RE: question about language

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Thanks Jeri. Dr. G's program has aided my daughter tremendously. She's made

great strides as she had very little language prior to the program other than

saying her abc's and numbers forwards and backwards. I'll implement the idea

about the toys immediately and also check into the teach me language program.

Thanks again for the input. Shona

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Shona,

Don't forget that what you are talking about (conversational

language, reading social cues) is at the top of the developmental

ladder, so to speak, and is the most difficult. It makes perfect

sense to me that she is progressing in the way that she is. It

sounds to me like you already are doing everything to facilitate

learning language pragmatics - she has plenty of opportunities to

mimic language around her. I bet it will come with time as she

builds on her language skills.

BTW, thanks for the prayers! We say Dr. G last Tuesday and I'm very

excited. We are going to start with Valtrex. I went out and filled

the Rx and bought a pill cutter today. Any special advice in cutting

the pill?

timary

> Thanks Jeri. Dr. G's program has aided my daughter tremendously.

She's made great strides as she had very little language prior to the

program other than saying her abc's and numbers forwards and

backwards. I'll implement the idea about the toys immediately and

also check into the teach me language program. Thanks again for the

input. Shona

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What dosage did he start you on? With Chaia, he started her at 3/4 pill and

with Skyler it was 1/2 pill. With Chaia's, I cut the pill in half and the half

of a pill in half again. I didn't worry if I was a little bit off because it'll

even out in the long run. Don't forget to wash off the blue dye. My brother in

law is taking Valtrex for something and he said that the dye made him extremely

jumpy. Thanks for the input on language. Sometimes I just worry that I'm not

doing enough to help the kids, but then again, I don't know what else to do.

Take care and good luck with the Valtrex. Shona

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Hi Shona - he is to take 1/2 pill (500 mg pill) three times a day for

the first week and then go to 3/4 pill three times a day. Which is

another question - do you give it breakfast, lunch and dinner? Or do

you try to do it closer to eight hours apart?

thanks for the advice on the blue dye.

timary

> What dosage did he start you on? With Chaia, he started her at 3/4

pill and with Skyler it was 1/2 pill. With Chaia's, I cut the pill

in half and the half of a pill in half again. I didn't worry if I

was a little bit off because it'll even out in the long run. Don't

forget to wash off the blue dye. My brother in law is taking Valtrex

for something and he said that the dye made him extremely jumpy.

Thanks for the input on language. Sometimes I just worry that I'm

not doing enough to help the kids, but then again, I don't know what

else to do. Take care and good luck with the Valtrex. Shona

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the book was written by Freeman Ph.D. and Lorelei Dake B.A., I believe I

ordered it from and Noble. There is a companion book to it as well with

worksheets, etc. I taught my daughter to read by sight. She showed a great

interest in words and while doing therapy with her one day I noticed she was

reading and took her cue that it was something she was ready to do, she was only

4 at the time. I have found that teach supply stores are a great resource, you

can contact many of them on line and order directly or order a catalog.

Lakeshore is one of the bigger ones. I started with the sight words #1 box,

definitely stick with the ones with the real pictures and just have fun looking

through them and getting to know the cards, then take about 10 of the word/pics

your child likes the best and cut the card in half, separating the word from the

pic and then let you child play match and at a higher level you can just put out

the word and ask you child to give you the word,

make it fun and rewarding by giving high fives and even edible treats for.

There are a hundred different ideas to make it fun and challenging. I have also

found books at Walmart and also teacher supply stores that are great beginning

readers. The ones at Walmart are labeled reading level 1 and so on, there are

even some with flash cards of their own. and Noble has quite a large

selection as well. If your child like are particular publishers books more than

another you can order directly from the publisher, usually there is a list of

titles in the back of the book. Good Luck........JL

Wayne & Gilly Voss <gilly@...> wrote:

Jeri

how would one get a copy of the book you are talking abou 'Teach me

language't. Is it available by order online?

Also does anyone know of a good CD Rom that teaches Autistic children how to

read. My boy is fascinated by numbers and letters and can spell a number of

words but this has not developed into reading as yet. He could spell

Helicopter at 2.5. We thought he would start reading early but it has all

slowed down in the last few months. He loves the computer...don't they

all...I want to stimulate his interest again through a medium that he loves.

He has also gone off having stories read to him...I suspect this is due to

the fact that they don't make much sense to him. He loves the Tank

Engine We have read those books over and over but it is clear that Reuben

understands the powerpoles, trees, tracks and trains but not the story. He

sometimes reads the book outloud in his own 'speak' and it is all about

these items.

GILLY

Re: question about language

There is a program out there that can be instrumental in guiding your

daughter to conversational language. It is called Teach me Language.

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I almost forgot, the cd rom programs from Reader Rabbit are great and helped my

daughter a lot we've also used the Disney and Pooh, if you can rent from your

local library or video store and see which one your child will respond to. jl

Wayne & Gilly Voss <gilly@...> wrote:

Jeri

how would one get a copy of the book you are talking abou 'Teach me

language't. Is it available by order online?

Also does anyone know of a good CD Rom that teaches Autistic children how to

read.

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We did breakfast, lunch, and dinner. It just seemed to work out better for us.

Shona

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Thanks Jeri i'll have another look at those Reader Rabbit ones in a store

called Whitcoulls. I was looking at them the other day and thought they

looked good but wanted to hear a recommendation first. We will take a trip

to the library too.

Yes we have done some of that visual and word matching, Reuben was very good

at it for his age but what concerns me is that he has completely lost

interest in it.

Do you think it is one of those things that are of great interest for a

while, then fade out, then come back in. He seems to do that with food items

too.

What I might do is get the visuals we use for various toys and make up some

separate words to go with the pictures. Currently the words are printed on

the pictures so I will have to cover the word.

RE: question about language

I almost forgot, the cd rom programs from Reader Rabbit are great and

helped my daughter a lot we've also used the Disney and Pooh, if you can

rent from your local library or video store and see which one your child

will respond to. jl

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Just mix things up with the sight words. You can also do object to word drills,

where you have a block and match it to the word card block. anything that is

fun for the child. We bought little things that would fit on a card, small

toys, buckets of zoo animals, small play food, get creative.... and then we

would have the card with the word on it and she would match the object to the

word she really loved that. Like I said before we also did picture to word

matching and word to word matching and receptive and then expressive drills for

the sight words. Receptive meaning if I said " touch cat " , she would touch the

card that said cat. Expressive drills are where the answer would be given

orally. I also went around the house and with sticky tape I put word cards

(with the names of the objects) on just about everything, the door, the tv, the

microwave and that prompted language as well. whatever you do start out simple

and expand as your child is able, make sure it is fun and

rewarding, don't make it seem like work. Your child will let you know when he

is ready for the next step. a great book for teaching your child many things is

Behavioral Interventions for Young Children with Autism. It lays everything out

for you, shows you step by step how to teach all kinds of skills. Very easy to

understand and follow. and Noble almost always has a copy on hand, if

not they will order one for you. It is a must have, even if your child is not

autistic, it is a fantastic teaching manual for any kid. JL

Wayne & Gilly Voss <gilly@...> wrote:Thanks Jeri i'll have another look

at those Reader Rabbit ones in a store

called Whitcoulls. I was looking at them the other day and thought they

looked good but wanted to hear a recommendation first. We will take a trip

to the library too.

Yes we have done some of that visual and word matching, Reuben was very good

at it for his age but what concerns me is that he has completely lost

interest in it.

Do you think it is one of those things that are of great interest for a

while, then fade out, then come back in. He seems to do that with food items

too.

What I might do is get the visuals we use for various toys and make up some

separate words to go with the pictures. Currently the words are printed on

the pictures so I will have to cover the word.

[Guest guest]

We used Teach Me Language quite a bit for ideas as well but shaped the ideas

into games and activities that were more fun and flexible than the ones listed

in the book.

One game I used quite a bit when my son was at the stage it sounds like your

daughter is in was " the reporter game " . It's easier to do this if the child

can read but not impossible for a non-reader. Having worked as a reporter

many moons ago, I took the questions I was taught to always cover in a story --

who, what, where, when, why, how -- and list these. We'd take turns playing

the reporter or interviewee on various topics of interest, and I'd write the

answers. At the time, he was very simplistic in his answers, so I'd expand on

what he'd say and repeat it back as a full sentence.

He was also really into Sesame Street back then so we played a made-up game

called " Guy Smiley's Tell Me About " setting up various Sesame Street characters

to play in the game show. I made up cards with various topics and suggested

starting points.

Another thing that I think really helped at that point was providing lots and

lots of input -- I constantly talked, pointed out things, commented,

questioned, etc. We also made audio and video tapes of various friends sharing

their

thoughts and interests.

Gaylen

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since he is only 2, it might just turn out to be a speech/language delay. a lot of times kids catch up before they turn 4. however, please do not let it go. if he is indeed on the autism spectrum then you should start intervention as soon as possible. my son was the same way when he was 2.5, but we didn't realized that he was autistic until he was almost 3.5. I we had started earlier on his speech, he probably would have been further along than he is now at age 5.

question about language

our son silas says about 6-8 words, he is 2 years old, and we is receiving speech and ot. my question is i know he can say other thins i have heard him say it....example. ....1.when i hollar at the dog, he repeats me and says the dogs name. but he will not spontaneusly say it.2. same thing happens when i hollar for the kids or tristen. he repeats it.3.his uncles were watching football in the living room and they hollard touch down and he yelled it back.4. he will say i love you when you sing it to him, but not on his own.now none of these words are clear but you can make it out.the word he does say are a bunch of noises and squeals like a baby, he will say down, eat, sssssss for horse, maaaaaa for me and da for tristen, and for a while he was calling everyone maaaa and now he is calling everyone daaaaa, and when he does speak he either screams it at the top of his lungs or he whispers it. i was just wondering if

anyone could offer any advise.one docter said he has early signs of aspergers, and one docter said he had given some thought to williwams syndrome, but he did not fit enough clinical criteria to test fot it at this time.thank so muchDana__________________________________________________

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Dana my son Dakota was like that at 2 years old. I finally was able to enroll him in the birth to three program. By 3 he was talking sentences all on his own. One thing I did with dakota was signing! And now i have to prompt him to always use his words as his speech is regressing. You can try to get him to say words and have him repeat them. But he may not say them spontanously like you want him to. It will come in time. But learning to sign a few words has helped Dakota tremendously. Once he started using his words we stopped signing.

Stacie

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Hello Dana,

Is there a dev. ped. in your area? If so, you would probably want to get an appt. now as it can take months to get in to see them. Also, your local county early intervention can come in and evaluate him at no cost to you and provide services if he qualifies. Also, you may want to see if there is a local chapter of the Autism Society of America and they can point you towards resources for your child.

Michele

question about language

our son silas says about 6-8 words, he is 2 years old, and we is receiving speech and ot. my question is i know he can say other thins i have heard him say it....example.....1.when i hollar at the dog, he repeats me and says the dogs name. but he will not spontaneusly say it.2. same thing happens when i hollar for the kids or tristen. he repeats it.3.his uncles were watching football in the living room and they hollard touch down and he yelled it back.4. he will say i love you when you sing it to him, but not on his own.now none of these words are clear but you can make it out.the word he does say are a bunch of noises and squeals like a baby, he will say down, eat, sssssss for horse, maaaaaa for me and da for tristen, and for a while he was calling everyone maaaa and now he is calling everyone daaaaa, and when he does speak he either screams it at the top of his lungs or he whispers it. i was just wondering if anyone could offer any advise.one docter said he has early signs of aspergers, and one docter said he had given some thought to williwams syndrome, but he did not fit enough clinical criteria to test fot it at this time.thank so muchDana

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Michele,

Yes we take him to Geiseinger in Danville, he has been seen by the ped. developmental docter twice and the neurologist once and he goes back to the neurologist on jan 30th. he is alreadt receiving early intervention services. speech and OT. I will def check out the Autism Society of America.....thanks for writing....

Dana>> Hello Dana,> Is there a dev. ped. in your area? If so, you would probably want to get an appt. now as it can take months to get in to see them. Also, your local county early intervention can come in and evaluate him at no cost to you and provide services if he qualifies. Also, you may want to see if there is a local chapter of the Autism Society of America and they can point you towards resources for your child. > > Michele> question about language> > > our son silas says about 6-8 words, he is 2 years old, and we is > receiving speech and ot. my question is i know he can say other thins > i have heard him say it....example.....> 1.when i hollar at the dog, he repeats me and says the dogs name. but > he will not spontaneusly say it.> 2. same thing happens when i hollar for the kids or tristen. he > repeats it.> 3.his uncles were watching football in the living room and they > hollard touch down and he yelled it back.> 4. he will say i love you when you sing it to him, but not on his own.> now none of these words are clear but you can make it out.> the word he does say are a bunch of noises and squeals like a baby, > he will say down, eat, sssssss for horse, maaaaaa for me and da for > tristen, and for a while he was calling everyone maaaa and now he is > calling everyone daaaaa, and when he does speak he either screams it > at the top of his lungs or he whispers it. i was just wondering if > anyone could offer any advise.> one docter said he has early signs of aspergers, and one docter said > he had given some thought to williwams syndrome, but he did not fit > enough clinical criteria to test fot it at this time.> thank so much> Dana>

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Stacie,

He gets early intervention services....speech and OT, he has had them for almost a year now. not alot of progress in the speech, but good progress in OT.We have tried signing but it is not going well at all, he confuses the signs and he uses the 3 he knows at the same time. i am going to have a talk with his therapist......

Dana>> Dana my son Dakota was like that at 2 years old. I finally was able to > enroll him in the birth to three program. By 3 he was talking sentences all on his > own. One thing I did with dakota was signing! And now i have to prompt him > to always use his words as his speech is regressing. You can try to get him to > say words and have him repeat them. But he may not say them spontanously like > you want him to. It will come in time. But learning to sign a few words has > helped Dakota tremendously. Once he started using his words we stopped > signing. > > Stacie>

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Hi Dana,

>>Stacie,

He gets early intervention services....speech and OT, he has had them for

almost a year now. not alot of progress in the speech, but good progress in

OT.We have tried signing but it is not going well at all, he confuses the

signs and he uses the 3 he knows at the same time. i am going to have a talk

with his therapist......<<

I suggest you use PECS (picture exchange communication system). This was

especially developed for ASD. Things like Makaton and ASL can be as

confusing for someone with a communication disorder (which ASD is) as spoken

language.

in England

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I forgot all about the PECS Cards. We did use those too with Dakota. But I don't think we used them for long. I wonder if we still have them. I will have to look in his therapy box.

Stacie

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Hi Dana,

>>Stacie,

He gets early intervention services....speech and OT, he has had them for

almost a year now. not alot of progress in the speech, but good progress in

OT.We have tried signing but it is not going well at all, he confuses the

signs and he uses the 3 he knows at the same time. i am going to have a talk

with his therapist......<<

I suggest you use PECS (picture exchange communication system). This was

especially developed for ASD. Things like Makaton and ASL can be as

confusing for someone with a communication disorder (which ASD is) as spoken

language.

in England

[Guest guest]

We use those as well - they were instrumental in Hope beginning to use speech - she could repeat over 500 words, but never used them. She would point and say 1-2 words at a time and then scream because we couldn't understand her.... She is now talking up a storm!!Stacie <scrapitall54201@...> wrote: I forgot all about the PECS Cards. We did use those too with Dakota. But I don't think we used them for long. I wonder if we still have them. I will have to look in his therapy box. Stacie -- Re: Re: question about language Hi Dana, >>Stacie,

He gets early intervention services....speech and OT, he has had them for almost a year now. not alot of progress in the speech, but good progress in OT.We have tried signing but it is not going well at all, he confuses the signs and he uses the 3 he knows at the same time. i am going to have a talk with his therapist......<< I suggest you use PECS (picture exchange communication system). This was especially developed for ASD. Things like Makaton and ASL can be as confusing for someone with a communication disorder (which ASD is) as spoken language. in England