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Hi! I need to know anyone that has information on PANDAS. Please e-mail me

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My son has been checked for PANDAS, he has many of the symptoms and improved on

Antibiotics. I wish I knew more about it however I am just learning of it. I

belong to the Gulf Coast chapter ASA and I first heard of PANDAS at a meeting

from another parent. My husband and I often wonder what hit us. My son was

51/2 when diagnosed with PDD-NOS and it presented in him with extreme OCD it

would improve and then get worse. In February at our monthly meeting one of the

moms was describing something similar and that it may be PANDAS, so I asked our

pedi about it and he said his throat looks fine and then our family doctor said

the same. I couldn't get anyone to do a simple throat test. Finally in June I

found a pedi who knew something about PANDAS he tested my son and sure enough no

temp no redness but swollen tonsils and lots of strepp. It amazed us we didn't

expect it. My sons immune system is definitely not what it should be. I found

some good info on the internet only when I

spelled out PANDAS. I hope this is of some help to you. Good luck.

Dawn

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Hi! I need to know anyone that has information on PANDAS. Please e-mail me

privity if you would like. Thank you, Lois

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Washington county ASA

721 Georgia Ave Hagerstown Md 21740

240-420-3692

jlois@...

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My son has been checked for PANDAS, he has many of the symptoms and improved on

Antibiotics. I wish I knew more about it however I am just learning of it. I

belong to the Gulf Coast chapter ASA and I first heard of PANDAS at a meeting

from another parent. My husband and I often wonder what hit us. My son was

51/2 when diagnosed with PDD-NOS and it presented in him with extreme OCD it

would improve and then get worse. In February at our monthly meeting one of the

moms was describing something similar and that it may be PANDAS, so I asked our

pedi about it and he said his throat looks fine and then our family doctor said

the same. I couldn't get anyone to do a simple throat test. Finally in June I

found a pedi who knew something about PANDAS he tested my son and sure enough no

temp no redness but swollen tonsils and lots of strepp. It amazed us we didn't

expect it. My sons immune system is definitely not what it should be. I found

some good info on the internet only when I

spelled out PANDAS. I hope this is of some help to you. Good luck.

Dawn

Lois Nolan <jlois@...> wrote:

Hi! I need to know anyone that has information on PANDAS. Please e-mail me

privity if you would like. Thank you, Lois

Lois Noland

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Washington county ASA

721 Georgia Ave Hagerstown Md 21740

240-420-3692

jlois@...

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Does anyone know if Dr. Golberg do testing for PANDAS?

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My son has been checked for PANDAS, he has many of the symptoms and improved

on Antibiotics. I wish I knew more about it however I am just learning of it.

I belong to the Gulf Coast chapter ASA and I first heard of PANDAS at a meeting

from another parent. My husband and I often wonder what hit us. My son was

51/2 when diagnosed with PDD-NOS and it presented in him with extreme OCD it

would improve and then get worse. In February at our monthly meeting one of the

moms was describing something similar and that it may be PANDAS, so I asked our

pedi about it and he said his throat looks fine and then our family doctor said

the same. I couldn't get anyone to do a simple throat test. Finally in June I

found a pedi who knew something about PANDAS he tested my son and sure enough no

temp no redness but swollen tonsils and lots of strepp. It amazed us we didn't

expect it. My sons immune system is definitely not what it should be. I found

some good info on the internet only when I

spelled out PANDAS. I hope this is of some help to you. Good luck.

Dawn

Lois Nolan <jlois@...> wrote:

Hi! I need to know anyone that has information on PANDAS. Please e-mail me

privity if you would like. Thank you, Lois

Lois Noland

President

Washington county ASA

721 Georgia Ave Hagerstown Md 21740

240-420-3692

jlois@...

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Does anyone know if Dr. Golberg do testing for PANDAS?

Yes, he does. He ordered an ASO blood test for my son because of some OCD-like

symptoms that I reported. (It was negative in my son's case).

Donna

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From: " Candi DAVIS " <cdavis642@...>

Hello Everyone,

We have been seeing Dr.Goldberg for over 2 years now we just got the

ASO test back and it was a little high...233.....so we are thinking maybe

PANDAS ...we will retest in about a month .......I don't know much about

this ...but I have been reading some posts about Tic with Pandas....what is

that ? Just wondering ...thanks candi

Hi Candi,

Any type of infection can aggravate . If your child has PANDAS on top

of the normal symptoms.......it's pretty hard to miss. The symptoms

come on fairly quickly and are pretty unique. What I've found interesting

is that after years of telling Dr. G. about the urinary problems that

appeared each time we had an OCD flair.......it was finally validated in a

publication in 2002.

This is one article that I could really relate to. Although my son's is

triggered by some other type of infection, his response to antibiotics like

Bactrim and Augmentin have been just as dramatic as described in this

article. He already had ASD symptoms. Then at age seven (2nd grade) he

began the handwashing, extreme nighttime fear/rituals, irrational terrible

moodswings, meltdowns, panic attack meltdowns, deterioration in motor,

handwriting, math, etc. that made it impossible to leave him at school.

There was also a dramatic increase in sensory problems like the sock thing

mentioned. (also light, sound, motion) His third grade teacher has a lot of

notes about his sock complaints and all his willfull " behavioral " problems

and who I'm sure thought I was nuts and making excuses for what was

happening.

http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/content/full/155/11/1592

We've experienced pretty much every symtom during a flair. Without the

right antibiotic we lived an increasing nightmare from about Oct til

sometime in Spring. Then we'd be back to the normal problems until we'd

have another flair in early Fall.

Cheryl

" The OCD behaviors exhibited included hand washing and preoccupation with

germs, but daytime urinary urgency and frequency without dysuria, fever, or

incontinence were the most notable symptoms in our series (58% of patients).

Symptoms disappeared at night. " (Abstract below)

" The children's symptom onset was acute and dramatic, typically triggered by

GABHS infections at a very early age (mean=6.3 years, SD=2.7, for tics;

mean=7.4 years, SD=2.7, for OCD). The PANDAS clinical course was

characterized by a relapsing-remitting symptom pattern with significant

psychiatric comorbidity accompanying the exacerbations; emotional lability,

separation anxiety, nighttime fears and bedtime rituals, cognitive deficits,

oppositional behaviors, and motoric hyperactivity were particularly common " .

Biol Psychiatry. 2004 Jan 1;55(1):61-8.

Detecting pediatric autoimmune neuropsychiatric disorders associated with

streptococcus in children with obsessive-compulsive disorder and tics.

TK, Sajid M, Soto O, Shapira N, Edge P, Yang M, MH, Goodman WK.

Department of Psychiatry, University of Florida, Gainesville, Florida

32610-0256, USA.

BACKGROUND: A subgroup of children with obsessive-compulsive and tic

disorders are proposed to have an infectious trigger. The purpose of this

study was to investigate the relationship between group A streptococcal

titers and symptom fluctuations in children with a clinical course

resembling that described for pediatric autoimmune neuropsychiatric

disorders associated with streptococcus. METHODS: Twenty-five children with

obsessive-compulsive disorder and/or tic disorder were evaluated for

neuropsychiatric severity and group A streptococcal antibody titers

(streptolysin O, deoxyribonuclease B, and carbohydrate A) at 6-week

intervals for > or = six consecutive evaluations (total visits=277).

RESULTS: Children with large symptom fluctuations (n=15) were compared with

children without dramatic fluctuations (n=10). Co-movements of

obsessive-compulsive/tic severity and group A streptococcal antibodies were

assessed. In subjects with large symptom changes, positive correlations were

found between streptococcal titers and obsessive-compulsive severity rating

changes (p=.0130). These subjects were also more likely to have elevated

group A streptococcal titers during the majority of observations (p=.001).

Tic symptom exacerbations occurred more often in the fall/winter months than

spring/summer months (p=.03). CONCLUSIONS: Patients with marked

obsessive-compulsive/tic symptom changes may be characterized by

streptococcal titer elevations and exhibit evidence of seasonal tic

exacerbations.

PMID: 14706426 [PubMed - in process]

Arch Pediatr Adolesc Med. 2002 Apr;156(4):356-61.

Prospective identification and treatment of children with pediatric

autoimmune neuropsychiatric disorder associated with group A streptococcal

infection (PANDAS).

ML, Pichichero ME.

Elmwood Pediatric Group, University of Rochester Medical Center, 601 Elmwood

Ave, Box 672, Rochester, NY 14642, USA.

BACKGROUND: The current diagnostic criteria for pediatric autoimmune

neuropsychiatric disorder associated with group A streptococcal infection

(PANDAS) are pediatric onset, neuropsychiatric disorder

(obsessive-compulsive disorder [OCD]) and/or tic disorder; abrupt onset

and/or episodic course of symptoms; association with group A beta-hemolytic

streptococcal (GABHS) infection; and association with neurological

abnormalities (motoric hyperactivity or adventitious movements, including

choreiform movements or tics). OBJECTIVE: To assess new-onset PANDAS cases

in relation to acute GABHS tonsillopharyngitis. DESIGN: Prospective PANDAS

case identification and follow-up. RESULTS: Over a 3-year period

(1998-2000), we identified 12 school-aged children with new-onset PANDAS.

Each patient had the abrupt appearance of severe OCD behaviors, accompanied

by mild symptoms and signs of acute GABHS tonsillopharyngitis. Throat swabs

tested positive for GABHS by rapid antigen detection and/or were culture

positive. The GABHS serologic tests, when performed (n = 3), showed very

high antideoxyribonuclease antibody titers. Mean age at presentation was 7

years (age range, 5-11 years). In children treated with antibiotics

effective in eradicating GABHS infection at the sentinel episode, OCD

symptoms promptly disappeared. Follow-up throat cultures negative for GABHS

were obtained prospectively after the first PANDAS episode. Recurrence of

OCD symptoms was seen in 6 patients; each recurrence was associated with

evidence of acute GABHS infection and responded to antibiotic therapy,

supporting the premise that these patients were not GABHS carriers. The OCD

behaviors exhibited included hand washing and preoccupation with germs, but

daytime urinary urgency and frequency without dysuria, fever, or

incontinence were the most notable symptoms in our series (58% of patients).

Symptoms disappeared at night, and urinalysis and urine cultures were

negative. CONCLUSION: To our knowledge, this is the first prospective study

to confirm that PANDAS is associated with acute GABHS tonsillopharyngitis

and responds to appropriate antibiotic therapy at the sentinel episode.

Publication Types:

Case Reports

PMID: 11929370 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

Am J Psychiatry. 1998 Feb;155(2):264-71. Related Articles, Links

Erratum in:

Am J Psychiatry 1998 Apr;155(4):578.

Comment in:

Am J Psychiatry. 2002 Feb;159(2):320.

Pediatric autoimmune neuropsychiatric disorders associated with

streptococcal infections: clinical description of the first 50 cases.

Swedo SE, Leonard HL, Garvey M, Mittleman B, AJ, Perlmutter S, Lougee

L, Dow S, Zamkoff J, Dubbert BK.

Section on Behavioral Pediatrics, NIMH, Rockville Pike, Bethesda, MD

20892-1381, USA. swedos@...

OBJECTIVE: The purpose of this study was to describe the clinical

characteristics of a novel group of patients with obsessive-compulsive

disorder (OCD) and tic disorders, designated as pediatric autoimmune

neuropsychiatric disorders associated with streptococcal (group A

beta-hemolytic streptococcal [GABHS]) infections (PANDAS). METHOD: The

authors conducted a systematic clinical evaluation of 50 children who met

all of the following five working diagnostic criteria: presence of OCD

and/or a tic disorder, prepubertal symptom onset, episodic course of symptom

severity, association with GABHS infections, and association with

neurological abnormalities. RESULTS: The children's symptom onset was acute

and dramatic, typically triggered by GABHS infections at a very early age

(mean = 6.3 years, SD = 2.7, for tics; mean = 7.4 years, SD = 2.7, for OCD).

The PANDAS clinical course was characterized by a relapsing-remitting

symptom pattern with significant psychiatric comorbidity accompanying the

exacerbations; emotional lability, separation anxiety, nighttime fears and

bedtime rituals, cognitive deficits, oppositional behaviors, and motoric

hyperactivity were particularly common. Symptom onset was triggered by GABHS

infection for 22 (44%) of the children and by pharyngitis (no throat culture

obtained) for 14 others (28%). Among the 50 children; there were 144

separate episodes of symptom exacerbation; 45 (31%) were associated with

documented GABHS infection, 60 (42%) with symptoms of pharyngitis or upper

respiratory infection (no throat culture obtained), and six (4%) with GABHS

exposure. CONCLUSIONS: The working diagnostic criteria appear to accurately

characterize a homogeneous patient group in which symptom exacerbations are

triggered by GABHS infections. The identification of such a subgroup will

allow for testing of models of pathogenesis, as well as the development of

novel treatment and prevention strategies.

PMID: 9464208 [PubMed - indexed for MEDLINE]

http://ajp.psychiatryonline.org/cgi/content/full/155/2/264?ijkey=f7c9d21d2fa707b\

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