Guest guest Posted October 12, 2005 Report Share Posted October 12, 2005 Whenever you go threoug a transplant, your immune system is combketle destroyed. You don't need to introduce another Genotype,hence another form of virus, to attack youe boy. Bill --- Ric wrote: > > and here's another question. are you sure that the > same genotype > is 1 of the requirements of an HCV donatable liver. > I asked my > Dr. Everson about cross contamination of genotypes. > I wanted to > know if it's possible to have more than 1 geno? He > said yes and > he didn't think based on current knowledge that it > would mean > much as it relates to the to the patient. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2005 Report Share Posted October 12, 2005 Whenever you go threoug a transplant, your immune system is combketle destroyed. You don't need to introduce another Genotype,hence another form of virus, to attack youe boy. Bill --- Ric wrote: > > and here's another question. are you sure that the > same genotype > is 1 of the requirements of an HCV donatable liver. > I asked my > Dr. Everson about cross contamination of genotypes. > I wanted to > know if it's possible to have more than 1 geno? He > said yes and > he didn't think based on current knowledge that it > would mean > much as it relates to the to the patient. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2005 Report Share Posted October 12, 2005 Whenever you go threoug a transplant, your immune system is combketle destroyed. You don't need to introduce another Genotype,hence another form of virus, to attack youe boy. Bill --- Ric wrote: > > and here's another question. are you sure that the > same genotype > is 1 of the requirements of an HCV donatable liver. > I asked my > Dr. Everson about cross contamination of genotypes. > I wanted to > know if it's possible to have more than 1 geno? He > said yes and > he didn't think based on current knowledge that it > would mean > much as it relates to the to the patient. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2005 Report Share Posted October 12, 2005 I think were on the same page but reading a different book Mr. . I don't want to take the time to explain to you why we are talking about different things. re read the posts and maybe you will see...ric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2005 Report Share Posted October 12, 2005 I think were on the same page but reading a different book Mr. . I don't want to take the time to explain to you why we are talking about different things. re read the posts and maybe you will see...ric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2005 Report Share Posted October 12, 2005 I think were on the same page but reading a different book Mr. . I don't want to take the time to explain to you why we are talking about different things. re read the posts and maybe you will see...ric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2005 Report Share Posted October 12, 2005 Ric, you are not stupid.. I am glad that we are having this discussion so that maybe you will read up on it and help others that are faced with the same Dilems. You seem to be very concerned and involved with HepC and a Dragon Warrior needs all the information that he or she can get. Keep up the good work. Bill --- Ric wrote: > and just what makes you so sure that half a donated > liver with > HCV will regenerate at all? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2005 Report Share Posted October 12, 2005 Ric, you are not stupid.. I am glad that we are having this discussion so that maybe you will read up on it and help others that are faced with the same Dilems. You seem to be very concerned and involved with HepC and a Dragon Warrior needs all the information that he or she can get. Keep up the good work. Bill --- Ric wrote: > and just what makes you so sure that half a donated > liver with > HCV will regenerate at all? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2005 Report Share Posted October 12, 2005 Ric, you are not stupid.. I am glad that we are having this discussion so that maybe you will read up on it and help others that are faced with the same Dilems. You seem to be very concerned and involved with HepC and a Dragon Warrior needs all the information that he or she can get. Keep up the good work. Bill --- Ric wrote: > and just what makes you so sure that half a donated > liver with > HCV will regenerate at all? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2005 Report Share Posted October 12, 2005 you will kindly stop telling me then that I don't know what I'm talking about. It is very true some days I am confused. But I am perfectly aware of the regerative properties of the liver. My question was.....Will a diseased half liver regenerate at the same rate as a healthy one? and will it regerate at all? considering it would be put into a person who already has a viral load and other health problems. remember he needed a liver I know they are putting cadaver HCV+ livers into transplantees. But WHY would they have a live donor liver thats HCV+ in the first place? I ASSume the donor is still alive?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2005 Report Share Posted October 12, 2005 you will kindly stop telling me then that I don't know what I'm talking about. It is very true some days I am confused. But I am perfectly aware of the regerative properties of the liver. My question was.....Will a diseased half liver regenerate at the same rate as a healthy one? and will it regerate at all? considering it would be put into a person who already has a viral load and other health problems. remember he needed a liver I know they are putting cadaver HCV+ livers into transplantees. But WHY would they have a live donor liver thats HCV+ in the first place? I ASSume the donor is still alive?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2005 Report Share Posted October 12, 2005 you will kindly stop telling me then that I don't know what I'm talking about. It is very true some days I am confused. But I am perfectly aware of the regerative properties of the liver. My question was.....Will a diseased half liver regenerate at the same rate as a healthy one? and will it regerate at all? considering it would be put into a person who already has a viral load and other health problems. remember he needed a liver I know they are putting cadaver HCV+ livers into transplantees. But WHY would they have a live donor liver thats HCV+ in the first place? I ASSume the donor is still alive?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2005 Report Share Posted October 12, 2005 I believe its been shown that an actively infected and damaged HCV liver does NOT regrow. Or they'd just lop off sections to regen healthy tissues. Sal Re: I Really Need Help With This One? Two halves will regenerate making a whole liver. A lizards tail grows back whenever it is shed doesn't it.Usually when it grows bacslower in the one that donated than it des in the one that received. I can't believe that you had never heard if it,Try an " Ask Jeeves search about it. It is really cool.....Bill --- Ric wrote: > and just what makes you so sure that half a donated > liver with > HCV will regenerate at all? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited/ It's a pleasure having you join in our conversations. We hope you have found the support you need with us. If you are using email for your posts, for easy access to our group, just click the link-- http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Hepatitis_C_Central/ Happy Posting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2005 Report Share Posted October 12, 2005 I believe its been shown that an actively infected and damaged HCV liver does NOT regrow. Or they'd just lop off sections to regen healthy tissues. Sal Re: I Really Need Help With This One? Two halves will regenerate making a whole liver. A lizards tail grows back whenever it is shed doesn't it.Usually when it grows bacslower in the one that donated than it des in the one that received. I can't believe that you had never heard if it,Try an " Ask Jeeves search about it. It is really cool.....Bill --- Ric wrote: > and just what makes you so sure that half a donated > liver with > HCV will regenerate at all? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited/ It's a pleasure having you join in our conversations. We hope you have found the support you need with us. If you are using email for your posts, for easy access to our group, just click the link-- http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Hepatitis_C_Central/ Happy Posting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2005 Report Share Posted October 12, 2005 I believe its been shown that an actively infected and damaged HCV liver does NOT regrow. Or they'd just lop off sections to regen healthy tissues. Sal Re: I Really Need Help With This One? Two halves will regenerate making a whole liver. A lizards tail grows back whenever it is shed doesn't it.Usually when it grows bacslower in the one that donated than it des in the one that received. I can't believe that you had never heard if it,Try an " Ask Jeeves search about it. It is really cool.....Bill --- Ric wrote: > and just what makes you so sure that half a donated > liver with > HCV will regenerate at all? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________ Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited/ It's a pleasure having you join in our conversations. We hope you have found the support you need with us. If you are using email for your posts, for easy access to our group, just click the link-- http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Hepatitis_C_Central/ Happy Posting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2005 Report Share Posted October 13, 2005 hon Dont second guess your decision,, you made it, its gone, now look forward to the next call you are going to get and then you will have a new liver! Hang in there and stay positive! hugs jax wrote: I need to know something, I am at the top of the transplant list and just received a call from s Hopkins... That there was a live donor and that the liver was infected with HEP-C, they wanted to know if I wanted it.. I am sick and really want to get this over with BUT why would they transplant a liver already infected? Should I have taken the liver? This really has me worried, it caught me way off guard. Now I am second guessing my decision to turn it down Thanks for any help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2005 Report Share Posted October 13, 2005 hon Dont second guess your decision,, you made it, its gone, now look forward to the next call you are going to get and then you will have a new liver! Hang in there and stay positive! hugs jax wrote: I need to know something, I am at the top of the transplant list and just received a call from s Hopkins... That there was a live donor and that the liver was infected with HEP-C, they wanted to know if I wanted it.. I am sick and really want to get this over with BUT why would they transplant a liver already infected? Should I have taken the liver? This really has me worried, it caught me way off guard. Now I am second guessing my decision to turn it down Thanks for any help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2005 Report Share Posted October 13, 2005 hon Dont second guess your decision,, you made it, its gone, now look forward to the next call you are going to get and then you will have a new liver! Hang in there and stay positive! hugs jax wrote: I need to know something, I am at the top of the transplant list and just received a call from s Hopkins... That there was a live donor and that the liver was infected with HEP-C, they wanted to know if I wanted it.. I am sick and really want to get this over with BUT why would they transplant a liver already infected? Should I have taken the liver? This really has me worried, it caught me way off guard. Now I am second guessing my decision to turn it down Thanks for any help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2005 Report Share Posted October 13, 2005 Thank You I have been really going up and down over this, It would be easier if someone else could make these decisions, I am already confused, sick, and just want it to end......... I have more questions now to confuse me more........ Thanks Again -- Re: I Really Need Help With This One? hon Dont second guess your decision,, you made it, its gone, now look forward to the next call you are going to get and then you will have a new liver! Hang in there and stay positive! hugs jax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2005 Report Share Posted October 13, 2005 Thank You I have been really going up and down over this, It would be easier if someone else could make these decisions, I am already confused, sick, and just want it to end......... I have more questions now to confuse me more........ Thanks Again -- Re: I Really Need Help With This One? hon Dont second guess your decision,, you made it, its gone, now look forward to the next call you are going to get and then you will have a new liver! Hang in there and stay positive! hugs jax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2005 Report Share Posted October 13, 2005 Thank You I have been really going up and down over this, It would be easier if someone else could make these decisions, I am already confused, sick, and just want it to end......... I have more questions now to confuse me more........ Thanks Again -- Re: I Really Need Help With This One? hon Dont second guess your decision,, you made it, its gone, now look forward to the next call you are going to get and then you will have a new liver! Hang in there and stay positive! hugs jax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2005 Report Share Posted October 13, 2005 If you have active HepC, that means you will have to go on treatment as soon as you get over your transplant. Think positive and you will make it through it OK. My prayers are with you my friend....Bill --- wrote: > I just talked to the doctor, > He said I have Active HEP-C, > No matter what liver I get, it with Get\Have Hep-C, > Wether it's Hep-C clean or not, > What they do is transplant ONLY the clean tissue, > I have cirrhosis now, the new one will not have > cirrhosis, or they will cut > it off, before transplant...... > > Please forgive my typing skills, they are very > limited.... > I am trying to word this with as few words as > possible > > Thanks for everyone's input it has made me do some > resource > > > -- Re: I Really Need > Help With This One? > > , > Trust me. It gets a whole lot better. I know from > experience that the confusion and depression can > take > a toll on you at times, but if you can look at each > day as one small battle rather than trying to > picture > it as one big war it helps. Bill (2 yrs post tx and > undetectable) > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > __________________________________ Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2005 Report Share Posted October 13, 2005 If you have active HepC, that means you will have to go on treatment as soon as you get over your transplant. Think positive and you will make it through it OK. My prayers are with you my friend....Bill --- wrote: > I just talked to the doctor, > He said I have Active HEP-C, > No matter what liver I get, it with Get\Have Hep-C, > Wether it's Hep-C clean or not, > What they do is transplant ONLY the clean tissue, > I have cirrhosis now, the new one will not have > cirrhosis, or they will cut > it off, before transplant...... > > Please forgive my typing skills, they are very > limited.... > I am trying to word this with as few words as > possible > > Thanks for everyone's input it has made me do some > resource > > > -- Re: I Really Need > Help With This One? > > , > Trust me. It gets a whole lot better. I know from > experience that the confusion and depression can > take > a toll on you at times, but if you can look at each > day as one small battle rather than trying to > picture > it as one big war it helps. Bill (2 yrs post tx and > undetectable) > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > __________________________________ Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2005 Report Share Posted October 13, 2005 If you have active HepC, that means you will have to go on treatment as soon as you get over your transplant. Think positive and you will make it through it OK. My prayers are with you my friend....Bill --- wrote: > I just talked to the doctor, > He said I have Active HEP-C, > No matter what liver I get, it with Get\Have Hep-C, > Wether it's Hep-C clean or not, > What they do is transplant ONLY the clean tissue, > I have cirrhosis now, the new one will not have > cirrhosis, or they will cut > it off, before transplant...... > > Please forgive my typing skills, they are very > limited.... > I am trying to word this with as few words as > possible > > Thanks for everyone's input it has made me do some > resource > > > -- Re: I Really Need > Help With This One? > > , > Trust me. It gets a whole lot better. I know from > experience that the confusion and depression can > take > a toll on you at times, but if you can look at each > day as one small battle rather than trying to > picture > it as one big war it helps. Bill (2 yrs post tx and > undetectable) > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > __________________________________ Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. Try it free. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 13, 2005 Report Share Posted October 13, 2005 You know...I was just reading that part over and thinking....NO WAY! It couldn't have been a live donor.....because they remove one THIRD of the liver if it's a live donor....and on someone who has been ill for a long time, many times a third of a liver is deemed to be insufficient....they feel that a whole liver will give you the best chance. So a third of an infected liver? No way.... Silvia > > > yes all well and good but tell me how a person with HCV can be a > live donor? I assume this person wants to donate Half his liver? > Does this person want to hasten their own death? What stage > damage is the donor liver? what even slight chance would the > donor have to survive? Did I read it right? ric > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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