Re: Vitamin D toxicity? - Price's comments in NAPD on CLO

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> Read all of chapter 16. He talks about CLO dose and safety in

several

> places.

---> I've read it a few years ago. Will go back through it more

carefully when I have some time than just flipping like I did last

night. I didn't see any warning jump out at me last night although

he does recommend butter oil to make it more effective.

> Sally has 50,000iu a day of vitamin A (estimated to be consumed by

the

> primitives) listed on the WAP website. She then contradicts that

info

------> Yes, the number I quoted was from a post she made in

response to mine on the chapterleaders site. I was concerned when I

first started this high dose a couple of months ago and she told me

she averages about 30,000. She increases sometimes up to close to

90,000 when she's under stress. She said it makes a definite

difference but she doesn't maintain this high dose for long periods.

And of course I don't expect to either and have already dropped the

dose a bit.

in another spot on the website, so she really needs to get the

website

> cleaned up (besides needing to replace the WORTHLESS search

function with a Google search field).

-----> Yes that would be good. Since the WPF is a low budget

nonprofit maybe someday someone will volunteer to set this up. I

believe her son made the present web site. Actually I don't really

mind the present web site all that much. But I agree the search

engine really doesn't function well.

This much vitamin A was probably obtained

> from liver and other organ meats and fish eggs etc. in addition to

the

> eyes of fish and game.

----> Absolutely they did. I do eat liver but maybe not enough. I

was using 1-2 oz raw in a pottenger tonic daily for quite awhile. It

was very helpful but nothing compared to the high CLO doses I'm

presently using. Maybe if I could get very very fresh liver I could

tolerate more every day but I simply couldn't take more. It averaged

to 8-10oz/ week.

Sally also said she eats liver in some form every week.

> Price estimated that the primitives he studied consumed 10 times

the

> RDA of his day for vitamin D. That equals what the vitamin D

council is

> reccomending we consume on a daily basis (4,000IU) if we are not

> getting at least that amount via sun exposure.

----> do you have a link for the RDA of Price's time? I was looking

for that.

Since most of us have

> chosen to get it via CLO (vs. sun exposure or lard) then we are

limited

> by the rancidity potential of CLO and it;s blood thinning effects.

---> Don't know about the rancidity and blood thinning effects as

being a real problem. All I know is this is making my life function

again at level I can get things done and deal with the teens I

teach. Nothing I was trying was working to the extent this is.

Lynn

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I was reading these threads on and off then went to look at how many IUs of

A i get in my CLO each day -- 4,000. I'm kind of floored at taking almost 10

times that amount (of course i would have to see what i get through food

too). Am I reading this right? How many tablespoons is that? I would have to

take 15 capsules to get 30,000 IU.

Elaine

>> She increases sometimes up to close to

>> 90,000 when she's under stress. She said it makes a definite

>> difference

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I took 400,000 IU on two consecutive days amounting to 800,000 IU in total.

I gave my daughter the same. In Germany, on the product info, it states

Vitamin A can be safely given once up to 1,200,000 IU ...to adults...

My daughter's chronic constipation went and I had BEAUTIFUL skin the next

few days. The autism list s I am on have lots of parents who are using high

dosing as it is thought to kill the measles virus which is believed to have

conme from the MMR!!!

in Germany

Re: Vitamin D toxicity? - Price's comments in NAPD on CLO

> I was reading these threads on and off then went to look at how many IUs

of

> A i get in my CLO each day -- 4,000. I'm kind of floored at taking almost

10

> times that amount (of course i would have to see what i get through food

> too). Am I reading this right? How many tablespoons is that? I would have

to

> take 15 capsules to get 30,000 IU.

> Elaine

>

> >> She increases sometimes up to close to

> >> 90,000 when she's under stress. She said it makes a definite

> >> difference

>

>

>

>

>

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What about halibut-liver oil? I found this one:

http://www.goldenglow.com.au/ggecomm/productView.jsp?ProductId=1013

Does anyone know how many IU is 10mcg?

Cheers,

Tas'.

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>>>Does anyone know how many IU is 10mcg?<<<

Don't worry - I found this:

http://www.simetric.co.uk/si_medical.htm#iu

" Note on International Units ( i.u. )

An old measurement of vitamin activity determined by biological methods as

opposed to new measures that are determined by direct chemical analysis.

Many health foods and supplements still use i.u. ( IU ).

For Vitamin A, 1 i.u. = 0.3µg retinol, 3.6µg b-carotene, or 7.2µg other vitamin

A carotenoids

For Vitamin D, 1 i.u. = 0.025µg cholecalciferol

For Vitamin E, 1 i.u. = 0.67µg natural a-tocopherol (different conversion

factors are used for different forms of vitamin E) "

So that means 10mcg of Vit. D = 400 IU. Is that right?

Cheers,

Tas'.

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> Re: Vitamin D toxicity? - Price's comments in NAPD on CLO

>

>

>I would love to know what your 25-hydroxyvitamin D test result is since

>you've been taking these high amounts for more than a month or two.

FWIW, I'd been taking 2 Tbsp. of the high vitamin CLO for several months

when I did a vit. D test and my level was 62 - within Krispin's healthy

tropical range. I think the amount of D I was getting was between

7,000-8,000 IUs/daily. Prior to that I'd been taking 1 Tbsp. of the same CLO

for several months. Everyone has different requirements, and I seem to

require quite a bit.

>

Suze Fisher

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That's why I'm using high vitamin CLO. One tsp has around 5,000 so a

tbls would give me 15,000. Since I'm presently aiming for the 30,000

-60,000 range it's 2-3 tbsp. I couldn't do this without other big

problems if I tried to use regular CLO.

Sally says she uses up to 4 tblsp of high vitamin when she under

stress and uses liver once a week so that a lot of vit A. She says she

can think clearer.

Lynn

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> I was reading these threads on and off then went to look at how many

IUs of

> A i get in my CLO each day -- 4,000. I'm kind of floored at taking

almost 10

> times that amount (of course i would have to see what i get through food

> too). Am I reading this right? How many tablespoons is that? I would

have to

> take 15 capsules to get 30,000 IU.

[Guest guest]

> What brand are you using?

----> Blue Ice from Wetzel's butter oil company.

http://www.greenpasture.org/

Lynn R.