Guest guest Posted September 13, 2003 Report Share Posted September 13, 2003 That is a very good idea! Nola -- religion I read the main page. There are many people in this group. This is a wonderful group. Out of respect for any one who may not believe in G-d or is Jewish could we make the subject say religious in case someone is offended or doesn't want to read religion. Thanks, ine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2003 Report Share Posted September 20, 2003 ine, sometimes a good cry is just what we each need. Be sure you have some kleenex handy! Try to get a good nights sleep or at least a better night's sleep, and we will talk to you tomorrow. Hang in there! PJ ine Tague wrote:If I was living under a bridge-I'd be dead. But I do appreciate what I have. The Lord doesn't give us more than we can handle. I was raped. Ended up in a psy ward. I just don't agree with that comment. But you are entitled to your feeling and beliefs. And I do realize that there are people in the world who have been through much more than me and are successful. That is what is frightening. I'm 52 years and feel i've failed. It's a bad night. I'm just going to have a good cry. Don't mean to take it out on anyone. You have all been very good to me and I appreciate it. ine Kassandra Viscovich wrote:ine, The Lord doesn't test us so we can fail; He is not that cruel. We are tested so we can grow. One thing church taught me as a child, and it is one thing that I've held onto all these years, is that we are never given a challenge bigger than what we can handle. Every bad or stressful thing that occurs is something we will overcome if we remember that we are so loved by the Lord ( ;-) insert diety of choice) that He will never cause us to fail. We will succeed if only we believe in ourself. The Lord already does that, so now it's up to us to join in on that thought. Just remember when you go through something and can't seem to escape the thought that you will fail, just remember " This too shall pass. " You've overcome much worse in the past, so how can this be worse than that? Besides, if you're still alive, and you're not living under a bridge things can't possibly be *that* bad. (( hugs )) ~ Kassandra > God brings men into deep waters not to drown them, but to cleanse them. > > - Aughey > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2003 Report Share Posted September 20, 2003 ine, sometimes a good cry is just what we each need. Be sure you have some kleenex handy! Try to get a good nights sleep or at least a better night's sleep, and we will talk to you tomorrow. Hang in there! PJ ine Tague wrote:If I was living under a bridge-I'd be dead. But I do appreciate what I have. The Lord doesn't give us more than we can handle. I was raped. Ended up in a psy ward. I just don't agree with that comment. But you are entitled to your feeling and beliefs. And I do realize that there are people in the world who have been through much more than me and are successful. That is what is frightening. I'm 52 years and feel i've failed. It's a bad night. I'm just going to have a good cry. Don't mean to take it out on anyone. You have all been very good to me and I appreciate it. ine Kassandra Viscovich wrote:ine, The Lord doesn't test us so we can fail; He is not that cruel. We are tested so we can grow. One thing church taught me as a child, and it is one thing that I've held onto all these years, is that we are never given a challenge bigger than what we can handle. Every bad or stressful thing that occurs is something we will overcome if we remember that we are so loved by the Lord ( ;-) insert diety of choice) that He will never cause us to fail. We will succeed if only we believe in ourself. The Lord already does that, so now it's up to us to join in on that thought. Just remember when you go through something and can't seem to escape the thought that you will fail, just remember " This too shall pass. " You've overcome much worse in the past, so how can this be worse than that? Besides, if you're still alive, and you're not living under a bridge things can't possibly be *that* bad. (( hugs )) ~ Kassandra > God brings men into deep waters not to drown them, but to cleanse them. > > - Aughey > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2003 Report Share Posted September 20, 2003 Kassandra, thanks for sharing again! You had some excellent comments and suggestions! Many women and perhaps men, have been through abuse and it is hard to get over it, and get on with life. But, that is our challenge. I support you in getting it together again (after going through something like that). Have a great weekend! Many Hugs, PJ Kassandra Viscovich wrote: ine, I was raped too. I understand. Really I do. But you know what...and you probably don't want to hear this is by continuing to play the victim, the martyr, the rapist wins. He always will, and he continues to rape you each and every day that you feel bad about yourself. I know this from first hand experience. Did I go into a psych ward from my rape, no but in all honesty I should have. What I did was feel sorry for myself, and let men continue to abuse me and use me because that is what I believed should happen to me. Then I woke up. I realized I did not want to continue living my life in fear, and in the shadow of a rapist that did not deserve the air he breathed. I refused to let him win. It's hard, it's difficult but it's your choice. Pick yourself up. Gather that deep strength that all women possess, you know the one and use it for determination that he will not win. Every day you cry, every day you fear, every day you're depressed because he raped you means he wins. Now, do you want him to win? I don't but I can't fix you. All I can do is sympathize and tell you how I dealt with my own rape. The rest is up to you my friend. (( hugs )) ~ Kassandra > > God brings men into deep waters not to drown them, but to cleanse > them. > > > > - Aughey > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2003 Report Share Posted September 20, 2003 Kassandra, thanks for sharing again! You had some excellent comments and suggestions! Many women and perhaps men, have been through abuse and it is hard to get over it, and get on with life. But, that is our challenge. I support you in getting it together again (after going through something like that). Have a great weekend! Many Hugs, PJ Kassandra Viscovich wrote: ine, I was raped too. I understand. Really I do. But you know what...and you probably don't want to hear this is by continuing to play the victim, the martyr, the rapist wins. He always will, and he continues to rape you each and every day that you feel bad about yourself. I know this from first hand experience. Did I go into a psych ward from my rape, no but in all honesty I should have. What I did was feel sorry for myself, and let men continue to abuse me and use me because that is what I believed should happen to me. Then I woke up. I realized I did not want to continue living my life in fear, and in the shadow of a rapist that did not deserve the air he breathed. I refused to let him win. It's hard, it's difficult but it's your choice. Pick yourself up. Gather that deep strength that all women possess, you know the one and use it for determination that he will not win. Every day you cry, every day you fear, every day you're depressed because he raped you means he wins. Now, do you want him to win? I don't but I can't fix you. All I can do is sympathize and tell you how I dealt with my own rape. The rest is up to you my friend. (( hugs )) ~ Kassandra > > God brings men into deep waters not to drown them, but to cleanse > them. > > > > - Aughey > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 20, 2003 Report Share Posted September 20, 2003 Kassandra, thanks for sharing again! You had some excellent comments and suggestions! Many women and perhaps men, have been through abuse and it is hard to get over it, and get on with life. But, that is our challenge. I support you in getting it together again (after going through something like that). Have a great weekend! Many Hugs, PJ Kassandra Viscovich wrote: ine, I was raped too. I understand. Really I do. But you know what...and you probably don't want to hear this is by continuing to play the victim, the martyr, the rapist wins. He always will, and he continues to rape you each and every day that you feel bad about yourself. I know this from first hand experience. Did I go into a psych ward from my rape, no but in all honesty I should have. What I did was feel sorry for myself, and let men continue to abuse me and use me because that is what I believed should happen to me. Then I woke up. I realized I did not want to continue living my life in fear, and in the shadow of a rapist that did not deserve the air he breathed. I refused to let him win. It's hard, it's difficult but it's your choice. Pick yourself up. Gather that deep strength that all women possess, you know the one and use it for determination that he will not win. Every day you cry, every day you fear, every day you're depressed because he raped you means he wins. Now, do you want him to win? I don't but I can't fix you. All I can do is sympathize and tell you how I dealt with my own rape. The rest is up to you my friend. (( hugs )) ~ Kassandra > > God brings men into deep waters not to drown them, but to cleanse > them. > > > > - Aughey > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2003 Report Share Posted September 21, 2003 Kassandra, Yes, thank you and I have to agree with PJ again, I couldn't have put this better myself. Nola -- Re: Re: Religion Dear Kassandra, Thanks SO Much for all your words of wisdom here! I couldn't have said it any better. Actually, you said it much better than I did! Thanks for piping in with your thoughts -- they are greatly appreciated! Hope you are doing well! Hugs, PJ Kassandra Viscovich wrote: ine, The Lord doesn't test us so we can fail; He is not that cruel. We are tested so we can grow. One thing church taught me as a child, and it is one thing that I've held onto all these years, is that we are never given a challenge bigger than what we can handle. Every bad or stressful thing that occurs is something we will overcome if we remember that we are so loved by the Lord ( ;-) insert diety of choice) that He will never cause us to fail. We will succeed if only we believe in ourself. The Lord already does that, so now it's up to us to join in on that thought. Just remember when you go through something and can't seem to escape the thought that you will fail, just remember " This too shall pass. " You've overcome much worse in the past, so how can this be worse than that? Besides, if you're still alive, and you're not living under a bridge things can't possibly be *that* bad. (( hugs )) ~ Kassandra > God brings men into deep waters not to drown them, but to cleanse them. > > - Aughey > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2003 Report Share Posted September 21, 2003 Kassandra, Yes, thank you and I have to agree with PJ again, I couldn't have put this better myself. Nola -- Re: Re: Religion Dear Kassandra, Thanks SO Much for all your words of wisdom here! I couldn't have said it any better. Actually, you said it much better than I did! Thanks for piping in with your thoughts -- they are greatly appreciated! Hope you are doing well! Hugs, PJ Kassandra Viscovich wrote: ine, The Lord doesn't test us so we can fail; He is not that cruel. We are tested so we can grow. One thing church taught me as a child, and it is one thing that I've held onto all these years, is that we are never given a challenge bigger than what we can handle. Every bad or stressful thing that occurs is something we will overcome if we remember that we are so loved by the Lord ( ;-) insert diety of choice) that He will never cause us to fail. We will succeed if only we believe in ourself. The Lord already does that, so now it's up to us to join in on that thought. Just remember when you go through something and can't seem to escape the thought that you will fail, just remember " This too shall pass. " You've overcome much worse in the past, so how can this be worse than that? Besides, if you're still alive, and you're not living under a bridge things can't possibly be *that* bad. (( hugs )) ~ Kassandra > God brings men into deep waters not to drown them, but to cleanse them. > > - Aughey > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2003 Report Share Posted September 21, 2003 Kassandra, Yes, thank you and I have to agree with PJ again, I couldn't have put this better myself. Nola -- Re: Re: Religion Dear Kassandra, Thanks SO Much for all your words of wisdom here! I couldn't have said it any better. Actually, you said it much better than I did! Thanks for piping in with your thoughts -- they are greatly appreciated! Hope you are doing well! Hugs, PJ Kassandra Viscovich wrote: ine, The Lord doesn't test us so we can fail; He is not that cruel. We are tested so we can grow. One thing church taught me as a child, and it is one thing that I've held onto all these years, is that we are never given a challenge bigger than what we can handle. Every bad or stressful thing that occurs is something we will overcome if we remember that we are so loved by the Lord ( ;-) insert diety of choice) that He will never cause us to fail. We will succeed if only we believe in ourself. The Lord already does that, so now it's up to us to join in on that thought. Just remember when you go through something and can't seem to escape the thought that you will fail, just remember " This too shall pass. " You've overcome much worse in the past, so how can this be worse than that? Besides, if you're still alive, and you're not living under a bridge things can't possibly be *that* bad. (( hugs )) ~ Kassandra > God brings men into deep waters not to drown them, but to cleanse them. > > - Aughey > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2003 Report Share Posted September 21, 2003 ine, That is wonderful! I see you doing great things for others, I really do! You have it in you girl..keep pushing that way and I know you will reap great benefits from it all. I can't tell you how many times I have helped people and sat back and felt so wonderful inside because I did it. Yes, Me I did it! That's how I think sometimes. Even when things are really bad for me here, if I turn it around and help someone else, even by just sending out a quote to you guys or some good advice to someone I care about, it turns my whole day around for me. ine, I see many great things for you if you apply your good nature and your good sense for helping others to your life. Sometimes it is the best medicine for ourselves. My doctor had me on ten different pills after my husband passed away because I found him that early morning. I took pills to wake me up, put me to sleep, make me alert during the day, stabilize my moods and so on. Sometimes too many pills take the person inside away. I saw that, took myself off most of them and stayed on the tranquilizers, only when needed. This worked for me, however, i don't suggest you take yourself off any medications without consulting your doctor first. I do know you are in the midst of a med change and this could also be an instability going on in your system because of that. Work with the doctor on that one and see what works for you. You have a big heart ine, it sure is tough to see it all wasted. You are doing well if you are thinking of others as you do, but remember one thing...if you give of yourself, don't expect to get it back. Things like this seem to come around to you sooner or later through others and not always directly from that person you helped. See what i mean? You are doing good, wish I had some of that baking you do LOL I hate to bake but love homemade baked goods. I bet your a great baker huh? Do you do this often?? and you live where? No just teasing you. You have a good week ine, I will certainly have you in my prayers....many hugs...Nola -- Re: Religion ine, I was raped too. I understand. Really I do. But you know what...and you probably don't want to hear this is by continuing to play the victim, the martyr, the rapist wins. He always will, and he continues to rape you each and every day that you feel bad about yourself. I know this from first hand experience. Did I go into a psych ward from my rape, no but in all honesty I should have. What I did was feel sorry for myself, and let men continue to abuse me and use me because that is what I believed should happen to me. Then I woke up. I realized I did not want to continue living my life in fear, and in the shadow of a rapist that did not deserve the air he breathed. I refused to let him win. It's hard, it's difficult but it's your choice. Pick yourself up. Gather that deep strength that all women possess, you know the one and use it for determination that he will not win. Every day you cry, every day you fear, every day you're depressed because he raped you means he wins. Now, do you want him to win? I don't but I can't fix you. All I can do is sympathize and tell you how I dealt with my own rape. The rest is up to you my friend. (( hugs )) ~ Kassandra > > God brings men into deep waters not to drown them, but to cleanse > them. > > > > - Aughey > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 21, 2003 Report Share Posted September 21, 2003 ine, That is wonderful! I see you doing great things for others, I really do! You have it in you girl..keep pushing that way and I know you will reap great benefits from it all. I can't tell you how many times I have helped people and sat back and felt so wonderful inside because I did it. Yes, Me I did it! That's how I think sometimes. Even when things are really bad for me here, if I turn it around and help someone else, even by just sending out a quote to you guys or some good advice to someone I care about, it turns my whole day around for me. ine, I see many great things for you if you apply your good nature and your good sense for helping others to your life. Sometimes it is the best medicine for ourselves. My doctor had me on ten different pills after my husband passed away because I found him that early morning. I took pills to wake me up, put me to sleep, make me alert during the day, stabilize my moods and so on. Sometimes too many pills take the person inside away. I saw that, took myself off most of them and stayed on the tranquilizers, only when needed. This worked for me, however, i don't suggest you take yourself off any medications without consulting your doctor first. I do know you are in the midst of a med change and this could also be an instability going on in your system because of that. Work with the doctor on that one and see what works for you. You have a big heart ine, it sure is tough to see it all wasted. You are doing well if you are thinking of others as you do, but remember one thing...if you give of yourself, don't expect to get it back. Things like this seem to come around to you sooner or later through others and not always directly from that person you helped. See what i mean? You are doing good, wish I had some of that baking you do LOL I hate to bake but love homemade baked goods. I bet your a great baker huh? Do you do this often?? and you live where? No just teasing you. You have a good week ine, I will certainly have you in my prayers....many hugs...Nola -- Re: Religion ine, I was raped too. I understand. Really I do. But you know what...and you probably don't want to hear this is by continuing to play the victim, the martyr, the rapist wins. He always will, and he continues to rape you each and every day that you feel bad about yourself. I know this from first hand experience. Did I go into a psych ward from my rape, no but in all honesty I should have. What I did was feel sorry for myself, and let men continue to abuse me and use me because that is what I believed should happen to me. Then I woke up. I realized I did not want to continue living my life in fear, and in the shadow of a rapist that did not deserve the air he breathed. I refused to let him win. It's hard, it's difficult but it's your choice. Pick yourself up. Gather that deep strength that all women possess, you know the one and use it for determination that he will not win. Every day you cry, every day you fear, every day you're depressed because he raped you means he wins. Now, do you want him to win? I don't but I can't fix you. All I can do is sympathize and tell you how I dealt with my own rape. The rest is up to you my friend. (( hugs )) ~ Kassandra > > God brings men into deep waters not to drown them, but to cleanse > them. > > > > - Aughey > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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