Re: Gene Tied to Depression,

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> Article: "The problem is not the alarm clock, but the button you push to stop the alarm," which doesn't work correctly in those people, Weinberger said.Researchers linked the effectiveness of the circuit to the subjects' vulnerability to depression and anxiety. That makes sense, Weinberger said, because in affected people "the problem isn't that you're fearful, it's that you can't stop being fearful, you can't turn it off."

Innate sensitivity is a quality of one's subtle energy fields and energy centers which can be both a blessing and a curse depending on the circumstances. What they can see in brain scans is only the EFFECT of that on the physical brain. Until they recognise that they are looking in the wrong place, and that there are innate differences that has to be worked with according to that person's (often more advanced) level of spiritual development, they are not likely to really get anywhere, IMO.

> Article: But the genetic variation doesn't by itself guarantee that someone will become depressed or anxious, Weinberger said. Other factors -- both environmental and genetic -- contribute to helping a person develop depression or anxiety, he said.

Right. What sensitive people need is not to have their "alarm buttons" turned off - since it is there to protect one from harm - but for circumstances to be peaceful enough so that it will have no need to go off. If you have a delicate orchid, designed to grow under very specific conditions, you don't put it in a the desert or an arctic climate and wonder what's wrong with it when it doesn't thrive. How come we have a better undstanding of plants than of humans?

> Dr. Grisolia, a neurologist at Scripps Mercy Hospital in San Diego, said the study findings will need to be confirmed. But for now, the potential link between gene variations and brain changes "underscores that tiny changes in the DNA code have the potential to cause far-reaching changes in the person."

It may just as well be the other way around. That innate differences manifest on the physical plane as changes in the DNA too.

> In another depression-related study released this month, American and German researchers armed with brain scans found evidence that depression doesn't affect the level of pain felt by patients with fibromyalgia, a condition that causes chronic pain. The findings appear in the May issue of Arthritis & Rheumatism.This confirms that FMS is a physical disorder and not an emotional or 'mental' disorder as was previously thought.

Inger

[Guest guest]

Hi Inger, your comments stimulated several responses:

1. I think you got the alarm thing backward. Weinberger is suggesting

that people prone to depression and anxiety cannot turn the alarm on,

rather than off. Most people can turn off the fear, but the vulnerable

ones can't. So conceivably it's possible to jigger it around on a

molecular level.

2. Certain effects can be addressed best on the physical level, and

others on more subtle levels. It's quite possible that a karmic glitch

on the causal level can cause a molecular change at the physical

level. It's also possible that a karmic glitch can lead a spirit to

become attracted to parents who will pass on a physical glitch.

3. It's quite possible that these problems need to be worked on both

at the physical level and more subtle levels. You might correct the

physical problem temporarily, but it might return if you have not

dealt with problems at other levels.

Ken

> > Article: " The problem is not the alarm clock, but the button you

push to stop the alarm, " which doesn't work correctly in those people,

Weinberger said.

> Researchers linked the effectiveness of the circuit to the subjects'

vulnerability to depression and anxiety. That makes sense, Weinberger

said, because in affected people " the problem isn't that you're

fearful, it's that you can't stop being fearful, you can't turn it off. "

>

> Innate sensitivity is a quality of one's subtle energy fields and

energy centers which can be both a blessing and a curse depending on

the circumstances. What they can see in brain scans is only the EFFECT

of that on the physical brain. Until they recognise that they are

looking in the wrong place, and that there are innate differences that

has to be worked with according to that person's (often more advanced)

level of spiritual development, they are not likely to really get

anywhere, IMO.

>

> > Article: But the genetic variation doesn't by itself guarantee

that someone will become depressed or anxious, Weinberger said. Other

factors -- both environmental and genetic -- contribute to helping a

person develop depression or anxiety, he said.

>

> Right. What sensitive people need is not to have their " alarm

buttons " turned off - since it is there to protect one from harm - but

for circumstances to be peaceful enough so that it will have no need

to go off. If you have a delicate orchid, designed to grow under very

specific conditions, you don't put it in a the desert or an arctic

climate and wonder what's wrong with it when it doesn't thrive. How

come we have a better undstanding of plants than of humans?

>

> > Dr. Grisolia, a neurologist at Scripps Mercy Hospital in San

Diego, said the study findings will need to be confirmed. But for now,

the potential link between gene variations and brain changes

" underscores that tiny changes in the DNA code have the potential to

cause far-reaching changes in the person. "

>

> It may just as well be the other way around. That innate differences

manifest on the physical plane as changes in the DNA too.

>

> > In another depression-related study released this month, American

and German researchers armed with brain scans found evidence that

depression doesn't affect the level of pain felt by patients with

fibromyalgia, a condition that causes chronic pain. The findings

appear in the May issue of Arthritis & Rheumatism.

>

> This confirms that FMS is a physical disorder and not an emotional

or 'mental' disorder as was previously thought.

>

> Inger

[Guest guest]

Ken:

> Hi Inger, your comments stimulated several responses:

> 1. I think you got the alarm thing backward. Weinberger is suggesting

that people prone to depression and anxiety cannot turn the alarm on,

rather than off. Most people can turn off the fear, but the vulnerable

ones can't. So conceivably it's possible to jigger it around on a

molecular level.

OK.

> 2. Certain effects can be addressed best on the physical level, and

others on more subtle levels. It's quite possible that a karmic glitch

on the causal level can cause a molecular change at the physical

level. It's also possible that a karmic glitch can lead a spirit to

become attracted to parents who will pass on a physical glitch.

Right.

> 3. It's quite possible that these problems need to be worked on both

at the physical level and more subtle levels. You might correct the

physical problem temporarily, but it might return if you have not

dealt with problems at other levels.

Agreed. This is why I think it's so important to have a holistic view; so

that you can address the problem from all angles. To give an example - and

also replying to a question posted many weeks ago and which I forgot

to answer then - when my friend got cancer she both changed her diet,

started taking Iscador (mistletoe-extract) & home-grown freshly ground wheat

grass extract AND worked on her emotions and attitudes, going deeper into

both her past and her wished future than she had ever done before, pulling

up old hidden fears, grudges, misconceptions and mental limitations by the

root. She is very convinced that just doing ONE of those things would not

have had the same amazing results.

Oh and this might interest you too: I think I mentioned earlier that she had

gone through that ultrasound procedure for her kidney stones? Well, there

was still a small stone left in her kidney and she didn't want to do that

rather painful procedure a third time so she tried these herbal and

homeopathic remedies instead (along with continuing working on her fears).

And now she went back the other day to the hospital to take new x-rays and

the nurse was totally shocked to see most of it gone, only the tiniest

little grain left. That's supposed to be impossible. Kindey stones do NOT

just dissolve. :-)

Inger

> > Article: " The problem is not the alarm clock, but the button you

push to stop the alarm, " which doesn't work correctly in those people,

Weinberger said.

> Researchers linked the effectiveness of the circuit to the subjects'

vulnerability to depression and anxiety. That makes sense, Weinberger

said, because in affected people " the problem isn't that you're

fearful, it's that you can't stop being fearful, you can't turn it off. "

>

> Innate sensitivity is a quality of one's subtle energy fields and

energy centers which can be both a blessing and a curse depending on

the circumstances. What they can see in brain scans is only the EFFECT

of that on the physical brain. Until they recognise that they are

looking in the wrong place, and that there are innate differences that

has to be worked with according to that person's (often more advanced)

level of spiritual development, they are not likely to really get

anywhere, IMO.

>

> > Article: But the genetic variation doesn't by itself guarantee

that someone will become depressed or anxious, Weinberger said. Other

factors -- both environmental and genetic -- contribute to helping a

person develop depression or anxiety, he said.

>

> Right. What sensitive people need is not to have their " alarm

buttons " turned off - since it is there to protect one from harm - but

for circumstances to be peaceful enough so that it will have no need

to go off. If you have a delicate orchid, designed to grow under very

specific conditions, you don't put it in a the desert or an arctic

climate and wonder what's wrong with it when it doesn't thrive. How

come we have a better undstanding of plants than of humans?

>

> > Dr. Grisolia, a neurologist at Scripps Mercy Hospital in San

Diego, said the study findings will need to be confirmed. But for now,

the potential link between gene variations and brain changes

" underscores that tiny changes in the DNA code have the potential to

cause far-reaching changes in the person. "

>

> It may just as well be the other way around. That innate differences

manifest on the physical plane as changes in the DNA too.

>

> > In another depression-related study released this month, American

and German researchers armed with brain scans found evidence that

depression doesn't affect the level of pain felt by patients with

fibromyalgia, a condition that causes chronic pain. The findings

appear in the May issue of Arthritis & Rheumatism.

>

> This confirms that FMS is a physical disorder and not an emotional

or 'mental' disorder as was previously thought.

>

> Inger

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