Dr.G last Sept. and while doing more research

I've added these on my own and seen improvements. I love what Dr. G does for

our children, I just like a broader range as no one therapy works for all the

kids. I actually strted adding other things after reading a book called " Real

Boy " by . I got a flyer for it in Dr. G's office, he did a

forward for the book. Ms. sees Dr. G but also does her own research and

tries various things to open doors for her son. It was from this book that I

realized that I need to look at other options not just .

Thanks for the advice, I'm just really worried because all Conor wants to do is

sleep (He never did before) and I know that the SSRI's can cause depression in

young children, and this may be COnor's way of telling me this since his

language is limited.

Thanks for the response Jin, you're the only one who did.

Joie

jinyang061629 <yanglou@...> wrote:

Joie,

My son had same problem with Celexa when the dose is high, he also

wet bed. Ask your doctor if you should pull it back if it still

happening after a while.

I saw you still use Super Nu Thera, if dr. G will ask you to stop

take mega vitamine and supplements (EPA) before a child is on

protocol.

Many of us used to use Super Nu Thera, and EPA and more. We do not

miss them after they are stopped. You may want to do the same.

I rember my son got quite hyper on everyday Nuthera after start

protocal.

Jin

> My son seems very tired on the Tenex (1/8 he is 30 pounds). Does

this

> effect go away? I was also wondering if anyone started at

age 4 and how

> long before they saw real results. We have been on it since

November. My son

> just turned 5 and we are about to start more in-home, social and

ABA programs.

> Although he has come very far I just am not sure that these med's

for life

> are a good thing. I have asked this question before I was

wondering if

> anyone had a new take on it.

>

> Thanks as always

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Remember, Guanfacine or Tenex is a vascodilator and is used specifically to

reduce blood pressure in patients with high blood pressure. If your child

already has blood pressure on the low side, then Tenex might have this

effect.

Might be worth getting blood pressure taken.

Re: Re: tenex?

In a message dated 8/22/2005 2:49:36 PM Central Standard Time,

dazseaton@... writes:

<<My son seems very tired on the Tenex (1/8 he is 30 pounds). Does this

effect go away?>>

That could be a sign of low blood pressure. I'd red flag that symptom to

Dr.

G. That was the only negative symptom my son had with the increased dosage

and his blood pressure was low during that time. Spreading out the dosage

into

three times a day removed the tiredness. I imagine it would be very hard to

spread out such a low dose but you might ask Dr. G about cutting 1/4 a

tablet

into three doses to spread it out more (assuming he's now taking 1/8tab

2x/day).

Gaylen

[Guest guest]

> > My 4y/o ASD son is currently on Famvir, Celexa, Tenex,Diflucan,

> EFA's and Super Nu Thera,

> > I have not changed anything in weeks, since upping his Celexa

all

> he wants to do is sleep or watch videos. Today he took a 3 hr nap

> (extremely unsual , he only sleeps 7-9 hrs a night no naps for

> years) and now he has very dark circles under his eyes.

Lethargy and fatique are side effects of many SSRIs. Both my son and husband

had this when taking SSRIs in the AM. Switching to taking them in the PM

helped a lot. We had to experiment with the best time of day. My husband does

best taking them at bedtime and my son does best taking them with dinner.

With the dark circles under the eyes though, I'd suspect possible allergy

since that can also cause fatique. A lot of people have allergic reactions to

things in Super Nu Thera and various EFA supplements.

Gaylen

[Guest guest]

Joie

Dr G says these are called allergy shiners (dark circles) and are

attributed to either an upped allergic response in the child, or an

upped immune response to viral activity. Is it possible he has

gotten dairy in something new? Or, like my area of the country,

weed pollens are very high right now.

HTH

> > My son seems very tired on the Tenex (1/8 he is 30 pounds).

Does

> this

> > effect go away? I was also wondering if anyone started at

> age 4 and how

> > long before they saw real results. We have been on it since

> November. My son

> > just turned 5 and we are about to start more in-home, social

and

> ABA programs.

> > Although he has come very far I just am not sure that these

med's

> for life

> > are a good thing. I have asked this question before I was

> wondering if

> > anyone had a new take on it.

> >

> > Thanks as always

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Is the tenex for anxiety? and if a child is on paxil, isn't that typically

prescribed for anxiety? I took one pill once and it made me nausous and dizzy.

>

> Does Dr G still recommend taking tenex along with an SSRI and anti viral? What

ould the dose for tenex be?

>

> Thanks!

>

>

[Guest guest]

Tenex is an an old blood pressure medicine, but it is used often for ADD.  But

at the same time, it seems to help anxiety and OCD to some extent.  All of

those

show up in a spect as increased blood flow in the deep lower part of the brain

(basal ganglia area?)... maybe because of the inflammation of the blood vessels

higher up in the brain restricting the blood flow and causing it to 'back up' in

the lower part of the brain?  Tenex works as a vasodilator so maybe it does

double duty by helping increase blood flow higher into the brain and relieving

the 'hotter' areas lower down...

________________________________

From: W <nicolewallaceouaf@...>

Sent: Fri, September 17, 2010 1:22:25 PM

Subject: Re: Tenex?

 

Is the tenex for anxiety? and if a child is on paxil, isn't that typically

prescribed for anxiety? I took one pill once and it made me nausous and dizzy.

>

> Does Dr G still recommend taking tenex along with an SSRI and anti viral? What

>ould the dose for tenex be?

>

> Thanks!

>

>