Re: A Report from a Volunteer........

[Guest guest]

I can call and get verbal results if I identify myself but that would

be illegal.....protected by HIPPA.

Silvia

> > > The only person that can get the results from the

> > lab

> > > is the LayPerson that ordered the leb then and

> > only

> > > then can you get the results unless you signed a

> > > waver, and the your designated person can retrieve

> > > them for you. There is an exception, If You went

> > to an

> > > independant lab.

> > >

> > Well, I went to Quest Labs...they are all over the

> > place...

> >

> >

> >

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> > conversations. We hope you have found the support

> > you need with us.

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[Guest guest]

I can call and get verbal results if I identify myself but that would

be illegal.....protected by HIPPA.

Silvia

> > > The only person that can get the results from the

> > lab

> > > is the LayPerson that ordered the leb then and

> > only

> > > then can you get the results unless you signed a

> > > waver, and the your designated person can retrieve

> > > them for you. There is an exception, If You went

> > to an

> > > independant lab.

> > >

> > Well, I went to Quest Labs...they are all over the

> > place...

> >

> >

> >

> > It's a pleasure having you join in our

> > conversations. We hope you have found the support

> > you need with us.

> >

> > If you are using email for your posts, for easy

> > access to our group, just click the link--

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> >

> > Happy Posting

> >

> >

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[Guest guest]

Yes you can.....a patient can have several doctors. There's a place

on the lab slip where you can write who to send copies to....but the

doctors usually do not bother filling it out....and when the patient

comes in he says I just had lab done by such and such doctor....You

can call the lab and ask for them. I have done many times....with

the patient's permission, of course. If the lab says to get them

from whoever ordered them you can say the patient is here now and I

need them right away. They will ask you for ss#, date of birth and

date of service and if you know tha doctor's account number is even

easier. It is ridiculous to think that if a doctor is on vacation

and his office is closed, you wouldn't be able to get results

directly from the lab.

Silvia

Yes and quest

> > used to have a web site where you could

> > get your own lab results. But now it is extinct.I

> > challange anyone that can get lab results from other

> > than the one ordering them, where you may get a

> > copy,

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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> >

> >

> >

> > ---------------------------------

> > Yahoo! for Good

> > Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina

> > relief effort.

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> >

> >

>

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>

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[Guest guest]

Yes you can.....a patient can have several doctors. There's a place

on the lab slip where you can write who to send copies to....but the

doctors usually do not bother filling it out....and when the patient

comes in he says I just had lab done by such and such doctor....You

can call the lab and ask for them. I have done many times....with

the patient's permission, of course. If the lab says to get them

from whoever ordered them you can say the patient is here now and I

need them right away. They will ask you for ss#, date of birth and

date of service and if you know tha doctor's account number is even

easier. It is ridiculous to think that if a doctor is on vacation

and his office is closed, you wouldn't be able to get results

directly from the lab.

Silvia

Yes and quest

> > used to have a web site where you could

> > get your own lab results. But now it is extinct.I

> > challange anyone that can get lab results from other

> > than the one ordering them, where you may get a

> > copy,

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ---------------------------------

> > Yahoo! for Good

> > Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina

> > relief effort.

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

> __________________________________

> Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005

> http://mail.yahoo.com

[Guest guest]

Yes you can.....a patient can have several doctors. There's a place

on the lab slip where you can write who to send copies to....but the

doctors usually do not bother filling it out....and when the patient

comes in he says I just had lab done by such and such doctor....You

can call the lab and ask for them. I have done many times....with

the patient's permission, of course. If the lab says to get them

from whoever ordered them you can say the patient is here now and I

need them right away. They will ask you for ss#, date of birth and

date of service and if you know tha doctor's account number is even

easier. It is ridiculous to think that if a doctor is on vacation

and his office is closed, you wouldn't be able to get results

directly from the lab.

Silvia

Yes and quest

> > used to have a web site where you could

> > get your own lab results. But now it is extinct.I

> > challange anyone that can get lab results from other

> > than the one ordering them, where you may get a

> > copy,

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ---------------------------------

> > Yahoo! for Good

> > Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina

> > relief effort.

> >

> > [Non-text portions of this message have been

> > removed]

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

> __________________________________

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[Guest guest]

Cbert gets his too. Otherwise we would never hear from his " God

Doctor " .

Silvia

I think the point is making

is the there are probably disclosure

> laws that prevent the " legal " release of those results to anyone

but the

> one whom ordered them. Whether or not we can get them is of course

> another matter...it's a matter of getting it done, or acting like

FEMA

> and requiring a shipload of paperwork BEFORE anything

happens....I'm of

> the school of thought that I'm not going to wait...

> I'll be contacting the lab tomorrow...I'll let you guys know what

happens...

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> Yahoo! for Good

> Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Cbert gets his too. Otherwise we would never hear from his " God

Doctor " .

Silvia

I think the point is making

is the there are probably disclosure

> laws that prevent the " legal " release of those results to anyone

but the

> one whom ordered them. Whether or not we can get them is of course

> another matter...it's a matter of getting it done, or acting like

FEMA

> and requiring a shipload of paperwork BEFORE anything

happens....I'm of

> the school of thought that I'm not going to wait...

> I'll be contacting the lab tomorrow...I'll let you guys know what

happens...

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> Yahoo! for Good

> Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Cbert gets his too. Otherwise we would never hear from his " God

Doctor " .

Silvia

I think the point is making

is the there are probably disclosure

> laws that prevent the " legal " release of those results to anyone

but the

> one whom ordered them. Whether or not we can get them is of course

> another matter...it's a matter of getting it done, or acting like

FEMA

> and requiring a shipload of paperwork BEFORE anything

happens....I'm of

> the school of thought that I'm not going to wait...

> I'll be contacting the lab tomorrow...I'll let you guys know what

happens...

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> Yahoo! for Good

> Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear ebommi:

Our city (I live in CA) " adopted " 65 families that lost their homes

because of Katrina. Since our local community is about 50% Anglo,

50% Hispanic and very few Blacks, we worried about how our families

would feel moving across the country to live with people known for

playing golf all the time for Pete's sake! In fact, we worried so

much that we all had a meeting to discuss how we could make them feel

welcome. We asked the Marriott, who would be providing the lodging,

to house them in the townhouse complex instead of hotel rooms. This

way they have their own kitchens and a big play area for the

children.

We had a concert to get donations and the response from the community

was incredible. We also found schools for the children and made a

list of possible jobs ....and I thought of an add on the paper asking

people to donate cars they may have in their garage not being

used....we got many...the problem was getting them running

again....LOL...some had been sitting in the garage without being

touched for years! Thankfully, some of my patients who are

mechanics, (one owns a transmission shop), came to our rescue. I've

always said I raise very good patients....wow....I was so proud.

It was exciting meeting our 65 families....we were all there to

welcome them. We wanted them to see how different we all are so they

would know this was home. They were very quiet at the beggining....I

think they were shocked that we were so " huggy " ....LOL....but they

started to relax when they saw how well all our kids played

together...and they laughed when I couldn't keep their names

straight. As a matter of fact....we laughed alot....and we were

thanked so many times that I finally said no more thanks are

necessary.... their smiles were thanks enough.

We're not abandoning them now they're here...hell, no....our plan

goes way beyond that. We still have to show them around, go with

them to register the children in school, make sure the children get

caught up, find a pediatrician, (CA has low cost insurance for

children...we thought about that too)and on and on.

I am proud to say, that none of us did it for curiosity, but the

amount of warm fuzzies.....those will last us for a long, long

time.....oh....and by the way...our 65 families....we're not giving

them back....

Silvia

> > > >

> > > > To be honest I think I would feel the same way , I am shocked

to

> hear

> > > how

> > > > badly those in need treated you . I think you have every

right to be

> > > angry .

> > > > No matter what a persons situation is good manners should

always be

> > > shown to

> > > > those helping you , there is no excuse good enough to justify

> how you

> > > were

> > > > treated by these people .

> > > > A Report from a

Volunteer........

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > SO I VOLUNTEERED..........

> > > > Current mood: disappointed

> > > >

> > > > I thought I might inform the few friends I have on my recent

> > > > traumatic experience. I am going to tell it straight, blunt,

> raw, and

> > > > I don't give a damn. Long read, I know but please do read!!!

> > > >

> > > > I went to volunteer on Saturday at the R. Brown

> convention for

> > > > two reasons.

> > > >

> > > > A: I wanted to help people to get a warm fuzzy.

> > > >

> > > > B: Curiosity.

> > > >

> > > > I've been watching the news lately and have seen scenes that

have

> > > > made me want to vomit. And no it wasn't dead bodies, the city

under

> > > > water, or the sludge everywhere. It was PEOPLE " S BEHAVIOR. The

> people

> > > > on T.V. (99% being Black) where DEMANDING help. They were not

asking

> > > > nicely but demanding as if society owed these people

something. Well

> > > > the honest truth is WE DON'T. Help should be asked for in a

kind

> > > > manner and then appreciated. This is not what the press (FOX

in

> > > > particular) was showing, what I was seeing was a group of

people who

> > > > are yelling, demanding, looting, killing, raping, and

SHOOTING back

> > > > at the demanded help!!!!! So I'm thinking this can't possibly

be

> true

> > > > can it???? So I decide to submit to the DEMAND for help out of

> SHOCK.

> > > > I couldn't believe this to be true of the majority of the

people who

> > > > are the weakest of society. So I went to volunteer and help

> folks out

> > > > and see the truth. So I will tell the following story and you

> decide:

> > > >

> > > > I arrived at the astrodome only to find out that there are

too many

> > > > volunteers and that volunteers were needed at the R.

Brown

> > > > Convention Center. As I was walking up to the Convention

Center I

> > > > noticed a line of cars that wrapped around blocks filled with

> > > > donations. These were ordinary Houstonians coming with

> truckloads and

> > > > trunks full of water, diapers, clothes, blankets, food, all

types of

> > > > good stuff. And lots of it was NEW. I felt that warm fuzzy

while

> > > > helping unload these vehicles of these wonderful human

beings. I

> then

> > > > went inside the building and noticed approximately 100,000 sq.

> ft. of

> > > > clothes, shoes, jackets, toys and all types of goodies all

organized

> > > > and ready for the people in need. I signed up, received a

name badge

> > > > and was on my merry way excited to be useful.

> > > >

> > > > I toured the place to get familiar with my surrounding; the

entire

> > > > place is probably around 2 million sq. ft. I noticed rows as

far as

> > > > the eye can see of mattresses, not cots, BLOW UP MATTRESSES!!!

> All of

> > > > which had nice pillows and plenty of blankets. 2 to 3 bottles

of

> > > > water lay on every bed. These full size to queen size beds by

> the way

> > > > where comfortable, I laid in one to see for myself. I went to

> look at

> > > > the medical area. I couldn't believe what my eyes were

seeing!!! A

> > > > makeshift hospital created in 24 hours!!! It was

unbelievable, they

> > > > even had a pharmacy. I also noticed that they created

showers, which

> > > > would also have hot water. I went upstairs to the third floor

to

> find

> > > > a HUGE cafeteria created in under 24 hours! Rows of tables,

chairs

> > > > and food everywhere - enough to feed an army! I'm not talking

about

> > > > crap food either. They had 's deli food, apples,

oranges, coke,

> > > > diet coke, lemonade, orange juice, cookies, all types of

chips and

> > > > sandwiches. All the beverages by the way was put on ice and

> > > > chilled!!!! In a matter of about 24 hours or less an entire

> mini-city

> > > > was erected by volunteers for the poor evacuees. This was not

your

> > > > rundown crap shelter, it was BUM HEAVEN.

> > > >

> > > > So that was the layout: great food, comfy beds, clean

showers, free

> > > > medical help, by the way there was a library, and a theatre

room I

> > > > forgot to mention. Great stuff right????

> > > >

> > > > Well here is what happened on my journey -

> > > >

> > > > I started by handing out COLD water bottles to evacuees as

they got

> > > > off the bus. Many would take them and only 20% or less said

thank

> > > > you. Lots of them would shake their heads and ask for sodas!

So this

> > > > went on for about 20-30 minutes until I was sick of being an

> > > > unappreciated servant. I figured certainly these folks would

> > > > appreciate some food!!! So I went upstairs to serve these

beloved

> > > > evacuees some GOOD food that I wish I could have at the

moment!

> > > >

> > > > ***The following statements are graphic, truthful, and discuss

> > > > UNRATIONAL behavior***

> > > >

> > > > Evacuees come slowly to receive this mountain of food that is

worth

> > > > serving to a king! I tell them that we have 2 types of great

deli

> > > > sandwiches to choose from - ham and turkey. Many look at the

food in

> > > > disgust and DEMAND burgers, pizza, and even Mcs!!!!

's

> > > > deli is better than Mcs!!!! Only 1 out of ten people

who took

> > > > something would say " thank you " the rest took items as if it

was

> > > > their God give right to be served without a shred of

appreciation!!!

> > > > They would ask for Beer and liquor. They complained that we

didn't

> > > > have good enough food. They refused food and laughed at us.

They

> > > > treated us volunteers as if we where SLAVES. No not all of

them of

> > > > course...but 70% did!!!!!! 20! % where appreciative, 10% took

the

> > > > food without any comment and the other 70% had some disgusting

> > > > comment to say. Some had the nerve to laugh at us. And when I

> snapped

> > > > back at them for being mean, they would curse at me!!!

Needless to

> > > > say I was in utter shock. They would eat their food and leave

their

> > > > mess on the table... some would pick up their stuff many

would leave

> > > > it for the volunteers to pick up. I left that real quick to

go down

> > > > and help set up some more beds. I saw many young ladies

carrying

> > > > mattresses and I helped for a while. Then I realized

> > > > something...their were hundreds of able bodied young men who

could

> > > > help!! I asked a group of young evacuees in their teens and

early

> > > > twenties to help. I got cursed at for asking them to help!!!

One

> > > > said " We just lost our ****ing homes and you want us to

work!! " The

> > > > next said " Ya Cracker, you got a home we don't " I looked at

them in

> > > > disbelief. Here are women walking by carrying THEIR ****ING

BEDS and

> > > > they can't lift a finger and help themselves!!

> > > >

> > > > WHY THE **** SHOULD I HELP PEOPLE WHO DON'T WANT TO HELP

> > > > THEMESELVES!!!!

> > > >

> > > > I waved them off and turned away and was laughed at and

more " white

> > > > boy jokes " were made at me. I felt no need to waste my breath

on a

> > > > bunch of pitiful losers. I went to a nearby restroom where I

noticed

> > > > a man shaving. I used the restroom, washed my hands and saw

this man

> > > > throw his razor towards the trash can...he missed... he

walked out

> > > > leaving his disgusting razor on the floor for some other

> " cracker " to

> > > > pick up. Even the little kids were demanding. I saw only ONE

white

> > > > family and only TWO Hispanic families. The rest where

blacks...sorry

> > > > 20% to 30% decent blacks... and 70% LOSERS!!!!!

> > > >

> > > > I would call them ****ERS, but the actual definition of a

****er is

> > > > one who is ignorant, these people were not ignorant......they

where

> > > > ARROGANT ********. The majority of which are thugs and

lifetime lazy

> > > > ass welfare recipients. We are inviting the lowest of the low

to

> > > > Houston. And like idiots we are serving the people who will

soon

> > > > steal our cars, rape, murder, and destroy our city while

stealing

> > > > from our pockets on a daily basis through the welfare checks

they

> > > > take. We will fund our own destruction.

> > > >

> > > > By " US " I don't mean a specific race, I mean the people who

work

> > > > hard, work smart, have values and morals. Only people who

want to

> > > > help themselves should be helped, the others should be

allowed to

> > > > destroy themselves. I do not want to work hard, give the

government

> > > > close to half the money I earn so they can in turn give it to

a

> bunch

> > > > of losers.

> > > >

> > > > I don't believe in being poor for life. My family immigrated

> here, we

> > > > came here poor, and now thank God, and due to HARD WORK we

are doing

> > > > fine. If immigrants, who come here, don't know the language

can work

> > > > and become successful... WHY THE **** CAN'T THE MAJORITY OF

THE

> > > > HOMEGROWN DO IT!!! If we continue to reward these losers then

we

> will

> > > > soon destroy our great country. I just witnessed selfish,

arrogant,

> > > > unappreciative behavior by the very people who need help the

most.

> > > > Now these same people who cursed me, refused my cities

generosity,

> > > > who refuse to help themselves are DEMANDING handouts on their

own

> > > > terms!!!!!!! They prance around as if they are owed

something, and

> > > > when they do receive a handout, they say it's not good enough!

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > It's a pleasure having you join in our conversations. We hope

> you have

> > > > found the support you need with us.

> > > >

> > > > If you are using email for your posts, for easy access to our

group,

> > > just

> > > > click the link--

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Hepatitis_C_Central/

> > > >

> > > > Happy Posting

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Dear ebommi:

Our city (I live in CA) " adopted " 65 families that lost their homes

because of Katrina. Since our local community is about 50% Anglo,

50% Hispanic and very few Blacks, we worried about how our families

would feel moving across the country to live with people known for

playing golf all the time for Pete's sake! In fact, we worried so

much that we all had a meeting to discuss how we could make them feel

welcome. We asked the Marriott, who would be providing the lodging,

to house them in the townhouse complex instead of hotel rooms. This

way they have their own kitchens and a big play area for the

children.

We had a concert to get donations and the response from the community

was incredible. We also found schools for the children and made a

list of possible jobs ....and I thought of an add on the paper asking

people to donate cars they may have in their garage not being

used....we got many...the problem was getting them running

again....LOL...some had been sitting in the garage without being

touched for years! Thankfully, some of my patients who are

mechanics, (one owns a transmission shop), came to our rescue. I've

always said I raise very good patients....wow....I was so proud.

It was exciting meeting our 65 families....we were all there to

welcome them. We wanted them to see how different we all are so they

would know this was home. They were very quiet at the beggining....I

think they were shocked that we were so " huggy " ....LOL....but they

started to relax when they saw how well all our kids played

together...and they laughed when I couldn't keep their names

straight. As a matter of fact....we laughed alot....and we were

thanked so many times that I finally said no more thanks are

necessary.... their smiles were thanks enough.

We're not abandoning them now they're here...hell, no....our plan

goes way beyond that. We still have to show them around, go with

them to register the children in school, make sure the children get

caught up, find a pediatrician, (CA has low cost insurance for

children...we thought about that too)and on and on.

I am proud to say, that none of us did it for curiosity, but the

amount of warm fuzzies.....those will last us for a long, long

time.....oh....and by the way...our 65 families....we're not giving

them back....

Silvia

> > > >

> > > > To be honest I think I would feel the same way , I am shocked

to

> hear

> > > how

> > > > badly those in need treated you . I think you have every

right to be

> > > angry .

> > > > No matter what a persons situation is good manners should

always be

> > > shown to

> > > > those helping you , there is no excuse good enough to justify

> how you

> > > were

> > > > treated by these people .

> > > > A Report from a

Volunteer........

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > SO I VOLUNTEERED..........

> > > > Current mood: disappointed

> > > >

> > > > I thought I might inform the few friends I have on my recent

> > > > traumatic experience. I am going to tell it straight, blunt,

> raw, and

> > > > I don't give a damn. Long read, I know but please do read!!!

> > > >

> > > > I went to volunteer on Saturday at the R. Brown

> convention for

> > > > two reasons.

> > > >

> > > > A: I wanted to help people to get a warm fuzzy.

> > > >

> > > > B: Curiosity.

> > > >

> > > > I've been watching the news lately and have seen scenes that

have

> > > > made me want to vomit. And no it wasn't dead bodies, the city

under

> > > > water, or the sludge everywhere. It was PEOPLE " S BEHAVIOR. The

> people

> > > > on T.V. (99% being Black) where DEMANDING help. They were not

asking

> > > > nicely but demanding as if society owed these people

something. Well

> > > > the honest truth is WE DON'T. Help should be asked for in a

kind

> > > > manner and then appreciated. This is not what the press (FOX

in

> > > > particular) was showing, what I was seeing was a group of

people who

> > > > are yelling, demanding, looting, killing, raping, and

SHOOTING back

> > > > at the demanded help!!!!! So I'm thinking this can't possibly

be

> true

> > > > can it???? So I decide to submit to the DEMAND for help out of

> SHOCK.

> > > > I couldn't believe this to be true of the majority of the

people who

> > > > are the weakest of society. So I went to volunteer and help

> folks out

> > > > and see the truth. So I will tell the following story and you

> decide:

> > > >

> > > > I arrived at the astrodome only to find out that there are

too many

> > > > volunteers and that volunteers were needed at the R.

Brown

> > > > Convention Center. As I was walking up to the Convention

Center I

> > > > noticed a line of cars that wrapped around blocks filled with

> > > > donations. These were ordinary Houstonians coming with

> truckloads and

> > > > trunks full of water, diapers, clothes, blankets, food, all

types of

> > > > good stuff. And lots of it was NEW. I felt that warm fuzzy

while

> > > > helping unload these vehicles of these wonderful human

beings. I

> then

> > > > went inside the building and noticed approximately 100,000 sq.

> ft. of

> > > > clothes, shoes, jackets, toys and all types of goodies all

organized

> > > > and ready for the people in need. I signed up, received a

name badge

> > > > and was on my merry way excited to be useful.

> > > >

> > > > I toured the place to get familiar with my surrounding; the

entire

> > > > place is probably around 2 million sq. ft. I noticed rows as

far as

> > > > the eye can see of mattresses, not cots, BLOW UP MATTRESSES!!!

> All of

> > > > which had nice pillows and plenty of blankets. 2 to 3 bottles

of

> > > > water lay on every bed. These full size to queen size beds by

> the way

> > > > where comfortable, I laid in one to see for myself. I went to

> look at

> > > > the medical area. I couldn't believe what my eyes were

seeing!!! A

> > > > makeshift hospital created in 24 hours!!! It was

unbelievable, they

> > > > even had a pharmacy. I also noticed that they created

showers, which

> > > > would also have hot water. I went upstairs to the third floor

to

> find

> > > > a HUGE cafeteria created in under 24 hours! Rows of tables,

chairs

> > > > and food everywhere - enough to feed an army! I'm not talking

about

> > > > crap food either. They had 's deli food, apples,

oranges, coke,

> > > > diet coke, lemonade, orange juice, cookies, all types of

chips and

> > > > sandwiches. All the beverages by the way was put on ice and

> > > > chilled!!!! In a matter of about 24 hours or less an entire

> mini-city

> > > > was erected by volunteers for the poor evacuees. This was not

your

> > > > rundown crap shelter, it was BUM HEAVEN.

> > > >

> > > > So that was the layout: great food, comfy beds, clean

showers, free

> > > > medical help, by the way there was a library, and a theatre

room I

> > > > forgot to mention. Great stuff right????

> > > >

> > > > Well here is what happened on my journey -

> > > >

> > > > I started by handing out COLD water bottles to evacuees as

they got

> > > > off the bus. Many would take them and only 20% or less said

thank

> > > > you. Lots of them would shake their heads and ask for sodas!

So this

> > > > went on for about 20-30 minutes until I was sick of being an

> > > > unappreciated servant. I figured certainly these folks would

> > > > appreciate some food!!! So I went upstairs to serve these

beloved

> > > > evacuees some GOOD food that I wish I could have at the

moment!

> > > >

> > > > ***The following statements are graphic, truthful, and discuss

> > > > UNRATIONAL behavior***

> > > >

> > > > Evacuees come slowly to receive this mountain of food that is

worth

> > > > serving to a king! I tell them that we have 2 types of great

deli

> > > > sandwiches to choose from - ham and turkey. Many look at the

food in

> > > > disgust and DEMAND burgers, pizza, and even Mcs!!!!

's

> > > > deli is better than Mcs!!!! Only 1 out of ten people

who took

> > > > something would say " thank you " the rest took items as if it

was

> > > > their God give right to be served without a shred of

appreciation!!!

> > > > They would ask for Beer and liquor. They complained that we

didn't

> > > > have good enough food. They refused food and laughed at us.

They

> > > > treated us volunteers as if we where SLAVES. No not all of

them of

> > > > course...but 70% did!!!!!! 20! % where appreciative, 10% took

the

> > > > food without any comment and the other 70% had some disgusting

> > > > comment to say. Some had the nerve to laugh at us. And when I

> snapped

> > > > back at them for being mean, they would curse at me!!!

Needless to

> > > > say I was in utter shock. They would eat their food and leave

their

> > > > mess on the table... some would pick up their stuff many

would leave

> > > > it for the volunteers to pick up. I left that real quick to

go down

> > > > and help set up some more beds. I saw many young ladies

carrying

> > > > mattresses and I helped for a while. Then I realized

> > > > something...their were hundreds of able bodied young men who

could

> > > > help!! I asked a group of young evacuees in their teens and

early

> > > > twenties to help. I got cursed at for asking them to help!!!

One

> > > > said " We just lost our ****ing homes and you want us to

work!! " The

> > > > next said " Ya Cracker, you got a home we don't " I looked at

them in

> > > > disbelief. Here are women walking by carrying THEIR ****ING

BEDS and

> > > > they can't lift a finger and help themselves!!

> > > >

> > > > WHY THE **** SHOULD I HELP PEOPLE WHO DON'T WANT TO HELP

> > > > THEMESELVES!!!!

> > > >

> > > > I waved them off and turned away and was laughed at and

more " white

> > > > boy jokes " were made at me. I felt no need to waste my breath

on a

> > > > bunch of pitiful losers. I went to a nearby restroom where I

noticed

> > > > a man shaving. I used the restroom, washed my hands and saw

this man

> > > > throw his razor towards the trash can...he missed... he

walked out

> > > > leaving his disgusting razor on the floor for some other

> " cracker " to

> > > > pick up. Even the little kids were demanding. I saw only ONE

white

> > > > family and only TWO Hispanic families. The rest where

blacks...sorry

> > > > 20% to 30% decent blacks... and 70% LOSERS!!!!!

> > > >

> > > > I would call them ****ERS, but the actual definition of a

****er is

> > > > one who is ignorant, these people were not ignorant......they

where

> > > > ARROGANT ********. The majority of which are thugs and

lifetime lazy

> > > > ass welfare recipients. We are inviting the lowest of the low

to

> > > > Houston. And like idiots we are serving the people who will

soon

> > > > steal our cars, rape, murder, and destroy our city while

stealing

> > > > from our pockets on a daily basis through the welfare checks

they

> > > > take. We will fund our own destruction.

> > > >

> > > > By " US " I don't mean a specific race, I mean the people who

work

> > > > hard, work smart, have values and morals. Only people who

want to

> > > > help themselves should be helped, the others should be

allowed to

> > > > destroy themselves. I do not want to work hard, give the

government

> > > > close to half the money I earn so they can in turn give it to

a

> bunch

> > > > of losers.

> > > >

> > > > I don't believe in being poor for life. My family immigrated

> here, we

> > > > came here poor, and now thank God, and due to HARD WORK we

are doing

> > > > fine. If immigrants, who come here, don't know the language

can work

> > > > and become successful... WHY THE **** CAN'T THE MAJORITY OF

THE

> > > > HOMEGROWN DO IT!!! If we continue to reward these losers then

we

> will

> > > > soon destroy our great country. I just witnessed selfish,

arrogant,

> > > > unappreciative behavior by the very people who need help the

most.

> > > > Now these same people who cursed me, refused my cities

generosity,

> > > > who refuse to help themselves are DEMANDING handouts on their

own

> > > > terms!!!!!!! They prance around as if they are owed

something, and

> > > > when they do receive a handout, they say it's not good enough!

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > It's a pleasure having you join in our conversations. We hope

> you have

> > > > found the support you need with us.

> > > >

> > > > If you are using email for your posts, for easy access to our

group,

> > > just

> > > > click the link--

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Hepatitis_C_Central/

> > > >

> > > > Happy Posting

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

Dear ebommi:

Our city (I live in CA) " adopted " 65 families that lost their homes

because of Katrina. Since our local community is about 50% Anglo,

50% Hispanic and very few Blacks, we worried about how our families

would feel moving across the country to live with people known for

playing golf all the time for Pete's sake! In fact, we worried so

much that we all had a meeting to discuss how we could make them feel

welcome. We asked the Marriott, who would be providing the lodging,

to house them in the townhouse complex instead of hotel rooms. This

way they have their own kitchens and a big play area for the

children.

We had a concert to get donations and the response from the community

was incredible. We also found schools for the children and made a

list of possible jobs ....and I thought of an add on the paper asking

people to donate cars they may have in their garage not being

used....we got many...the problem was getting them running

again....LOL...some had been sitting in the garage without being

touched for years! Thankfully, some of my patients who are

mechanics, (one owns a transmission shop), came to our rescue. I've

always said I raise very good patients....wow....I was so proud.

It was exciting meeting our 65 families....we were all there to

welcome them. We wanted them to see how different we all are so they

would know this was home. They were very quiet at the beggining....I

think they were shocked that we were so " huggy " ....LOL....but they

started to relax when they saw how well all our kids played

together...and they laughed when I couldn't keep their names

straight. As a matter of fact....we laughed alot....and we were

thanked so many times that I finally said no more thanks are

necessary.... their smiles were thanks enough.

We're not abandoning them now they're here...hell, no....our plan

goes way beyond that. We still have to show them around, go with

them to register the children in school, make sure the children get

caught up, find a pediatrician, (CA has low cost insurance for

children...we thought about that too)and on and on.

I am proud to say, that none of us did it for curiosity, but the

amount of warm fuzzies.....those will last us for a long, long

time.....oh....and by the way...our 65 families....we're not giving

them back....

Silvia

> > > >

> > > > To be honest I think I would feel the same way , I am shocked

to

> hear

> > > how

> > > > badly those in need treated you . I think you have every

right to be

> > > angry .

> > > > No matter what a persons situation is good manners should

always be

> > > shown to

> > > > those helping you , there is no excuse good enough to justify

> how you

> > > were

> > > > treated by these people .

> > > > A Report from a

Volunteer........

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > SO I VOLUNTEERED..........

> > > > Current mood: disappointed

> > > >

> > > > I thought I might inform the few friends I have on my recent

> > > > traumatic experience. I am going to tell it straight, blunt,

> raw, and

> > > > I don't give a damn. Long read, I know but please do read!!!

> > > >

> > > > I went to volunteer on Saturday at the R. Brown

> convention for

> > > > two reasons.

> > > >

> > > > A: I wanted to help people to get a warm fuzzy.

> > > >

> > > > B: Curiosity.

> > > >

> > > > I've been watching the news lately and have seen scenes that

have

> > > > made me want to vomit. And no it wasn't dead bodies, the city

under

> > > > water, or the sludge everywhere. It was PEOPLE " S BEHAVIOR. The

> people

> > > > on T.V. (99% being Black) where DEMANDING help. They were not

asking

> > > > nicely but demanding as if society owed these people

something. Well

> > > > the honest truth is WE DON'T. Help should be asked for in a

kind

> > > > manner and then appreciated. This is not what the press (FOX

in

> > > > particular) was showing, what I was seeing was a group of

people who

> > > > are yelling, demanding, looting, killing, raping, and

SHOOTING back

> > > > at the demanded help!!!!! So I'm thinking this can't possibly

be

> true

> > > > can it???? So I decide to submit to the DEMAND for help out of

> SHOCK.

> > > > I couldn't believe this to be true of the majority of the

people who

> > > > are the weakest of society. So I went to volunteer and help

> folks out

> > > > and see the truth. So I will tell the following story and you

> decide:

> > > >

> > > > I arrived at the astrodome only to find out that there are

too many

> > > > volunteers and that volunteers were needed at the R.

Brown

> > > > Convention Center. As I was walking up to the Convention

Center I

> > > > noticed a line of cars that wrapped around blocks filled with

> > > > donations. These were ordinary Houstonians coming with

> truckloads and

> > > > trunks full of water, diapers, clothes, blankets, food, all

types of

> > > > good stuff. And lots of it was NEW. I felt that warm fuzzy

while

> > > > helping unload these vehicles of these wonderful human

beings. I

> then

> > > > went inside the building and noticed approximately 100,000 sq.

> ft. of

> > > > clothes, shoes, jackets, toys and all types of goodies all

organized

> > > > and ready for the people in need. I signed up, received a

name badge

> > > > and was on my merry way excited to be useful.

> > > >

> > > > I toured the place to get familiar with my surrounding; the

entire

> > > > place is probably around 2 million sq. ft. I noticed rows as

far as

> > > > the eye can see of mattresses, not cots, BLOW UP MATTRESSES!!!

> All of

> > > > which had nice pillows and plenty of blankets. 2 to 3 bottles

of

> > > > water lay on every bed. These full size to queen size beds by

> the way

> > > > where comfortable, I laid in one to see for myself. I went to

> look at

> > > > the medical area. I couldn't believe what my eyes were

seeing!!! A

> > > > makeshift hospital created in 24 hours!!! It was

unbelievable, they

> > > > even had a pharmacy. I also noticed that they created

showers, which

> > > > would also have hot water. I went upstairs to the third floor

to

> find

> > > > a HUGE cafeteria created in under 24 hours! Rows of tables,

chairs

> > > > and food everywhere - enough to feed an army! I'm not talking

about

> > > > crap food either. They had 's deli food, apples,

oranges, coke,

> > > > diet coke, lemonade, orange juice, cookies, all types of

chips and

> > > > sandwiches. All the beverages by the way was put on ice and

> > > > chilled!!!! In a matter of about 24 hours or less an entire

> mini-city

> > > > was erected by volunteers for the poor evacuees. This was not

your

> > > > rundown crap shelter, it was BUM HEAVEN.

> > > >

> > > > So that was the layout: great food, comfy beds, clean

showers, free

> > > > medical help, by the way there was a library, and a theatre

room I

> > > > forgot to mention. Great stuff right????

> > > >

> > > > Well here is what happened on my journey -

> > > >

> > > > I started by handing out COLD water bottles to evacuees as

they got

> > > > off the bus. Many would take them and only 20% or less said

thank

> > > > you. Lots of them would shake their heads and ask for sodas!

So this

> > > > went on for about 20-30 minutes until I was sick of being an

> > > > unappreciated servant. I figured certainly these folks would

> > > > appreciate some food!!! So I went upstairs to serve these

beloved

> > > > evacuees some GOOD food that I wish I could have at the

moment!

> > > >

> > > > ***The following statements are graphic, truthful, and discuss

> > > > UNRATIONAL behavior***

> > > >

> > > > Evacuees come slowly to receive this mountain of food that is

worth

> > > > serving to a king! I tell them that we have 2 types of great

deli

> > > > sandwiches to choose from - ham and turkey. Many look at the

food in

> > > > disgust and DEMAND burgers, pizza, and even Mcs!!!!

's

> > > > deli is better than Mcs!!!! Only 1 out of ten people

who took

> > > > something would say " thank you " the rest took items as if it

was

> > > > their God give right to be served without a shred of

appreciation!!!

> > > > They would ask for Beer and liquor. They complained that we

didn't

> > > > have good enough food. They refused food and laughed at us.

They

> > > > treated us volunteers as if we where SLAVES. No not all of

them of

> > > > course...but 70% did!!!!!! 20! % where appreciative, 10% took

the

> > > > food without any comment and the other 70% had some disgusting

> > > > comment to say. Some had the nerve to laugh at us. And when I

> snapped

> > > > back at them for being mean, they would curse at me!!!

Needless to

> > > > say I was in utter shock. They would eat their food and leave

their

> > > > mess on the table... some would pick up their stuff many

would leave

> > > > it for the volunteers to pick up. I left that real quick to

go down

> > > > and help set up some more beds. I saw many young ladies

carrying

> > > > mattresses and I helped for a while. Then I realized

> > > > something...their were hundreds of able bodied young men who

could

> > > > help!! I asked a group of young evacuees in their teens and

early

> > > > twenties to help. I got cursed at for asking them to help!!!

One

> > > > said " We just lost our ****ing homes and you want us to

work!! " The

> > > > next said " Ya Cracker, you got a home we don't " I looked at

them in

> > > > disbelief. Here are women walking by carrying THEIR ****ING

BEDS and

> > > > they can't lift a finger and help themselves!!

> > > >

> > > > WHY THE **** SHOULD I HELP PEOPLE WHO DON'T WANT TO HELP

> > > > THEMESELVES!!!!

> > > >

> > > > I waved them off and turned away and was laughed at and

more " white

> > > > boy jokes " were made at me. I felt no need to waste my breath

on a

> > > > bunch of pitiful losers. I went to a nearby restroom where I

noticed

> > > > a man shaving. I used the restroom, washed my hands and saw

this man

> > > > throw his razor towards the trash can...he missed... he

walked out

> > > > leaving his disgusting razor on the floor for some other

> " cracker " to

> > > > pick up. Even the little kids were demanding. I saw only ONE

white

> > > > family and only TWO Hispanic families. The rest where

blacks...sorry

> > > > 20% to 30% decent blacks... and 70% LOSERS!!!!!

> > > >

> > > > I would call them ****ERS, but the actual definition of a

****er is

> > > > one who is ignorant, these people were not ignorant......they

where

> > > > ARROGANT ********. The majority of which are thugs and

lifetime lazy

> > > > ass welfare recipients. We are inviting the lowest of the low

to

> > > > Houston. And like idiots we are serving the people who will

soon

> > > > steal our cars, rape, murder, and destroy our city while

stealing

> > > > from our pockets on a daily basis through the welfare checks

they

> > > > take. We will fund our own destruction.

> > > >

> > > > By " US " I don't mean a specific race, I mean the people who

work

> > > > hard, work smart, have values and morals. Only people who

want to

> > > > help themselves should be helped, the others should be

allowed to

> > > > destroy themselves. I do not want to work hard, give the

government

> > > > close to half the money I earn so they can in turn give it to

a

> bunch

> > > > of losers.

> > > >

> > > > I don't believe in being poor for life. My family immigrated

> here, we

> > > > came here poor, and now thank God, and due to HARD WORK we

are doing

> > > > fine. If immigrants, who come here, don't know the language

can work

> > > > and become successful... WHY THE **** CAN'T THE MAJORITY OF

THE

> > > > HOMEGROWN DO IT!!! If we continue to reward these losers then

we

> will

> > > > soon destroy our great country. I just witnessed selfish,

arrogant,

> > > > unappreciative behavior by the very people who need help the

most.

> > > > Now these same people who cursed me, refused my cities

generosity,

> > > > who refuse to help themselves are DEMANDING handouts on their

own

> > > > terms!!!!!!! They prance around as if they are owed

something, and

> > > > when they do receive a handout, they say it's not good enough!

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > It's a pleasure having you join in our conversations. We hope

> you have

> > > > found the support you need with us.

> > > >

> > > > If you are using email for your posts, for easy access to our

group,

> > > just

> > > > click the link--

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Hepatitis_C_Central/

> > > >

> > > > Happy Posting

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >