Guest guest Posted September 5, 2004 Report Share Posted September 5, 2004 These books sound great and i've never heard of them. Will have to check them out. Are they illustrated or are they chapter books for older kids? But why does the protagonist ALWAYS have to be male? . Elaine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2004 Report Share Posted September 5, 2004 Elaine- >These books sound great and i've never heard of them. Will have to check >them out. Are they illustrated or are they chapter books for older kids? But >why does the protagonist ALWAYS have to be male? . Always? I don't know how things are where you live, but I was in a bookstore the other day, and it looked to me like things are the other way around now. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2004 Report Share Posted September 5, 2004 >Hi group, since there's been a topic line about eating raw meat, I thought >this article might interest some members who find it difficult to consider >eating meat raw. I copied the entire article because it's from a British >news site that requires membership. Hope that was okay. > > Oh wow, thanks! My daughter will " eat it up " ! Yeah, we do stuff like salt hides and look at entrails at our house ... as I did as a kid. I think it's a shame that kids tend to be " sheilded " from that sort of thing. I preordered it at Amazon ... Heidi Jean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2004 Report Share Posted September 5, 2004 i guess i'll have to look more diligently. that's encouraging news. still seems to be a minority of books. Elaine > Always? I don't know how things are where you live, but I was in a > bookstore the other day, and it looked to me like things are the other way > around now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2004 Report Share Posted September 5, 2004 > Elaine- > > >These books sound great and i've never heard of them. Will have to check > >them out. Are they illustrated or are they chapter books for older kids? But > >why does the protagonist ALWAYS have to be male? . > > Always? I don't know how things are where you live, but I was in a > bookstore the other day, and it looked to me like things are the other way > around now. > > - Likely about even. If I were to write a series of books on the same subject to the adult or children's market I'd use the male gender too just because there's more leeway for adventure, risk and drama. Hope she works in a female character or characters as strong as Harry Potter's female friend for that balance and perspective. She complemented Harry. Harry wouldn't have been as strong a character without her. Market would be reduced somewhat with a main female character. Just how it is. The first series could be written so a female character could come forward into another series with her as protagonist. Enjoyed author's research quest. Wanita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 5, 2004 Report Share Posted September 5, 2004 > Re: Children's author eats reindeer for research > > >> Elaine- >> >> >These books sound great and i've never heard of them. Will have to check >> >them out. Are they illustrated or are they chapter books for older kids? >But >> >why does the protagonist ALWAYS have to be male? . >> >> Always? I don't know how things are where you live, but I was in a >> bookstore the other day, and it looked to me like things are the >other way >> around now. >> >> - > >Likely about even. If I were to write a series of books on the same subject >to the adult or children's market I'd use the male gender too just because >there's more leeway for adventure, risk and drama. How so? Suze Fisher Lapdog Design, Inc. Web Design & Development http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine http://www.westonaprice.org ---------------------------- “The diet-heart idea (the idea that saturated fats and cholesterol cause heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our times.” -- Mann, MD, former Professor of Medicine and Biochemistry at Vanderbilt University, Tennessee; heart disease researcher. The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics <http://www.thincs.org> ---------------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2004 Report Share Posted September 6, 2004 > >Likely about even. If I were to write a series of books on the same subject > >to the adult or children's market I'd use the male gender too just because > >there's more leeway for adventure, risk and drama. > > Wanita > How so? > > Suze Fisher What I've seen of Scandinavian reindeer culture is indicative of male as hunter and herder (now they do herd and pen for winter food then release) of the reindeer. Boys learn what is their responsibility to family and tribe from elder men. The reindeer is at root of Scandinavian culture, as is the bison to the Plains tribes, salmon to the Northwest, cattle to the Masai, etc. My statement was based only on cultural specificity to the author's objective of reality in the series and the resultant advantages to writing in that context. Wanita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2004 Report Share Posted September 6, 2004 > Re: Children's author eats reindeer for research > > > > >> >Likely about even. If I were to write a series of books on the same >subject >> >to the adult or children's market I'd use the male gender too just >because >> >there's more leeway for adventure, risk and drama. >> >> Wanita > >> How so? >> >> Suze Fisher > >What I've seen of Scandinavian reindeer culture is indicative of male as >hunter and herder (now they do herd and pen for winter food then >release) of >the reindeer. Boys learn what is their responsibility to family and tribe >from elder men. The reindeer is at root of Scandinavian culture, as is >the bison to the Plains tribes, salmon to the Northwest, cattle to the >Masai, etc. >My statement was based only on cultural specificity to the author's >objective of >reality in the series and the resultant advantages to writing in that >context. > >Wanita I understand. However, since it's *fiction* she could probably come up with an adventurous story with a girl protagonist while maintaining consistency with cultural values for the tribe as a whole. There are always those stories of renegade girls who get into big adventures despite their traditional culture. I LOVE those stories! Reminds me of an old German t.v. show about a band of runaway kids led by a girl, who was called " Die Rote Zora " . I used to love that show... Suze Fisher Lapdog Design, Inc. Web Design & Development http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine http://www.westonaprice.org ---------------------------- “The diet-heart idea (the idea that saturated fats and cholesterol cause heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our times.” -- Mann, MD, former Professor of Medicine and Biochemistry at Vanderbilt University, Tennessee; heart disease researcher. The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics <http://www.thincs.org> ---------------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2004 Report Share Posted September 6, 2004 > >My statement was based only on cultural specificity to the author's > >objective of > >reality in the series and the resultant advantages to writing in that > >context. > > > >Wanita > > I understand. However, since it's *fiction* she could probably come up with > an adventurous story with a girl protagonist while maintaining consistency > with cultural values for the tribe as a whole. There are always those > stories of renegade girls who get into big adventures despite their > traditional culture. I LOVE those stories! Reminds me of an old German t.v. > show about a band of runaway kids led by a girl, who was called " Die Rote > Zora " . I used to love that show... > > > Suze Fisher Is a personal preference. Dislike fiction and wouldn't have commented if not for the setting in a nonfictional culture. Wanita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2004 Report Share Posted September 7, 2004 >. There are always those >stories of renegade girls who get into big adventures despite their >traditional culture. I LOVE those stories! Reminds me of an old German t.v. >show about a band of runaway kids led by a girl, who was called " Die Rote >Zora " . I used to love that show... I read " The Golden Compass " series to my daughter. Wow, if you want a great female protagonist, Lyra is it! Heidi Jean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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