Re: my history for your eyes

[Guest guest]

Two more things to look at are nutritional issues----Ferritin, B12, and

Folic Acid. These are very common anemias with chronic hypo. Also, I think

your progesterone is probably key here because of the fibroid tumors. I

just recently got over a folic acid anemia, but had no ferritin problems,

but could have, had I continued being so hypo. Have you had any of these

nutrients tested?

my history for your eyes

>

> I was dx'd hashi hypoT in 2001, after the birth of my second child.

> The pregnancy went well, except I was tired alot, which I passed off

> as being older (36).

>

> When my family doc tested my TSH it came back at 8.2. I

> started .025 levoxyl, then up to .050, then up to .075 after taking

> myself to endo. Endo discovered anti-tpo antibodies over the limits.

>

> I have tried increasing levoxyl to .088, and it caused palpitations,

> nausea, burning hands and feet. So I stopped. I have tried 1 grain

> of Armour and it caused my bones in my hands to ache like terrible

> arthritis, during the night while sleeping. My legs also felt very

> weak. So I stopped and went back to .075 levoxyl, where I am

> today. I also tried .05 cytomel just recently and it caused my

> heart to beat so fast, esp at night. Not to mention the aching bones.

>

> I have gone to alt doc and he tried herbs and vitamins. Still no

> better. I feel like there is something more going on here.

> Something is missing in my body, or there is too much in my body of

> something.

>

> My symptoms include: fatigue, leg muscle aches, dry skin, hair

> falling out--not to mention cracking and dull, cold hands and feet,

> irregular menstrual bleeding--gyn discovered uterine fibroid in June

> approx. 1 cm in size, extreme bloating, no appetite, no libido,

> irritable and moody-going from Dr. Jekyl to Ms. Hyde so fast, fuzzy

> thinking--unable to concentrate, don't smile as much, stressed,

> brain dead--putting things where they shouldn't go, fingernails

> don't grow, and just plain no zest.

>

> I went for new lab tests (TSH and FT4) last Friday. I haven't

> gotten results yet. Here are tests prior:

>

> Feb 2004: TSH 3.13 (.4-5.50), Free T3 381 (230-420), Free T4 1.5 (.8-

> 1.8).

>

> May 2004: TSH 4.30, Free T4 1.6 and T-3 Uptake T-3 (22-35%).

>

> YOu can see that from Feb to May by TSH has increased. What would

> cause that?

>

> I have had two reports of high cortisol in morning, as well as 24 hr

> urine.

>

> The lastest is my saliva testing: (Only the ones that stood out)

>

> Progesterone 57 (100-600) Low

>

> Ratio: Estradiol to Progesterone: 25 (50-200)

>

> DHEAS 15.8 (3-10) High

>

> Cortisol-morning 13.1 (3-8) High

>

> Cortisol-evening .3 (1-2) Low

>

> Can you offer something that I should be tested for that I haven't

> been tested for yet?

>

> I know that I am not as young as I used to be, chronologically, but

> I feel that I am older that I really am. I want to continue life

> with zest!

>

> One other note, I have a 10 year old child, 3 year old child and a

> husband that has been going through midlife for the past 4 years (if

> not longer), and sometimes I feel that I have no strength for all of

> them. I wonder if this thyroid thing has my mental thinking messed

> up.

>

> Is there hope to feeling better? (I would love to hear from someone

> that has gone from the bottom and survived and is now doing well.)

>

> Thanks for listening (reading, LOL)!

[Guest guest]

I wanted to mention one more thing. You said you tried one grain of

Armour but you continued to have hypo symptoms. How long did you

stay on that grain? I don't think it was enough for you. In order

to give it a chance, you would need to make gradual small increases,

along with testing, and get to an optimal dose for you. With a high

TSH like that, it sounds like you've been chronically undermedicated

(like me). And now you probably have a lot of cell damage, which

would also account for the resistance to an increase in thyroid

hormone.

>

> When my family doc tested my TSH it came back at 8.2. I

> started .025 levoxyl, then up to .050, then up to .075 after

taking

> myself to endo. Endo discovered anti-tpo antibodies over the

limits.

>

> I have tried increasing levoxyl to .088, and it caused

palpitations,

> nausea, burning hands and feet. So I stopped. I have tried 1

grain

> of Armour and it caused my bones in my hands to ache like terrible

> arthritis, during the night while sleeping. My legs also felt

very

> weak.

[Guest guest]

Ferritin? Remind me, why should this be checked?

What can be done IF you are

low, medication?

LYNN

At 07:10 PM 9/15/2004 -0500, you wrote:

Two more things to look at are

nutritional issues----Ferritin, B12, and

Folic Acid. These are very common anemias with chronic hypo.

Also, I think

your progesterone is probably key here because of the fibroid

tumors. I

just recently got over a folic acid anemia, but had no ferritin

problems,

but could have, had I continued being so hypo. Have you had any of

these

nutrients tested?

my history for your eyes

>

> I was dx'd hashi hypoT in 2001, after the birth of my second

child.

> The pregnancy went well, except I was tired alot, which I passed

off

> as being older (36).

>

> When my family doc tested my TSH it came back at 8.2. I

> started .025 levoxyl, then up to .050, then up to .075 after

taking

> myself to endo. Endo discovered anti-tpo antibodies over the

limits.

>

> I have tried increasing levoxyl to .088, and it caused

palpitations,

> nausea, burning hands and feet. So I stopped. I have

tried 1 grain

> of Armour and it caused my bones in my hands to ache like

terrible

> arthritis, during the night while sleeping. My legs also felt

very

> weak. So I stopped and went back to .075 levoxyl, where I

am

> today. I also tried .05 cytomel just recently and it caused

my

> heart to beat so fast, esp at night. Not to mention the aching

bones.

>

> I have gone to alt doc and he tried herbs and vitamins. Still

no

> better. I feel like there is something more going on

here.

> Something is missing in my body, or there is too much in my body

of

> something.

>

> My symptoms include: fatigue, leg muscle aches, dry skin, hair

> falling out--not to mention cracking and dull, cold hands and

feet,

> irregular menstrual bleeding--gyn discovered uterine fibroid in

June

> approx. 1 cm in size, extreme bloating, no appetite, no libido,

> irritable and moody-going from Dr. Jekyl to Ms. Hyde so fast,

fuzzy

> thinking--unable to concentrate, don't smile as much, stressed,

> brain dead--putting things where they shouldn't go, fingernails

> don't grow, and just plain no zest.

>

> I went for new lab tests (TSH and FT4) last Friday. I

haven't

> gotten results yet. Here are tests prior:

>

> Feb 2004: TSH 3.13 (.4-5.50), Free T3 381 (230-420), Free T4 1.5

(.8-

> 1.8).

>

> May 2004: TSH 4.30, Free T4 1.6 and T-3 Uptake T-3 (22-35%).

>

> YOu can see that from Feb to May by TSH has increased. What

would

> cause that?

>

> I have had two reports of high cortisol in morning, as well as 24

hr

> urine.

>

> The lastest is my saliva testing: (Only the ones that stood

out)

>

> Progesterone 57 (100-600) Low

>

> Ratio: Estradiol to Progesterone: 25 (50-200)

>

> DHEAS 15.8 (3-10) High

>

> Cortisol-morning 13.1 (3-8) High

>

> Cortisol-evening .3 (1-2) Low

>

> Can you offer something that I should be tested for that I

haven't

> been tested for yet?

>

> I know that I am not as young as I used to be, chronologically,

but

> I feel that I am older that I really am. I want to continue

life

> with zest!

>

> One other note, I have a 10 year old child, 3 year old child and

a

> husband that has been going through midlife for the past 4 years

(if

> not longer), and sometimes I feel that I have no strength for all

of

> them. I wonder if this thyroid thing has my mental thinking

messed

> up.

>

> Is there hope to feeling better? (I would love to hear from

someone

> that has gone from the bottom and survived and is now doing

well.)

>

> Thanks for listening (reading, LOL)!

[Guest guest]

Is there any way to reverse the cell damage, so that I won't be

thyroid resistant?

Thanks

> >

> > When my family doc tested my TSH it came back at 8.2. I

> > started .025 levoxyl, then up to .050, then up to .075 after

> taking

> > myself to endo. Endo discovered anti-tpo antibodies over the

> limits.

> >

> > I have tried increasing levoxyl to .088, and it caused

> palpitations,

> > nausea, burning hands and feet. So I stopped. I have tried 1

> grain

> > of Armour and it caused my bones in my hands to ache like

terrible

> > arthritis, during the night while sleeping. My legs also felt

> very

> > weak.

[Guest guest]

Ferritin is the storage form of iron, we might say. Serum iron only shows what's going on momentarily. It is common to have this anemia, especially with hypothyroidism because of low metabolism of of all nutrients in the body at this time. This can give the extreme symptoms of tiredness, breathing problems, brain fog. It is one of many things, but is one of the more common ones.

Re: my history for your eyes

Ferritin? Remind me, why should this be checked? What can be done IF you arelow, medication?LYNNAt 07:10 PM 9/15/2004 -0500, you wrote:

Two more things to look at are nutritional issues----Ferritin, B12, andFolic Acid. These are very common anemias with chronic hypo. Also, I thinkyour progesterone is probably key here because of the fibroid tumors. Ijust recently got over a folic acid anemia, but had no ferritin problems,but could have, had I continued being so hypo. Have you had any of thesenutrients tested?

[Guest guest]

Ferritin is the storage form of iron, we might say. Serum iron only shows what's going on momentarily. It is common to have this anemia, especially with hypothyroidism because of low metabolism of of all nutrients in the body at this time. This can give the extreme symptoms of tiredness, breathing problems, brain fog. It is one of many things, but is one of the more common ones.

Re: my history for your eyes

Ferritin? Remind me, why should this be checked? What can be done IF you arelow, medication?LYNNAt 07:10 PM 9/15/2004 -0500, you wrote:

Two more things to look at are nutritional issues----Ferritin, B12, andFolic Acid. These are very common anemias with chronic hypo. Also, I thinkyour progesterone is probably key here because of the fibroid tumors. Ijust recently got over a folic acid anemia, but had no ferritin problems,but could have, had I continued being so hypo. Have you had any of thesenutrients tested?

[Guest guest]

Ferritin is the storage form of iron, we might say. Serum iron only shows what's going on momentarily. It is common to have this anemia, especially with hypothyroidism because of low metabolism of of all nutrients in the body at this time. This can give the extreme symptoms of tiredness, breathing problems, brain fog. It is one of many things, but is one of the more common ones.

Re: my history for your eyes

Ferritin? Remind me, why should this be checked? What can be done IF you arelow, medication?LYNNAt 07:10 PM 9/15/2004 -0500, you wrote:

Two more things to look at are nutritional issues----Ferritin, B12, andFolic Acid. These are very common anemias with chronic hypo. Also, I thinkyour progesterone is probably key here because of the fibroid tumors. Ijust recently got over a folic acid anemia, but had no ferritin problems,but could have, had I continued being so hypo. Have you had any of thesenutrients tested?