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Nola, thanks so much! This is the worst one I've had in many years.

(Probably I got it because I drink way too many coca-colas, and basically no

water). But, I'm drinking water now, whether I like it or not. Thanks for

caring, and sure hope you are doing well! Love, PJ

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PJ,

I am so sorry to hear that you are ill. A kidney infection is nothing to mess

around with. I hope you rest and get better so. Lots of love Nola

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Nola, thanks so much! This is the worst one I've had in many years.

(Probably I got it because I drink way too many coca-colas, and basically no

water). But, I'm drinking water now, whether I like it or not. Thanks for

caring, and sure hope you are doing well! Love, PJ

N wrote:

PJ,

I am so sorry to hear that you are ill. A kidney infection is nothing to mess

around with. I hope you rest and get better so. Lots of love Nola

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Yes, PJ has been a world of help for me and my family throughout all of our

path's that we have been facing. Without her, I wouldn't have reached out

for help, in fact, I wouldn't tell anyone because I was so embarrassed.

inside. She has been there for me as a good friend throughout many trials

and tribulations I have been through and never once turned her back on me.

In fact, there were times when she didn't hear too much from me and she

would contact me to make sure I was all right. She is wonderful and without

her, I wouldn't have made it this far. Without someone good and kind backing

you, you really have nothing. I thank the Lord every day for her, she has

been my " rock " always telling me or showing me how to keep my head above

water when I felt like giving up, she was always there. My family and I

thank you PJ, thanks for being YOU!! Nola

-- Re: Update!!

Yes, Thank You, SARAH!!!!! I greatly appreciate that also!! It is so

super when a person can help this time, and then a different person help the

next time!! Makes me all happy inside! Can't thank you enough -- as my

resources were low right now -- Thank You!!! PJ

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Nola, gosh! You are making me blush, and embarrassing me. I'm just a

person who cares, a lot! That's all. I'm one that would do so much for people

if I was a millionaire, or won the lottery!! I'm very generous. Unfortunately,

I don't have much to be generous about! That is why I give of myself -- 'cause

that's all I got! Love & Hugs, PJ

" Typing Fingers ^..^ " wrote:Yes, PJ has been a world

of help for me and my family throughout all of our

path's that we have been facing. Without her, I wouldn't have reached out

for help, in fact, I wouldn't tell anyone because I was so embarrassed.

inside. She has been there for me as a good friend throughout many trials

and tribulations I have been through and never once turned her back on me.

In fact, there were times when she didn't hear too much from me and she

would contact me to make sure I was all right. She is wonderful and without

her, I wouldn't have made it this far. Without someone good and kind backing

you, you really have nothing. I thank the Lord every day for her, she has

been my " rock " always telling me or showing me how to keep my head above

water when I felt like giving up, she was always there. My family and I

thank you PJ, thanks for being YOU!! Nola

-- Re: Update!!

Yes, Thank You, SARAH!!!!! I greatly appreciate that also!! It is so

super when a person can help this time, and then a different person help the

next time!! Makes me all happy inside! Can't thank you enough -- as my

resources were low right now -- Thank You!!! PJ

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Nola, gosh! You are making me blush, and embarrassing me. I'm just a

person who cares, a lot! That's all. I'm one that would do so much for people

if I was a millionaire, or won the lottery!! I'm very generous. Unfortunately,

I don't have much to be generous about! That is why I give of myself -- 'cause

that's all I got! Love & Hugs, PJ

" Typing Fingers ^..^ " wrote:Yes, PJ has been a world

of help for me and my family throughout all of our

path's that we have been facing. Without her, I wouldn't have reached out

for help, in fact, I wouldn't tell anyone because I was so embarrassed.

inside. She has been there for me as a good friend throughout many trials

and tribulations I have been through and never once turned her back on me.

In fact, there were times when she didn't hear too much from me and she

would contact me to make sure I was all right. She is wonderful and without

her, I wouldn't have made it this far. Without someone good and kind backing

you, you really have nothing. I thank the Lord every day for her, she has

been my " rock " always telling me or showing me how to keep my head above

water when I felt like giving up, she was always there. My family and I

thank you PJ, thanks for being YOU!! Nola

-- Re: Update!!

Yes, Thank You, SARAH!!!!! I greatly appreciate that also!! It is so

super when a person can help this time, and then a different person help the

next time!! Makes me all happy inside! Can't thank you enough -- as my

resources were low right now -- Thank You!!! PJ

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LOL PJ, Didn't mean to make you blush, but sometimes people need to know, ya

know? LOL You are one of those very special people in my life and I think

you should just take a bow LOL Nola

-- Re: Update!!

Yes, Thank You, SARAH!!!!! I greatly appreciate that also!! It is

so super when a person can help this time, and then a different person help

the next time!! Makes me all happy inside! Can't thank you enough -- as my

resources were low right now -- Thank You!!! PJ

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LOL PJ, Didn't mean to make you blush, but sometimes people need to know, ya

know? LOL You are one of those very special people in my life and I think

you should just take a bow LOL Nola

-- Re: Update!!

Yes, Thank You, SARAH!!!!! I greatly appreciate that also!! It is

so super when a person can help this time, and then a different person help

the next time!! Makes me all happy inside! Can't thank you enough -- as my

resources were low right now -- Thank You!!! PJ

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PJ,

I understand herniated disc.been there, done that, don't want the

t-shirt thank you very much. Your orthopedic is right..you cannot do

any strenuous exercise until you get that fixed. But there are

strengthening exercises you can do. The extra weight has A LOT to do

with it. I lost about 80 pounds and it has made a huge difference. I

still need to lose another 30-40 so I'm not there yet, but I know I'll

feel even better then. I, too, HATE and I mean LOATHE exercise. I

don't mind being active, but hate doing exercises. I'm terrible at it,

which is why I haven't lost the other weight..that and I like to eat!

But, while you can't exercise, you CAN quit eating all the crap and

drinking cokes, etc. My weakness is carbs..I love anything bready and

salty and then cheese.oh how I love cheese! The thing is, when you eat

more healthy you really DO feel better. And you feel more positive

about yourself. What I did was take one day, one hour even, at a time

and say I was going to make the right choice. Looking at it more than

that was way too overwhelming. I'm saying this to myself because I have

gotten into some horrid habits of eating the junk again. It is so easy

to get the junk food we all love to eat and what makes it worse is that

in a lot of cases it is cheaper than eating healthy. I'm not trying to

diminish what you are saying, but to encourage you the other way. It

CAN be done and you will feel so much better when you are done.not only

physically, but about yourself.

Cole

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Well, if you can do it, than I can do it! Sure hope my discs aren't

ruptured!! My MRI is tomorrow morning, but won't get the results until

Wednesday afternoon. The doc said he thought all of the discs in the lumbar

region are affected, but I'm hoping and praying that they aren't ruptured!!

Thanks for the advice!

I gave up coca-colas once for two whole years!! Lost a ton of weight

and felt great, had energy again, looked great, etc. But, those headaches and

withdrawal symptoms were the pits! Well I'm encouraged. I'll let you know what

I find out! Thanks Much, PJ

Cole wrote:

PJ,

LOL, the surgeon refused to do surgery on me unless the disc ruptured

because my personality is one that doesn't stop and he said I'd just be back

in a few years with the one above it blown out. It still took me years

before I lost the weight. I'm addicted to Diet Coke, so I understand....at

least the caffeine issue. According to my doc, the chemicals in coke will

destroy things in your back as well, but I haven't managed to get off them

yet. The only time I did, I went cold turkey and went through the headaches

and THEN read an article not to ever try to go off caffeine cold turkey lol

No magic answer on the weight...it was just not eating as much. I still ate

some junk food, but in far less quantities...now to get back into that

habit!!!

Cole

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-- RE: PJ

,

Wow!!! That is a lot of weight to lose! How did you do it,

other than the hour at a time thing?! I'm hoping to be able to avoid

surgery. Did you have surgery on your back, or just lost weight and did

strengthening exercises?! Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!!

Mine is the lumbar and sacral region -- lower back. Thanks so much! I'm

addicted to cokes, and need to cut them out again -- that is one of my worst

fears -- the awful withdrawal symptoms I get when I'm cutting them out.

Been there several times before! Hugs, PJ

wrote:

PJ,

I understand herniated disc.been there, done that, don't want the

t-shirt thank you very much. Your orthopedic is right..you cannot do

any strenuous exercise until you get that fixed. But there are

strengthening exercises you can do. The extra weight has A LOT to do

with it. I lost about 80 pounds and it has made a huge difference. I

still need to lose another 30-40 so I'm not there yet, but I know I'll

feel even better then. I, too, HATE and I mean LOATHE exercise. I

don't mind being active, but hate doing exercises. I'm terrible at it,

which is why I haven't lost the other weight..that and I like to eat!

But, while you can't exercise, you CAN quit eating all the crap and

drinking cokes, etc. My weakness is carbs..I love anything bready and

salty and then cheese.oh how I love cheese! The thing is, when you eat

more healthy you really DO feel better. And you feel more positive

about yourself. What I did was take one day, one hour even, at a time

and say I was going to make the right choice. Looking at it more than

that was way too overwhelming. I'm saying this to myself because I have

gotten into some horrid habits of eating the junk again. It is so easy

to get the junk food we all love to eat and what makes it worse is that

in a lot of cases it is cheaper than eating healthy. I'm not trying to

diminish what you are saying, but to encourage you the other way. It

CAN be done and you will feel so much better when you are done.not only

physically, but about yourself.

Cole

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PJ,

Am headed to bed...should have been there 3 hours ago (fighting a nasty

sinus thing again)...but all I can say about the cokes is don't do it cold

turkey. Everything I have read says to slowly diminish. I drink them all

day long....when I took myself off them..or mostly off them, I started with

not having one after work, and then it was none after lunch, and then it was

only the one in the morning. Your body isn't going through such a shock

then.

And YES, you can do it!

Cole

Black Bridge Creations - Quality, Hand Crafted Originals

Black Bridge Farm - Icelandic Sheep & Fiber

-- RE: PJ

,

Wow!!! That is a lot of weight to lose! How did you do it,

other than the hour at a time thing?! I'm hoping to be able to avoid

surgery. Did you have surgery on your back, or just lost weight and did

strengthening exercises?! Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!!

Mine is the lumbar and sacral region -- lower back. Thanks so much! I'm

addicted to cokes, and need to cut them out again -- that is one of my worst

fears -- the awful withdrawal symptoms I get when I'm cutting them out.

Been there several times before! Hugs, PJ

wrote:

PJ,

I understand herniated disc.been there, done that, don't want the

t-shirt thank you very much. Your orthopedic is right..you cannot do

any strenuous exercise until you get that fixed. But there are

strengthening exercises you can do. The extra weight has A LOT to do

with it. I lost about 80 pounds and it has made a huge difference. I

still need to lose another 30-40 so I'm not there yet, but I know I'll

feel even better then. I, too, HATE and I mean LOATHE exercise. I

don't mind being active, but hate doing exercises. I'm terrible at it,

which is why I haven't lost the other weight..that and I like to eat!

But, while you can't exercise, you CAN quit eating all the crap and

drinking cokes, etc. My weakness is carbs..I love anything bready and

salty and then cheese.oh how I love cheese! The thing is, when you eat

more healthy you really DO feel better. And you feel more positive

about yourself. What I did was take one day, one hour even, at a time

and say I was going to make the right choice. Looking at it more than

that was way too overwhelming. I'm saying this to myself because I have

gotten into some horrid habits of eating the junk again. It is so easy

to get the junk food we all love to eat and what makes it worse is that

in a lot of cases it is cheaper than eating healthy. I'm not trying to

diminish what you are saying, but to encourage you the other way. It

CAN be done and you will feel so much better when you are done.not only

physically, but about yourself.

Cole

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PJ,

Am headed to bed...should have been there 3 hours ago (fighting a nasty

sinus thing again)...but all I can say about the cokes is don't do it cold

turkey. Everything I have read says to slowly diminish. I drink them all

day long....when I took myself off them..or mostly off them, I started with

not having one after work, and then it was none after lunch, and then it was

only the one in the morning. Your body isn't going through such a shock

then.

And YES, you can do it!

Cole

Black Bridge Creations - Quality, Hand Crafted Originals

Black Bridge Farm - Icelandic Sheep & Fiber

-- RE: PJ

,

Wow!!! That is a lot of weight to lose! How did you do it,

other than the hour at a time thing?! I'm hoping to be able to avoid

surgery. Did you have surgery on your back, or just lost weight and did

strengthening exercises?! Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!!

Mine is the lumbar and sacral region -- lower back. Thanks so much! I'm

addicted to cokes, and need to cut them out again -- that is one of my worst

fears -- the awful withdrawal symptoms I get when I'm cutting them out.

Been there several times before! Hugs, PJ

wrote:

PJ,

I understand herniated disc.been there, done that, don't want the

t-shirt thank you very much. Your orthopedic is right..you cannot do

any strenuous exercise until you get that fixed. But there are

strengthening exercises you can do. The extra weight has A LOT to do

with it. I lost about 80 pounds and it has made a huge difference. I

still need to lose another 30-40 so I'm not there yet, but I know I'll

feel even better then. I, too, HATE and I mean LOATHE exercise. I

don't mind being active, but hate doing exercises. I'm terrible at it,

which is why I haven't lost the other weight..that and I like to eat!

But, while you can't exercise, you CAN quit eating all the crap and

drinking cokes, etc. My weakness is carbs..I love anything bready and

salty and then cheese.oh how I love cheese! The thing is, when you eat

more healthy you really DO feel better. And you feel more positive

about yourself. What I did was take one day, one hour even, at a time

and say I was going to make the right choice. Looking at it more than

that was way too overwhelming. I'm saying this to myself because I have

gotten into some horrid habits of eating the junk again. It is so easy

to get the junk food we all love to eat and what makes it worse is that

in a lot of cases it is cheaper than eating healthy. I'm not trying to

diminish what you are saying, but to encourage you the other way. It

CAN be done and you will feel so much better when you are done.not only

physically, but about yourself.

Cole

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PJ,

Am headed to bed...should have been there 3 hours ago (fighting a nasty

sinus thing again)...but all I can say about the cokes is don't do it cold

turkey. Everything I have read says to slowly diminish. I drink them all

day long....when I took myself off them..or mostly off them, I started with

not having one after work, and then it was none after lunch, and then it was

only the one in the morning. Your body isn't going through such a shock

then.

And YES, you can do it!

Cole

Black Bridge Creations - Quality, Hand Crafted Originals

Black Bridge Farm - Icelandic Sheep & Fiber

-- RE: PJ

,

Wow!!! That is a lot of weight to lose! How did you do it,

other than the hour at a time thing?! I'm hoping to be able to avoid

surgery. Did you have surgery on your back, or just lost weight and did

strengthening exercises?! Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!!

Mine is the lumbar and sacral region -- lower back. Thanks so much! I'm

addicted to cokes, and need to cut them out again -- that is one of my worst

fears -- the awful withdrawal symptoms I get when I'm cutting them out.

Been there several times before! Hugs, PJ

wrote:

PJ,

I understand herniated disc.been there, done that, don't want the

t-shirt thank you very much. Your orthopedic is right..you cannot do

any strenuous exercise until you get that fixed. But there are

strengthening exercises you can do. The extra weight has A LOT to do

with it. I lost about 80 pounds and it has made a huge difference. I

still need to lose another 30-40 so I'm not there yet, but I know I'll

feel even better then. I, too, HATE and I mean LOATHE exercise. I

don't mind being active, but hate doing exercises. I'm terrible at it,

which is why I haven't lost the other weight..that and I like to eat!

But, while you can't exercise, you CAN quit eating all the crap and

drinking cokes, etc. My weakness is carbs..I love anything bready and

salty and then cheese.oh how I love cheese! The thing is, when you eat

more healthy you really DO feel better. And you feel more positive

about yourself. What I did was take one day, one hour even, at a time

and say I was going to make the right choice. Looking at it more than

that was way too overwhelming. I'm saying this to myself because I have

gotten into some horrid habits of eating the junk again. It is so easy

to get the junk food we all love to eat and what makes it worse is that

in a lot of cases it is cheaper than eating healthy. I'm not trying to

diminish what you are saying, but to encourage you the other way. It

CAN be done and you will feel so much better when you are done.not only

physically, but about yourself.

Cole

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Thanks Much, ! You are the best!! Hugs, PJ

Cole wrote:PJ,

Am headed to bed...should have been there 3 hours ago (fighting a nasty

sinus thing again)...but all I can say about the cokes is don't do it cold

turkey. Everything I have read says to slowly diminish. I drink them all

day long....when I took myself off them..or mostly off them, I started with

not having one after work, and then it was none after lunch, and then it was

only the one in the morning. Your body isn't going through such a shock

then.

And YES, you can do it!

Cole

Black Bridge Creations - Quality, Hand Crafted Originals

Black Bridge Farm - Icelandic Sheep & Fiber

-- RE: PJ

,

Wow!!! That is a lot of weight to lose! How did you do it,

other than the hour at a time thing?! I'm hoping to be able to avoid

surgery. Did you have surgery on your back, or just lost weight and did

strengthening exercises?! Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!!

Mine is the lumbar and sacral region -- lower back. Thanks so much! I'm

addicted to cokes, and need to cut them out again -- that is one of my worst

fears -- the awful withdrawal symptoms I get when I'm cutting them out.

Been there several times before! Hugs, PJ

wrote:

PJ,

I understand herniated disc.been there, done that, don't want the

t-shirt thank you very much. Your orthopedic is right..you cannot do

any strenuous exercise until you get that fixed. But there are

strengthening exercises you can do. The extra weight has A LOT to do

with it. I lost about 80 pounds and it has made a huge difference. I

still need to lose another 30-40 so I'm not there yet, but I know I'll

feel even better then. I, too, HATE and I mean LOATHE exercise. I

don't mind being active, but hate doing exercises. I'm terrible at it,

which is why I haven't lost the other weight..that and I like to eat!

But, while you can't exercise, you CAN quit eating all the crap and

drinking cokes, etc. My weakness is carbs..I love anything bready and

salty and then cheese.oh how I love cheese! The thing is, when you eat

more healthy you really DO feel better. And you feel more positive

about yourself. What I did was take one day, one hour even, at a time

and say I was going to make the right choice. Looking at it more than

that was way too overwhelming. I'm saying this to myself because I have

gotten into some horrid habits of eating the junk again. It is so easy

to get the junk food we all love to eat and what makes it worse is that

in a lot of cases it is cheaper than eating healthy. I'm not trying to

diminish what you are saying, but to encourage you the other way. It

CAN be done and you will feel so much better when you are done.not only

physically, but about yourself.

Cole

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Thanks Much, ! You are the best!! Hugs, PJ

Cole wrote:PJ,

Am headed to bed...should have been there 3 hours ago (fighting a nasty

sinus thing again)...but all I can say about the cokes is don't do it cold

turkey. Everything I have read says to slowly diminish. I drink them all

day long....when I took myself off them..or mostly off them, I started with

not having one after work, and then it was none after lunch, and then it was

only the one in the morning. Your body isn't going through such a shock

then.

And YES, you can do it!

Cole

Black Bridge Creations - Quality, Hand Crafted Originals

Black Bridge Farm - Icelandic Sheep & Fiber

-- RE: PJ

,

Wow!!! That is a lot of weight to lose! How did you do it,

other than the hour at a time thing?! I'm hoping to be able to avoid

surgery. Did you have surgery on your back, or just lost weight and did

strengthening exercises?! Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!!

Mine is the lumbar and sacral region -- lower back. Thanks so much! I'm

addicted to cokes, and need to cut them out again -- that is one of my worst

fears -- the awful withdrawal symptoms I get when I'm cutting them out.

Been there several times before! Hugs, PJ

wrote:

PJ,

I understand herniated disc.been there, done that, don't want the

t-shirt thank you very much. Your orthopedic is right..you cannot do

any strenuous exercise until you get that fixed. But there are

strengthening exercises you can do. The extra weight has A LOT to do

with it. I lost about 80 pounds and it has made a huge difference. I

still need to lose another 30-40 so I'm not there yet, but I know I'll

feel even better then. I, too, HATE and I mean LOATHE exercise. I

don't mind being active, but hate doing exercises. I'm terrible at it,

which is why I haven't lost the other weight..that and I like to eat!

But, while you can't exercise, you CAN quit eating all the crap and

drinking cokes, etc. My weakness is carbs..I love anything bready and

salty and then cheese.oh how I love cheese! The thing is, when you eat

more healthy you really DO feel better. And you feel more positive

about yourself. What I did was take one day, one hour even, at a time

and say I was going to make the right choice. Looking at it more than

that was way too overwhelming. I'm saying this to myself because I have

gotten into some horrid habits of eating the junk again. It is so easy

to get the junk food we all love to eat and what makes it worse is that

in a lot of cases it is cheaper than eating healthy. I'm not trying to

diminish what you are saying, but to encourage you the other way. It

CAN be done and you will feel so much better when you are done.not only

physically, but about yourself.

Cole

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Thanks Much, ! You are the best!! Hugs, PJ

Cole wrote:PJ,

Am headed to bed...should have been there 3 hours ago (fighting a nasty

sinus thing again)...but all I can say about the cokes is don't do it cold

turkey. Everything I have read says to slowly diminish. I drink them all

day long....when I took myself off them..or mostly off them, I started with

not having one after work, and then it was none after lunch, and then it was

only the one in the morning. Your body isn't going through such a shock

then.

And YES, you can do it!

Cole

Black Bridge Creations - Quality, Hand Crafted Originals

Black Bridge Farm - Icelandic Sheep & Fiber

-- RE: PJ

,

Wow!!! That is a lot of weight to lose! How did you do it,

other than the hour at a time thing?! I'm hoping to be able to avoid

surgery. Did you have surgery on your back, or just lost weight and did

strengthening exercises?! Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!!

Mine is the lumbar and sacral region -- lower back. Thanks so much! I'm

addicted to cokes, and need to cut them out again -- that is one of my worst

fears -- the awful withdrawal symptoms I get when I'm cutting them out.

Been there several times before! Hugs, PJ

wrote:

PJ,

I understand herniated disc.been there, done that, don't want the

t-shirt thank you very much. Your orthopedic is right..you cannot do

any strenuous exercise until you get that fixed. But there are

strengthening exercises you can do. The extra weight has A LOT to do

with it. I lost about 80 pounds and it has made a huge difference. I

still need to lose another 30-40 so I'm not there yet, but I know I'll

feel even better then. I, too, HATE and I mean LOATHE exercise. I

don't mind being active, but hate doing exercises. I'm terrible at it,

which is why I haven't lost the other weight..that and I like to eat!

But, while you can't exercise, you CAN quit eating all the crap and

drinking cokes, etc. My weakness is carbs..I love anything bready and

salty and then cheese.oh how I love cheese! The thing is, when you eat

more healthy you really DO feel better. And you feel more positive

about yourself. What I did was take one day, one hour even, at a time

and say I was going to make the right choice. Looking at it more than

that was way too overwhelming. I'm saying this to myself because I have

gotten into some horrid habits of eating the junk again. It is so easy

to get the junk food we all love to eat and what makes it worse is that

in a lot of cases it is cheaper than eating healthy. I'm not trying to

diminish what you are saying, but to encourage you the other way. It

CAN be done and you will feel so much better when you are done.not only

physically, but about yourself.

Cole

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On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 10:30:07 -0800 (PST) Charlene

writes:

> .... Fortunately, my " slipped "

> disc slipped back in place because I was young and things were more

> flexible back then. ......

I severely herniated S1-L5, L5-L4, and L1-L4 are desiccated (dried

up from age). I did this 13 months ago and I am slowly getting better.

I occasionally fall and get muscle strains, but it never seems to be as

severe as the first. There is hope! I get a great deal of grief from my

boss when I have missed work. He will not let me return until I get a

medical release, and at times it takes me 4 days to get in. A lose-lose

situation. He threatens to fire me, make me go part time, etc., but

without the medical benefits, where am I. Aw, such is life. Don't let

the little things get to me (much). Good luck for all you fellow back

sufferers. At 46, I am guessing down is faster than up? (All puns

intended.)

Regards,

>^,,^< Verbum Domini Manet in Aeternum

Mutato nomine. Nemo me impune lacessit.

Loquitor altier, nil desperandum in extremis.

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Dear PJ,

No, I chose not to have surgery, and focus on strengthening my

lower back and abdominal muscles. In fact, just this last week I noticed

I can cough without the original " problem, " lol! Oh, such laughter age

brings. But, I have Poise, all puns again intended.

:-) Regards,

On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 20:48:16 -0800 (PST) PJ

writes:

> Ooh. , did you get surgery? I'm afraid to ask that

> question. But, would like to know. What all did you do to get

> better?! thanks much for sharing that with me! PJ

>

> fowvay@... wrote:On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 10:30:07 -0800 (PST)

> Charlene

> writes:

> > .... Fortunately, my " slipped "

> > disc slipped back in place because I was young and things were

> more

> > flexible back then. ......

> I severely herniated S1-L5, L5-L4, and L1-L4 are desiccated

> (dried

> up from age). I did this 13 months ago and I am slowly getting

> better.

> I occasionally fall and get muscle strains, but it never seems to be

> as

> severe as the first. There is hope! I get a great deal of grief

> from my

> boss when I have missed work. He will not let me return until I get

> a

> medical release, and at times it takes me 4 days to get in. A

> lose-lose

> situation. He threatens to fire me, make me go part time, etc., but

>

> without the medical benefits, where am I. Aw, such is life. Don't

> let

> the little things get to me (much). Good luck for all you fellow

> back

> sufferers. At 46, I am guessing down is faster than up? (All puns

> intended.)

> Regards,

>

>

> >^,,^< Verbum Domini Manet in Aeternum

> Mutato nomine. Nemo me impune lacessit.

> Loquitor altier, nil desperandum in extremis.

>

>

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,

Very happy to hear it! You always do have a great sense of

humor!! It looks like I have several herniated discs (lumbar and sacral area).

The open MRI that was done was not very readable or very clear according to my

doctor, so they are trying to send me to do a closed MRI if the Insurance will

cover it. My doctor is concerned that they may be ruptured, but that the film

quality is so poor, that it is hard to tell for sure. I know we are talking

L4-L5. and maybe a few others. Will let you know after next week when I go to

the doctor again! I have about four more dr's. appointment next week, in

addition to all I've had the last two weeks. Thanks Much for the encouragement!

PJ

fowvay@... wrote:

Dear PJ,

No, I chose not to have surgery, and focus on strengthening my

lower back and abdominal muscles. In fact, just this last week I noticed

I can cough without the original " problem, " lol! Oh, such laughter age

brings. But, I have Poise, all puns again intended.

:-) Regards,

On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 20:48:16 -0800 (PST) PJ

writes:

> Ooh. , did you get surgery? I'm afraid to ask that

> question. But, would like to know. What all did you do to get

> better?! thanks much for sharing that with me! PJ

>

> fowvay@... wrote:On Tue, 11 Nov 2003 10:30:07 -0800 (PST)

> Charlene

> writes:

> > .... Fortunately, my " slipped "

> > disc slipped back in place because I was young and things were

> more

> > flexible back then. ......

> I severely herniated S1-L5, L5-L4, and L1-L4 are desiccated

> (dried

> up from age). I did this 13 months ago and I am slowly getting

> better.

> I occasionally fall and get muscle strains, but it never seems to be

> as

> severe as the first. There is hope! I get a great deal of grief

> from my

> boss when I have missed work. He will not let me return until I get

> a

> medical release, and at times it takes me 4 days to get in. A

> lose-lose

> situation. He threatens to fire me, make me go part time, etc., but

>

> without the medical benefits, where am I. Aw, such is life. Don't

> let

> the little things get to me (much). Good luck for all you fellow

> back

> sufferers. At 46, I am guessing down is faster than up? (All puns

> intended.)

> Regards,

>

>

> >^,,^< Verbum Domini Manet in Aeternum

> Mutato nomine. Nemo me impune lacessit.

> Loquitor altier, nil desperandum in extremis.

>

>

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PJ -- hang in there! I have a herniated disk between L4 & L5 (lower

back) that flared up in 1999 and I missed 3 months of work due to

that. I had x-rays, a cat scan, and finally an MRI (had to go in that

awful tube!) that showed it up clearly.

The first back dr. I went to saw me for 5 minutes and said --

" Surgery! " Believe me, I got a second opinion. Second (I did my

research the 2nd time and found a much more reputable dr. recommended

by some health professional friends) doctor said surgery is only

NECESSARY when you can't control your bladder or bowel movements

because of the herniated disk(s). There ARE other options. I had a

slow-release steroid shot in the disk, then did a few months of

physical therapy and took anti-inflammatories. It was slow progress,

but it worked. I also chose to strengthen my lower back and

abdominal muscles like did. Walking is the best thing for me,

as well as some specific exercises the PT gave me. I think I am in

better shape now than I was then, fitness-wise, and even though I'm

not always pain-free, I USUALLY am.

Good luck in your progress -- things WILL get better.

Ness

--- PJ <mollyann365@y...> wrote:

> ,

>

> Very happy to hear it! You always do have a

great sense of humor!! It looks like I have several herniated discs

(lumbar and sacral area). The open MRI that was done was not very

readable or very clear according to my doctor, so they are trying to

send me to do a closed MRI if the Insurance will cover it. My doctor

is concerned that they may be ruptured, but that the film quality is

so poor, that it is hard to tell for sure. I know we are talking L4-

L5. and maybe a few others. Will let you know after next week when

I go to the doctor again! I have about four more dr's. appointment

next week, in addition to all I've had the last two weeks. Thanks

Much for the encouragement! PJ

>

>

>

> fowvay@j... wrote:

> Dear PJ,

> No, I chose not to have surgery, and focus on strengthening my

> lower back and abdominal muscles. In fact, just this last week I

noticed

> I can cough without the original " problem, " lol! Oh, such

laughter age

> brings. But, I have Poise, all puns again intended.

> :-) Regards,

>

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PJ -- hang in there! I have a herniated disk between L4 & L5 (lower

back) that flared up in 1999 and I missed 3 months of work due to

that. I had x-rays, a cat scan, and finally an MRI (had to go in that

awful tube!) that showed it up clearly.

The first back dr. I went to saw me for 5 minutes and said --

" Surgery! " Believe me, I got a second opinion. Second (I did my

research the 2nd time and found a much more reputable dr. recommended

by some health professional friends) doctor said surgery is only

NECESSARY when you can't control your bladder or bowel movements

because of the herniated disk(s). There ARE other options. I had a

slow-release steroid shot in the disk, then did a few months of

physical therapy and took anti-inflammatories. It was slow progress,

but it worked. I also chose to strengthen my lower back and

abdominal muscles like did. Walking is the best thing for me,

as well as some specific exercises the PT gave me. I think I am in

better shape now than I was then, fitness-wise, and even though I'm

not always pain-free, I USUALLY am.

Good luck in your progress -- things WILL get better.

Ness

--- PJ <mollyann365@y...> wrote:

> ,

>

> Very happy to hear it! You always do have a

great sense of humor!! It looks like I have several herniated discs

(lumbar and sacral area). The open MRI that was done was not very

readable or very clear according to my doctor, so they are trying to

send me to do a closed MRI if the Insurance will cover it. My doctor

is concerned that they may be ruptured, but that the film quality is

so poor, that it is hard to tell for sure. I know we are talking L4-

L5. and maybe a few others. Will let you know after next week when

I go to the doctor again! I have about four more dr's. appointment

next week, in addition to all I've had the last two weeks. Thanks

Much for the encouragement! PJ

>

>

>

> fowvay@j... wrote:

> Dear PJ,

> No, I chose not to have surgery, and focus on strengthening my

> lower back and abdominal muscles. In fact, just this last week I

noticed

> I can cough without the original " problem, " lol! Oh, such

laughter age

> brings. But, I have Poise, all puns again intended.

> :-) Regards,

>

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PJ -- hang in there! I have a herniated disk between L4 & L5 (lower

back) that flared up in 1999 and I missed 3 months of work due to

that. I had x-rays, a cat scan, and finally an MRI (had to go in that

awful tube!) that showed it up clearly.

The first back dr. I went to saw me for 5 minutes and said --

" Surgery! " Believe me, I got a second opinion. Second (I did my

research the 2nd time and found a much more reputable dr. recommended

by some health professional friends) doctor said surgery is only

NECESSARY when you can't control your bladder or bowel movements

because of the herniated disk(s). There ARE other options. I had a

slow-release steroid shot in the disk, then did a few months of

physical therapy and took anti-inflammatories. It was slow progress,

but it worked. I also chose to strengthen my lower back and

abdominal muscles like did. Walking is the best thing for me,

as well as some specific exercises the PT gave me. I think I am in

better shape now than I was then, fitness-wise, and even though I'm

not always pain-free, I USUALLY am.

Good luck in your progress -- things WILL get better.

Ness

--- PJ <mollyann365@y...> wrote:

> ,

>

> Very happy to hear it! You always do have a

great sense of humor!! It looks like I have several herniated discs

(lumbar and sacral area). The open MRI that was done was not very

readable or very clear according to my doctor, so they are trying to

send me to do a closed MRI if the Insurance will cover it. My doctor

is concerned that they may be ruptured, but that the film quality is

so poor, that it is hard to tell for sure. I know we are talking L4-

L5. and maybe a few others. Will let you know after next week when

I go to the doctor again! I have about four more dr's. appointment

next week, in addition to all I've had the last two weeks. Thanks

Much for the encouragement! PJ

>

>

>

> fowvay@j... wrote:

> Dear PJ,

> No, I chose not to have surgery, and focus on strengthening my

> lower back and abdominal muscles. In fact, just this last week I

noticed

> I can cough without the original " problem, " lol! Oh, such

laughter age

> brings. But, I have Poise, all puns again intended.

> :-) Regards,

>

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