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Sorry you aren't getting great results, but I do know that the over the shoulder DOES have better results when the curve is high up. My son is in his first cast and has an over the shoulder Mehta cast. Washing hair is hard, but since it is short, we just wash it with him on towel, and with a washcloth. I know a lot of parent's just place the child on a towel near the sink and wash their hair spa style, I may have to try that soon since Hayden's hair is getting longer. My son is very small for his age and gains very very slowly. Our Ped has told us all along to give him pediasure everyday. It has the calories, protein and nutrients he isn't getting from regular food. I really can't tell you whether or not to stick with your doctor. I am not sure what Hospital you go to, but I think there are other parents on here that live in your part of the country that may be able to tell you where they go. I live

in TX so we go to ish Rite. I hope this helps a little. Good luck. I hope next time you get great LOW numbers.. Joanmom to Hayden 2 1/233 degrees1st cast down from 62 degrees Treated at ish Rite Hospital Dallas, TX

To: infantile_scoliosis Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 8:53:34 PMSubject: Over the shoulder cast - UGH!!

Hi everyone - it has been quite a while since I have posted....although I do get in my email as often as I can and read messages and updates.

Anyway, I need encouragement, hope, ideas....all of the above and more. We just got back from Bryce getting his 5th cast put on and he is not correcting as we all had hoped. I really went into the process with an open-mind... .or at least I thought I did.....but I really thought he would be further along than he is...especially since we had started casting so early on (13 months). The doctor said one of Bryce's curves is high up on his back so he thinks that may be hindering his progress.... .so Bryce came home with an over-the-shoulder cast. UGH!!!! The doctor we go to hasn't done many of these (at least according to one of the techs that helps with the casting) so we are all just rolling with it right now to see if it does the trick. So...I have a few questions.

Bathing - How do you wash hair with an over-the-shoulder cast? We had such a good routine down pat and now I need to learn to re-do everyday things. Keep in mind, Bryce's shoulder straps seem to be really high...the tops touch the bottom of his ears.

Has anyone had success starting in an under-the-arm cast and then switching to an over-the-shoulder and seeing an improvement in correction?

Do you think we should stick with our doc (who we love) or go to a doc more experienced in the over-the-shoulder casts?

Bryce is not gaining weight - he has been about the same weight for a long time (he is 22 months and weighs 25 lbs). Is anyone supplementing milk with anything to help with growth....like a scoop of formula or instant breakfast mix??? Take care,Jen

Pickerington, OhioMommy to Bryce, 22 monthsIn cast # 5 - casting at Rochester

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Sorry you aren't getting great results, but I do know that the over the shoulder DOES have better results when the curve is high up. My son is in his first cast and has an over the shoulder Mehta cast. Washing hair is hard, but since it is short, we just wash it with him on towel, and with a washcloth. I know a lot of parent's just place the child on a towel near the sink and wash their hair spa style, I may have to try that soon since Hayden's hair is getting longer. My son is very small for his age and gains very very slowly. Our Ped has told us all along to give him pediasure everyday. It has the calories, protein and nutrients he isn't getting from regular food. I really can't tell you whether or not to stick with your doctor. I am not sure what Hospital you go to, but I think there are other parents on here that live in your part of the country that may be able to tell you where they go. I live

in TX so we go to ish Rite. I hope this helps a little. Good luck. I hope next time you get great LOW numbers.. Joanmom to Hayden 2 1/233 degrees1st cast down from 62 degrees Treated at ish Rite Hospital Dallas, TX

To: infantile_scoliosis Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 8:53:34 PMSubject: Over the shoulder cast - UGH!!

Hi everyone - it has been quite a while since I have posted....although I do get in my email as often as I can and read messages and updates.

Anyway, I need encouragement, hope, ideas....all of the above and more. We just got back from Bryce getting his 5th cast put on and he is not correcting as we all had hoped. I really went into the process with an open-mind... .or at least I thought I did.....but I really thought he would be further along than he is...especially since we had started casting so early on (13 months). The doctor said one of Bryce's curves is high up on his back so he thinks that may be hindering his progress.... .so Bryce came home with an over-the-shoulder cast. UGH!!!! The doctor we go to hasn't done many of these (at least according to one of the techs that helps with the casting) so we are all just rolling with it right now to see if it does the trick. So...I have a few questions.

Bathing - How do you wash hair with an over-the-shoulder cast? We had such a good routine down pat and now I need to learn to re-do everyday things. Keep in mind, Bryce's shoulder straps seem to be really high...the tops touch the bottom of his ears.

Has anyone had success starting in an under-the-arm cast and then switching to an over-the-shoulder and seeing an improvement in correction?

Do you think we should stick with our doc (who we love) or go to a doc more experienced in the over-the-shoulder casts?

Bryce is not gaining weight - he has been about the same weight for a long time (he is 22 months and weighs 25 lbs). Is anyone supplementing milk with anything to help with growth....like a scoop of formula or instant breakfast mix??? Take care,Jen

Pickerington, OhioMommy to Bryce, 22 monthsIn cast # 5 - casting at Rochester

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Sorry you aren't getting great results, but I do know that the over the shoulder DOES have better results when the curve is high up. My son is in his first cast and has an over the shoulder Mehta cast. Washing hair is hard, but since it is short, we just wash it with him on towel, and with a washcloth. I know a lot of parent's just place the child on a towel near the sink and wash their hair spa style, I may have to try that soon since Hayden's hair is getting longer. My son is very small for his age and gains very very slowly. Our Ped has told us all along to give him pediasure everyday. It has the calories, protein and nutrients he isn't getting from regular food. I really can't tell you whether or not to stick with your doctor. I am not sure what Hospital you go to, but I think there are other parents on here that live in your part of the country that may be able to tell you where they go. I live

in TX so we go to ish Rite. I hope this helps a little. Good luck. I hope next time you get great LOW numbers.. Joanmom to Hayden 2 1/233 degrees1st cast down from 62 degrees Treated at ish Rite Hospital Dallas, TX

To: infantile_scoliosis Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 8:53:34 PMSubject: Over the shoulder cast - UGH!!

Hi everyone - it has been quite a while since I have posted....although I do get in my email as often as I can and read messages and updates.

Anyway, I need encouragement, hope, ideas....all of the above and more. We just got back from Bryce getting his 5th cast put on and he is not correcting as we all had hoped. I really went into the process with an open-mind... .or at least I thought I did.....but I really thought he would be further along than he is...especially since we had started casting so early on (13 months). The doctor said one of Bryce's curves is high up on his back so he thinks that may be hindering his progress.... .so Bryce came home with an over-the-shoulder cast. UGH!!!! The doctor we go to hasn't done many of these (at least according to one of the techs that helps with the casting) so we are all just rolling with it right now to see if it does the trick. So...I have a few questions.

Bathing - How do you wash hair with an over-the-shoulder cast? We had such a good routine down pat and now I need to learn to re-do everyday things. Keep in mind, Bryce's shoulder straps seem to be really high...the tops touch the bottom of his ears.

Has anyone had success starting in an under-the-arm cast and then switching to an over-the-shoulder and seeing an improvement in correction?

Do you think we should stick with our doc (who we love) or go to a doc more experienced in the over-the-shoulder casts?

Bryce is not gaining weight - he has been about the same weight for a long time (he is 22 months and weighs 25 lbs). Is anyone supplementing milk with anything to help with growth....like a scoop of formula or instant breakfast mix??? Take care,Jen

Pickerington, OhioMommy to Bryce, 22 monthsIn cast # 5 - casting at Rochester

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Hi Jen,

We've only done over the shoulder casts. It's my understanding that Mehta prefers over the shoulder for certain types of curves, I think above T-8 or T-9? Hope I got that right...

Do you know your numbers in the last few casts? If Bryce is not getting worse, then the casts are at least keeping the curve from progressing- in progressive children, that is still a "win", because without the cast...you get the picture. Still, I would be frustrated with no correction.

We just bathe with Bex lying on the kitchen counter, "spa style"...with a plastic bib and a towel over his front, under his back, and a rolled up towel under his neck. We use a cup to rinse, and towel dry before sitting him up.

Bex is really skinny, too, but he eats a lot (small amounts all day) and is growing. He is probably not over 25 pounds out of cast. One of the nurses said to us that "All of the Scoli kids are skinny". I don't think that's true, but I know Bex is skinny, but healthy. Do you do dairy? Use full fat!

Chin up, hang in there! Heidi, Bexon's Mama, (2 years old, in 4th cast from Salt Lake City Shriners, currently down from 61 degrees to 21)

To: infantile_scoliosis Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 6:53:34 PMSubject: Over the shoulder cast - UGH!!

Hi everyone - it has been quite a while since I have posted....although I do get in my email as often as I can and read messages and updates.

Anyway, I need encouragement, hope, ideas....all of the above and more. We just got back from Bryce getting his 5th cast put on and he is not correcting as we all had hoped. I really went into the process with an open-mind... .or at least I thought I did.....but I really thought he would be further along than he is...especially since we had started casting so early on (13 months). The doctor said one of Bryce's curves is high up on his back so he thinks that may be hindering his progress.... .so Bryce came home with an over-the-shoulder cast. UGH!!!! The doctor we go to hasn't done many of these (at least according to one of the techs that helps with the casting) so we are all just rolling with it right now to see if it does the trick. So...I have a few questions.

Bathing - How do you wash hair with an over-the-shoulder cast? We had such a good routine down pat and now I need to learn to re-do everyday things. Keep in mind, Bryce's shoulder straps seem to be really high...the tops touch the bottom of his ears.

Has anyone had success starting in an under-the-arm cast and then switching to an over-the-shoulder and seeing an improvement in correction?

Do you think we should stick with our doc (who we love) or go to a doc more experienced in the over-the-shoulder casts?

Bryce is not gaining weight - he has been about the same weight for a long time (he is 22 months and weighs 25 lbs). Is anyone supplementing milk with anything to help with growth....like a scoop of formula or instant breakfast mix??? Take care,Jen

Pickerington, OhioMommy to Bryce, 22 monthsIn cast # 5 - casting at Rochester

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Hi Jen,

We've only done over the shoulder casts. It's my understanding that Mehta prefers over the shoulder for certain types of curves, I think above T-8 or T-9? Hope I got that right...

Do you know your numbers in the last few casts? If Bryce is not getting worse, then the casts are at least keeping the curve from progressing- in progressive children, that is still a "win", because without the cast...you get the picture. Still, I would be frustrated with no correction.

We just bathe with Bex lying on the kitchen counter, "spa style"...with a plastic bib and a towel over his front, under his back, and a rolled up towel under his neck. We use a cup to rinse, and towel dry before sitting him up.

Bex is really skinny, too, but he eats a lot (small amounts all day) and is growing. He is probably not over 25 pounds out of cast. One of the nurses said to us that "All of the Scoli kids are skinny". I don't think that's true, but I know Bex is skinny, but healthy. Do you do dairy? Use full fat!

Chin up, hang in there! Heidi, Bexon's Mama, (2 years old, in 4th cast from Salt Lake City Shriners, currently down from 61 degrees to 21)

To: infantile_scoliosis Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 6:53:34 PMSubject: Over the shoulder cast - UGH!!

Hi everyone - it has been quite a while since I have posted....although I do get in my email as often as I can and read messages and updates.

Anyway, I need encouragement, hope, ideas....all of the above and more. We just got back from Bryce getting his 5th cast put on and he is not correcting as we all had hoped. I really went into the process with an open-mind... .or at least I thought I did.....but I really thought he would be further along than he is...especially since we had started casting so early on (13 months). The doctor said one of Bryce's curves is high up on his back so he thinks that may be hindering his progress.... .so Bryce came home with an over-the-shoulder cast. UGH!!!! The doctor we go to hasn't done many of these (at least according to one of the techs that helps with the casting) so we are all just rolling with it right now to see if it does the trick. So...I have a few questions.

Bathing - How do you wash hair with an over-the-shoulder cast? We had such a good routine down pat and now I need to learn to re-do everyday things. Keep in mind, Bryce's shoulder straps seem to be really high...the tops touch the bottom of his ears.

Has anyone had success starting in an under-the-arm cast and then switching to an over-the-shoulder and seeing an improvement in correction?

Do you think we should stick with our doc (who we love) or go to a doc more experienced in the over-the-shoulder casts?

Bryce is not gaining weight - he has been about the same weight for a long time (he is 22 months and weighs 25 lbs). Is anyone supplementing milk with anything to help with growth....like a scoop of formula or instant breakfast mix??? Take care,Jen

Pickerington, OhioMommy to Bryce, 22 monthsIn cast # 5 - casting at Rochester

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Hi Jen,

We've only done over the shoulder casts. It's my understanding that Mehta prefers over the shoulder for certain types of curves, I think above T-8 or T-9? Hope I got that right...

Do you know your numbers in the last few casts? If Bryce is not getting worse, then the casts are at least keeping the curve from progressing- in progressive children, that is still a "win", because without the cast...you get the picture. Still, I would be frustrated with no correction.

We just bathe with Bex lying on the kitchen counter, "spa style"...with a plastic bib and a towel over his front, under his back, and a rolled up towel under his neck. We use a cup to rinse, and towel dry before sitting him up.

Bex is really skinny, too, but he eats a lot (small amounts all day) and is growing. He is probably not over 25 pounds out of cast. One of the nurses said to us that "All of the Scoli kids are skinny". I don't think that's true, but I know Bex is skinny, but healthy. Do you do dairy? Use full fat!

Chin up, hang in there! Heidi, Bexon's Mama, (2 years old, in 4th cast from Salt Lake City Shriners, currently down from 61 degrees to 21)

To: infantile_scoliosis Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 6:53:34 PMSubject: Over the shoulder cast - UGH!!

Hi everyone - it has been quite a while since I have posted....although I do get in my email as often as I can and read messages and updates.

Anyway, I need encouragement, hope, ideas....all of the above and more. We just got back from Bryce getting his 5th cast put on and he is not correcting as we all had hoped. I really went into the process with an open-mind... .or at least I thought I did.....but I really thought he would be further along than he is...especially since we had started casting so early on (13 months). The doctor said one of Bryce's curves is high up on his back so he thinks that may be hindering his progress.... .so Bryce came home with an over-the-shoulder cast. UGH!!!! The doctor we go to hasn't done many of these (at least according to one of the techs that helps with the casting) so we are all just rolling with it right now to see if it does the trick. So...I have a few questions.

Bathing - How do you wash hair with an over-the-shoulder cast? We had such a good routine down pat and now I need to learn to re-do everyday things. Keep in mind, Bryce's shoulder straps seem to be really high...the tops touch the bottom of his ears.

Has anyone had success starting in an under-the-arm cast and then switching to an over-the-shoulder and seeing an improvement in correction?

Do you think we should stick with our doc (who we love) or go to a doc more experienced in the over-the-shoulder casts?

Bryce is not gaining weight - he has been about the same weight for a long time (he is 22 months and weighs 25 lbs). Is anyone supplementing milk with anything to help with growth....like a scoop of formula or instant breakfast mix??? Take care,Jen

Pickerington, OhioMommy to Bryce, 22 monthsIn cast # 5 - casting at Rochester

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Heidi,

Thats funny about all scoli kids being skinny...our nurse said all scoli kids seem to be tall. Or most of them anyway. i actually sat in the waiting room and for 2 hrs observed the kids going back and most all of them were tall and thin. Wierd, huh??

Subject: Re: Over the shoulder cast - UGH!!To: infantile_scoliosis Date: Friday, November 6, 2009, 9:32 PM

Hi Jen,

We've only done over the shoulder casts. It's my understanding that Mehta prefers over the shoulder for certain types of curves, I think above T-8 or T-9? Hope I got that right...

Do you know your numbers in the last few casts? If Bryce is not getting worse, then the casts are at least keeping the curve from progressing- in progressive children, that is still a "win", because without the cast...you get the picture. Still, I would be frustrated with no correction.

We just bathe with Bex lying on the kitchen counter, "spa style"...with a plastic bib and a towel over his front, under his back, and a rolled up towel under his neck. We use a cup to rinse, and towel dry before sitting him up.

Bex is really skinny, too, but he eats a lot (small amounts all day) and is growing. He is probably not over 25 pounds out of cast. One of the nurses said to us that "All of the Scoli kids are skinny". I don't think that's true, but I know Bex is skinny, but healthy. Do you do dairy? Use full fat!

Chin up, hang in there! Heidi, Bexon's Mama, (2 years old, in 4th cast from Salt Lake City Shriners, currently down from 61 degrees to 21)

From: Jen Dupler <jen_dupleryahoo (DOT) com>To: infantile_scoliosis @yahoogroups. comSent: Fri, November 6, 2009 6:53:34 PMSubject: [infantile_scoliosi s] Over the shoulder cast - UGH!!

Hi everyone - it has been quite a while since I have posted....although I do get in my email as often as I can and read messages and updates.

Anyway, I need encouragement, hope, ideas....all of the above and more. We just got back from Bryce getting his 5th cast put on and he is not correcting as we all had hoped. I really went into the process with an open-mind... .or at least I thought I did.....but I really thought he would be further along than he is...especially since we had started casting so early on (13 months). The doctor said one of Bryce's curves is high up on his back so he thinks that may be hindering his progress.... .so Bryce came home with an over-the-shoulder cast. UGH!!!! The doctor we go to hasn't done many of these (at least according to one of the techs that helps with the casting) so we are all just rolling with it right now to see if it does the trick. So...I have a few questions.

Bathing - How do you wash hair with an over-the-shoulder cast? We had such a good routine down pat and now I need to learn to re-do everyday things. Keep in mind, Bryce's shoulder straps seem to be really high...the tops touch the bottom of his ears.

Has anyone had success starting in an under-the-arm cast and then switching to an over-the-shoulder and seeing an improvement in correction?

Do you think we should stick with our doc (who we love) or go to a doc more experienced in the over-the-shoulder casts?

Bryce is not gaining weight - he has been about the same weight for a long time (he is 22 months and weighs 25 lbs). Is anyone supplementing milk with anything to help with growth....like a scoop of formula or instant breakfast mix??? Take care,Jen

Pickerington, OhioMommy to Bryce, 22 monthsIn cast # 5 - casting at Rochester

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Heidi,

Thats funny about all scoli kids being skinny...our nurse said all scoli kids seem to be tall. Or most of them anyway. i actually sat in the waiting room and for 2 hrs observed the kids going back and most all of them were tall and thin. Wierd, huh??

Subject: Re: Over the shoulder cast - UGH!!To: infantile_scoliosis Date: Friday, November 6, 2009, 9:32 PM

Hi Jen,

We've only done over the shoulder casts. It's my understanding that Mehta prefers over the shoulder for certain types of curves, I think above T-8 or T-9? Hope I got that right...

Do you know your numbers in the last few casts? If Bryce is not getting worse, then the casts are at least keeping the curve from progressing- in progressive children, that is still a "win", because without the cast...you get the picture. Still, I would be frustrated with no correction.

We just bathe with Bex lying on the kitchen counter, "spa style"...with a plastic bib and a towel over his front, under his back, and a rolled up towel under his neck. We use a cup to rinse, and towel dry before sitting him up.

Bex is really skinny, too, but he eats a lot (small amounts all day) and is growing. He is probably not over 25 pounds out of cast. One of the nurses said to us that "All of the Scoli kids are skinny". I don't think that's true, but I know Bex is skinny, but healthy. Do you do dairy? Use full fat!

Chin up, hang in there! Heidi, Bexon's Mama, (2 years old, in 4th cast from Salt Lake City Shriners, currently down from 61 degrees to 21)

From: Jen Dupler <jen_dupleryahoo (DOT) com>To: infantile_scoliosis @yahoogroups. comSent: Fri, November 6, 2009 6:53:34 PMSubject: [infantile_scoliosi s] Over the shoulder cast - UGH!!

Hi everyone - it has been quite a while since I have posted....although I do get in my email as often as I can and read messages and updates.

Anyway, I need encouragement, hope, ideas....all of the above and more. We just got back from Bryce getting his 5th cast put on and he is not correcting as we all had hoped. I really went into the process with an open-mind... .or at least I thought I did.....but I really thought he would be further along than he is...especially since we had started casting so early on (13 months). The doctor said one of Bryce's curves is high up on his back so he thinks that may be hindering his progress.... .so Bryce came home with an over-the-shoulder cast. UGH!!!! The doctor we go to hasn't done many of these (at least according to one of the techs that helps with the casting) so we are all just rolling with it right now to see if it does the trick. So...I have a few questions.

Bathing - How do you wash hair with an over-the-shoulder cast? We had such a good routine down pat and now I need to learn to re-do everyday things. Keep in mind, Bryce's shoulder straps seem to be really high...the tops touch the bottom of his ears.

Has anyone had success starting in an under-the-arm cast and then switching to an over-the-shoulder and seeing an improvement in correction?

Do you think we should stick with our doc (who we love) or go to a doc more experienced in the over-the-shoulder casts?

Bryce is not gaining weight - he has been about the same weight for a long time (he is 22 months and weighs 25 lbs). Is anyone supplementing milk with anything to help with growth....like a scoop of formula or instant breakfast mix??? Take care,Jen

Pickerington, OhioMommy to Bryce, 22 monthsIn cast # 5 - casting at Rochester

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Heidi,

Thats funny about all scoli kids being skinny...our nurse said all scoli kids seem to be tall. Or most of them anyway. i actually sat in the waiting room and for 2 hrs observed the kids going back and most all of them were tall and thin. Wierd, huh??

Subject: Re: Over the shoulder cast - UGH!!To: infantile_scoliosis Date: Friday, November 6, 2009, 9:32 PM

Hi Jen,

We've only done over the shoulder casts. It's my understanding that Mehta prefers over the shoulder for certain types of curves, I think above T-8 or T-9? Hope I got that right...

Do you know your numbers in the last few casts? If Bryce is not getting worse, then the casts are at least keeping the curve from progressing- in progressive children, that is still a "win", because without the cast...you get the picture. Still, I would be frustrated with no correction.

We just bathe with Bex lying on the kitchen counter, "spa style"...with a plastic bib and a towel over his front, under his back, and a rolled up towel under his neck. We use a cup to rinse, and towel dry before sitting him up.

Bex is really skinny, too, but he eats a lot (small amounts all day) and is growing. He is probably not over 25 pounds out of cast. One of the nurses said to us that "All of the Scoli kids are skinny". I don't think that's true, but I know Bex is skinny, but healthy. Do you do dairy? Use full fat!

Chin up, hang in there! Heidi, Bexon's Mama, (2 years old, in 4th cast from Salt Lake City Shriners, currently down from 61 degrees to 21)

From: Jen Dupler <jen_dupleryahoo (DOT) com>To: infantile_scoliosis @yahoogroups. comSent: Fri, November 6, 2009 6:53:34 PMSubject: [infantile_scoliosi s] Over the shoulder cast - UGH!!

Hi everyone - it has been quite a while since I have posted....although I do get in my email as often as I can and read messages and updates.

Anyway, I need encouragement, hope, ideas....all of the above and more. We just got back from Bryce getting his 5th cast put on and he is not correcting as we all had hoped. I really went into the process with an open-mind... .or at least I thought I did.....but I really thought he would be further along than he is...especially since we had started casting so early on (13 months). The doctor said one of Bryce's curves is high up on his back so he thinks that may be hindering his progress.... .so Bryce came home with an over-the-shoulder cast. UGH!!!! The doctor we go to hasn't done many of these (at least according to one of the techs that helps with the casting) so we are all just rolling with it right now to see if it does the trick. So...I have a few questions.

Bathing - How do you wash hair with an over-the-shoulder cast? We had such a good routine down pat and now I need to learn to re-do everyday things. Keep in mind, Bryce's shoulder straps seem to be really high...the tops touch the bottom of his ears.

Has anyone had success starting in an under-the-arm cast and then switching to an over-the-shoulder and seeing an improvement in correction?

Do you think we should stick with our doc (who we love) or go to a doc more experienced in the over-the-shoulder casts?

Bryce is not gaining weight - he has been about the same weight for a long time (he is 22 months and weighs 25 lbs). Is anyone supplementing milk with anything to help with growth....like a scoop of formula or instant breakfast mix??? Take care,Jen

Pickerington, OhioMommy to Bryce, 22 monthsIn cast # 5 - casting at Rochester

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Jen,

I noticed you said ONE of Bryce's curves....does he have more than one? Also, Jenn another Jenn on here goes to your same hospital so maybe she will put in her insight on this but i think shes happy there too. Over the sholder casts are typical for the Mehta method. My sons sholder straps are really high too...around the middle of his ears! Hes 14 mos so he still has baby fine hair that i refuse to cut so i just wash it with a washrag with a waterproof bib on. He does have some cradlecap now though. He will get used to the sholder straps, they just seem restrictive because you are not used to them. It will get better! Hope this makes a difference on correction!!!

Subject: Over the shoulder cast - UGH!!To: infantile_scoliosis Date: Friday, November 6, 2009, 8:53 PM

Hi everyone - it has been quite a while since I have posted....although I do get in my email as often as I can and read messages and updates.

Anyway, I need encouragement, hope, ideas....all of the above and more. We just got back from Bryce getting his 5th cast put on and he is not correcting as we all had hoped. I really went into the process with an open-mind... .or at least I thought I did.....but I really thought he would be further along than he is...especially since we had started casting so early on (13 months). The doctor said one of Bryce's curves is high up on his back so he thinks that may be hindering his progress.... .so Bryce came home with an over-the-shoulder cast. UGH!!!! The doctor we go to hasn't done many of these (at least according to one of the techs that helps with the casting) so we are all just rolling with it right now to see if it does the trick. So...I have a few questions.

Bathing - How do you wash hair with an over-the-shoulder cast? We had such a good routine down pat and now I need to learn to re-do everyday things. Keep in mind, Bryce's shoulder straps seem to be really high...the tops touch the bottom of his ears.

Has anyone had success starting in an under-the-arm cast and then switching to an over-the-shoulder and seeing an improvement in correction?

Do you think we should stick with our doc (who we love) or go to a doc more experienced in the over-the-shoulder casts?

Bryce is not gaining weight - he has been about the same weight for a long time (he is 22 months and weighs 25 lbs). Is anyone supplementing milk with anything to help with growth....like a scoop of formula or instant breakfast mix??? Take care,Jen

Pickerington, OhioMommy to Bryce, 22 monthsIn cast # 5 - casting at Rochester

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Jen,

I noticed you said ONE of Bryce's curves....does he have more than one? Also, Jenn another Jenn on here goes to your same hospital so maybe she will put in her insight on this but i think shes happy there too. Over the sholder casts are typical for the Mehta method. My sons sholder straps are really high too...around the middle of his ears! Hes 14 mos so he still has baby fine hair that i refuse to cut so i just wash it with a washrag with a waterproof bib on. He does have some cradlecap now though. He will get used to the sholder straps, they just seem restrictive because you are not used to them. It will get better! Hope this makes a difference on correction!!!

Subject: Over the shoulder cast - UGH!!To: infantile_scoliosis Date: Friday, November 6, 2009, 8:53 PM

Hi everyone - it has been quite a while since I have posted....although I do get in my email as often as I can and read messages and updates.

Anyway, I need encouragement, hope, ideas....all of the above and more. We just got back from Bryce getting his 5th cast put on and he is not correcting as we all had hoped. I really went into the process with an open-mind... .or at least I thought I did.....but I really thought he would be further along than he is...especially since we had started casting so early on (13 months). The doctor said one of Bryce's curves is high up on his back so he thinks that may be hindering his progress.... .so Bryce came home with an over-the-shoulder cast. UGH!!!! The doctor we go to hasn't done many of these (at least according to one of the techs that helps with the casting) so we are all just rolling with it right now to see if it does the trick. So...I have a few questions.

Bathing - How do you wash hair with an over-the-shoulder cast? We had such a good routine down pat and now I need to learn to re-do everyday things. Keep in mind, Bryce's shoulder straps seem to be really high...the tops touch the bottom of his ears.

Has anyone had success starting in an under-the-arm cast and then switching to an over-the-shoulder and seeing an improvement in correction?

Do you think we should stick with our doc (who we love) or go to a doc more experienced in the over-the-shoulder casts?

Bryce is not gaining weight - he has been about the same weight for a long time (he is 22 months and weighs 25 lbs). Is anyone supplementing milk with anything to help with growth....like a scoop of formula or instant breakfast mix??? Take care,Jen

Pickerington, OhioMommy to Bryce, 22 monthsIn cast # 5 - casting at Rochester

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Jen,

I noticed you said ONE of Bryce's curves....does he have more than one? Also, Jenn another Jenn on here goes to your same hospital so maybe she will put in her insight on this but i think shes happy there too. Over the sholder casts are typical for the Mehta method. My sons sholder straps are really high too...around the middle of his ears! Hes 14 mos so he still has baby fine hair that i refuse to cut so i just wash it with a washrag with a waterproof bib on. He does have some cradlecap now though. He will get used to the sholder straps, they just seem restrictive because you are not used to them. It will get better! Hope this makes a difference on correction!!!

Subject: Over the shoulder cast - UGH!!To: infantile_scoliosis Date: Friday, November 6, 2009, 8:53 PM

Hi everyone - it has been quite a while since I have posted....although I do get in my email as often as I can and read messages and updates.

Anyway, I need encouragement, hope, ideas....all of the above and more. We just got back from Bryce getting his 5th cast put on and he is not correcting as we all had hoped. I really went into the process with an open-mind... .or at least I thought I did.....but I really thought he would be further along than he is...especially since we had started casting so early on (13 months). The doctor said one of Bryce's curves is high up on his back so he thinks that may be hindering his progress.... .so Bryce came home with an over-the-shoulder cast. UGH!!!! The doctor we go to hasn't done many of these (at least according to one of the techs that helps with the casting) so we are all just rolling with it right now to see if it does the trick. So...I have a few questions.

Bathing - How do you wash hair with an over-the-shoulder cast? We had such a good routine down pat and now I need to learn to re-do everyday things. Keep in mind, Bryce's shoulder straps seem to be really high...the tops touch the bottom of his ears.

Has anyone had success starting in an under-the-arm cast and then switching to an over-the-shoulder and seeing an improvement in correction?

Do you think we should stick with our doc (who we love) or go to a doc more experienced in the over-the-shoulder casts?

Bryce is not gaining weight - he has been about the same weight for a long time (he is 22 months and weighs 25 lbs). Is anyone supplementing milk with anything to help with growth....like a scoop of formula or instant breakfast mix??? Take care,Jen

Pickerington, OhioMommy to Bryce, 22 monthsIn cast # 5 - casting at Rochester

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Joan,

I never thought of pediasure - thanks!! Take care,Jen

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To: infantile_scoliosis Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 10:25:33 PMSubject: Re: Over the shoulder cast - UGH!!

Jen

Sorry you aren't getting great results, but I do know that the over the shoulder DOES have better results when the curve is high up. My son is in his first cast and has an over the shoulder Mehta cast. Washing hair is hard, but since it is short, we just wash it with him on towel, and with a washcloth. I know a lot of parent's just place the child on a towel near the sink and wash their hair spa style, I may have to try that soon since Hayden's hair is getting longer. My son is very small for his age and gains very very slowly. Our Ped has told us all along to give him pediasure everyday. It has the calories, protein and nutrients he isn't getting from regular food. I really can't tell you whether or not to stick with your doctor. I am not sure what Hospital you go to, but I think there are other parents on here that live in your part of the country that may be able to tell you where they go. I live

in TX so we go to ish Rite. I hope this helps a little. Good luck. I hope next time you get great LOW numbers.. Joanmom to Hayden 2 1/233 degrees1st cast down from 62 degrees Treated at ish Rite Hospital Dallas, TX

From: Jen Dupler <jen_dupleryahoo (DOT) com>To: infantile_scoliosis @yahoogroups. comSent: Fri, November 6, 2009 8:53:34 PMSubject: [infantile_scoliosi s] Over the shoulder cast - UGH!!

Hi everyone - it has been quite a while since I have posted....although I do get in my email as often as I can and read messages and updates.

Anyway, I need encouragement, hope, ideas....all of the above and more. We just got back from Bryce getting his 5th cast put on and he is not correcting as we all had hoped. I really went into the process with an open-mind... .or at least I thought I did.....but I really thought he would be further along than he is...especially since we had started casting so early on (13 months). The doctor said one of Bryce's curves is high up on his back so he thinks that may be hindering his progress.... .so Bryce came home with an over-the-shoulder cast. UGH!!!! The doctor we go to hasn't done many of these (at least according to one of the techs that helps with the casting) so we are all just rolling with it right now to see if it does the trick. So...I have a few questions.

Bathing - How do you wash hair with an over-the-shoulder cast? We had such a good routine down pat and now I need to learn to re-do everyday things. Keep in mind, Bryce's shoulder straps seem to be really high...the tops touch the bottom of his ears.

Has anyone had success starting in an under-the-arm cast and then switching to an over-the-shoulder and seeing an improvement in correction?

Do you think we should stick with our doc (who we love) or go to a doc more experienced in the over-the-shoulder casts?

Bryce is not gaining weight - he has been about the same weight for a long time (he is 22 months and weighs 25 lbs). Is anyone supplementing milk with anything to help with growth....like a scoop of formula or instant breakfast mix??? Take care,Jen

Pickerington, OhioMommy to Bryce, 22 monthsIn cast # 5 - casting at Rochester

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Joan,

I never thought of pediasure - thanks!! Take care,Jen

Pickerington, OhioMommy to Bryce, 22 monthsIn cast # 5 - casting at Rochester

To: infantile_scoliosis Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 10:25:33 PMSubject: Re: Over the shoulder cast - UGH!!

Jen

Sorry you aren't getting great results, but I do know that the over the shoulder DOES have better results when the curve is high up. My son is in his first cast and has an over the shoulder Mehta cast. Washing hair is hard, but since it is short, we just wash it with him on towel, and with a washcloth. I know a lot of parent's just place the child on a towel near the sink and wash their hair spa style, I may have to try that soon since Hayden's hair is getting longer. My son is very small for his age and gains very very slowly. Our Ped has told us all along to give him pediasure everyday. It has the calories, protein and nutrients he isn't getting from regular food. I really can't tell you whether or not to stick with your doctor. I am not sure what Hospital you go to, but I think there are other parents on here that live in your part of the country that may be able to tell you where they go. I live

in TX so we go to ish Rite. I hope this helps a little. Good luck. I hope next time you get great LOW numbers.. Joanmom to Hayden 2 1/233 degrees1st cast down from 62 degrees Treated at ish Rite Hospital Dallas, TX

From: Jen Dupler <jen_dupleryahoo (DOT) com>To: infantile_scoliosis @yahoogroups. comSent: Fri, November 6, 2009 8:53:34 PMSubject: [infantile_scoliosi s] Over the shoulder cast - UGH!!

Hi everyone - it has been quite a while since I have posted....although I do get in my email as often as I can and read messages and updates.

Anyway, I need encouragement, hope, ideas....all of the above and more. We just got back from Bryce getting his 5th cast put on and he is not correcting as we all had hoped. I really went into the process with an open-mind... .or at least I thought I did.....but I really thought he would be further along than he is...especially since we had started casting so early on (13 months). The doctor said one of Bryce's curves is high up on his back so he thinks that may be hindering his progress.... .so Bryce came home with an over-the-shoulder cast. UGH!!!! The doctor we go to hasn't done many of these (at least according to one of the techs that helps with the casting) so we are all just rolling with it right now to see if it does the trick. So...I have a few questions.

Bathing - How do you wash hair with an over-the-shoulder cast? We had such a good routine down pat and now I need to learn to re-do everyday things. Keep in mind, Bryce's shoulder straps seem to be really high...the tops touch the bottom of his ears.

Has anyone had success starting in an under-the-arm cast and then switching to an over-the-shoulder and seeing an improvement in correction?

Do you think we should stick with our doc (who we love) or go to a doc more experienced in the over-the-shoulder casts?

Bryce is not gaining weight - he has been about the same weight for a long time (he is 22 months and weighs 25 lbs). Is anyone supplementing milk with anything to help with growth....like a scoop of formula or instant breakfast mix??? Take care,Jen

Pickerington, OhioMommy to Bryce, 22 monthsIn cast # 5 - casting at Rochester

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Joan,

I never thought of pediasure - thanks!! Take care,Jen

Pickerington, OhioMommy to Bryce, 22 monthsIn cast # 5 - casting at Rochester

To: infantile_scoliosis Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 10:25:33 PMSubject: Re: Over the shoulder cast - UGH!!

Jen

Sorry you aren't getting great results, but I do know that the over the shoulder DOES have better results when the curve is high up. My son is in his first cast and has an over the shoulder Mehta cast. Washing hair is hard, but since it is short, we just wash it with him on towel, and with a washcloth. I know a lot of parent's just place the child on a towel near the sink and wash their hair spa style, I may have to try that soon since Hayden's hair is getting longer. My son is very small for his age and gains very very slowly. Our Ped has told us all along to give him pediasure everyday. It has the calories, protein and nutrients he isn't getting from regular food. I really can't tell you whether or not to stick with your doctor. I am not sure what Hospital you go to, but I think there are other parents on here that live in your part of the country that may be able to tell you where they go. I live

in TX so we go to ish Rite. I hope this helps a little. Good luck. I hope next time you get great LOW numbers.. Joanmom to Hayden 2 1/233 degrees1st cast down from 62 degrees Treated at ish Rite Hospital Dallas, TX

From: Jen Dupler <jen_dupleryahoo (DOT) com>To: infantile_scoliosis @yahoogroups. comSent: Fri, November 6, 2009 8:53:34 PMSubject: [infantile_scoliosi s] Over the shoulder cast - UGH!!

Hi everyone - it has been quite a while since I have posted....although I do get in my email as often as I can and read messages and updates.

Anyway, I need encouragement, hope, ideas....all of the above and more. We just got back from Bryce getting his 5th cast put on and he is not correcting as we all had hoped. I really went into the process with an open-mind... .or at least I thought I did.....but I really thought he would be further along than he is...especially since we had started casting so early on (13 months). The doctor said one of Bryce's curves is high up on his back so he thinks that may be hindering his progress.... .so Bryce came home with an over-the-shoulder cast. UGH!!!! The doctor we go to hasn't done many of these (at least according to one of the techs that helps with the casting) so we are all just rolling with it right now to see if it does the trick. So...I have a few questions.

Bathing - How do you wash hair with an over-the-shoulder cast? We had such a good routine down pat and now I need to learn to re-do everyday things. Keep in mind, Bryce's shoulder straps seem to be really high...the tops touch the bottom of his ears.

Has anyone had success starting in an under-the-arm cast and then switching to an over-the-shoulder and seeing an improvement in correction?

Do you think we should stick with our doc (who we love) or go to a doc more experienced in the over-the-shoulder casts?

Bryce is not gaining weight - he has been about the same weight for a long time (he is 22 months and weighs 25 lbs). Is anyone supplementing milk with anything to help with growth....like a scoop of formula or instant breakfast mix??? Take care,Jen

Pickerington, OhioMommy to Bryce, 22 monthsIn cast # 5 - casting at Rochester

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Thanks for the reply, Heidi. I think I will go back to whole milk for Bryce - he is on 2%. It's funny you said "chin up".....that's what I keep telling Bryce :) He walks around with his head down because he's not used to the straps. They seem high to me, but I don't have anything else to compare them to. I looked at the pictures on the site, but it's hard to tell how the other casts "fit."

As far as the numbers, I don't have all the specifics. I haven't jotted them done the last few times. I do know he is at about 35 degrees laying down and started at about 48 degrees laying down - and this is cast #5.

I'm sure we'll all get used to the different cast just like we did when he was first casted....just a learning process. Take care,Jen

Pickerington, OhioMommy to Bryce, 22 monthsIn cast # 5 - casting at Rochester

To: infantile_scoliosis Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 10:32:54 PMSubject: Re: Over the shoulder cast - UGH!!

Hi Jen,

We've only done over the shoulder casts. It's my understanding that Mehta prefers over the shoulder for certain types of curves, I think above T-8 or T-9? Hope I got that right...

Do you know your numbers in the last few casts? If Bryce is not getting worse, then the casts are at least keeping the curve from progressing- in progressive children, that is still a "win", because without the cast...you get the picture. Still, I would be frustrated with no correction.

We just bathe with Bex lying on the kitchen counter, "spa style"...with a plastic bib and a towel over his front, under his back, and a rolled up towel under his neck. We use a cup to rinse, and towel dry before sitting him up.

Bex is really skinny, too, but he eats a lot (small amounts all day) and is growing. He is probably not over 25 pounds out of cast. One of the nurses said to us that "All of the Scoli kids are skinny". I don't think that's true, but I know Bex is skinny, but healthy. Do you do dairy? Use full fat!

Chin up, hang in there! Heidi, Bexon's Mama, (2 years old, in 4th cast from Salt Lake City Shriners, currently down from 61 degrees to 21)

From: Jen Dupler <jen_dupleryahoo (DOT) com>To: infantile_scoliosis @yahoogroups. comSent: Fri, November 6, 2009 6:53:34 PMSubject: [infantile_scoliosi s] Over the shoulder cast - UGH!!

Hi everyone - it has been quite a while since I have posted....although I do get in my email as often as I can and read messages and updates.

Anyway, I need encouragement, hope, ideas....all of the above and more. We just got back from Bryce getting his 5th cast put on and he is not correcting as we all had hoped. I really went into the process with an open-mind... .or at least I thought I did.....but I really thought he would be further along than he is...especially since we had started casting so early on (13 months). The doctor said one of Bryce's curves is high up on his back so he thinks that may be hindering his progress.... .so Bryce came home with an over-the-shoulder cast. UGH!!!! The doctor we go to hasn't done many of these (at least according to one of the techs that helps with the casting) so we are all just rolling with it right now to see if it does the trick. So...I have a few questions.

Bathing - How do you wash hair with an over-the-shoulder cast? We had such a good routine down pat and now I need to learn to re-do everyday things. Keep in mind, Bryce's shoulder straps seem to be really high...the tops touch the bottom of his ears.

Has anyone had success starting in an under-the-arm cast and then switching to an over-the-shoulder and seeing an improvement in correction?

Do you think we should stick with our doc (who we love) or go to a doc more experienced in the over-the-shoulder casts?

Bryce is not gaining weight - he has been about the same weight for a long time (he is 22 months and weighs 25 lbs). Is anyone supplementing milk with anything to help with growth....like a scoop of formula or instant breakfast mix??? Take care,Jen

Pickerington, OhioMommy to Bryce, 22 monthsIn cast # 5 - casting at Rochester

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Thanks for the reply, Heidi. I think I will go back to whole milk for Bryce - he is on 2%. It's funny you said "chin up".....that's what I keep telling Bryce :) He walks around with his head down because he's not used to the straps. They seem high to me, but I don't have anything else to compare them to. I looked at the pictures on the site, but it's hard to tell how the other casts "fit."

As far as the numbers, I don't have all the specifics. I haven't jotted them done the last few times. I do know he is at about 35 degrees laying down and started at about 48 degrees laying down - and this is cast #5.

I'm sure we'll all get used to the different cast just like we did when he was first casted....just a learning process. Take care,Jen

Pickerington, OhioMommy to Bryce, 22 monthsIn cast # 5 - casting at Rochester

To: infantile_scoliosis Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 10:32:54 PMSubject: Re: Over the shoulder cast - UGH!!

Hi Jen,

We've only done over the shoulder casts. It's my understanding that Mehta prefers over the shoulder for certain types of curves, I think above T-8 or T-9? Hope I got that right...

Do you know your numbers in the last few casts? If Bryce is not getting worse, then the casts are at least keeping the curve from progressing- in progressive children, that is still a "win", because without the cast...you get the picture. Still, I would be frustrated with no correction.

We just bathe with Bex lying on the kitchen counter, "spa style"...with a plastic bib and a towel over his front, under his back, and a rolled up towel under his neck. We use a cup to rinse, and towel dry before sitting him up.

Bex is really skinny, too, but he eats a lot (small amounts all day) and is growing. He is probably not over 25 pounds out of cast. One of the nurses said to us that "All of the Scoli kids are skinny". I don't think that's true, but I know Bex is skinny, but healthy. Do you do dairy? Use full fat!

Chin up, hang in there! Heidi, Bexon's Mama, (2 years old, in 4th cast from Salt Lake City Shriners, currently down from 61 degrees to 21)

From: Jen Dupler <jen_dupleryahoo (DOT) com>To: infantile_scoliosis @yahoogroups. comSent: Fri, November 6, 2009 6:53:34 PMSubject: [infantile_scoliosi s] Over the shoulder cast - UGH!!

Hi everyone - it has been quite a while since I have posted....although I do get in my email as often as I can and read messages and updates.

Anyway, I need encouragement, hope, ideas....all of the above and more. We just got back from Bryce getting his 5th cast put on and he is not correcting as we all had hoped. I really went into the process with an open-mind... .or at least I thought I did.....but I really thought he would be further along than he is...especially since we had started casting so early on (13 months). The doctor said one of Bryce's curves is high up on his back so he thinks that may be hindering his progress.... .so Bryce came home with an over-the-shoulder cast. UGH!!!! The doctor we go to hasn't done many of these (at least according to one of the techs that helps with the casting) so we are all just rolling with it right now to see if it does the trick. So...I have a few questions.

Bathing - How do you wash hair with an over-the-shoulder cast? We had such a good routine down pat and now I need to learn to re-do everyday things. Keep in mind, Bryce's shoulder straps seem to be really high...the tops touch the bottom of his ears.

Has anyone had success starting in an under-the-arm cast and then switching to an over-the-shoulder and seeing an improvement in correction?

Do you think we should stick with our doc (who we love) or go to a doc more experienced in the over-the-shoulder casts?

Bryce is not gaining weight - he has been about the same weight for a long time (he is 22 months and weighs 25 lbs). Is anyone supplementing milk with anything to help with growth....like a scoop of formula or instant breakfast mix??? Take care,Jen

Pickerington, OhioMommy to Bryce, 22 monthsIn cast # 5 - casting at Rochester

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Thanks for the reply, Heidi. I think I will go back to whole milk for Bryce - he is on 2%. It's funny you said "chin up".....that's what I keep telling Bryce :) He walks around with his head down because he's not used to the straps. They seem high to me, but I don't have anything else to compare them to. I looked at the pictures on the site, but it's hard to tell how the other casts "fit."

As far as the numbers, I don't have all the specifics. I haven't jotted them done the last few times. I do know he is at about 35 degrees laying down and started at about 48 degrees laying down - and this is cast #5.

I'm sure we'll all get used to the different cast just like we did when he was first casted....just a learning process. Take care,Jen

Pickerington, OhioMommy to Bryce, 22 monthsIn cast # 5 - casting at Rochester

To: infantile_scoliosis Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 10:32:54 PMSubject: Re: Over the shoulder cast - UGH!!

Hi Jen,

We've only done over the shoulder casts. It's my understanding that Mehta prefers over the shoulder for certain types of curves, I think above T-8 or T-9? Hope I got that right...

Do you know your numbers in the last few casts? If Bryce is not getting worse, then the casts are at least keeping the curve from progressing- in progressive children, that is still a "win", because without the cast...you get the picture. Still, I would be frustrated with no correction.

We just bathe with Bex lying on the kitchen counter, "spa style"...with a plastic bib and a towel over his front, under his back, and a rolled up towel under his neck. We use a cup to rinse, and towel dry before sitting him up.

Bex is really skinny, too, but he eats a lot (small amounts all day) and is growing. He is probably not over 25 pounds out of cast. One of the nurses said to us that "All of the Scoli kids are skinny". I don't think that's true, but I know Bex is skinny, but healthy. Do you do dairy? Use full fat!

Chin up, hang in there! Heidi, Bexon's Mama, (2 years old, in 4th cast from Salt Lake City Shriners, currently down from 61 degrees to 21)

From: Jen Dupler <jen_dupleryahoo (DOT) com>To: infantile_scoliosis @yahoogroups. comSent: Fri, November 6, 2009 6:53:34 PMSubject: [infantile_scoliosi s] Over the shoulder cast - UGH!!

Hi everyone - it has been quite a while since I have posted....although I do get in my email as often as I can and read messages and updates.

Anyway, I need encouragement, hope, ideas....all of the above and more. We just got back from Bryce getting his 5th cast put on and he is not correcting as we all had hoped. I really went into the process with an open-mind... .or at least I thought I did.....but I really thought he would be further along than he is...especially since we had started casting so early on (13 months). The doctor said one of Bryce's curves is high up on his back so he thinks that may be hindering his progress.... .so Bryce came home with an over-the-shoulder cast. UGH!!!! The doctor we go to hasn't done many of these (at least according to one of the techs that helps with the casting) so we are all just rolling with it right now to see if it does the trick. So...I have a few questions.

Bathing - How do you wash hair with an over-the-shoulder cast? We had such a good routine down pat and now I need to learn to re-do everyday things. Keep in mind, Bryce's shoulder straps seem to be really high...the tops touch the bottom of his ears.

Has anyone had success starting in an under-the-arm cast and then switching to an over-the-shoulder and seeing an improvement in correction?

Do you think we should stick with our doc (who we love) or go to a doc more experienced in the over-the-shoulder casts?

Bryce is not gaining weight - he has been about the same weight for a long time (he is 22 months and weighs 25 lbs). Is anyone supplementing milk with anything to help with growth....like a scoop of formula or instant breakfast mix??? Take care,Jen

Pickerington, OhioMommy to Bryce, 22 monthsIn cast # 5 - casting at Rochester

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I'm so glad to hear the over-the-shoulder method is out there more than I thought.

Yes - Bryce has 3 curves....really only 2 are a concern....

I think he'll get used to it...he's already gotten better at learning to do things with the new cast.

Take care,Jen

Pickerington, OhioMommy to Bryce, 22 monthsIn cast # 5 - casting at Rochester

To: infantile_scoliosis Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 10:48:16 PMSubject: Re: Over the shoulder cast - UGH!!

Jen,

I noticed you said ONE of Bryce's curves....does he have more than one? Also, Jenn another Jenn on here goes to your same hospital so maybe she will put in her insight on this but i think shes happy there too. Over the sholder casts are typical for the Mehta method. My sons sholder straps are really high too...around the middle of his ears! Hes 14 mos so he still has baby fine hair that i refuse to cut so i just wash it with a washrag with a waterproof bib on. He does have some cradlecap now though. He will get used to the sholder straps, they just seem restrictive because you are not used to them. It will get better! Hope this makes a difference on correction!! !

From: Jen Dupler <jen_dupleryahoo (DOT) com>Subject: [infantile_scoliosi s] Over the shoulder cast - UGH!!To: infantile_scoliosis @yahoogroups. comDate: Friday, November 6, 2009, 8:53 PM

Hi everyone - it has been quite a while since I have posted....although I do get in my email as often as I can and read messages and updates.

Anyway, I need encouragement, hope, ideas....all of the above and more. We just got back from Bryce getting his 5th cast put on and he is not correcting as we all had hoped. I really went into the process with an open-mind... .or at least I thought I did.....but I really thought he would be further along than he is...especially since we had started casting so early on (13 months). The doctor said one of Bryce's curves is high up on his back so he thinks that may be hindering his progress.... .so Bryce came home with an over-the-shoulder cast. UGH!!!! The doctor we go to hasn't done many of these (at least according to one of the techs that helps with the casting) so we are all just rolling with it right now to see if it does the trick. So...I have a few questions.

Bathing - How do you wash hair with an over-the-shoulder cast? We had such a good routine down pat and now I need to learn to re-do everyday things. Keep in mind, Bryce's shoulder straps seem to be really high...the tops touch the bottom of his ears.

Has anyone had success starting in an under-the-arm cast and then switching to an over-the-shoulder and seeing an improvement in correction?

Do you think we should stick with our doc (who we love) or go to a doc more experienced in the over-the-shoulder casts?

Bryce is not gaining weight - he has been about the same weight for a long time (he is 22 months and weighs 25 lbs). Is anyone supplementing milk with anything to help with growth....like a scoop of formula or instant breakfast mix??? Take care,Jen

Pickerington, OhioMommy to Bryce, 22 monthsIn cast # 5 - casting at Rochester

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I'm so glad to hear the over-the-shoulder method is out there more than I thought.

Yes - Bryce has 3 curves....really only 2 are a concern....

I think he'll get used to it...he's already gotten better at learning to do things with the new cast.

Take care,Jen

Pickerington, OhioMommy to Bryce, 22 monthsIn cast # 5 - casting at Rochester

To: infantile_scoliosis Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 10:48:16 PMSubject: Re: Over the shoulder cast - UGH!!

Jen,

I noticed you said ONE of Bryce's curves....does he have more than one? Also, Jenn another Jenn on here goes to your same hospital so maybe she will put in her insight on this but i think shes happy there too. Over the sholder casts are typical for the Mehta method. My sons sholder straps are really high too...around the middle of his ears! Hes 14 mos so he still has baby fine hair that i refuse to cut so i just wash it with a washrag with a waterproof bib on. He does have some cradlecap now though. He will get used to the sholder straps, they just seem restrictive because you are not used to them. It will get better! Hope this makes a difference on correction!! !

From: Jen Dupler <jen_dupleryahoo (DOT) com>Subject: [infantile_scoliosi s] Over the shoulder cast - UGH!!To: infantile_scoliosis @yahoogroups. comDate: Friday, November 6, 2009, 8:53 PM

Hi everyone - it has been quite a while since I have posted....although I do get in my email as often as I can and read messages and updates.

Anyway, I need encouragement, hope, ideas....all of the above and more. We just got back from Bryce getting his 5th cast put on and he is not correcting as we all had hoped. I really went into the process with an open-mind... .or at least I thought I did.....but I really thought he would be further along than he is...especially since we had started casting so early on (13 months). The doctor said one of Bryce's curves is high up on his back so he thinks that may be hindering his progress.... .so Bryce came home with an over-the-shoulder cast. UGH!!!! The doctor we go to hasn't done many of these (at least according to one of the techs that helps with the casting) so we are all just rolling with it right now to see if it does the trick. So...I have a few questions.

Bathing - How do you wash hair with an over-the-shoulder cast? We had such a good routine down pat and now I need to learn to re-do everyday things. Keep in mind, Bryce's shoulder straps seem to be really high...the tops touch the bottom of his ears.

Has anyone had success starting in an under-the-arm cast and then switching to an over-the-shoulder and seeing an improvement in correction?

Do you think we should stick with our doc (who we love) or go to a doc more experienced in the over-the-shoulder casts?

Bryce is not gaining weight - he has been about the same weight for a long time (he is 22 months and weighs 25 lbs). Is anyone supplementing milk with anything to help with growth....like a scoop of formula or instant breakfast mix??? Take care,Jen

Pickerington, OhioMommy to Bryce, 22 monthsIn cast # 5 - casting at Rochester

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I'm so glad to hear the over-the-shoulder method is out there more than I thought.

Yes - Bryce has 3 curves....really only 2 are a concern....

I think he'll get used to it...he's already gotten better at learning to do things with the new cast.

Take care,Jen

Pickerington, OhioMommy to Bryce, 22 monthsIn cast # 5 - casting at Rochester

To: infantile_scoliosis Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 10:48:16 PMSubject: Re: Over the shoulder cast - UGH!!

Jen,

I noticed you said ONE of Bryce's curves....does he have more than one? Also, Jenn another Jenn on here goes to your same hospital so maybe she will put in her insight on this but i think shes happy there too. Over the sholder casts are typical for the Mehta method. My sons sholder straps are really high too...around the middle of his ears! Hes 14 mos so he still has baby fine hair that i refuse to cut so i just wash it with a washrag with a waterproof bib on. He does have some cradlecap now though. He will get used to the sholder straps, they just seem restrictive because you are not used to them. It will get better! Hope this makes a difference on correction!! !

From: Jen Dupler <jen_dupleryahoo (DOT) com>Subject: [infantile_scoliosi s] Over the shoulder cast - UGH!!To: infantile_scoliosis @yahoogroups. comDate: Friday, November 6, 2009, 8:53 PM

Hi everyone - it has been quite a while since I have posted....although I do get in my email as often as I can and read messages and updates.

Anyway, I need encouragement, hope, ideas....all of the above and more. We just got back from Bryce getting his 5th cast put on and he is not correcting as we all had hoped. I really went into the process with an open-mind... .or at least I thought I did.....but I really thought he would be further along than he is...especially since we had started casting so early on (13 months). The doctor said one of Bryce's curves is high up on his back so he thinks that may be hindering his progress.... .so Bryce came home with an over-the-shoulder cast. UGH!!!! The doctor we go to hasn't done many of these (at least according to one of the techs that helps with the casting) so we are all just rolling with it right now to see if it does the trick. So...I have a few questions.

Bathing - How do you wash hair with an over-the-shoulder cast? We had such a good routine down pat and now I need to learn to re-do everyday things. Keep in mind, Bryce's shoulder straps seem to be really high...the tops touch the bottom of his ears.

Has anyone had success starting in an under-the-arm cast and then switching to an over-the-shoulder and seeing an improvement in correction?

Do you think we should stick with our doc (who we love) or go to a doc more experienced in the over-the-shoulder casts?

Bryce is not gaining weight - he has been about the same weight for a long time (he is 22 months and weighs 25 lbs). Is anyone supplementing milk with anything to help with growth....like a scoop of formula or instant breakfast mix??? Take care,Jen

Pickerington, OhioMommy to Bryce, 22 monthsIn cast # 5 - casting at Rochester

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Tonya,

Bryce doesn't let anyone near him with a measuring tape, so we never really get a good measurement...LOL. I hope he's growing like Nora, though :)Take care,Jen

Pickerington, OhioMommy to Bryce, 22 monthsIn cast # 5 - casting at Rochester

To: infantile_scoliosis Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 10:51:26 PMSubject: Re: Over the shoulder cast - UGH!!

The drs used to fuss because Nora was under height and weight. They stopped fussing when she gained 3 inches from the first casting!

Tonya

From: NIck Guthe <nickgutheyahoo (DOT) com>Subject: Re: [infantile_scoliosi s] Over the shoulder cast - UGH!!To: infantile_scoliosis @yahoogroups. comDate: Friday, November 6, 2009, 9:32 PM

Hi Jen,

We've only done over the shoulder casts. It's my understanding that Mehta prefers over the shoulder for certain types of curves, I think above T-8 or T-9? Hope I got that right...

Do you know your numbers in the last few casts? If Bryce is not getting worse, then the casts are at least keeping the curve from progressing- in progressive children, that is still a "win", because without the cast...you get the picture. Still, I would be frustrated with no correction.

We just bathe with Bex lying on the kitchen counter, "spa style"...with a plastic bib and a towel over his front, under his back, and a rolled up towel under his neck. We use a cup to rinse, and towel dry before sitting him up.

Bex is really skinny, too, but he eats a lot (small amounts all day) and is growing. He is probably not over 25 pounds out of cast. One of the nurses said to us that "All of the Scoli kids are skinny". I don't think that's true, but I know Bex is skinny, but healthy. Do you do dairy? Use full fat!

Chin up, hang in there! Heidi, Bexon's Mama, (2 years old, in 4th cast from Salt Lake City Shriners, currently down from 61 degrees to 21)

From: Jen Dupler <jen_dupleryahoo (DOT) com>To: infantile_scoliosis @yahoogroups. comSent: Fri, November 6, 2009 6:53:34 PMSubject: [infantile_scoliosi s] Over the shoulder cast - UGH!!

Hi everyone - it has been quite a while since I have posted....although I do get in my email as often as I can and read messages and updates.

Anyway, I need encouragement, hope, ideas....all of the above and more. We just got back from Bryce getting his 5th cast put on and he is not correcting as we all had hoped. I really went into the process with an open-mind... .or at least I thought I did.....but I really thought he would be further along than he is...especially since we had started casting so early on (13 months). The doctor said one of Bryce's curves is high up on his back so he thinks that may be hindering his progress.... .so Bryce came home with an over-the-shoulder cast. UGH!!!! The doctor we go to hasn't done many of these (at least according to one of the techs that helps with the casting) so we are all just rolling with it right now to see if it does the trick. So...I have a few questions.

Bathing - How do you wash hair with an over-the-shoulder cast? We had such a good routine down pat and now I need to learn to re-do everyday things. Keep in mind, Bryce's shoulder straps seem to be really high...the tops touch the bottom of his ears.

Has anyone had success starting in an under-the-arm cast and then switching to an over-the-shoulder and seeing an improvement in correction?

Do you think we should stick with our doc (who we love) or go to a doc more experienced in the over-the-shoulder casts?

Bryce is not gaining weight - he has been about the same weight for a long time (he is 22 months and weighs 25 lbs). Is anyone supplementing milk with anything to help with growth....like a scoop of formula or instant breakfast mix??? Take care,Jen

Pickerington, OhioMommy to Bryce, 22 monthsIn cast # 5 - casting at Rochester

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Tonya,

Bryce doesn't let anyone near him with a measuring tape, so we never really get a good measurement...LOL. I hope he's growing like Nora, though :)Take care,Jen

Pickerington, OhioMommy to Bryce, 22 monthsIn cast # 5 - casting at Rochester

To: infantile_scoliosis Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 10:51:26 PMSubject: Re: Over the shoulder cast - UGH!!

The drs used to fuss because Nora was under height and weight. They stopped fussing when she gained 3 inches from the first casting!

Tonya

From: NIck Guthe <nickgutheyahoo (DOT) com>Subject: Re: [infantile_scoliosi s] Over the shoulder cast - UGH!!To: infantile_scoliosis @yahoogroups. comDate: Friday, November 6, 2009, 9:32 PM

Hi Jen,

We've only done over the shoulder casts. It's my understanding that Mehta prefers over the shoulder for certain types of curves, I think above T-8 or T-9? Hope I got that right...

Do you know your numbers in the last few casts? If Bryce is not getting worse, then the casts are at least keeping the curve from progressing- in progressive children, that is still a "win", because without the cast...you get the picture. Still, I would be frustrated with no correction.

We just bathe with Bex lying on the kitchen counter, "spa style"...with a plastic bib and a towel over his front, under his back, and a rolled up towel under his neck. We use a cup to rinse, and towel dry before sitting him up.

Bex is really skinny, too, but he eats a lot (small amounts all day) and is growing. He is probably not over 25 pounds out of cast. One of the nurses said to us that "All of the Scoli kids are skinny". I don't think that's true, but I know Bex is skinny, but healthy. Do you do dairy? Use full fat!

Chin up, hang in there! Heidi, Bexon's Mama, (2 years old, in 4th cast from Salt Lake City Shriners, currently down from 61 degrees to 21)

From: Jen Dupler <jen_dupleryahoo (DOT) com>To: infantile_scoliosis @yahoogroups. comSent: Fri, November 6, 2009 6:53:34 PMSubject: [infantile_scoliosi s] Over the shoulder cast - UGH!!

Hi everyone - it has been quite a while since I have posted....although I do get in my email as often as I can and read messages and updates.

Anyway, I need encouragement, hope, ideas....all of the above and more. We just got back from Bryce getting his 5th cast put on and he is not correcting as we all had hoped. I really went into the process with an open-mind... .or at least I thought I did.....but I really thought he would be further along than he is...especially since we had started casting so early on (13 months). The doctor said one of Bryce's curves is high up on his back so he thinks that may be hindering his progress.... .so Bryce came home with an over-the-shoulder cast. UGH!!!! The doctor we go to hasn't done many of these (at least according to one of the techs that helps with the casting) so we are all just rolling with it right now to see if it does the trick. So...I have a few questions.

Bathing - How do you wash hair with an over-the-shoulder cast? We had such a good routine down pat and now I need to learn to re-do everyday things. Keep in mind, Bryce's shoulder straps seem to be really high...the tops touch the bottom of his ears.

Has anyone had success starting in an under-the-arm cast and then switching to an over-the-shoulder and seeing an improvement in correction?

Do you think we should stick with our doc (who we love) or go to a doc more experienced in the over-the-shoulder casts?

Bryce is not gaining weight - he has been about the same weight for a long time (he is 22 months and weighs 25 lbs). Is anyone supplementing milk with anything to help with growth....like a scoop of formula or instant breakfast mix??? Take care,Jen

Pickerington, OhioMommy to Bryce, 22 monthsIn cast # 5 - casting at Rochester

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Tonya,

Bryce doesn't let anyone near him with a measuring tape, so we never really get a good measurement...LOL. I hope he's growing like Nora, though :)Take care,Jen

Pickerington, OhioMommy to Bryce, 22 monthsIn cast # 5 - casting at Rochester

To: infantile_scoliosis Sent: Fri, November 6, 2009 10:51:26 PMSubject: Re: Over the shoulder cast - UGH!!

The drs used to fuss because Nora was under height and weight. They stopped fussing when she gained 3 inches from the first casting!

Tonya

From: NIck Guthe <nickgutheyahoo (DOT) com>Subject: Re: [infantile_scoliosi s] Over the shoulder cast - UGH!!To: infantile_scoliosis @yahoogroups. comDate: Friday, November 6, 2009, 9:32 PM

Hi Jen,

We've only done over the shoulder casts. It's my understanding that Mehta prefers over the shoulder for certain types of curves, I think above T-8 or T-9? Hope I got that right...

Do you know your numbers in the last few casts? If Bryce is not getting worse, then the casts are at least keeping the curve from progressing- in progressive children, that is still a "win", because without the cast...you get the picture. Still, I would be frustrated with no correction.

We just bathe with Bex lying on the kitchen counter, "spa style"...with a plastic bib and a towel over his front, under his back, and a rolled up towel under his neck. We use a cup to rinse, and towel dry before sitting him up.

Bex is really skinny, too, but he eats a lot (small amounts all day) and is growing. He is probably not over 25 pounds out of cast. One of the nurses said to us that "All of the Scoli kids are skinny". I don't think that's true, but I know Bex is skinny, but healthy. Do you do dairy? Use full fat!

Chin up, hang in there! Heidi, Bexon's Mama, (2 years old, in 4th cast from Salt Lake City Shriners, currently down from 61 degrees to 21)

From: Jen Dupler <jen_dupleryahoo (DOT) com>To: infantile_scoliosis @yahoogroups. comSent: Fri, November 6, 2009 6:53:34 PMSubject: [infantile_scoliosi s] Over the shoulder cast - UGH!!

Hi everyone - it has been quite a while since I have posted....although I do get in my email as often as I can and read messages and updates.

Anyway, I need encouragement, hope, ideas....all of the above and more. We just got back from Bryce getting his 5th cast put on and he is not correcting as we all had hoped. I really went into the process with an open-mind... .or at least I thought I did.....but I really thought he would be further along than he is...especially since we had started casting so early on (13 months). The doctor said one of Bryce's curves is high up on his back so he thinks that may be hindering his progress.... .so Bryce came home with an over-the-shoulder cast. UGH!!!! The doctor we go to hasn't done many of these (at least according to one of the techs that helps with the casting) so we are all just rolling with it right now to see if it does the trick. So...I have a few questions.

Bathing - How do you wash hair with an over-the-shoulder cast? We had such a good routine down pat and now I need to learn to re-do everyday things. Keep in mind, Bryce's shoulder straps seem to be really high...the tops touch the bottom of his ears.

Has anyone had success starting in an under-the-arm cast and then switching to an over-the-shoulder and seeing an improvement in correction?

Do you think we should stick with our doc (who we love) or go to a doc more experienced in the over-the-shoulder casts?

Bryce is not gaining weight - he has been about the same weight for a long time (he is 22 months and weighs 25 lbs). Is anyone supplementing milk with anything to help with growth....like a scoop of formula or instant breakfast mix??? Take care,Jen

Pickerington, OhioMommy to Bryce, 22 monthsIn cast # 5 - casting at Rochester

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Bryce is definitely in the slender category...LOL Take care,Jen

Pickerington, OhioMommy to Bryce, 22 monthsIn cast # 5 - casting at Rochester

To: infantile_scoliosis Sent: Sat, November 7, 2009 1:21:00 AMSubject: Re: Over the shoulder cast - UGH!!

I think there were 2 main types Dr. Mehta found..."Sturdy" and "Slender", off the top of my head Fri. at 10pm...

Heidi, Bexon's Mama, (2 years old, in 4th cast from Salt Lake City Shriners, currently down from 61 degrees to 21)

From: <missikay10yahoo (DOT) com>To: infantile_scoliosis @yahoogroups. comSent: Fri, November 6, 2009 7:38:20 PMSubject: Re: [infantile_scoliosi s] Over the shoulder cast - UGH!!

Heidi,

Thats funny about all scoli kids being skinny...our nurse said all scoli kids seem to be tall. Or most of them anyway. i actually sat in the waiting room and for 2 hrs observed the kids going back and most all of them were tall and thin. Wierd, huh??

From: NIck Guthe <nickgutheyahoo (DOT) com>Subject: Re: [infantile_scoliosi s] Over the shoulder cast - UGH!!To: infantile_scoliosis @yahoogroups. comDate: Friday, November 6, 2009, 9:32 PM

Hi Jen,

We've only done over the shoulder casts. It's my understanding that Mehta prefers over the shoulder for certain types of curves, I think above T-8 or T-9? Hope I got that right...

Do you know your numbers in the last few casts? If Bryce is not getting worse, then the casts are at least keeping the curve from progressing- in progressive children, that is still a "win", because without the cast...you get the picture. Still, I would be frustrated with no correction.

We just bathe with Bex lying on the kitchen counter, "spa style"...with a plastic bib and a towel over his front, under his back, and a rolled up towel under his neck. We use a cup to rinse, and towel dry before sitting him up.

Bex is really skinny, too, but he eats a lot (small amounts all day) and is growing. He is probably not over 25 pounds out of cast. One of the nurses said to us that "All of the Scoli kids are skinny". I don't think that's true, but I know Bex is skinny, but healthy. Do you do dairy? Use full fat!

Chin up, hang in there! Heidi, Bexon's Mama, (2 years old, in 4th cast from Salt Lake City Shriners, currently down from 61 degrees to 21)

From: Jen Dupler <jen_dupleryahoo (DOT) com>To: infantile_scoliosis @yahoogroups. comSent: Fri, November 6, 2009 6:53:34 PMSubject: [infantile_scoliosi s] Over the shoulder cast - UGH!!

Hi everyone - it has been quite a while since I have posted....although I do get in my email as often as I can and read messages and updates.

Anyway, I need encouragement, hope, ideas....all of the above and more. We just got back from Bryce getting his 5th cast put on and he is not correcting as we all had hoped. I really went into the process with an open-mind... .or at least I thought I did.....but I really thought he would be further along than he is...especially since we had started casting so early on (13 months). The doctor said one of Bryce's curves is high up on his back so he thinks that may be hindering his progress.... .so Bryce came home with an over-the-shoulder cast. UGH!!!! The doctor we go to hasn't done many of these (at least according to one of the techs that helps with the casting) so we are all just rolling with it right now to see if it does the trick. So...I have a few questions.

Bathing - How do you wash hair with an over-the-shoulder cast? We had such a good routine down pat and now I need to learn to re-do everyday things. Keep in mind, Bryce's shoulder straps seem to be really high...the tops touch the bottom of his ears.

Has anyone had success starting in an under-the-arm cast and then switching to an over-the-shoulder and seeing an improvement in correction?

Do you think we should stick with our doc (who we love) or go to a doc more experienced in the over-the-shoulder casts?

Bryce is not gaining weight - he has been about the same weight for a long time (he is 22 months and weighs 25 lbs). Is anyone supplementing milk with anything to help with growth....like a scoop of formula or instant breakfast mix??? Take care,Jen

Pickerington, OhioMommy to Bryce, 22 monthsIn cast # 5 - casting at Rochester

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