Re: Armour Increases weekly or every two weeks?

[Guest guest]

He actually wanted me to start right off at 1 1/2 grains a day but I

know my system would have rebelled. Dr. R. gave me a LOT of

information that day. If my brain wasn't so sluggish and if I could

think clearly, like in the good old days, I maybe could have

remembered what he said about building up the dose. I'm not really

supposed to call long distance from work. :-(

Hi everyone,

>

> I've been on the 45 mg Armour for almost a week now (30 mg am, 15

mg

> pm).> I've read where people should try upping their Armour dose 15

mg weekly, and I've also read they should wait two weeks before an

> increase. What do you all recommend? Thanks.

>

>

[Guest guest]

He actually wanted me to start right off at 1 1/2 grains a day but I

know my system would have rebelled. Dr. R. gave me a LOT of

information that day. If my brain wasn't so sluggish and if I could

think clearly, like in the good old days, I maybe could have

remembered what he said about building up the dose. I'm not really

supposed to call long distance from work. :-(

Hi everyone,

>

> I've been on the 45 mg Armour for almost a week now (30 mg am, 15

mg

> pm).> I've read where people should try upping their Armour dose 15

mg weekly, and I've also read they should wait two weeks before an

> increase. What do you all recommend? Thanks.

>

>

[Guest guest]

If you have a history of sensitivity to thyroid meds, then go slow,

but time it so that you are on a stable dose for six weeks before

your next blood work.

Did he put you on hydrocortisone, progesterone or DHEA? If so, you

may be able to tolerate larger doses of thyroid meds than you did

before, but don't push it. That is one of the effects of his hormone

protocol.

OINK!

jan nathan

[Guest guest]

If you have a history of sensitivity to thyroid meds, then go slow,

but time it so that you are on a stable dose for six weeks before

your next blood work.

Did he put you on hydrocortisone, progesterone or DHEA? If so, you

may be able to tolerate larger doses of thyroid meds than you did

before, but don't push it. That is one of the effects of his hormone

protocol.

OINK!

jan nathan

[Guest guest]

Thank you, Jan. Actually, he recommended 3 months on 90 mg before

testing again. IF I can get that high! He put me on DHEA as well (5

mg twice a day) but I really need to figure out a way to call his

office. It just feels like too much (DHEA) and I don't think I can

take that much, at least maybe not to begin with. Or, it takes time

to get used to? And, I feel a little resistance to the 45 mg Armour

after a week also. Or, maybe I need to increase the Armour, since

I've read that hypo symptoms can sometimes feel like hyper. Or, I'm

having trouble with it without adrenal support. I just don't know!

I want this to work so badly! Thanks for letting me worry out

loud ... I'm sure you're right about going slow.

> If you have a history of sensitivity to thyroid meds, then go slow,

> but time it so that you are on a stable dose for six weeks before

> your next blood work.

>

> Did he put you on hydrocortisone, progesterone or DHEA? If so, you

> may be able to tolerate larger doses of thyroid meds than you did

> before, but don't push it. That is one of the effects of his

hormone

> protocol.

>

> OINK!

>

> jan nathan

[Guest guest]

Thank you, Jan. Actually, he recommended 3 months on 90 mg before

testing again. IF I can get that high! He put me on DHEA as well (5

mg twice a day) but I really need to figure out a way to call his

office. It just feels like too much (DHEA) and I don't think I can

take that much, at least maybe not to begin with. Or, it takes time

to get used to? And, I feel a little resistance to the 45 mg Armour

after a week also. Or, maybe I need to increase the Armour, since

I've read that hypo symptoms can sometimes feel like hyper. Or, I'm

having trouble with it without adrenal support. I just don't know!

I want this to work so badly! Thanks for letting me worry out

loud ... I'm sure you're right about going slow.

> If you have a history of sensitivity to thyroid meds, then go slow,

> but time it so that you are on a stable dose for six weeks before

> your next blood work.

>

> Did he put you on hydrocortisone, progesterone or DHEA? If so, you

> may be able to tolerate larger doses of thyroid meds than you did

> before, but don't push it. That is one of the effects of his

hormone

> protocol.

>

> OINK!

>

> jan nathan

[Guest guest]

Hi, Ben,

I'm sure you're right but I've been a little sensitive to drugs

ever since I can remember. Especially since a year ago last spring.

I was doing great on Levoxyl & Cytomel and all of a sudden wham, many

health things happened to me all at once and for some reason I could

not tolerate an appropriate level of thyroid meds anymore. Have been

hypo since, not being able to get to an optimal dose. I think

adrenal support will be essential for me while I tackle Armor. At

least for awhile. I did get ahold of the doctor's office and they

said to go every other day for a week with the DHEA, then every day

for a week, then twice a day. Build up gradually I guess.

I was starting to feel more energy and better moods returning when I

first started the Armour. But when I take the DHEA I feel irritable,

moody, angry, can't think straight, and it hurts my stomach. I know

it's a low dose but has anyone else experienced those things, or is

it just my sensitive system? Do you think I should ask the doctor

about 1), 3) and 4)? But I'm sure he would have recommended them if

he thought I needed them. Did you do a lot of adrenal support in

order to regain your health?

Thanks and I hope your Mom is doing better~

> ,

>

> I think 5 mg's of DHEA is a really low dose. In order of strength,

I mean for treating adrenals. I just told some lady on another site,

I thought for adrenals it probably went 1)adrenal glandular

supplement of some kind. 2) DHEA (like 25 mgs or so) 3)Isocort 4)

cortisone. Maybe you just need an adrenal glandular supplement? Or

the DHEA every other day? Or just the 5 mgs split into 2.5 twice/day?

>

> Tinker with it. It's not all or nothing. I just think a lot of

this stuff is the " one day you're not on it, then one day you are "

factor. It's just a shock to have this " stuff " in there that wasn't

before? Just slowly add a little here and there, until you get

acclamated. I'll bet once you system adjust you can take way more

just fine.

>

> Ben

>

[Guest guest]

Hi, Ben,

I'm sure you're right but I've been a little sensitive to drugs

ever since I can remember. Especially since a year ago last spring.

I was doing great on Levoxyl & Cytomel and all of a sudden wham, many

health things happened to me all at once and for some reason I could

not tolerate an appropriate level of thyroid meds anymore. Have been

hypo since, not being able to get to an optimal dose. I think

adrenal support will be essential for me while I tackle Armor. At

least for awhile. I did get ahold of the doctor's office and they

said to go every other day for a week with the DHEA, then every day

for a week, then twice a day. Build up gradually I guess.

I was starting to feel more energy and better moods returning when I

first started the Armour. But when I take the DHEA I feel irritable,

moody, angry, can't think straight, and it hurts my stomach. I know

it's a low dose but has anyone else experienced those things, or is

it just my sensitive system? Do you think I should ask the doctor

about 1), 3) and 4)? But I'm sure he would have recommended them if

he thought I needed them. Did you do a lot of adrenal support in

order to regain your health?

Thanks and I hope your Mom is doing better~

> ,

>

> I think 5 mg's of DHEA is a really low dose. In order of strength,

I mean for treating adrenals. I just told some lady on another site,

I thought for adrenals it probably went 1)adrenal glandular

supplement of some kind. 2) DHEA (like 25 mgs or so) 3)Isocort 4)

cortisone. Maybe you just need an adrenal glandular supplement? Or

the DHEA every other day? Or just the 5 mgs split into 2.5 twice/day?

>

> Tinker with it. It's not all or nothing. I just think a lot of

this stuff is the " one day you're not on it, then one day you are "

factor. It's just a shock to have this " stuff " in there that wasn't

before? Just slowly add a little here and there, until you get

acclamated. I'll bet once you system adjust you can take way more

just fine.

>

> Ben

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for sharing, Ben. I'm glad things are going a lot better for

you healthwise, now. Do you still take the cortisone, or did you

discontinue it after you got your Armour up to the appropriate

level? I'm going to wait and ask Dr. about cortisone before

I do anything. My blood a.m. cortisol level the morning they tested

me was 22, range 7-25. I expected the opposite since a saliva test

my GP ordered had borderline low results all day long, (dropping

lower as the day went on).

I've read Adrenal Fatigue and it sounds just like me. I even took

their test. I've had extreme stress the last couple of years,

chronic pain for 3 or 4 years, two surgeries last year, and other

medical procedures. I've been wanting to buy Safe uses of Cortisol --

maybe I'll order a copy from amazon. I guess the best thing for me

to do for now is wait and see how it goes trying to get the Armour up

to 90 mg, try to keep taking the DHEA, and go from there. Thank you

for all the great info. I'll print it out and save it! ~ PS

Just out of curiosity, how high were you able to get on the Armour

without cortisone support? And how high with???

> ,

>

> That's sorta how it went for me, armour wise. For several months I

improved, but then backslid a little. I could never take enough

armour to induce palpitations, the back off a little as some

suggest. I just think it's a " cellular level " thing. Without

adequate cortisone, your thyroid meds just sorta work.

>

> Two ladies on another thyroid group are big cortisone advocates,

and seem really well informed. They had me take 5 mgs of cortisone 4

X day, and it was an armour-caliber response for me. I've had some

profoundly stressful and tragic experiences, plus this excessive

training regimine nowadays, so that adrenal fatigue sounded

like " thyroid symptoms revelations " do to hypothyroid sufferers. I

think it helped me as much as the armour did. It's really

inexpensive, can be bought at most the no perscription armour places,

and certainly worth a try. myrxforless.com has it I believe, and

I've had good luck with them. It's called cortef, hydrocortisone,

cortisone acetate, but they're all the same. Get 20 mgs pills and

they're scored to break. I read Adrenal Fatigue, and Safe Uses of

Cortisone, and they're excellent, I thought.

>

> I'll bet a high percentage of hypothyroid sufferers have adrenal

fatigue, just from the system-wide stress put on you by a thyroid

condition. And if you've been sufferiung with it for a long time,

like almost everybody has, I think adrenals is most likely going to

have to be addressed to feel really well.

>

> Ben

>