Re: Sweating and feeling hot

[Guest guest]

Debbie

Have you said whether you ever had your thyroid removed or not? I have this

sweating going on sometimes, well, frequently before I started the

progesterone cream, but not over the last few days. Anyway, you did say

that you had been in estrogen dominance for a long time. Strange that I

also had that going on, way back then, even when I had plenty of estrogen.

This is another reason why I take my Armour in 6 split doses. Too much at

one time does this to me, but my proportions on T3 testing are larger than

yours, with a T4 just getting to the top of the range, at least at last

testing, 3 months ago.

Sweating and feeling hot

> Is anyone having a problem with sweating? I have been

> doing this for about 16 - 17 years, and since the two

> increases of Armour this year, it is becoming more

> intense. I had Graves' about 25 years ago, but never

> had the sweating, or for that matter not really any of

> the symptoms except the enlarge neck. Since I have

> become hypo and started meds about the same time the

> sweating started, I am having a lot of hyper symptoms,

> including problems with my eyes, and these symptoms

> are becoming more and more bothersome. I just wonder

> if there is something I am missing. My last test

> showed the free t3 278 (230-420),free t4 .8 (.8-1.8)

> and TSH 2.28. I am taking 2 1/2 grains Armour/day. I

> am just so tired of the sweating and the constant

> feeling hot I could scream.

>

> Thanks,

>

> Debbie

[Guest guest]

Ok, now we're getting somewhere. I thought we were talking pretty much

about the female hormones, but evidently, not so. There is an adrenal tumor

called a pheochromocytoma (that's a mouthful, huh?) that does cause sudden

blood pressure spikes, sudden racing heart, sudden anxiety attacks, and very

high pulse rates, plus the sweating. These tumors usually are manufacturing

their own type of hormone, which I believe is maybe epinephrine or

norepinephrine, at any rate, their own hormone. The type of hormone they

produce is what causes the symptoms. It's been awhile since I read about

them, so I can't remember the substance they produce. Anyway, they are

usually part of what is called the MEN Syndrome. There are 3 types of this

syndrome, defined as MEN I, II, or III. Each type is defined by the

combination of the triad of disorders that come together with each one. I'm

thinking that the thyroid is included in on at least two of these types, and

another gland, but I can't remember what the rest of each symdrome includes,

other than the pheochromocytoma and the thyroid gland. I'm not saying

that's what you have, but darn this doctor for not looking further into

something seen on a scan. Why did the idiot order the scan if he was going

to disregard what was found??!! Sheesh!! I'd find someone who would look

at that scan and would get a copy of it. Have you had extremely high blood

pressure or any of these other symptoms?

Re: Sweating and feeling hot

> ,

>

> I had normal estrogen levels, I had out of range LH

> and FSH levels. What I was commenting on was I had

> low progesterone levels. It was like having PMS and

> menopause at the same time. My husband would throw in

> an unsuspecting animal into the house before entering

> to see if he had a chance to make it in alive.

>

> I took anti-thyroid pills for my Graves'. I had an

> extreme case of Graves' and have not been well since.

> I think there is something else going on with me too.

> I managed to talk one endo into an adrenal MRI with

> and without contrast, but when it was run, the techs

> refused to run it with contrast. However when it was

> read they did find something on my right adrenal gland

> in one of the views of the MRI, but not in any of the

> other views so the doctor said there is nothing wrong.

> I have been trying ever since to get another MRI with

> and without with no luck. Now that I have had two

> adrenal hormones that were out of range on the low

> side, I am hoping to convince the endo of running

> another. I will be doing my fast talking on Sept

> 14th.

>

> Thanks for the hint, I will try splitting the Armour

> into 6 doses to see if that helps with the heat. I

> have had this sweating even when I have been on other

> thyroid meds like Synthyroid and Cytomel.

[Guest guest]

With something as complicated as an MEN Syndrome, all the doctors you've

been seeing are curious, so they investigate to a certain point, then their

expertise end, and they become bewildered. Instead of saying that they

don't know how to proceed, they say something else stupid instead, when it

would have been better to tell the truth. In some cases, it is an

egotistical doctor, but in some cases, we can thank the greedy insurance

companies for it. I'm wondering if some type of oncologist wouldn't be

better at scoping this stuff, or a kidney specialist.

Re: Sweating and feeling hot

> ,

>

> I have already been tested for a pheo. A lot of my

> symptoms started out there and in fact several of my

> lab tests, (24 hour urines for metanephrines and

> catecholamines,) showed that this may be a real

> possibility. I have been retested over the course of

> 2 years and the levels that were once showing positive

> for a pheo, are all of a sudden now going out of range

> in the opposite direction.

>

> The endo that agreed to the MRI gave me the boot in

> January. I was told that since he became chief of

> staff (for the very same hospital that ran the MRI, so

> he couldn't admit guilt there,) that he really didn't

> have time for me since I am such a complicated case.

> My husband happened to be there on that visit and he

> couldn't believe his ears either.

>

> I have only been in Texas for three years, and really

> don't know who to go to. I have already been to 8

> endos here. In fact the two " bad " endos that are

> listed for Houston, I have been to both. LOL. I went

> to a new sleep doctor this past week, who I happen to

> think is going to work out well for me, flat told me

> that there really aren't any good endos in the Houston

> area!!!

>

> And yes I think there is a ppossibilitythat there is a

> type of MEN working here, I just cannot get these

> endos to consider the possibility and look at the

> whole picture.

[Guest guest]

With something as complicated as an MEN Syndrome, all the doctors you've

been seeing are curious, so they investigate to a certain point, then their

expertise end, and they become bewildered. Instead of saying that they

don't know how to proceed, they say something else stupid instead, when it

would have been better to tell the truth. In some cases, it is an

egotistical doctor, but in some cases, we can thank the greedy insurance

companies for it. I'm wondering if some type of oncologist wouldn't be

better at scoping this stuff, or a kidney specialist.

Re: Sweating and feeling hot

> ,

>

> I have already been tested for a pheo. A lot of my

> symptoms started out there and in fact several of my

> lab tests, (24 hour urines for metanephrines and

> catecholamines,) showed that this may be a real

> possibility. I have been retested over the course of

> 2 years and the levels that were once showing positive

> for a pheo, are all of a sudden now going out of range

> in the opposite direction.

>

> The endo that agreed to the MRI gave me the boot in

> January. I was told that since he became chief of

> staff (for the very same hospital that ran the MRI, so

> he couldn't admit guilt there,) that he really didn't

> have time for me since I am such a complicated case.

> My husband happened to be there on that visit and he

> couldn't believe his ears either.

>

> I have only been in Texas for three years, and really

> don't know who to go to. I have already been to 8

> endos here. In fact the two " bad " endos that are

> listed for Houston, I have been to both. LOL. I went

> to a new sleep doctor this past week, who I happen to

> think is going to work out well for me, flat told me

> that there really aren't any good endos in the Houston

> area!!!

>

> And yes I think there is a ppossibilitythat there is a

> type of MEN working here, I just cannot get these

> endos to consider the possibility and look at the

> whole picture.