Re: First TX shot--Thought I was going to die (figuratively)

October 30, 2005

Oh Gav,

Sorry you had such a bad time the first shot. Let me give you a little secret. On the day of shot, I literally wear myself out. Do all those little things that I know that will make me sleepy. Then I take my shot, and sleep off the side effects. And honey it does get better as the treatment goes. I am Genotype 1a and yes I have to do the whole 48 weeks. I have 7 more shots come monday, then I will be done. As of now I am still undetectable. So there is a positive side of treatment. Reaching that undetectable!!!

Be sure and let us know how you are doing honey. And remember we are here for you.

Love

JanetZ King wrote:

Well, I took my first Ribavirin and Pegintron 2b shotFriday night. I have genotype 1a with a 220,000 viralload. Hopefully this stuff will wipe it out.I know the first weeks of treatment are the supposedto be the worst, but I didn't expect to get what Idid. Within 4 hours after taking the shot: headachekicked in, then nausea and SEVERE stomach pain, then Ispent the whole night vomiting and major diarrhea.Haven't barely slept since Thursday night. Saturdayall day, I had a headache that felt like someone shotmy brains out; Tylenol isn't helping (and I know toomuch Tylenol is bad for the liver). So I'm foregoingthat. Today, Sunday, it is a bit better. I'm able tohold down some protein shake and a bit of cheese. I'mdrinking as much water as my body can hold to ease thesymptoms. Been drinking water around the clock

sinceFriday. Even keep bottles of the stuff by my bed.I'm still a bit headachey and dizzy today, but I candeal with it. All I can say is WHOA--Friday night wasthe night from hell. Hope this gets easier. At leastmy two dogs have been trying to give me comfort. Theyseem to know when I don't feel good and will snugglewith me in bed and bring me their toys.I had to cancel my date Saturday with a guy I've beendating the past few months. When I told him why (thefallout from the treatment) and about the HepC, hefreaked. I told him I didn't want to have this kind ofserious conversation over the phone. I wanted to tellhim in person. He's in total shock and is worried Igave it to him. That I can understand when peopledon't know much about the virus. He asked if I everplanned on telling him; I told him definitely--he hasthe right to know if the relationship gets serious.And I wanted to make sure I had all my

information,doctor lined up, and treatment plan in the works. Hesaid he would call me today, so I'm waiting for that.And I am prepared if he never calls again, too. It isthe chance I have to take. But I don't want him tohang around out of pity or feels he's obligated. Iknow there are some people who have had the virus foryears, got married, had kids, and no one evercontacted it. I'm trying to remain positive aboutthat. He is a very special person to me, so I'll haveto wait and see.Sorry to be such a downer--it's been the ultimatecrummy weekend. I look forward going into worktomorrow, so I can keep busy and take my mind off ofthis...even if it is for a little bit.Gav __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.comI am a rock, I am island...and a rock feels no pain, and a island never cries...- Simon

October 30, 2005

Oh Gav,

Sorry you had such a bad time the first shot. Let me give you a little secret. On the day of shot, I literally wear myself out. Do all those little things that I know that will make me sleepy. Then I take my shot, and sleep off the side effects. And honey it does get better as the treatment goes. I am Genotype 1a and yes I have to do the whole 48 weeks. I have 7 more shots come monday, then I will be done. As of now I am still undetectable. So there is a positive side of treatment. Reaching that undetectable!!!

Be sure and let us know how you are doing honey. And remember we are here for you.

Love

JanetZ King wrote:

Well, I took my first Ribavirin and Pegintron 2b shotFriday night. I have genotype 1a with a 220,000 viralload. Hopefully this stuff will wipe it out.I know the first weeks of treatment are the supposedto be the worst, but I didn't expect to get what Idid. Within 4 hours after taking the shot: headachekicked in, then nausea and SEVERE stomach pain, then Ispent the whole night vomiting and major diarrhea.Haven't barely slept since Thursday night. Saturdayall day, I had a headache that felt like someone shotmy brains out; Tylenol isn't helping (and I know toomuch Tylenol is bad for the liver). So I'm foregoingthat. Today, Sunday, it is a bit better. I'm able tohold down some protein shake and a bit of cheese. I'mdrinking as much water as my body can hold to ease thesymptoms. Been drinking water around the clock

sinceFriday. Even keep bottles of the stuff by my bed.I'm still a bit headachey and dizzy today, but I candeal with it. All I can say is WHOA--Friday night wasthe night from hell. Hope this gets easier. At leastmy two dogs have been trying to give me comfort. Theyseem to know when I don't feel good and will snugglewith me in bed and bring me their toys.I had to cancel my date Saturday with a guy I've beendating the past few months. When I told him why (thefallout from the treatment) and about the HepC, hefreaked. I told him I didn't want to have this kind ofserious conversation over the phone. I wanted to tellhim in person. He's in total shock and is worried Igave it to him. That I can understand when peopledon't know much about the virus. He asked if I everplanned on telling him; I told him definitely--he hasthe right to know if the relationship gets serious.And I wanted to make sure I had all my

information,doctor lined up, and treatment plan in the works. Hesaid he would call me today, so I'm waiting for that.And I am prepared if he never calls again, too. It isthe chance I have to take. But I don't want him tohang around out of pity or feels he's obligated. Iknow there are some people who have had the virus foryears, got married, had kids, and no one evercontacted it. I'm trying to remain positive aboutthat. He is a very special person to me, so I'll haveto wait and see.Sorry to be such a downer--it's been the ultimatecrummy weekend. I look forward going into worktomorrow, so I can keep busy and take my mind off ofthis...even if it is for a little bit.Gav __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.comI am a rock, I am island...and a rock feels no pain, and a island never cries...- Simon

October 30, 2005

Oh Gav,

Sorry you had such a bad time the first shot. Let me give you a little secret. On the day of shot, I literally wear myself out. Do all those little things that I know that will make me sleepy. Then I take my shot, and sleep off the side effects. And honey it does get better as the treatment goes. I am Genotype 1a and yes I have to do the whole 48 weeks. I have 7 more shots come monday, then I will be done. As of now I am still undetectable. So there is a positive side of treatment. Reaching that undetectable!!!

Be sure and let us know how you are doing honey. And remember we are here for you.

Love

JanetZ King wrote:

Well, I took my first Ribavirin and Pegintron 2b shotFriday night. I have genotype 1a with a 220,000 viralload. Hopefully this stuff will wipe it out.I know the first weeks of treatment are the supposedto be the worst, but I didn't expect to get what Idid. Within 4 hours after taking the shot: headachekicked in, then nausea and SEVERE stomach pain, then Ispent the whole night vomiting and major diarrhea.Haven't barely slept since Thursday night. Saturdayall day, I had a headache that felt like someone shotmy brains out; Tylenol isn't helping (and I know toomuch Tylenol is bad for the liver). So I'm foregoingthat. Today, Sunday, it is a bit better. I'm able tohold down some protein shake and a bit of cheese. I'mdrinking as much water as my body can hold to ease thesymptoms. Been drinking water around the clock

sinceFriday. Even keep bottles of the stuff by my bed.I'm still a bit headachey and dizzy today, but I candeal with it. All I can say is WHOA--Friday night wasthe night from hell. Hope this gets easier. At leastmy two dogs have been trying to give me comfort. Theyseem to know when I don't feel good and will snugglewith me in bed and bring me their toys.I had to cancel my date Saturday with a guy I've beendating the past few months. When I told him why (thefallout from the treatment) and about the HepC, hefreaked. I told him I didn't want to have this kind ofserious conversation over the phone. I wanted to tellhim in person. He's in total shock and is worried Igave it to him. That I can understand when peopledon't know much about the virus. He asked if I everplanned on telling him; I told him definitely--he hasthe right to know if the relationship gets serious.And I wanted to make sure I had all my

information,doctor lined up, and treatment plan in the works. Hesaid he would call me today, so I'm waiting for that.And I am prepared if he never calls again, too. It isthe chance I have to take. But I don't want him tohang around out of pity or feels he's obligated. Iknow there are some people who have had the virus foryears, got married, had kids, and no one evercontacted it. I'm trying to remain positive aboutthat. He is a very special person to me, so I'll haveto wait and see.Sorry to be such a downer--it's been the ultimatecrummy weekend. I look forward going into worktomorrow, so I can keep busy and take my mind off ofthis...even if it is for a little bit.Gav __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.comI am a rock, I am island...and a rock feels no pain, and a island never cries...- Simon

October 30, 2005

Yes it is a hard time;;;and sleeping it off is the best way to deal with it. I went thru the entire 48 weeks of peg-interferon and ribavarin. The virus was undetectable at 12 weeks. A month after I finished,theapy, however, the virus relapsed (with a vengeance) - quite devastating. So now, I am sitting back, not even knowing what step to take next . Has anyone else relapsed? Do you get back into therapy? IT is quite depressing.... But luck to those of you still in therapy - hope you are successful janet wrote:

Oh Gav,

Sorry you had such a bad time the first shot. Let me give you a little secret. On the day of shot, I literally wear myself out. Do all those little things that I know that will make me sleepy. Then I take my shot, and sleep off the side effects. And honey it does get better as the treatment goes. I am Genotype 1a and yes I have to do the whole 48 weeks. I have 7 more shots come monday, then I will be done. As of now I am still undetectable. So there is a positive side of treatment. Reaching that undetectable!!!

Be sure and let us know how you are doing honey. And remember we are here for you.

Love

JanetZ King wrote:

Well, I took my first Ribavirin and Pegintron 2b shotFriday night. I have genotype 1a with a 220,000 viralload. Hopefully this stuff will wipe it out.I know the first weeks of treatment are the supposedto be the worst, but I didn't expect to get what Idid. Within 4 hours after taking the shot: headachekicked in, then nausea and SEVERE stomach pain, then Ispent the whole night vomiting and major diarrhea.Haven't barely slept since Thursday night. Saturdayall day, I had a headache that felt like someone shotmy brains out; Tylenol isn't helping (and I know toomuch Tylenol is bad for the liver). So I'm foregoingthat. Today, Sunday, it is a bit better. I'm able tohold down some protein shake and a bit of cheese. I'mdrinking as much water as my body can hold to ease thesymptoms. Been drinking water around the clock

sinceFriday. Even keep bottles of the stuff by my bed.I'm still a bit headachey and dizzy today, but I candeal with it. All I can say is WHOA--Friday night wasthe night from hell. Hope this gets easier. At leastmy two dogs have been trying to give me comfort. Theyseem to know when I don't feel good and will snugglewith me in bed and bring me their toys.I had to cancel my date Saturday with a guy I've beendating the past few months. When I told him why (thefallout from the treatment) and about the HepC, hefreaked. I told him I didn't want to have this kind ofserious conversation over the phone. I wanted to tellhim in person. He's in total shock and is worried Igave it to him. That I can understand when peopledon't know much about the virus. He asked if I everplanned on telling him; I told him definitely--he hasthe right to know if the relationship gets serious.And I wanted to make sure I had all my

information,doctor lined up, and treatment plan in the works. Hesaid he would call me today, so I'm waiting for that.And I am prepared if he never calls again, too. It isthe chance I have to take. But I don't want him tohang around out of pity or feels he's obligated. Iknow there are some people who have had the virus foryears, got married, had kids, and no one evercontacted it. I'm trying to remain positive aboutthat. He is a very special person to me, so I'll haveto wait and see.Sorry to be such a downer--it's been the ultimatecrummy weekend. I look forward going into worktomorrow, so I can keep busy and take my mind off ofthis...even if it is for a little bit.Gav __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com

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October 30, 2005

Yes it is a hard time;;;and sleeping it off is the best way to deal with it. I went thru the entire 48 weeks of peg-interferon and ribavarin. The virus was undetectable at 12 weeks. A month after I finished,theapy, however, the virus relapsed (with a vengeance) - quite devastating. So now, I am sitting back, not even knowing what step to take next . Has anyone else relapsed? Do you get back into therapy? IT is quite depressing.... But luck to those of you still in therapy - hope you are successful janet wrote:

Oh Gav,

Sorry you had such a bad time the first shot. Let me give you a little secret. On the day of shot, I literally wear myself out. Do all those little things that I know that will make me sleepy. Then I take my shot, and sleep off the side effects. And honey it does get better as the treatment goes. I am Genotype 1a and yes I have to do the whole 48 weeks. I have 7 more shots come monday, then I will be done. As of now I am still undetectable. So there is a positive side of treatment. Reaching that undetectable!!!

Be sure and let us know how you are doing honey. And remember we are here for you.

Love

JanetZ King wrote:

Well, I took my first Ribavirin and Pegintron 2b shotFriday night. I have genotype 1a with a 220,000 viralload. Hopefully this stuff will wipe it out.I know the first weeks of treatment are the supposedto be the worst, but I didn't expect to get what Idid. Within 4 hours after taking the shot: headachekicked in, then nausea and SEVERE stomach pain, then Ispent the whole night vomiting and major diarrhea.Haven't barely slept since Thursday night. Saturdayall day, I had a headache that felt like someone shotmy brains out; Tylenol isn't helping (and I know toomuch Tylenol is bad for the liver). So I'm foregoingthat. Today, Sunday, it is a bit better. I'm able tohold down some protein shake and a bit of cheese. I'mdrinking as much water as my body can hold to ease thesymptoms. Been drinking water around the clock

sinceFriday. Even keep bottles of the stuff by my bed.I'm still a bit headachey and dizzy today, but I candeal with it. All I can say is WHOA--Friday night wasthe night from hell. Hope this gets easier. At leastmy two dogs have been trying to give me comfort. Theyseem to know when I don't feel good and will snugglewith me in bed and bring me their toys.I had to cancel my date Saturday with a guy I've beendating the past few months. When I told him why (thefallout from the treatment) and about the HepC, hefreaked. I told him I didn't want to have this kind ofserious conversation over the phone. I wanted to tellhim in person. He's in total shock and is worried Igave it to him. That I can understand when peopledon't know much about the virus. He asked if I everplanned on telling him; I told him definitely--he hasthe right to know if the relationship gets serious.And I wanted to make sure I had all my

information,doctor lined up, and treatment plan in the works. Hesaid he would call me today, so I'm waiting for that.And I am prepared if he never calls again, too. It isthe chance I have to take. But I don't want him tohang around out of pity or feels he's obligated. Iknow there are some people who have had the virus foryears, got married, had kids, and no one evercontacted it. I'm trying to remain positive aboutthat. He is a very special person to me, so I'll haveto wait and see.Sorry to be such a downer--it's been the ultimatecrummy weekend. I look forward going into worktomorrow, so I can keep busy and take my mind off ofthis...even if it is for a little bit.Gav __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com

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October 30, 2005

Yes it is a hard time;;;and sleeping it off is the best way to deal with it. I went thru the entire 48 weeks of peg-interferon and ribavarin. The virus was undetectable at 12 weeks. A month after I finished,theapy, however, the virus relapsed (with a vengeance) - quite devastating. So now, I am sitting back, not even knowing what step to take next . Has anyone else relapsed? Do you get back into therapy? IT is quite depressing.... But luck to those of you still in therapy - hope you are successful janet wrote:

Oh Gav,

Sorry you had such a bad time the first shot. Let me give you a little secret. On the day of shot, I literally wear myself out. Do all those little things that I know that will make me sleepy. Then I take my shot, and sleep off the side effects. And honey it does get better as the treatment goes. I am Genotype 1a and yes I have to do the whole 48 weeks. I have 7 more shots come monday, then I will be done. As of now I am still undetectable. So there is a positive side of treatment. Reaching that undetectable!!!

Be sure and let us know how you are doing honey. And remember we are here for you.

Love

JanetZ King wrote:

Well, I took my first Ribavirin and Pegintron 2b shotFriday night. I have genotype 1a with a 220,000 viralload. Hopefully this stuff will wipe it out.I know the first weeks of treatment are the supposedto be the worst, but I didn't expect to get what Idid. Within 4 hours after taking the shot: headachekicked in, then nausea and SEVERE stomach pain, then Ispent the whole night vomiting and major diarrhea.Haven't barely slept since Thursday night. Saturdayall day, I had a headache that felt like someone shotmy brains out; Tylenol isn't helping (and I know toomuch Tylenol is bad for the liver). So I'm foregoingthat. Today, Sunday, it is a bit better. I'm able tohold down some protein shake and a bit of cheese. I'mdrinking as much water as my body can hold to ease thesymptoms. Been drinking water around the clock

sinceFriday. Even keep bottles of the stuff by my bed.I'm still a bit headachey and dizzy today, but I candeal with it. All I can say is WHOA--Friday night wasthe night from hell. Hope this gets easier. At leastmy two dogs have been trying to give me comfort. Theyseem to know when I don't feel good and will snugglewith me in bed and bring me their toys.I had to cancel my date Saturday with a guy I've beendating the past few months. When I told him why (thefallout from the treatment) and about the HepC, hefreaked. I told him I didn't want to have this kind ofserious conversation over the phone. I wanted to tellhim in person. He's in total shock and is worried Igave it to him. That I can understand when peopledon't know much about the virus. He asked if I everplanned on telling him; I told him definitely--he hasthe right to know if the relationship gets serious.And I wanted to make sure I had all my

information,doctor lined up, and treatment plan in the works. Hesaid he would call me today, so I'm waiting for that.And I am prepared if he never calls again, too. It isthe chance I have to take. But I don't want him tohang around out of pity or feels he's obligated. Iknow there are some people who have had the virus foryears, got married, had kids, and no one evercontacted it. I'm trying to remain positive aboutthat. He is a very special person to me, so I'll haveto wait and see.Sorry to be such a downer--it's been the ultimatecrummy weekend. I look forward going into worktomorrow, so I can keep busy and take my mind off ofthis...even if it is for a little bit.Gav __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com

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October 30, 2005

Sally,

I totally agree,, you know when I was in the hospital when I had my gallbladder removed last week,, NONE of the ppl who came in except ONE nurse when she emptied my drain tube ever wore gloves,, not even the doc when he took my drain tube OUT... when the RN started my IV in the waiting area just before I went into the OR ( the original IV was a butterfly, sheesh,, and it infiltrated) she started another IV WITHOUT GLOVES,,, I told her to put them on,, I mean, sheesh,, I HAVE HEP,, its in remission but still!!!!

I refuse to go to any dentist until after I research and check out just HOW they clean and sterilize the equipment,, I HAVE to see the autoclaved instruements before they are opened and put on my tray... IM adamant about THAT...and altho I would love to have a manicure and pedicure while Im here, I wont cuz I dont know just how they sterilize their equipment... I had to wash my equipment in hot soapy water, rinse it, let it air dry, then it went into high level disinfectant that was antifungal, antiviral, anti bacterial for at least 15 min if the level was right and then rinse and let air dry... but all the stuff that was disposable such as emery boards, pusher sticks etc, I either gave them TO each client or if they were a regular client, each person had their own air tight pack to keep their stuff separate from the others and was never used on anyone else... After I did a pedicure,, the tub was washed and rinsed twice with hot soapy water,, then I put in the high level

disinfectant, let it circulate with the jets on for at least 15 min,, then rinsed it twice with hot water,, and then let dry... I never felt even with that that it was clear enough but I never cut anyone,, but I didnt know about my partner who was also sharing the tub with me.. I could only hope she did the same as I did because I was booked so tight that I wouldnt have had time to do the cleaning before,, only after,,, nearly drove me crazy and I didnt know I had hep then,,, only several years later... sigh...

take care,

jaxSally Hines wrote:

Ric,These risks ARE ongoing. I have to battle doctor offices and dental officesall the time about taking HCV virus seriously. They want to think its passedby sexual transmission, and we aren't having sex there. Or that its *only*transfusion. And the current blood supply is safe. <maybe>I agree that getting tested is important. I'd like to know that my doctor,my dentist, and their staff persons are tested, too.Sal-----Original Message-----From: Hepatitis_C_Central [mailto:Hepatitis_C_Central ] On Behalf Of RicSent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 7:24 PMTo: Hepatitis_C_Central Subject: Re: First TX shot--Thought I was going to die(figuratively)you know, I would be more interested in telling peoplethe current risks of catching

HCV. Some of those youmention are still current. In telling people to gettested, it would be helpful to mention those pastrisks. Yes,they are still here, but most businessesand medical practices are up to date. Speculatingabout how we got this disease is the least importantpart. Getting people tested is.It's a pleasure having you join in our conversations. We hope you have foundthe support you need with us. If you are using email for your posts, for easy access to our group, justclick the link-- http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Hepatitis_C_Central/Happy Posting

October 30, 2005

Sally,

I totally agree,, you know when I was in the hospital when I had my gallbladder removed last week,, NONE of the ppl who came in except ONE nurse when she emptied my drain tube ever wore gloves,, not even the doc when he took my drain tube OUT... when the RN started my IV in the waiting area just before I went into the OR ( the original IV was a butterfly, sheesh,, and it infiltrated) she started another IV WITHOUT GLOVES,,, I told her to put them on,, I mean, sheesh,, I HAVE HEP,, its in remission but still!!!!

I refuse to go to any dentist until after I research and check out just HOW they clean and sterilize the equipment,, I HAVE to see the autoclaved instruements before they are opened and put on my tray... IM adamant about THAT...and altho I would love to have a manicure and pedicure while Im here, I wont cuz I dont know just how they sterilize their equipment... I had to wash my equipment in hot soapy water, rinse it, let it air dry, then it went into high level disinfectant that was antifungal, antiviral, anti bacterial for at least 15 min if the level was right and then rinse and let air dry... but all the stuff that was disposable such as emery boards, pusher sticks etc, I either gave them TO each client or if they were a regular client, each person had their own air tight pack to keep their stuff separate from the others and was never used on anyone else... After I did a pedicure,, the tub was washed and rinsed twice with hot soapy water,, then I put in the high level

disinfectant, let it circulate with the jets on for at least 15 min,, then rinsed it twice with hot water,, and then let dry... I never felt even with that that it was clear enough but I never cut anyone,, but I didnt know about my partner who was also sharing the tub with me.. I could only hope she did the same as I did because I was booked so tight that I wouldnt have had time to do the cleaning before,, only after,,, nearly drove me crazy and I didnt know I had hep then,,, only several years later... sigh...

take care,

jaxSally Hines wrote:

Ric,These risks ARE ongoing. I have to battle doctor offices and dental officesall the time about taking HCV virus seriously. They want to think its passedby sexual transmission, and we aren't having sex there. Or that its *only*transfusion. And the current blood supply is safe. <maybe>I agree that getting tested is important. I'd like to know that my doctor,my dentist, and their staff persons are tested, too.Sal-----Original Message-----From: Hepatitis_C_Central [mailto:Hepatitis_C_Central ] On Behalf Of RicSent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 7:24 PMTo: Hepatitis_C_Central Subject: Re: First TX shot--Thought I was going to die(figuratively)you know, I would be more interested in telling peoplethe current risks of catching

HCV. Some of those youmention are still current. In telling people to gettested, it would be helpful to mention those pastrisks. Yes,they are still here, but most businessesand medical practices are up to date. Speculatingabout how we got this disease is the least importantpart. Getting people tested is.It's a pleasure having you join in our conversations. We hope you have foundthe support you need with us. If you are using email for your posts, for easy access to our group, justclick the link-- http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Hepatitis_C_Central/Happy Posting

October 30, 2005

ok ladies I agree. we're talking about real

possibilities here. What I'm trying to say is the

policies and procedures are established to keep these

risks at a minimum. If there not followed and there

is a case, it's because of human failure. The red

cross can't guarantee every bag of blood is safe.

Condoms can stop an STTD, but not ALWAYS. How much is

the risk here compared to sex? Especially unprotected.

It's all worthy of being talked about, I agree. In one

of these areas you have more control than the others,

and thats sex. Possible risk is everywhere. How

freaked out out do you want to be about it?

ps. Jax, how can you ever leave the house?? Just

kidding but you do seem a little overcautious....r

and BTW, really hoping you are ok.

October 30, 2005

ok ladies I agree. we're talking about real

possibilities here. What I'm trying to say is the

policies and procedures are established to keep these

risks at a minimum. If there not followed and there

is a case, it's because of human failure. The red

cross can't guarantee every bag of blood is safe.

Condoms can stop an STTD, but not ALWAYS. How much is

the risk here compared to sex? Especially unprotected.

It's all worthy of being talked about, I agree. In one

of these areas you have more control than the others,

and thats sex. Possible risk is everywhere. How

freaked out out do you want to be about it?

ps. Jax, how can you ever leave the house?? Just

kidding but you do seem a little overcautious....r

and BTW, really hoping you are ok.

October 30, 2005

Ric,

The point I'm trying to make is that these risks are much more common, and

probably more likely the infection method of the percentage of " unknonwn "

than sex is. And frankly the policies and procedures for safe sex are

established also. The likelihood of infection from my dentist is much higher

than the likelihood of infection from even unprotected sex with me. It does

no one any service by promoting something that isn't a real threat over

something that's not very real.

Anyone remember the old movies about the evils of Marijuana years ago? How

the use of the weed would ALWAYS lead to profigate sex and hard drug

addiction? Then we all realized that the movies were lies, or primarily

lies. I mean, *I* never got any profligate sex off of a joint, did you? More

likely for me off a bottle of wine. Anyway, since the movies were a lie,

then the other drug warnings must be lies too.

Careful you don't get us all bit in the butt with that sex transmission

thing, ric.

Sal

RE: First TX shot--Thought I was going to die

(figuratively)

ok ladies I agree. we're talking about real

possibilities here. What I'm trying to say is the

policies and procedures are established to keep these

risks at a minimum. If there not followed and there

is a case, it's because of human failure. The red

cross can't guarantee every bag of blood is safe.

Condoms can stop an STTD, but not ALWAYS. How much is

the risk here compared to sex? Especially unprotected.

It's all worthy of being talked about, I agree. In one

of these areas you have more control than the others,

and thats sex. Possible risk is everywhere. How

freaked out out do you want to be about it?

ps. Jax, how can you ever leave the house?? Just

kidding but you do seem a little overcautious....r

and BTW, really hoping you are ok.

It's a pleasure having you join in our conversations. We hope you have found

the support you need with us.

If you are using email for your posts, for easy access to our group, just

click the link-- http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Hepatitis_C_Central/

Happy Posting

October 30, 2005

Ric,

The point I'm trying to make is that these risks are much more common, and

probably more likely the infection method of the percentage of " unknonwn "

than sex is. And frankly the policies and procedures for safe sex are

established also. The likelihood of infection from my dentist is much higher

than the likelihood of infection from even unprotected sex with me. It does

no one any service by promoting something that isn't a real threat over

something that's not very real.

Anyone remember the old movies about the evils of Marijuana years ago? How

the use of the weed would ALWAYS lead to profigate sex and hard drug

addiction? Then we all realized that the movies were lies, or primarily

lies. I mean, *I* never got any profligate sex off of a joint, did you? More

likely for me off a bottle of wine. Anyway, since the movies were a lie,

then the other drug warnings must be lies too.

Careful you don't get us all bit in the butt with that sex transmission

thing, ric.

Sal

RE: First TX shot--Thought I was going to die

(figuratively)

ok ladies I agree. we're talking about real

possibilities here. What I'm trying to say is the

policies and procedures are established to keep these

risks at a minimum. If there not followed and there

is a case, it's because of human failure. The red

cross can't guarantee every bag of blood is safe.

Condoms can stop an STTD, but not ALWAYS. How much is

the risk here compared to sex? Especially unprotected.

It's all worthy of being talked about, I agree. In one

of these areas you have more control than the others,

and thats sex. Possible risk is everywhere. How

freaked out out do you want to be about it?

ps. Jax, how can you ever leave the house?? Just

kidding but you do seem a little overcautious....r

and BTW, really hoping you are ok.

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October 31, 2005

--hi, Same thing happened to me. 48 weeks with pegasys/ribavirin.

No virus at 3 months, 212,000 at 6 months then at the end no virus.

But 6 months later 15,000,000; off the scale I guess. I'm type 1-A

and get another biopsy Wednesday, first in over three years. Got my

fingers crossed.

- In Hepatitis_C_Central , perky rose <agann_01@y...>

wrote:

>

> Yes it is a hard time;;;and sleeping it off is the best way to

deal with it. I went thru the entire 48 weeks of peg-interferon and

ribavarin. The virus was undetectable at 12 weeks. A month after I

finished,theapy, however, the virus relapsed (with a vengeance) -

quite devastating. So now, I am sitting back, not even knowing what

step to take next . Has anyone else relapsed? Do you get back into

therapy? IT is quite depressing.... But luck to those of you still

in therapy - hope you are successful

>

> janet <doc_jade@y...> wrote:Oh Gav,

> Sorry you had such a bad time the first shot. Let me give you a

little secret. On the day of shot, I literally wear myself out. Do

all those little things that I know that will make me sleepy. Then I

take my shot, and sleep off the side effects. And honey it does get

better as the treatment goes. I am Genotype 1a and yes I have to do

the whole 48 weeks. I have 7 more shots come monday, then I will be

done. As of now I am still undetectable. So there is a positive side

of treatment. Reaching that undetectable!!!

> Be sure and let us know how you are doing honey. And remember we

are here for you.

> Love

> Janet

>

> Z King <gavriella_rachel@y...> wrote:

> Well, I took my first Ribavirin and Pegintron 2b shot

> Friday night. I have genotype 1a with a 220,000 viral

> load. Hopefully this stuff will wipe it out.

>

> I know the first weeks of treatment are the supposed

> to be the worst, but I didn't expect to get what I

> did. Within 4 hours after taking the shot: headache

> kicked in, then nausea and SEVERE stomach pain, then I

> spent the whole night vomiting and major diarrhea.

> Haven't barely slept since Thursday night. Saturday

> all day, I had a headache that felt like someone shot

> my brains out; Tylenol isn't helping (and I know too

> much Tylenol is bad for the liver). So I'm foregoing

> that. Today, Sunday, it is a bit better. I'm able to

> hold down some protein shake and a bit of cheese. I'm

> drinking as much water as my body can hold to ease the

> symptoms. Been drinking water around the clock since

> Friday. Even keep bottles of the stuff by my bed.

>

> I'm still a bit headachey and dizzy today, but I can

> deal with it. All I can say is WHOA--Friday night was

> the night from hell. Hope this gets easier. At least

> my two dogs have been trying to give me comfort. They

> seem to know when I don't feel good and will snuggle

> with me in bed and bring me their toys.

>

> I had to cancel my date Saturday with a guy I've been

> dating the past few months. When I told him why (the

> fallout from the treatment) and about the HepC, he

> freaked. I told him I didn't want to have this kind of

> serious conversation over the phone. I wanted to tell

> him in person. He's in total shock and is worried I

> gave it to him. That I can understand when people

> don't know much about the virus. He asked if I ever

> planned on telling him; I told him definitely--he has

> the right to know if the relationship gets serious.

> And I wanted to make sure I had all my information,

> doctor lined up, and treatment plan in the works. He

> said he would call me today, so I'm waiting for that.

>

> And I am prepared if he never calls again, too. It is

> the chance I have to take. But I don't want him to

> hang around out of pity or feels he's obligated. I

> know there are some people who have had the virus for

> years, got married, had kids, and no one ever

> contacted it. I'm trying to remain positive about

> that. He is a very special person to me, so I'll have

> to wait and see.

>

> Sorry to be such a downer--it's been the ultimate

> crummy weekend. I look forward going into work

> tomorrow, so I can keep busy and take my mind off of

> this...even if it is for a little bit.

>

> Gav

>

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October 31, 2005

--hi, Same thing happened to me. 48 weeks with pegasys/ribavirin.

No virus at 3 months, 212,000 at 6 months then at the end no virus.

But 6 months later 15,000,000; off the scale I guess. I'm type 1-A

and get another biopsy Wednesday, first in over three years. Got my

fingers crossed.

- In Hepatitis_C_Central , perky rose <agann_01@y...>

wrote:

>

> Yes it is a hard time;;;and sleeping it off is the best way to

deal with it. I went thru the entire 48 weeks of peg-interferon and

ribavarin. The virus was undetectable at 12 weeks. A month after I

finished,theapy, however, the virus relapsed (with a vengeance) -

quite devastating. So now, I am sitting back, not even knowing what

step to take next . Has anyone else relapsed? Do you get back into

therapy? IT is quite depressing.... But luck to those of you still

in therapy - hope you are successful

>

> janet <doc_jade@y...> wrote:Oh Gav,

> Sorry you had such a bad time the first shot. Let me give you a

little secret. On the day of shot, I literally wear myself out. Do

all those little things that I know that will make me sleepy. Then I

take my shot, and sleep off the side effects. And honey it does get

better as the treatment goes. I am Genotype 1a and yes I have to do

the whole 48 weeks. I have 7 more shots come monday, then I will be

done. As of now I am still undetectable. So there is a positive side

of treatment. Reaching that undetectable!!!

> Be sure and let us know how you are doing honey. And remember we

are here for you.

> Love

> Janet

>

> Z King <gavriella_rachel@y...> wrote:

> Well, I took my first Ribavirin and Pegintron 2b shot

> Friday night. I have genotype 1a with a 220,000 viral

> load. Hopefully this stuff will wipe it out.

>

> I know the first weeks of treatment are the supposed

> to be the worst, but I didn't expect to get what I

> did. Within 4 hours after taking the shot: headache

> kicked in, then nausea and SEVERE stomach pain, then I

> spent the whole night vomiting and major diarrhea.

> Haven't barely slept since Thursday night. Saturday

> all day, I had a headache that felt like someone shot

> my brains out; Tylenol isn't helping (and I know too

> much Tylenol is bad for the liver). So I'm foregoing

> that. Today, Sunday, it is a bit better. I'm able to

> hold down some protein shake and a bit of cheese. I'm

> drinking as much water as my body can hold to ease the

> symptoms. Been drinking water around the clock since

> Friday. Even keep bottles of the stuff by my bed.

>

> I'm still a bit headachey and dizzy today, but I can

> deal with it. All I can say is WHOA--Friday night was

> the night from hell. Hope this gets easier. At least

> my two dogs have been trying to give me comfort. They

> seem to know when I don't feel good and will snuggle

> with me in bed and bring me their toys.

>

> I had to cancel my date Saturday with a guy I've been

> dating the past few months. When I told him why (the

> fallout from the treatment) and about the HepC, he

> freaked. I told him I didn't want to have this kind of

> serious conversation over the phone. I wanted to tell

> him in person. He's in total shock and is worried I

> gave it to him. That I can understand when people

> don't know much about the virus. He asked if I ever

> planned on telling him; I told him definitely--he has

> the right to know if the relationship gets serious.

> And I wanted to make sure I had all my information,

> doctor lined up, and treatment plan in the works. He

> said he would call me today, so I'm waiting for that.

>

> And I am prepared if he never calls again, too. It is

> the chance I have to take. But I don't want him to

> hang around out of pity or feels he's obligated. I

> know there are some people who have had the virus for

> years, got married, had kids, and no one ever

> contacted it. I'm trying to remain positive about

> that. He is a very special person to me, so I'll have

> to wait and see.

>

> Sorry to be such a downer--it's been the ultimate

> crummy weekend. I look forward going into work

> tomorrow, so I can keep busy and take my mind off of

> this...even if it is for a little bit.

>

> Gav

>

> __________________________________

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>

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>

> It's a pleasure having you join in our conversations. We hope you

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>

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>

October 31, 2005

Ok Ok Jax, Lighten Up! You got me scasred to go out after all that.

Oh wait, thats cuz its Halloween LOL!!!

SCARRRRYYY HUUUGGZZZZ, COUNT MARCULA

> Ric,

>

> These risks ARE ongoing. I have to battle doctor offices and

dental offices

> all the time about taking HCV virus seriously. They want to think

its passed

> by sexual transmission, and we aren't having sex there. Or that

its *only*

> transfusion. And the current blood supply is safe. <maybe>

>

> I agree that getting tested is important. I'd like to know that my

doctor,

> my dentist, and their staff persons are tested, too.

>

> Sal

>

> Re: First TX shot--Thought I was

going to die

> (figuratively)

>

> you know, I would be more interested in telling people

> the current risks of catching HCV. Some of those you

> mention are still current. In telling people to get

> tested, it would be helpful to mention those past

> risks. Yes,they are still here, but most businesses

> and medical practices are up to date. Speculating

> about how we got this disease is the least important

> part. Getting people tested is.

>

> It's a pleasure having you join in our conversations. We hope you

have found

> the support you need with us.

>

> If you are using email for your posts, for easy access to our

group, just

> click the link-- http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Hepatitis_C_Central/

>

> Happy Posting

>

October 31, 2005

Ok Ok Jax, Lighten Up! You got me scasred to go out after all that.

Oh wait, thats cuz its Halloween LOL!!!

SCARRRRYYY HUUUGGZZZZ, COUNT MARCULA

> Ric,

>

> These risks ARE ongoing. I have to battle doctor offices and

dental offices

> all the time about taking HCV virus seriously. They want to think

its passed

> by sexual transmission, and we aren't having sex there. Or that

its *only*

> transfusion. And the current blood supply is safe. <maybe>

>

> I agree that getting tested is important. I'd like to know that my

doctor,

> my dentist, and their staff persons are tested, too.

>

> Sal

>

> Re: First TX shot--Thought I was

going to die

> (figuratively)

>

> you know, I would be more interested in telling people

> the current risks of catching HCV. Some of those you

> mention are still current. In telling people to get

> tested, it would be helpful to mention those past

> risks. Yes,they are still here, but most businesses

> and medical practices are up to date. Speculating

> about how we got this disease is the least important

> part. Getting people tested is.

>

> It's a pleasure having you join in our conversations. We hope you

have found

> the support you need with us.

>

> If you are using email for your posts, for easy access to our

group, just

> click the link-- http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Hepatitis_C_Central/

>

> Happy Posting

>

October 31, 2005

Ok Ok Jax, Lighten Up! You got me scasred to go out after all that.

Oh wait, thats cuz its Halloween LOL!!!

SCARRRRYYY HUUUGGZZZZ, COUNT MARCULA

> Ric,

>

> These risks ARE ongoing. I have to battle doctor offices and

dental offices

> all the time about taking HCV virus seriously. They want to think

its passed

> by sexual transmission, and we aren't having sex there. Or that

its *only*

> transfusion. And the current blood supply is safe. <maybe>

>

> I agree that getting tested is important. I'd like to know that my

doctor,

> my dentist, and their staff persons are tested, too.

>

> Sal

>

> Re: First TX shot--Thought I was

going to die

> (figuratively)

>

> you know, I would be more interested in telling people

> the current risks of catching HCV. Some of those you

> mention are still current. In telling people to get

> tested, it would be helpful to mention those past

> risks. Yes,they are still here, but most businesses

> and medical practices are up to date. Speculating

> about how we got this disease is the least important

> part. Getting people tested is.

>

> It's a pleasure having you join in our conversations. We hope you

have found

> the support you need with us.

>

> If you are using email for your posts, for easy access to our

group, just

> click the link-- http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Hepatitis_C_Central/

>

> Happy Posting

>

October 31, 2005

well Willian and Rose,, Im so sorry,, I was/am geno 1a too and I spoke with Dr. Cecil and he advised becasue I was stage 3-4 with early cirrhosis that I should do at least 48 weeks AFTER I tested undetectible.. so I was shooting for 60 weeks, but only made 54,, ended up in the hospital needing 2 units of packed red cells as my hemoglobin dropped to 7.0, RBCS and WBCS were both down to 1.0... made me really mad cuz I got this exactly 27 years ago TODAY when I had my first child and I hemmorrhaged and had to have 4 units of blood after delivery...

so happy birthday to my son and to my liver,, sigh,, br54930701 wrote:

--hi, Same thing happened to me. 48 weeks with pegasys/ribavirin. No virus at 3 months, 212,000 at 6 months then at the end no virus. But 6 months later 15,000,000; off the scale I guess. I'm type 1-A and get another biopsy Wednesday, first in over three years. Got my fingers crossed.- In Hepatitis_C_Central , perky rose <agann_01@y...> wrote:>> Yes it is a hard time;;;and sleeping it off is the best way to deal with it. I went thru the entire 48 weeks of peg-interferon and ribavarin. The virus was undetectable at 12 weeks. A month after I finished,theapy, however, the virus relapsed (with a vengeance) - quite devastating. So now, I am sitting back, not even knowing what step to take next . Has anyone else relapsed? Do you get back into therapy? IT is quite

depressing.... But luck to those of you still in therapy - hope you are successful > > janet <doc_jade@y...> wrote:Oh Gav,> Sorry you had such a bad time the first shot. Let me give you a little secret. On the day of shot, I literally wear myself out. Do all those little things that I know that will make me sleepy. Then I take my shot, and sleep off the side effects. And honey it does get better as the treatment goes. I am Genotype 1a and yes I have to do the whole 48 weeks. I have 7 more shots come monday, then I will be done. As of now I am still undetectable. So there is a positive side of treatment. Reaching that undetectable!!!> Be sure and let us know how you are doing honey. And remember we are here for you.> Love> Janet> > Z King <gavriella_rachel@y...> wrote:> Well, I took my first Ribavirin and Pegintron 2b shot> Friday night. I have genotype 1a

with a 220,000 viral> load. Hopefully this stuff will wipe it out.> > I know the first weeks of treatment are the supposed> to be the worst, but I didn't expect to get what I> did. Within 4 hours after taking the shot: headache> kicked in, then nausea and SEVERE stomach pain, then I> spent the whole night vomiting and major diarrhea.> Haven't barely slept since Thursday night. Saturday> all day, I had a headache that felt like someone shot> my brains out; Tylenol isn't helping (and I know too> much Tylenol is bad for the liver). So I'm foregoing> that. Today, Sunday, it is a bit better. I'm able to> hold down some protein shake and a bit of cheese. I'm> drinking as much water as my body can hold to ease the> symptoms. Been drinking water around the clock since> Friday. Even keep bottles of the stuff by my bed.> > I'm still a bit headachey and dizzy today, but

I can> deal with it. All I can say is WHOA--Friday night was> the night from hell. Hope this gets easier. At least> my two dogs have been trying to give me comfort. They> seem to know when I don't feel good and will snuggle> with me in bed and bring me their toys.> > I had to cancel my date Saturday with a guy I've been> dating the past few months. When I told him why (the> fallout from the treatment) and about the HepC, he> freaked. I told him I didn't want to have this kind of> serious conversation over the phone. I wanted to tell> him in person. He's in total shock and is worried I> gave it to him. That I can understand when people> don't know much about the virus. He asked if I ever> planned on telling him; I told him definitely--he has> the right to know if the relationship gets serious.> And I wanted to make sure I had all my information,> doctor lined

up, and treatment plan in the works. He> said he would call me today, so I'm waiting for that.> > And I am prepared if he never calls again, too. It is> the chance I have to take. But I don't want him to> hang around out of pity or feels he's obligated. I> know there are some people who have had the virus for> years, got married, had kids, and no one ever> contacted it. I'm trying to remain positive about> that. He is a very special person to me, so I'll have> to wait and see.> > Sorry to be such a downer--it's been the ultimate> crummy weekend. I look forward going into work> tomorrow, so I can keep busy and take my mind off of> this...even if it is for a little bit.> > Gav> > > > > >

__________________________________ > Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 > http://mail.yahoo.com> > > I am a rock, I am island...and a rock feels no pain, and a island never cries...- Simon> > > It's a pleasure having you join in our conversations. We hope you have found the support you need with us. > > If you are using email for your posts, for easy access to our group, just click the link-- http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Hepatitis_C_Central/> > Happy Posting > > > >

October 31, 2005