Re: ANNOUNCEMENT TO ALL MEMBERS - YOUR HELP NEEDED!

[Guest guest]

> Those " position:absolute " work best with fixed size attributes

> like photos. They obviously block text, which changes according

> to web browser and the individual's font size selection.

>

> So what does one do about this?

Easy answer, although not complete:

Get rid of the " absolute " position on the <div> tags. The

exception is where the position cannot block text (unless the

text is excessively large).

The " incomplete " part of the answer is that the tables need to

be spaced apart so that the copyright part isn't too close to

the main text.

The idea is that the table divisions start to the right of the

three images (the FAM group logos). Then as text size changes,

the table divisions move.

It is also possible to combine the copyright notation with the

main text, while retaining the difference in different font

styles. The " marble.gif " (looks like a <hr>) could be in-line

with the text to divide it.

All of this depends on how the page is created, meaning with

webpage editor or plain text coded.

- s

[Guest guest]

> Those " position:absolute " work best with fixed size attributes

> like photos. They obviously block text, which changes according

> to web browser and the individual's font size selection.

>

> So what does one do about this?

Easy answer, although not complete:

Get rid of the " absolute " position on the <div> tags. The

exception is where the position cannot block text (unless the

text is excessively large).

The " incomplete " part of the answer is that the tables need to

be spaced apart so that the copyright part isn't too close to

the main text.

The idea is that the table divisions start to the right of the

three images (the FAM group logos). Then as text size changes,

the table divisions move.

It is also possible to combine the copyright notation with the

main text, while retaining the difference in different font

styles. The " marble.gif " (looks like a <hr>) could be in-line

with the text to divide it.

All of this depends on how the page is created, meaning with

webpage editor or plain text coded.

- s

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the info, Stan. Hope this is of any help to Tom.

The page was created with the Yahoo template. That's why it surprises me

that it doesn't work for some of us. You'd think they would have created a

template that will be readable to everyone?

Inger

> Those " position:absolute " work best with fixed size attributes

> like photos. They obviously block text, which changes according

> to web browser and the individual's font size selection.

>

> So what does one do about this?

Easy answer, although not complete:

Get rid of the " absolute " position on the <div> tags. The

exception is where the position cannot block text (unless the

text is excessively large).

The " incomplete " part of the answer is that the tables need to

be spaced apart so that the copyright part isn't too close to

the main text.

The idea is that the table divisions start to the right of the

three images (the FAM group logos). Then as text size changes,

the table divisions move.

It is also possible to combine the copyright notation with the

main text, while retaining the difference in different font

styles. The " marble.gif " (looks like a <hr>) could be in-line

with the text to divide it.

All of this depends on how the page is created, meaning with

webpage editor or plain text coded.

- s

FAM Secret Society is a community based on respect, friendship, support and

acceptance. Everyone is valued.

Don't forget, there are links to other FAM sites on the Links page in the

folder marked " Other FAM Sites. "

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the info, Stan. Hope this is of any help to Tom.

The page was created with the Yahoo template. That's why it surprises me

that it doesn't work for some of us. You'd think they would have created a

template that will be readable to everyone?

Inger

> Those " position:absolute " work best with fixed size attributes

> like photos. They obviously block text, which changes according

> to web browser and the individual's font size selection.

>

> So what does one do about this?

Easy answer, although not complete:

Get rid of the " absolute " position on the <div> tags. The

exception is where the position cannot block text (unless the

text is excessively large).

The " incomplete " part of the answer is that the tables need to

be spaced apart so that the copyright part isn't too close to

the main text.

The idea is that the table divisions start to the right of the

three images (the FAM group logos). Then as text size changes,

the table divisions move.

It is also possible to combine the copyright notation with the

main text, while retaining the difference in different font

styles. The " marble.gif " (looks like a <hr>) could be in-line

with the text to divide it.

All of this depends on how the page is created, meaning with

webpage editor or plain text coded.

- s

FAM Secret Society is a community based on respect, friendship, support and

acceptance. Everyone is valued.

Don't forget, there are links to other FAM sites on the Links page in the

folder marked " Other FAM Sites. "

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the info, Stan. Hope this is of any help to Tom.

The page was created with the Yahoo template. That's why it surprises me

that it doesn't work for some of us. You'd think they would have created a

template that will be readable to everyone?

Inger

> Those " position:absolute " work best with fixed size attributes

> like photos. They obviously block text, which changes according

> to web browser and the individual's font size selection.

>

> So what does one do about this?

Easy answer, although not complete:

Get rid of the " absolute " position on the <div> tags. The

exception is where the position cannot block text (unless the

text is excessively large).

The " incomplete " part of the answer is that the tables need to

be spaced apart so that the copyright part isn't too close to

the main text.

The idea is that the table divisions start to the right of the

three images (the FAM group logos). Then as text size changes,

the table divisions move.

It is also possible to combine the copyright notation with the

main text, while retaining the difference in different font

styles. The " marble.gif " (looks like a <hr>) could be in-line

with the text to divide it.

All of this depends on how the page is created, meaning with

webpage editor or plain text coded.

- s

FAM Secret Society is a community based on respect, friendship, support and

acceptance. Everyone is valued.

Don't forget, there are links to other FAM sites on the Links page in the

folder marked " Other FAM Sites. "

[Guest guest]

Looks the same, as before. Don't worry about it. ( - ;Stan's Computer wrote:

> How do the pages look to the rest of you guys?> http://www.geocities.com/environmental1st2003/Main3.htmlThe problem is with the "div" tags which state "position:absolute".I also get the bottom "

" about 1 1/2 lines into the main text. I'm using Firefox 1.0.3. As to "changing the settings" my font size is smaller, but that's within the "DTD HTML 4.0" spec. I don't buy the following:> I had a computer tech support guy review my page construction> and he said THE number one reason people cannot read web pages> is because they have tampered with their personal settings.First, most people don't know how to change and recompile their settings and they don't edit code. They don't know how to edit registry settings They are *unable* to tamper with their settings.Second, adjustment of font size, etc. should affect... font size, etc. It could make text too small or large but should not change the alignment.So I did change the "position:absolute" division positions and they did move, but that didn't fix the problem. Here's why:As I adjusted text size, the text would still move relative to

the other text. The copyright and "marble.jpg" lines (look like

's when reading the page) would remain in place as the text walks over it.Those "position:absolute" work best with fixed size attributes like photos. They obviously block text, which changes according to web browser and the individual's font size selection.Incidentally, my font size is smaller than the browser default. The browser default would be worse.- s

[Guest guest]

Looks the same, as before. Don't worry about it. ( - ;Stan's Computer wrote:

> How do the pages look to the rest of you guys?> http://www.geocities.com/environmental1st2003/Main3.htmlThe problem is with the "div" tags which state "position:absolute".I also get the bottom "

" about 1 1/2 lines into the main text. I'm using Firefox 1.0.3. As to "changing the settings" my font size is smaller, but that's within the "DTD HTML 4.0" spec. I don't buy the following:> I had a computer tech support guy review my page construction> and he said THE number one reason people cannot read web pages> is because they have tampered with their personal settings.First, most people don't know how to change and recompile their settings and they don't edit code. They don't know how to edit registry settings They are *unable* to tamper with their settings.Second, adjustment of font size, etc. should affect... font size, etc. It could make text too small or large but should not change the alignment.So I did change the "position:absolute" division positions and they did move, but that didn't fix the problem. Here's why:As I adjusted text size, the text would still move relative to

the other text. The copyright and "marble.jpg" lines (look like

's when reading the page) would remain in place as the text walks over it.Those "position:absolute" work best with fixed size attributes like photos. They obviously block text, which changes according to web browser and the individual's font size selection.Incidentally, my font size is smaller than the browser default. The browser default would be worse.- s

[Guest guest]

Looks the same, as before. Don't worry about it. ( - ;Stan's Computer wrote:

> How do the pages look to the rest of you guys?> http://www.geocities.com/environmental1st2003/Main3.htmlThe problem is with the "div" tags which state "position:absolute".I also get the bottom "

" about 1 1/2 lines into the main text. I'm using Firefox 1.0.3. As to "changing the settings" my font size is smaller, but that's within the "DTD HTML 4.0" spec. I don't buy the following:> I had a computer tech support guy review my page construction> and he said THE number one reason people cannot read web pages> is because they have tampered with their personal settings.First, most people don't know how to change and recompile their settings and they don't edit code. They don't know how to edit registry settings They are *unable* to tamper with their settings.Second, adjustment of font size, etc. should affect... font size, etc. It could make text too small or large but should not change the alignment.So I did change the "position:absolute" division positions and they did move, but that didn't fix the problem. Here's why:As I adjusted text size, the text would still move relative to

the other text. The copyright and "marble.jpg" lines (look like

's when reading the page) would remain in place as the text walks over it.Those "position:absolute" work best with fixed size attributes like photos. They obviously block text, which changes according to web browser and the individual's font size selection.Incidentally, my font size is smaller than the browser default. The browser default would be worse.- s

[Guest guest]

More specifically, the " <div> " tags which include

" position:absolute " are probably okay for the top and left where

it is unlikely that text will come crashing through.

These " position:absolute " commands will not work following the

text because you cannot predict how a user will display the

text. So at that point, the positions of the elements must be

set to depend on the position of the previous element.

I would have guessed that the <table></table> tags would have

solved that problem, but apparently the " position:absolute "

command moves everything around. So the copyright paragragh

ends up following the <div position:absolute> tag, but the <div

position:absolute> tag is sometimes in the wrong place.

My html coding consists mostly of copying existing techniques,

with plain text coding (no web editor).

So most are simple. An elaborate example is in

http://www.scn.org/traffic/ (choose one of the " toward

Vancouver " links). In that series, I used tables to separate

the traffic sensor map from the camera images, and to separate

the camera images from the descriptive text. There are space

definitions within some of the tables, if I recall.

As far as I know, this remains the only traffic site which

combines a sensor map with a series of traffic cameras on a

travel route basis. (but I should look at Maricopa Cty.

(Phoenix) to see if they're doing it.)

- s

[Guest guest]

More specifically, the " <div> " tags which include

" position:absolute " are probably okay for the top and left where

it is unlikely that text will come crashing through.

These " position:absolute " commands will not work following the

text because you cannot predict how a user will display the

text. So at that point, the positions of the elements must be

set to depend on the position of the previous element.

I would have guessed that the <table></table> tags would have

solved that problem, but apparently the " position:absolute "

command moves everything around. So the copyright paragragh

ends up following the <div position:absolute> tag, but the <div

position:absolute> tag is sometimes in the wrong place.

My html coding consists mostly of copying existing techniques,

with plain text coding (no web editor).

So most are simple. An elaborate example is in

http://www.scn.org/traffic/ (choose one of the " toward

Vancouver " links). In that series, I used tables to separate

the traffic sensor map from the camera images, and to separate

the camera images from the descriptive text. There are space

definitions within some of the tables, if I recall.

As far as I know, this remains the only traffic site which

combines a sensor map with a series of traffic cameras on a

travel route basis. (but I should look at Maricopa Cty.

(Phoenix) to see if they're doing it.)

- s

[Guest guest]

> The page was created with the Yahoo template. That's why it

> surprises me that it doesn't work for some of us. You'd think

> they would have created a template that will be readable to

> everyone?

I think they have a hard time describing where the elements can

and can't be used successfully. Also most of the Geocities

pages have a more limited function.

[Guest guest]

> The page was created with the Yahoo template. That's why it

> surprises me that it doesn't work for some of us. You'd think

> they would have created a template that will be readable to

> everyone?

I think they have a hard time describing where the elements can

and can't be used successfully. Also most of the Geocities

pages have a more limited function.

[Guest guest]

> The page was created with the Yahoo template. That's why it

> surprises me that it doesn't work for some of us. You'd think

> they would have created a template that will be readable to

> everyone?

I think they have a hard time describing where the elements can

and can't be used successfully. Also most of the Geocities

pages have a more limited function.

[Guest guest]

The page looks fine to me :-) I am using Microsoft Internet Explorer

but not XP - I have heard there are problems with XP.

> :

> > Did you know when you click on that page that some of the words

are

superimposed? I noticed this once before when I was doing a web

search

on AS.

>

> Me too. What browser do you have? I have XP Internet Explorer. If I

change to override original settings and choose the smallest font

then

all text stays in place.

>

> How do the pages look to the rest of you guys?

> http://www.geocities.com/environmental1st2003/Main3.html

>

> Inger

[Guest guest]

The page looks fine to me :-) I am using Microsoft Internet Explorer

but not XP - I have heard there are problems with XP.

> :

> > Did you know when you click on that page that some of the words

are

superimposed? I noticed this once before when I was doing a web

search

on AS.

>

> Me too. What browser do you have? I have XP Internet Explorer. If I

change to override original settings and choose the smallest font

then

all text stays in place.

>

> How do the pages look to the rest of you guys?

> http://www.geocities.com/environmental1st2003/Main3.html

>

> Inger

[Guest guest]

The page looks fine to me :-) I am using Microsoft Internet Explorer

but not XP - I have heard there are problems with XP.

> :

> > Did you know when you click on that page that some of the words

are

superimposed? I noticed this once before when I was doing a web

search

on AS.

>

> Me too. What browser do you have? I have XP Internet Explorer. If I

change to override original settings and choose the smallest font

then

all text stays in place.

>

> How do the pages look to the rest of you guys?

> http://www.geocities.com/environmental1st2003/Main3.html

>

> Inger

[Guest guest]

My computing life has been improved vastly by XP, but I wouldn't

necessarily try to upgrade a computer with an earlier version of

Windows. XP appears to be much better when it's factory installed.

Ken

> > :

> > > Did you know when you click on that page that some of the words

> are

> superimposed? I noticed this once before when I was doing a web

> search

> on AS.

> >

> > Me too. What browser do you have? I have XP Internet Explorer. If I

> change to override original settings and choose the smallest font

> then

> all text stays in place.

> >

> > How do the pages look to the rest of you guys?

> > http://www.geocities.com/environmental1st2003/Main3.html

> >

> > Inger

[Guest guest]

My computing life has been improved vastly by XP, but I wouldn't

necessarily try to upgrade a computer with an earlier version of

Windows. XP appears to be much better when it's factory installed.

Ken

> > :

> > > Did you know when you click on that page that some of the words

> are

> superimposed? I noticed this once before when I was doing a web

> search

> on AS.

> >

> > Me too. What browser do you have? I have XP Internet Explorer. If I

> change to override original settings and choose the smallest font

> then

> all text stays in place.

> >

> > How do the pages look to the rest of you guys?

> > http://www.geocities.com/environmental1st2003/Main3.html

> >

> > Inger

[Guest guest]

My computing life has been improved vastly by XP, but I wouldn't

necessarily try to upgrade a computer with an earlier version of

Windows. XP appears to be much better when it's factory installed.

Ken

> > :

> > > Did you know when you click on that page that some of the words

> are

> superimposed? I noticed this once before when I was doing a web

> search

> on AS.

> >

> > Me too. What browser do you have? I have XP Internet Explorer. If I

> change to override original settings and choose the smallest font

> then

> all text stays in place.

> >

> > How do the pages look to the rest of you guys?

> > http://www.geocities.com/environmental1st2003/Main3.html

> >

> > Inger