Re: Dr Phil.. here I come!

[Guest guest]

No way!!! Untreated hypo can cause neuropathy? My mother has that! My sister and I are both hypo so I wonder if my mom is, too...Jan wrote:

Inflexible crampy muscles, for starters. Thyroid and other endocrine receptors that don't do their job very well. Nerve and muscle damage: neuropathy and myopathy. Osteoporosis. Courtenay wrote:

I went undiagnosed for ten years, from the ages of 19 to 29. What kind of permanent damage are we talking about here?

Courtenay.

If she got diagnosed quickly and put on Armour soon thereafter, she may not be having all the problems that many of us are having.

Hypothyroidism causes tissue damage. It can take years to heal. And some of us may never be normal. This is what most docs do not understand.

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[Guest guest]

Thanks Courtenay, it was great! I really needed that! First real

vacation since we've been back (3 1/2 years) -- the mountain country

is beautiful this time of year. Nice, cool, blue skies, beautiful

fall colors, crisp clean air -- oh yeah. )

Will the hot & muggy ever go away down here? I was glad to read you

are seeing a naturopath. Let us know how it it goes!

> Hi !

>

> How was your trip? I'm glad you're back!

>

> As for Dr. Phil-- someone needs to straighten that man out. As

soon

> as I get well enough, I'm going to write him a letter, too. Good

> idea!

>

> Best--

>

> Courtenay.

[Guest guest]

Yes, says I with 6 yrs worth of tinnitus, day and night, night and day. I never would have thought it. Unless they do an exploratory on my brain, I probably will never know. I still have very subtle balance problems, and the one doctor still said that it's ongoing allergies. Yeh, right, when you walk across a parking lot and fall flat on your side, it's an allergy. More like poisoning, both to my inner ears and my thyroid. Antibodies is what I really think, but once the delicate inner ear parts are truly damaged, replacements are necessary, or removal of some fluid in a very delicate area. If they don't get it right the first time, you're totally deaf the rest of your life. I think I want to at least hear my music. But just take a $ynthroid a day, and you'll be doing cartwheels in no time at all.

Re: Dr Phil.. here I come!

If she got diagnosed quickly and put on Armour soon thereafter, she may not be having all the problems that many of us are having.

Hypothyroidism causes tissue damage. It can take years to heal. And some of us may never be normal. This is what most docs do not understand.

[Guest guest]

Yes, says I with 6 yrs worth of tinnitus, day and night, night and day. I never would have thought it. Unless they do an exploratory on my brain, I probably will never know. I still have very subtle balance problems, and the one doctor still said that it's ongoing allergies. Yeh, right, when you walk across a parking lot and fall flat on your side, it's an allergy. More like poisoning, both to my inner ears and my thyroid. Antibodies is what I really think, but once the delicate inner ear parts are truly damaged, replacements are necessary, or removal of some fluid in a very delicate area. If they don't get it right the first time, you're totally deaf the rest of your life. I think I want to at least hear my music. But just take a $ynthroid a day, and you'll be doing cartwheels in no time at all.

Re: Dr Phil.. here I come!

If she got diagnosed quickly and put on Armour soon thereafter, she may not be having all the problems that many of us are having.

Hypothyroidism causes tissue damage. It can take years to heal. And some of us may never be normal. This is what most docs do not understand.

[Guest guest]

Yes, says I with 6 yrs worth of tinnitus, day and night, night and day. I never would have thought it. Unless they do an exploratory on my brain, I probably will never know. I still have very subtle balance problems, and the one doctor still said that it's ongoing allergies. Yeh, right, when you walk across a parking lot and fall flat on your side, it's an allergy. More like poisoning, both to my inner ears and my thyroid. Antibodies is what I really think, but once the delicate inner ear parts are truly damaged, replacements are necessary, or removal of some fluid in a very delicate area. If they don't get it right the first time, you're totally deaf the rest of your life. I think I want to at least hear my music. But just take a $ynthroid a day, and you'll be doing cartwheels in no time at all.

Re: Dr Phil.. here I come!

If she got diagnosed quickly and put on Armour soon thereafter, she may not be having all the problems that many of us are having.

Hypothyroidism causes tissue damage. It can take years to heal. And some of us may never be normal. This is what most docs do not understand.

[Guest guest]

And feet that are like walking on two flat boards, though I've heard that some people's feet repair themselves. It will take a couple of surgeries for mine. I NEVER wore high heels either and always wore the shoes that were supportive of my feet. The muscle that connects the front and back of the foot was stretched out. Even exercises to strengthen them won't repair this damage, though it has improved it. At least I don't have the heel spurs any longer, but, because of the strange foot mechanics caused by that main muscle problem, over time, the toes are reshaped into each two outer toes being hammer toes. They're just gradually shaping into this over the last few yrs. And, because the toes are now stiffer and don't flex as easily, due to hitting the floor in places where they shouldn't normally hit, constantly having to wear shoes at work helps put a couple of soft corns in places where they shouldn't be, and the feet go into cramps that would make a person resemble Neanderthal Man. This means that you will not be wearing those cute little shoes that you REALLY want to buy, you'll be wearing something that resembles Bozo the Clown's. There are myriads of things that other people experience as permanent damage, as each person's more vulnerable areas probably came forward from the beginning of undertreatment. I'm not worried about it, but then there are possibly permanent blood vessel changes that cause high blood pressure problems that, in some people, have been around long enough (not diagnosed for 10 to 20 yrs, for example, at a little older age maybe) to cause permanent changes in the heart muscle, a weakening that can't be repaired, except by a heart transplant, and we all know you could be waiting until the Rapture for that on a waiting list. (Well, at least I know that I won't have THOSE problems then!) I could go on and on, and some of these are worst case scenarios. This is why the misdiagnosis, undertreatment, and flagrant treatment and disrespect of thyroid patients makes me so darn angry. Don't they realize that what they are deciding today will, more than likely, cause a chain reaction in that person's life that will change everything that happens to them and even the decisions they make for the next 50 yrs? The medical world, whose first obligation is to do no harm, has turned into a Hitman Organization, with slow death to follow. It's become like Chicago all over again, with that much control, even. Those that don't understand (including my children) say things like, Oh, You're Just Getting Older Mom. I say, Yeh, that's why we have hundreds, if not thousands of people in our Groups who are as young as 16 yrs old seeking help in desperation and people who were diagnosed when they were 12, feeling like little old old people at the old age of 25 to 30, with all the same problems as those of us who were diagnosed in our 40s and 50s. Then they roll their eyes, and I'm thinking, Yeh, what if, one day, you got out of bed and was shaking to pieces, your eyes were literally popping out of your head, and you were losing weight at the rate of 8 to 10 lbs a week, and couldn't do anything about it, or suddenly, in a month's period of time, put on about 50 lbs, and the doc says You're Just Lazy? THEN what would you be saying? Taking those tranquilizers and antidepressants that the doc is going to hand to you, or rather help to sell to you? Please help me Mummie?

Rant ended for now.

Re: Dr Phil.. here I come!

Inflexible crampy muscles, for starters. Thyroid and other endocrine receptors that don't do their job very well. Nerve and muscle damage: neuropathy and myopathy. Osteoporosis.