Re: legumes as goitrogens?

[Guest guest]

Corn syrups solids are bad now? Didn't someone say Armour has corn

syrup or some such thing?

(I don't use the coffee creamers anymore, or refiend sugar --

natural sugar and milk in my coffee)~

> Re: legumes as goitrogens?Casein is a

derivative of milk. What is wrong with that, if one is not allergic

to dairy? And even then, most of the time it has to be by the

digestive tract to be sensitive to it. I use coffee creamers, which

all have casein, but, of course, it's not good for us because of the

corn syrups solids and some have soy.

>

[Guest guest]

Corn syrups solids are bad now? Didn't someone say Armour has corn

syrup or some such thing?

(I don't use the coffee creamers anymore, or refiend sugar --

natural sugar and milk in my coffee)~

> Re: legumes as goitrogens?Casein is a

derivative of milk. What is wrong with that, if one is not allergic

to dairy? And even then, most of the time it has to be by the

digestive tract to be sensitive to it. I use coffee creamers, which

all have casein, but, of course, it's not good for us because of the

corn syrups solids and some have soy.

>

[Guest guest]

Or did you use a salad dressing? They are usually notorious for soy!

> Something else occurred to me last night-- the chicken that you

ate,

> was it fresh or frozen? Often, frozen prepared meats can contain

soy

> protein as an additive, and that COULD make you sleepy.

>

> Best--

>

> Courtenay.

>

>

>

>

> >Noone can say what that was for sure, unless you have a glucose

tolerance

> >test to see if maybe you are hypoglycemic, for instance. Then

there are

> >ingredients in canned foods besides the foods themselves. This

is the risk

> >I take every single time I open up a can because there are

myriads of other

> >things in there for a food allergy sufferer. You're going to

have to figure

> >out every little thing in the can or else you'll have to start

cooking the

> >food, since we know what's in there. There are several

possibilities there.

> >

> >

> >

> > legumes as goitrogens?

> >

> >

> >>

> >> i got the results of my food allergies and

> >> intolerances test back, and it's a doozy. i'm

> >> allergic to all dairy and to eggs. as a result, i'm

> >> exploring alternate protein sources. beans of course

> >> are high on the list. they also provide a lot of

> >> other good stuff.

> >>

> >> however, i have seen them on some goitrogen lists (but

> >> not on others). yesterday i had a 3 bean (kidney,

> >> garbanzo and green bean) salad with chicken for lunch.

> >> probably had two cups total of beans, about a third

> >> of each. with an hour, i was so deeply fatigued, i

> >> had to leave work early. could that have been the

> >> goitrogenic effect? i thought it wouldn't be too bad,

> >> given that i used canned beans (cooked to death, in

> >> other words). i was shocked by the strength of the

> >> result.

> >>

> >> has anyone else had a similar experience?

> >>

> >>

> > > rachel.

> >

[Guest guest]

No, they can't walk in my shoes, and I cannot walk in theirs.

I don't know WHAT I would do if I didn't have my funny, easygoing

husband around to help me out and to keep me from shaking certain

people until their fillings in their crooked teeth came unglued.

Isn't that the stupidest thing you've ever heard, though?

" My gosh, if you can't drive a CAR, you must be REALLY

sick. "

Best wishes--

Courtenay.

Grrrrrrr is right! I don't

think people can really understand

unless they can walk in your shoes. And of course they can't

do

that ...

[Guest guest]

No, they can't walk in my shoes, and I cannot walk in theirs.

I don't know WHAT I would do if I didn't have my funny, easygoing

husband around to help me out and to keep me from shaking certain

people until their fillings in their crooked teeth came unglued.

Isn't that the stupidest thing you've ever heard, though?

" My gosh, if you can't drive a CAR, you must be REALLY

sick. "

Best wishes--

Courtenay.

Grrrrrrr is right! I don't

think people can really understand

unless they can walk in your shoes. And of course they can't

do

that ...

[Guest guest]

No, they can't walk in my shoes, and I cannot walk in theirs.

I don't know WHAT I would do if I didn't have my funny, easygoing

husband around to help me out and to keep me from shaking certain

people until their fillings in their crooked teeth came unglued.

Isn't that the stupidest thing you've ever heard, though?

" My gosh, if you can't drive a CAR, you must be REALLY

sick. "

Best wishes--

Courtenay.

Grrrrrrr is right! I don't

think people can really understand

unless they can walk in your shoes. And of course they can't

do

that ...

[Guest guest]

Right, like they won't believe you if you tell them you're really

sick. You have to prove it by not being able to drive a car (or by

coming home and falling asleep every night after work, or not being

able to get out of bed some days.)

> No, they can't walk in my shoes, and I cannot walk in theirs. I

> don't know WHAT I would do if I didn't have my funny, easygoing

> husband around to help me out and to keep me from shaking certain

> people until their fillings in their crooked teeth came unglued.

>

> Isn't that the stupidest thing you've ever heard, though? " My

gosh,

> if you can't drive a CAR, you must be REALLY sick. "

>

> Best wishes--

>

> Courtenay.

>

>

> >Grrrrrrr is right! I don't think people can really understand

> >unless they can walk in your shoes. And of course they can't do

> >that ...

> >

[Guest guest]

Right, like they won't believe you if you tell them you're really

sick. You have to prove it by not being able to drive a car (or by

coming home and falling asleep every night after work, or not being

able to get out of bed some days.)

> No, they can't walk in my shoes, and I cannot walk in theirs. I

> don't know WHAT I would do if I didn't have my funny, easygoing

> husband around to help me out and to keep me from shaking certain

> people until their fillings in their crooked teeth came unglued.

>

> Isn't that the stupidest thing you've ever heard, though? " My

gosh,

> if you can't drive a CAR, you must be REALLY sick. "

>

> Best wishes--

>

> Courtenay.

>

>

> >Grrrrrrr is right! I don't think people can really understand

> >unless they can walk in your shoes. And of course they can't do

> >that ...

> >

[Guest guest]

Right, like they won't believe you if you tell them you're really

sick. You have to prove it by not being able to drive a car (or by

coming home and falling asleep every night after work, or not being

able to get out of bed some days.)

> No, they can't walk in my shoes, and I cannot walk in theirs. I

> don't know WHAT I would do if I didn't have my funny, easygoing

> husband around to help me out and to keep me from shaking certain

> people until their fillings in their crooked teeth came unglued.

>

> Isn't that the stupidest thing you've ever heard, though? " My

gosh,

> if you can't drive a CAR, you must be REALLY sick. "

>

> Best wishes--

>

> Courtenay.

>

>

> >Grrrrrrr is right! I don't think people can really understand

> >unless they can walk in your shoes. And of course they can't do

> >that ...

> >

[Guest guest]

That's not so bad. I've been making my own vinaigrettes for

the last couple of years. My favorite cookbook is the Joy of

Cooking, and it has loads of salad dressing recipes. Lately,

I've been improvising with lemon zest, garlic, low salt, low sugar

rice wine vinegar, and a little bit of good olive oil. Dressings

work best if you let the flavors blend for several hours.

Best--

Courtenay.

i made that myself, with olive oil. no soy. with my

dairy allergy now i think just about all prepared

dressings are off limits for me!

rachel.

[Guest guest]

Someone on another site is saying that the corn syrup is a vexor of the

thyroid hormones. I really need to look into that more. They say it has

something to do with it's processing by some method, I think? It's in so

many things, that life will be no fun at all, lol, namely the coffee creamer

and pecan pie, and the list goes on. Gosh, is there ANYthing that we can

eat that actually tastes good. A lot of the suggestions I've heard over

this last yr to replace such things I simply can't stomach at all! I know,

if you haven't tried something don't knock it, but there are many things

that I HAVE tried, and I don't see how anyone eats a lot of this stuff, some

of it is horrible! Milk tastes funny in coffee to me now, though it didn't

yrs ago, so I guess it's a matter of what you've gotten your taste buds used

to. I don't live to eat, I eat to live, but eating was always an ejoyable

experience in life, and I would like for it to remain so. I've gotten the

little and often meals down for the past many yrs, so I'm used to that

because I had to get used to it. Now this. If I cut out every single thing

that everyone says isn't good for us, might as well stop eating, and that

ain't gonna happen. Furthermore, I could never live as a total vegetarian,

it's like eating grass all the time to me, but I do have a varied diet there

and will continue to eat my red meat, chicken, fish, green and yellow

veggies, and some things are just gonna have to have corn syrup in them, as

I have neither the time or inclination to cook from scratch ALL the time. I

work a 40 hr week, and that just won't work, I just don't have the energy

for all that crap! When having a good diet becomes an exercise in further

high stress, then it's time to quit.

Re: legumes as goitrogens?

>

>

> Corn syrups solids are bad now? Didn't someone say Armour has corn

> syrup or some such thing?

>

> (I don't use the coffee creamers anymore, or refiend sugar --

> natural sugar and milk in my coffee)~

[Guest guest]

If you get some time, go and borrow some cookbooks from your

local library. That's my favorite stomping ground for new recipe

books-- I always hit the new books section of the library first.

Best wishes--

Courtenay.

ooo thanks for the tip. i

definintely need to invest

in some cookbooks now, and then experiment with

modifying recipes for my allergies. thanks!

rachel.

[Guest guest]

I really feel like the only foods I need to utterly avoid are soy and millet. I am well-medicated, and I think that makes a difference.

I really don't like very many foods to start out with. I have learned to turn a deaf ear to those who would tell me what I can and cannot eat.

Regardless of what is on the goiterogen list or the hypoglycemic list, the ultimate answer lies in our own experience. If you suspect that peaches make you feel like recycled dog food, then do the peach challenge. Give them up for a month, then add them back in and note any difference in how you feel. There may be some foods you need to give-up completely and others that perhaps you can eat in moderation once a month. wrote:

Someone on another site is saying that the corn syrup is a vexor of thethyroid hormones. I really need to look into that more. They say it hassomething to do with it's processing by some method, I think? It's in somany things, that life will be no fun at all, lol, namely the coffee creamerand pecan pie, and the list goes on. Gosh, is there ANYthing that we caneat that actually tastes good. A lot of the suggestions I've heard overthis last yr to replace such things I simply can't stomach at all! I know,if you haven't tried something don't knock it, but there are many thingsthat I HAVE tried, and I don't see how anyone eats a lot of this stuff, someof it is horrible! Milk tastes funny in coffee to me now, though it didn'tyrs ago, so I guess it's a matter of what you've gotten your taste

buds usedto. I don't live to eat, I eat to live, but eating was always an ejoyableexperience in life, and I would like for it to remain so. I've gotten thelittle and often meals down for the past many yrs, so I'm used to thatbecause I had to get used to it. Now this. If I cut out every single thingthat everyone says isn't good for us, might as well stop eating, and thatain't gonna happen. Furthermore, I could never live as a total vegetarian,it's like eating grass all the time to me, but I do have a varied diet thereand will continue to eat my red meat, chicken, fish, green and yellowveggies, and some things are just gonna have to have corn syrup in them, asI have neither the time or inclination to cook from scratch ALL the time. Iwork a 40 hr week, and that just won't work, I just don't have the energyfor all that crap! When having a good diet becomes an exercise in furtherhigh stress,

then it's time to quit. Re: legumes as goitrogens?>>> Corn syrups solids are bad now? Didn't someone say Armour has corn> syrup or some such thing?>> (I don't use the coffee creamers anymore, or refiend sugar -- > natural sugar and milk in my coffee)~__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

I really feel like the only foods I need to utterly avoid are soy and millet. I am well-medicated, and I think that makes a difference.

I really don't like very many foods to start out with. I have learned to turn a deaf ear to those who would tell me what I can and cannot eat.

Regardless of what is on the goiterogen list or the hypoglycemic list, the ultimate answer lies in our own experience. If you suspect that peaches make you feel like recycled dog food, then do the peach challenge. Give them up for a month, then add them back in and note any difference in how you feel. There may be some foods you need to give-up completely and others that perhaps you can eat in moderation once a month. wrote:

Someone on another site is saying that the corn syrup is a vexor of thethyroid hormones. I really need to look into that more. They say it hassomething to do with it's processing by some method, I think? It's in somany things, that life will be no fun at all, lol, namely the coffee creamerand pecan pie, and the list goes on. Gosh, is there ANYthing that we caneat that actually tastes good. A lot of the suggestions I've heard overthis last yr to replace such things I simply can't stomach at all! I know,if you haven't tried something don't knock it, but there are many thingsthat I HAVE tried, and I don't see how anyone eats a lot of this stuff, someof it is horrible! Milk tastes funny in coffee to me now, though it didn'tyrs ago, so I guess it's a matter of what you've gotten your taste

buds usedto. I don't live to eat, I eat to live, but eating was always an ejoyableexperience in life, and I would like for it to remain so. I've gotten thelittle and often meals down for the past many yrs, so I'm used to thatbecause I had to get used to it. Now this. If I cut out every single thingthat everyone says isn't good for us, might as well stop eating, and thatain't gonna happen. Furthermore, I could never live as a total vegetarian,it's like eating grass all the time to me, but I do have a varied diet thereand will continue to eat my red meat, chicken, fish, green and yellowveggies, and some things are just gonna have to have corn syrup in them, asI have neither the time or inclination to cook from scratch ALL the time. Iwork a 40 hr week, and that just won't work, I just don't have the energyfor all that crap! When having a good diet becomes an exercise in furtherhigh stress,

then it's time to quit. Re: legumes as goitrogens?>>> Corn syrups solids are bad now? Didn't someone say Armour has corn> syrup or some such thing?>> (I don't use the coffee creamers anymore, or refiend sugar -- > natural sugar and milk in my coffee)~__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

I think I may be allergic to dairy, or wheat, or both. I am

trying to stay away from both until I figure out what's up. Dr.

may also be doing food allergy testing down the road.

Courtenay.

I really feel like the only foods I need to utterly

avoid are soy and millet. I am well-medicated, and I think that

makes a difference.

I really don't like very many foods to start out

with. I have learned to turn a deaf ear to those who would tell

me what I can and cannot eat.

Regardless of what is on the goiterogen list or the

hypoglycemic list, the ultimate answer lies in our own experience. If

you suspect that peaches make you feel like recycled dog

food, then do the peach challenge. Give them up for a month, then add

them back in and note any difference in how you feel. There may

be some foods you need to give-up completely and others that perhaps

you can eat in moderation once a month.

[Guest guest]

I think I may be allergic to dairy, or wheat, or both. I am

trying to stay away from both until I figure out what's up. Dr.

may also be doing food allergy testing down the road.

Courtenay.

I really feel like the only foods I need to utterly

avoid are soy and millet. I am well-medicated, and I think that

makes a difference.

I really don't like very many foods to start out

with. I have learned to turn a deaf ear to those who would tell

me what I can and cannot eat.

Regardless of what is on the goiterogen list or the

hypoglycemic list, the ultimate answer lies in our own experience. If

you suspect that peaches make you feel like recycled dog

food, then do the peach challenge. Give them up for a month, then add

them back in and note any difference in how you feel. There may

be some foods you need to give-up completely and others that perhaps

you can eat in moderation once a month.

[Guest guest]

The Food Network website is a pretty great place for

recipes.

Best--

Courtenay.

You can also find recipes online. Just do a Google

search.