Re: Chemical Sensitivities

January 16, 2005

Yeah, I suspected that was it. My body tends to completely

shut down if a dosage amount of anything is too much. I was also

curious about the binders, but I cannot find an " ingredients "

list anywhere, or a phone number for Pam Laboratories. I am

going to start the Armour, take my regular B vitamin instead, and then

ask in a week about the Foltx thing.

What really bummed me out is that I've become a tiny bit more

functional in the last month, and I hate feeling like I am going

backwards in terms of functionality or health.

Courtenay.

You may need smaller doses of those vitamins. You may

also need to balance your other B vitamins and iron.

He gave me an Rx for Foltx, too, but I never filled

it. I prefer to stick with my Twinlabs capsules. I think, too,that

sometimes vitamins are like thyroid meds in that we may need to slowly

build up to our correct dose.

January 17, 2005

Hi Courtenay,

I guess any prescription drug or vitamin can affect many people many

different ways, huh? How strange, I've just never heard of anybody

having that kind of reaction to vitamins. I take my Foltx every

morning with breakfast. It doesn't cause me to feel tired or

druggy. Maybe it's one of those symptoms that will go away with

treatment, that is after you take it for awhile.

I wouldn't worry about " having " to have it in order for your body to

start utilizing the Amour. I think it's a combination of so many

different things; vitamins, the foods we eat, adrenal support,

hormones, and even the Armour itself which in time will heal the

cells so that they will accept more Armour. That's a simplistic way

to explain it, but it's the way I understand it. I think it just

takes time, time, time. And some of us have to build slower than

others.

I was really frustrated at first with those set-backs too, because

it's so awesome when you start feeling better. But it's a gradual

process and before long you'll realize that the periods between the

slumps are increasing in length. I can really see improvements in

how I feel when I look back even 8, 9 months ago. I used to dread

the weekends because I was exhausted and spent so much of the time

just sleeping and laying around. These days I actually have

motivation to go places and do things. Last week I started walking

again. I'm telling you this because if you stick with the Armour

and do what you can with the rest, a little of this, a little of

that, you'll get better too. And I look forward to the day when I

read your posts and you're happy with your improvement too! )

Take care.

> Dear --

>

> spoke with , and they said to go off of it

temporarily. > said to move on and start taking the Armour.

The only thing

> that worries me is that I thought the Foltx was supposed to pave

the

> way for my body to take the Armour. We'll see what happens.

>

January 17, 2005

Hi Courtenay,

I guess any prescription drug or vitamin can affect many people many

different ways, huh? How strange, I've just never heard of anybody

having that kind of reaction to vitamins. I take my Foltx every

morning with breakfast. It doesn't cause me to feel tired or

druggy. Maybe it's one of those symptoms that will go away with

treatment, that is after you take it for awhile.

I wouldn't worry about " having " to have it in order for your body to

start utilizing the Amour. I think it's a combination of so many

different things; vitamins, the foods we eat, adrenal support,

hormones, and even the Armour itself which in time will heal the

cells so that they will accept more Armour. That's a simplistic way

to explain it, but it's the way I understand it. I think it just

takes time, time, time. And some of us have to build slower than

others.

I was really frustrated at first with those set-backs too, because

it's so awesome when you start feeling better. But it's a gradual

process and before long you'll realize that the periods between the

slumps are increasing in length. I can really see improvements in

how I feel when I look back even 8, 9 months ago. I used to dread

the weekends because I was exhausted and spent so much of the time

just sleeping and laying around. These days I actually have

motivation to go places and do things. Last week I started walking

again. I'm telling you this because if you stick with the Armour

and do what you can with the rest, a little of this, a little of

that, you'll get better too. And I look forward to the day when I

read your posts and you're happy with your improvement too! )

Take care.

> Dear --

>

> spoke with , and they said to go off of it

temporarily. > said to move on and start taking the Armour.

The only thing

> that worries me is that I thought the Foltx was supposed to pave

the

> way for my body to take the Armour. We'll see what happens.

>

January 17, 2005

Hey Debbie!

So THAT'S what might be doing it. I could try it

temporarily, but I'm supposed to be adding in a super-duper iron

supplement that I have been told to take before bed, so I don't think

those two can be combined. I don't know-- thanks for the HOT

TIP, though; it will give me something to ask when I call in next.

Also, the druggy feeling didn't stop after eight hours-- it continued

on to the next dose.

Courtenay.

Courtenay,

B-6 makes many people drowsy. Can you take it at

night?

Debbie

January 17, 2005

Hey Debbie!

So THAT'S what might be doing it. I could try it

temporarily, but I'm supposed to be adding in a super-duper iron

supplement that I have been told to take before bed, so I don't think

those two can be combined. I don't know-- thanks for the HOT

TIP, though; it will give me something to ask when I call in next.

Also, the druggy feeling didn't stop after eight hours-- it continued

on to the next dose.

Courtenay.

Courtenay,

B-6 makes many people drowsy. Can you take it at

night?

Debbie

January 17, 2005

Dear --

You really are an angel-- thanks so much for replying to me.

I just get sick of being housebound, and when I start to feel well

enough to do just a little bit, I experience terror when it is taken

away by medications. warned me that it would take a

long time for my body to heal, and I found it strangely comforting

that he was straightforward about the road ahead of me. Even

watching people eat pill-shaped minty Altoids makes me a little

edgy.

In other senses, I've been really proud of myself. I'm

seeing a new therapist who is helping quit smoking, and is also

encouraging me to continue with my meditation practices. He is

really quite an amazing therapist. My eating habits have been

pretty stellar-- and I've managed to do a little bit of writing every

day, even when I've been nasty sick.

The other setbacks I've been having are peripheral, but no less

annoying. A few friends have called recently that I haven't

spoken with for months, and all of them assumed that I must have

gotten well by now and gone back to work. Har-har. My

family support has dropped down to a big zero, and my husband now

carries the entire load of working and helping me take care of myself,

along with a couple of my friends who pop in from time to time.

And let me tell ya-- taking care of a person with a myriad of symptoms

like myself is a barrel of laughs.

On a happier note, I am glad that you have found the energy to

walk. There is actually a form of meditation out there geared

for people who walk, and you might check that out on the 'net if you

get a chance. It sounds quite beautiful.

Sorry for the kvetching.

Best wishes--

Courtenay.

I was really frustrated at first with those set-backs too, because

it's so awesome when you start feeling better. But it's a

gradual

process and before long you'll realize that the periods between

the

slumps are increasing in length. I can really see improvements

in

how I feel when I look back even 8, 9 months ago. I used to

dread

the weekends because I was exhausted and spent so much of the time

just sleeping and laying around. These days I actually have

motivation to go places and do things. Last week I started

walking

again. I'm telling you this because if you stick with the

Armour

and do what you can with the rest, a little of this, a little of

that, you'll get better too. And I look forward to the day when

I

read your posts and you're happy with your improvement too!

)

Take care.

January 17, 2005

Dear --

You really are an angel-- thanks so much for replying to me.

I just get sick of being housebound, and when I start to feel well

enough to do just a little bit, I experience terror when it is taken

away by medications. warned me that it would take a

long time for my body to heal, and I found it strangely comforting

that he was straightforward about the road ahead of me. Even

watching people eat pill-shaped minty Altoids makes me a little

edgy.

In other senses, I've been really proud of myself. I'm

seeing a new therapist who is helping quit smoking, and is also

encouraging me to continue with my meditation practices. He is

really quite an amazing therapist. My eating habits have been

pretty stellar-- and I've managed to do a little bit of writing every

day, even when I've been nasty sick.

The other setbacks I've been having are peripheral, but no less

annoying. A few friends have called recently that I haven't

spoken with for months, and all of them assumed that I must have

gotten well by now and gone back to work. Har-har. My

family support has dropped down to a big zero, and my husband now

carries the entire load of working and helping me take care of myself,

along with a couple of my friends who pop in from time to time.

And let me tell ya-- taking care of a person with a myriad of symptoms

like myself is a barrel of laughs.

On a happier note, I am glad that you have found the energy to

walk. There is actually a form of meditation out there geared

for people who walk, and you might check that out on the 'net if you

get a chance. It sounds quite beautiful.

Sorry for the kvetching.

Best wishes--

Courtenay.

I was really frustrated at first with those set-backs too, because

it's so awesome when you start feeling better. But it's a

gradual

process and before long you'll realize that the periods between

the

slumps are increasing in length. I can really see improvements

in

how I feel when I look back even 8, 9 months ago. I used to

dread

the weekends because I was exhausted and spent so much of the time

just sleeping and laying around. These days I actually have

motivation to go places and do things. Last week I started

walking

again. I'm telling you this because if you stick with the

Armour

and do what you can with the rest, a little of this, a little of

that, you'll get better too. And I look forward to the day when

I

read your posts and you're happy with your improvement too!

)

Take care.

January 17, 2005

Courtenay

Remember....It took me 2.5 years to drop the antibodies. It took one

year to be able to carry a laundry basket across the house and to

push a vaccum cleaner! I too did this bumping up of one drug and

bumping down another. It was not until the adrenals were better

supported that I could handle all of the meds. That is what took the

2 years.

The reason for the Foltex ( I actually take Cerefolin) is it appears

to be the prescription strength/blend that drops the Homocystine

levels. I take the compounded vits with heavy Foltate and B12 and

B6 and it was not until I started the Cerefolin and/or Foltex that my

homocystine levels hit the bottom end of normal. They were sky high

six years ago. I was on a collision course for a cornary with all

that I had wrong with me!

Hang in there. This takes so much time. The changes are very

gradual. For those of us who thrive on immediate reinforcement this

is very frustrating.

Sharon

> Dear --

>

> You really are an angel-- thanks so much for replying to me. I

just

> get sick of being housebound, and when I start to feel well enough

to

> do just a little bit, I experience terror when it is taken away by

> medications. warned me that it would take a long time for

> my body to heal, and I found it strangely comforting that he was

> straightforward about the road ahead of me. Even watching people

eat

> pill-shaped minty Altoids makes me a little edgy.

>

> In other senses, I've been really proud of myself. I'm seeing a

new

> therapist who is helping quit smoking, and is also encouraging me

to

> continue with my meditation practices. He is really quite an

amazing

> therapist. My eating habits have been pretty stellar-- and I've

> managed to do a little bit of writing every day, even when I've

been

> nasty sick.

>

> The other setbacks I've been having are peripheral, but no less

> annoying. A few friends have called recently that I haven't spoken

> with for months, and all of them assumed that I must have gotten

well

> by now and gone back to work. Har-har. My family support has

> dropped down to a big zero, and my husband now carries the entire

> load of working and helping me take care of myself, along with a

> couple of my friends who pop in from time to time. And let me tell

> ya-- taking care of a person with a myriad of symptoms like myself

is

> a barrel of laughs.

>

> On a happier note, I am glad that you have found the energy to

walk.

> There is actually a form of meditation out there geared for people

> who walk, and you might check that out on the 'net if you get a

> chance. It sounds quite beautiful.

>

> Sorry for the kvetching.

>

> Best wishes--

>

> Courtenay.

>

> >

> >I was really frustrated at first with those set-backs too, because

> >it's so awesome when you start feeling better. But it's a gradual

> >process and before long you'll realize that the periods between the

> >slumps are increasing in length. I can really see improvements in

> >how I feel when I look back even 8, 9 months ago. I used to dread

> >the weekends because I was exhausted and spent so much of the time

> >just sleeping and laying around. These days I actually have

> >motivation to go places and do things. Last week I started walking

> >again. I'm telling you this because if you stick with the Armour

> >and do what you can with the rest, a little of this, a little of

> >that, you'll get better too. And I look forward to the day when I

> >read your posts and you're happy with your improvement too! )

> >

> >Take care.

> >

January 17, 2005

Amen. And I have to admit I am not cleaning my own house right now

(I have an angel for a daughter). But I do work full time, and the

fact that I don't have to clean house on the weekends allows me to

get other things done. If I had to clean house I probably wouldn't

have the energy for the other things. I didn't mean to imply that I

have the energy to run a marathon but did want you to know it gets

better. But slowly, and gradually, and you have to try and take

what you can to help it all along. Sometimes you have to back off a

bit with one thing and try again later. :-) ~ Hang in there!

>

> Courtenay

> Remember....It took me 2.5 years to drop the antibodies. It took

one

> year to be able to carry a laundry basket across the house and to

> push a vaccum cleaner! I too did this bumping up of one drug and

> bumping down another. It was not until the adrenals were better

> supported that I could handle all of the meds. That is what took

the

> 2 years.

>

> The reason for the Foltex ( I actually take Cerefolin) is it

appears

> to be the prescription strength/blend that drops the Homocystine

> levels. I take the compounded vits with heavy Foltate and B12

and

> B6 and it was not until I started the Cerefolin and/or Foltex that

my

> homocystine levels hit the bottom end of normal. They were sky

high

> six years ago. I was on a collision course for a cornary with all

> that I had wrong with me!

>

> Hang in there. This takes so much time. The changes are very

> gradual. For those of us who thrive on immediate reinforcement

this

> is very frustrating.

>

> Sharon

>

January 17, 2005