Guest guest Posted October 29, 2006 Report Share Posted October 29, 2006 ok. If the power goes out a second time int he middle of this I give up (I have solar panels but thuhnderstorms this summer de fibrillated the inverter and the electrician needs to come over and fix things) Do very few labs. I have also thought alot about what to offer patietns but it is not our job to solve all the problems of health care. I ahve worked in far more rural areas and of course patietns want conveneince- xray and lab . But patietns do not pay for them and in genrela they are poorly reimbursed The equipment takes time space money and up keep and personell. If you a re near the hospital then hospitals provide these services quite efficiently TEACH PATIENTS WHY you cannot aford to fund their convenience Someday you will meet a aptietn who cares enough to help you change healthcare. My opinion- do urinalayis preg test strep test. I do also microalbmins. I note that TWICE all my pregnanyc tests have disapperarsd From a closed bathroom cabinet Now they live in my lab coat pocket for pete's sake. Thanks for the input, Keep it coming. I just want to thank everyone for the input. I think I may move forward with a contract lawyer and see how it goes from there. Things I need an opinion from thos more experienced so I may sleep better at night... 1. given that my practice will be very close to the new hospital I will be able to send virtually all pts to their rad/lab for tests and could limit my initial overhead. On the other hand I want to provide as much for my pts as I can. I know I can grow a limited lab in my office but not sure what I should start with. Coming from residency, I have no clue what lab services are financially feasible and what are not. There are lots of new " minimalist " lab equipment from very small machines, to just fancy clia waived dip tests for all kinds of things. Can you guys help me come up with a start up plan for this stuff? 2. Not quite the micro practice, but here is my theoretical startup plan. Start-up with eMDs and an office " manager " type person (a good friend of mine who I can trust, is an accountant and can be very flexible with $/time and willing to learn) to help with phones, billing, pt check in, etc. And a medical assistant. With clear cut job descriptions that everybody does everything as it needs done. Does that sound good or like too much? 3. As someone mentioned before, I will have to take all insurance plans/payors that the hospital takes " within reason. " But the town has a good payor mix. Near Dallas, ~50% of the working pop commutes to work in the city. The other half works in the many large corporations that are located in/just outside the city. City is growing quickly and has a good portion of young working people. This is the good thing about the whole area around the DFW metroplex..it is growing rapidly and there are alot of workers making it do so. Now the whole billing/collecting process is where I know I will likely be burned and learn the hard way...but I will do my best to plan for that. The medical office consultant is actually to help me to negotiate insurance contracts...I can use them as needed. This may sound like a waste to you, but since I really don't have working experience with this I would rather invest in getting the help to try to do this right, esp since it will be paid for as part of my " loan " to be paid of with time in the town. (4 yrs after guarantee yr). I feel like I should take advantage of this help. ...have much more to ask, but just got a page...gotta go round on some cardiology patients! Have a good Sunday. God bless you all! ...and keep the opinions/thoughts coming. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2006 Report Share Posted November 4, 2006 I do UA's, urine preg, strep. Also do hemocue glc and hgb (I do alot of peds and ob) as well as hgb a-1-c's. I tend to use the A-1-C's as a screen for DM instead of a 3hrGTT, because 1) better pt compliance and 2) it gives me the information I'm after (just how bad has your sugar been?). I bought a second-hand microscope because I just couldn't stand trying to dx vaginitis without a slide. Won't break even on it for years I'm sure, but decided I deserved at least one $500 luxury. I also bought a pocket pulse oximeter and acquired a used nebulizer. My reference lab set me up with everything needed, including centrifuge, for me to draw blood and their courier comes daily to get it. Acute labs go to the hospital (3 min car ride). Why are you hiring both a MA and a receptionist? MA's trained to do both. Use your friend to help with more complex tasks prn. Few insurance companies with negotiate anymore FYI. Good luck Lynette I Iles MD 210 South Iowa Ste 3 Washington IA 52353 Flexible Family Care 'Modern medicine the old-fashioned way' This e-mail and attachments may contain information which is confidential and is only for the named addressee. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete it from your computer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2006 Report Share Posted November 4, 2006 I do UA's, urine preg, strep. Also do hemocue glc and hgb (I do alot of peds and ob) as well as hgb a-1-c's. I tend to use the A-1-C's as a screen for DM instead of a 3hrGTT, because 1) better pt compliance and 2) it gives me the information I'm after (just how bad has your sugar been?). I bought a second-hand microscope because I just couldn't stand trying to dx vaginitis without a slide. Won't break even on it for years I'm sure, but decided I deserved at least one $500 luxury. I also bought a pocket pulse oximeter and acquired a used nebulizer. My reference lab set me up with everything needed, including centrifuge, for me to draw blood and their courier comes daily to get it. Acute labs go to the hospital (3 min car ride). Why are you hiring both a MA and a receptionist? MA's trained to do both. Use your friend to help with more complex tasks prn. Few insurance companies with negotiate anymore FYI. Good luck Lynette I Iles MD 210 South Iowa Ste 3 Washington IA 52353 Flexible Family Care 'Modern medicine the old-fashioned way' This e-mail and attachments may contain information which is confidential and is only for the named addressee. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete it from your computer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 4, 2006 Report Share Posted November 4, 2006 Lyneete thaks for the reminder about nebuizers-- check with your respiratory care co- whomever you will refer to for home oxygen and c pap They gave me the nebuliazer AND they gave me aluterol to put in it! Re: Thanks for the input, Keep it coming. I do UA's, urine preg, strep. Also do hemocue glc and hgb (I do alot of peds and ob) as well as hgb a-1-c's. I tend to use the A-1-C's as a screen for DM instead of a 3hrGTT, because 1) better pt compliance and 2) it gives me the information I'm after (just how bad has your sugar been?). I bought a second-hand microscope because I just couldn't stand trying to dx vaginitis without a slide. Won't break even on it for years I'm sure, but decided I deserved at least one $500 luxury. I also bought a pocket pulse oximeter and acquired a used nebulizer. My reference lab set me up with everything needed, including centrifuge, for me to draw blood and their courier comes daily to get it. Acute labs go to the hospital (3 min car ride). Why are you hiring both a MA and a receptionist? MA's trained to do both. Use your friend to help with more complex tasks prn. Few insurance companies with negotiate anymore FYI. Good luck Lynette I Iles MD 210 South Iowa Ste 3 Washington IA 52353 Flexible Family Care 'Modern medicine the old-fashioned way' This e-mail and attachments may contain information which is confidential and is only for the named addressee. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete it from your computer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2006 Report Share Posted November 5, 2006 Microscopic exam is not a CLIA-waived lab, so beware of the increased cost of the license to do that in office. (unless there is a change that I am unaware of since one year ago.) I use clinical history, exam and pH paper (with an occasional send-out of a swab for lab to do a culture or micro exam) for vaginitis for the reason of cost and “complexity” of non-CLIA waived labs in office… Ramona From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Lynette Iles Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 3:41 PM To: Subject: Re: Thanks for the input, Keep it coming. I do UA's, urine preg, strep. Also do hemocue glc and hgb (I do alot of peds and ob) as well as hgb a-1-c's. I tend to use the A-1-C's as a screen for DM instead of a 3hrGTT, because 1) better pt compliance and 2) it gives me the information I'm after (just how bad has your sugar been?). I bought a second-hand microscope because I just couldn't stand trying to dx vaginitis without a slide. Won't break even on it for years I'm sure, but decided I deserved at least one $500 luxury. I also bought a pocket pulse oximeter and acquired a used nebulizer. My reference lab set me up with everything needed, including centrifuge, for me to draw blood and their courier comes daily to get it. Acute labs go to the hospital (3 min car ride). Why are you hiring both a MA and a receptionist? MA's trained to do both. Use your friend to help with more complex tasks prn. Few insurance companies with negotiate anymore FYI. Good luck Lynette I Iles MD 210 South Iowa Ste 3 Washington IA 52353 Flexible Family Care 'Modern medicine the old-fashioned way' This e-mail and attachments may contain information which is confidential and is only for the named addressee. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete it from your computer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2006 Report Share Posted November 5, 2006 Microscopic exam is not a CLIA-waived lab, so beware of the increased cost of the license to do that in office. (unless there is a change that I am unaware of since one year ago.) I use clinical history, exam and pH paper (with an occasional send-out of a swab for lab to do a culture or micro exam) for vaginitis for the reason of cost and “complexity” of non-CLIA waived labs in office… Ramona From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Lynette Iles Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 3:41 PM To: Subject: Re: Thanks for the input, Keep it coming. I do UA's, urine preg, strep. Also do hemocue glc and hgb (I do alot of peds and ob) as well as hgb a-1-c's. I tend to use the A-1-C's as a screen for DM instead of a 3hrGTT, because 1) better pt compliance and 2) it gives me the information I'm after (just how bad has your sugar been?). I bought a second-hand microscope because I just couldn't stand trying to dx vaginitis without a slide. Won't break even on it for years I'm sure, but decided I deserved at least one $500 luxury. I also bought a pocket pulse oximeter and acquired a used nebulizer. My reference lab set me up with everything needed, including centrifuge, for me to draw blood and their courier comes daily to get it. Acute labs go to the hospital (3 min car ride). Why are you hiring both a MA and a receptionist? MA's trained to do both. Use your friend to help with more complex tasks prn. Few insurance companies with negotiate anymore FYI. Good luck Lynette I Iles MD 210 South Iowa Ste 3 Washington IA 52353 Flexible Family Care 'Modern medicine the old-fashioned way' This e-mail and attachments may contain information which is confidential and is only for the named addressee. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete it from your computer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2006 Report Share Posted November 5, 2006 Microscopic exam is not a CLIA-waived lab, so beware of the increased cost of the license to do that in office. (unless there is a change that I am unaware of since one year ago.) I use clinical history, exam and pH paper (with an occasional send-out of a swab for lab to do a culture or micro exam) for vaginitis for the reason of cost and “complexity” of non-CLIA waived labs in office… Ramona From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Lynette Iles Sent: Saturday, November 04, 2006 3:41 PM To: Subject: Re: Thanks for the input, Keep it coming. I do UA's, urine preg, strep. Also do hemocue glc and hgb (I do alot of peds and ob) as well as hgb a-1-c's. I tend to use the A-1-C's as a screen for DM instead of a 3hrGTT, because 1) better pt compliance and 2) it gives me the information I'm after (just how bad has your sugar been?). I bought a second-hand microscope because I just couldn't stand trying to dx vaginitis without a slide. Won't break even on it for years I'm sure, but decided I deserved at least one $500 luxury. I also bought a pocket pulse oximeter and acquired a used nebulizer. My reference lab set me up with everything needed, including centrifuge, for me to draw blood and their courier comes daily to get it. Acute labs go to the hospital (3 min car ride). Why are you hiring both a MA and a receptionist? MA's trained to do both. Use your friend to help with more complex tasks prn. Few insurance companies with negotiate anymore FYI. Good luck Lynette I Iles MD 210 South Iowa Ste 3 Washington IA 52353 Flexible Family Care 'Modern medicine the old-fashioned way' This e-mail and attachments may contain information which is confidential and is only for the named addressee. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete it from your computer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2006 Report Share Posted November 5, 2006 Hello (this is my first post to this group). If I understand it correctly, according to (www.cms.hhs.gov/CLIA/11_CLIA_Certificate_Fee_Schedule.asp#TopOfPage) it only costs an extra $25 per year to do microscopic exams (www.cms.hhs.gov/CLIA/downloads/ppmp.list.pdf). Dan > > Microscopic exam is not a CLIA-waived lab, so beware of the increased cost > of the license to do that in office. (unless there is a change that I am > unaware of since one year ago.) I use clinical history, exam and pH paper > (with an occasional send-out of a swab for lab to do a culture or micro > exam) for vaginitis for the reason of cost and " complexity " of non-CLIA > waived labs in office. > > > Ramona Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2006 Report Share Posted November 5, 2006 Hello (this is my first post to this group). If I understand it correctly, according to (www.cms.hhs.gov/CLIA/11_CLIA_Certificate_Fee_Schedule.asp#TopOfPage) it only costs an extra $25 per year to do microscopic exams (www.cms.hhs.gov/CLIA/downloads/ppmp.list.pdf). Dan > > Microscopic exam is not a CLIA-waived lab, so beware of the increased cost > of the license to do that in office. (unless there is a change that I am > unaware of since one year ago.) I use clinical history, exam and pH paper > (with an occasional send-out of a swab for lab to do a culture or micro > exam) for vaginitis for the reason of cost and " complexity " of non-CLIA > waived labs in office. > > > Ramona Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2006 Report Share Posted November 5, 2006 Hello (this is my first post to this group). If I understand it correctly, according to (www.cms.hhs.gov/CLIA/11_CLIA_Certificate_Fee_Schedule.asp#TopOfPage) it only costs an extra $25 per year to do microscopic exams (www.cms.hhs.gov/CLIA/downloads/ppmp.list.pdf). Dan > > Microscopic exam is not a CLIA-waived lab, so beware of the increased cost > of the license to do that in office. (unless there is a change that I am > unaware of since one year ago.) I use clinical history, exam and pH paper > (with an occasional send-out of a swab for lab to do a culture or micro > exam) for vaginitis for the reason of cost and " complexity " of non-CLIA > waived labs in office. > > > Ramona Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2006 Report Share Posted November 5, 2006 Right, you don't have to have a completely "clia-approved" lab, there is an option for clia-waived plus physician performed microscopy. It was only about $25. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2006 Report Share Posted November 5, 2006 Right, you don't have to have a completely "clia-approved" lab, there is an option for clia-waived plus physician performed microscopy. It was only about $25. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2006 Report Share Posted November 5, 2006 Right, you don't have to have a completely "clia-approved" lab, there is an option for clia-waived plus physician performed microscopy. It was only about $25. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2006 Report Share Posted November 5, 2006 Yes but you need to participate in standards program with abnormals, I believe. For Strep testing in Pennsylvania, I'd have to run 6 more tests per quarter, and since so many insurances in my area won't pay any margin (or pay at all!) for strep testing, I don't do them. By the way, the local ER doesn't even do strep testing!! So you may feel it's good medical practice, but there's a limit to what you can do and " give up " on. Right now, the only office test that Ido that I know I get little/no payment on is a pulse ox. Sadly, Dr Matt Levin Re: Thanks for the input, Keep it coming. > Hello (this is my first post to this group). If I understand it > correctly, according to > (www.cms.hhs.gov/CLIA/11_CLIA_Certificate_Fee_Schedule.asp#TopOfPage) > it only costs an extra $25 per year to do microscopic exams > (www.cms.hhs.gov/CLIA/downloads/ppmp.list.pdf). > > Dan > > >> >> Microscopic exam is not a CLIA-waived lab, so beware of the > increased cost >> of the license to do that in office. (unless there is a change that > I am >> unaware of since one year ago.) I use clinical history, exam and pH > paper >> (with an occasional send-out of a swab for lab to do a culture or micro >> exam) for vaginitis for the reason of cost and " complexity " of non-CLIA >> waived labs in office. >> >> >> Ramona > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2006 Report Share Posted November 5, 2006 Yes but you need to participate in standards program with abnormals, I believe. For Strep testing in Pennsylvania, I'd have to run 6 more tests per quarter, and since so many insurances in my area won't pay any margin (or pay at all!) for strep testing, I don't do them. By the way, the local ER doesn't even do strep testing!! So you may feel it's good medical practice, but there's a limit to what you can do and " give up " on. Right now, the only office test that Ido that I know I get little/no payment on is a pulse ox. Sadly, Dr Matt Levin Re: Thanks for the input, Keep it coming. > Hello (this is my first post to this group). If I understand it > correctly, according to > (www.cms.hhs.gov/CLIA/11_CLIA_Certificate_Fee_Schedule.asp#TopOfPage) > it only costs an extra $25 per year to do microscopic exams > (www.cms.hhs.gov/CLIA/downloads/ppmp.list.pdf). > > Dan > > >> >> Microscopic exam is not a CLIA-waived lab, so beware of the > increased cost >> of the license to do that in office. (unless there is a change that > I am >> unaware of since one year ago.) I use clinical history, exam and pH > paper >> (with an occasional send-out of a swab for lab to do a culture or micro >> exam) for vaginitis for the reason of cost and " complexity " of non-CLIA >> waived labs in office. >> >> >> Ramona > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2006 Report Share Posted November 5, 2006 Yes but you need to participate in standards program with abnormals, I believe. For Strep testing in Pennsylvania, I'd have to run 6 more tests per quarter, and since so many insurances in my area won't pay any margin (or pay at all!) for strep testing, I don't do them. By the way, the local ER doesn't even do strep testing!! So you may feel it's good medical practice, but there's a limit to what you can do and " give up " on. Right now, the only office test that Ido that I know I get little/no payment on is a pulse ox. Sadly, Dr Matt Levin Re: Thanks for the input, Keep it coming. > Hello (this is my first post to this group). If I understand it > correctly, according to > (www.cms.hhs.gov/CLIA/11_CLIA_Certificate_Fee_Schedule.asp#TopOfPage) > it only costs an extra $25 per year to do microscopic exams > (www.cms.hhs.gov/CLIA/downloads/ppmp.list.pdf). > > Dan > > >> >> Microscopic exam is not a CLIA-waived lab, so beware of the > increased cost >> of the license to do that in office. (unless there is a change that > I am >> unaware of since one year ago.) I use clinical history, exam and pH > paper >> (with an occasional send-out of a swab for lab to do a culture or micro >> exam) for vaginitis for the reason of cost and " complexity " of non-CLIA >> waived labs in office. >> >> >> Ramona > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2006 Report Share Posted November 5, 2006 Strep testing = RAPID strep testing Re: Thanks for the input, Keep it coming. > > >> Hello (this is my first post to this group). If I understand it >> correctly, according to >> (www.cms.hhs.gov/CLIA/11_CLIA_Certificate_Fee_Schedule.asp#TopOfPage) >> it only costs an extra $25 per year to do microscopic exams >> (www.cms.hhs.gov/CLIA/downloads/ppmp.list.pdf). >> >> Dan >> >> >>> >>> Microscopic exam is not a CLIA-waived lab, so beware of the >> increased cost >>> of the license to do that in office. (unless there is a change that >> I am >>> unaware of since one year ago.) I use clinical history, exam and pH >> paper >>> (with an occasional send-out of a swab for lab to do a culture or micro >>> exam) for vaginitis for the reason of cost and " complexity " of non-CLIA >>> waived labs in office. >>> >>> >>> Ramona >> >> >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2006 Report Share Posted November 5, 2006 Strep testing = RAPID strep testing Re: Thanks for the input, Keep it coming. > > >> Hello (this is my first post to this group). If I understand it >> correctly, according to >> (www.cms.hhs.gov/CLIA/11_CLIA_Certificate_Fee_Schedule.asp#TopOfPage) >> it only costs an extra $25 per year to do microscopic exams >> (www.cms.hhs.gov/CLIA/downloads/ppmp.list.pdf). >> >> Dan >> >> >>> >>> Microscopic exam is not a CLIA-waived lab, so beware of the >> increased cost >>> of the license to do that in office. (unless there is a change that >> I am >>> unaware of since one year ago.) I use clinical history, exam and pH >> paper >>> (with an occasional send-out of a swab for lab to do a culture or micro >>> exam) for vaginitis for the reason of cost and " complexity " of non-CLIA >>> waived labs in office. >>> >>> >>> Ramona >> >> >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2006 Report Share Posted November 5, 2006 Strep testing = RAPID strep testing Re: Thanks for the input, Keep it coming. > > >> Hello (this is my first post to this group). If I understand it >> correctly, according to >> (www.cms.hhs.gov/CLIA/11_CLIA_Certificate_Fee_Schedule.asp#TopOfPage) >> it only costs an extra $25 per year to do microscopic exams >> (www.cms.hhs.gov/CLIA/downloads/ppmp.list.pdf). >> >> Dan >> >> >>> >>> Microscopic exam is not a CLIA-waived lab, so beware of the >> increased cost >>> of the license to do that in office. (unless there is a change that >> I am >>> unaware of since one year ago.) I use clinical history, exam and pH >> paper >>> (with an occasional send-out of a swab for lab to do a culture or micro >>> exam) for vaginitis for the reason of cost and " complexity " of non-CLIA >>> waived labs in office. >>> >>> >>> Ramona >> >> >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2006 Report Share Posted November 5, 2006 Yes, when I looked into this level of license, it was not the annual cost alone but the burden of proving competency, (and enrolling in a program to do this that added complexity to running the office and increased cost in " staff " time (ie MY time) to do it correctly) that scared me away... Ramona Seidel, MD Re: Re: Thanks for the input, Keep it coming. Yes but you need to participate in standards program with abnormals, I believe. For Strep testing in Pennsylvania, I'd have to run 6 more tests per quarter, and since so many insurances in my area won't pay any margin (or pay at all!) for strep testing, I don't do them. By the way, the local ER doesn't even do strep testing!! So you may feel it's good medical practice, but there's a limit to what you can do and " give up " on. Right now, the only office test that Ido that I know I get little/no payment on is a pulse ox. Sadly, Dr Matt Levin Re: Thanks for the input, Keep it coming. > Hello (this is my first post to this group). If I understand it > correctly, according to > (www.cms.hhs.gov/CLIA/11_CLIA_Certificate_Fee_Schedule.asp#TopOfPage) > it only costs an extra $25 per year to do microscopic exams > (www.cms.hhs.gov/CLIA/downloads/ppmp.list.pdf). > > Dan > > >> >> Microscopic exam is not a CLIA-waived lab, so beware of the > increased cost >> of the license to do that in office. (unless there is a change that > I am >> unaware of since one year ago.) I use clinical history, exam and pH > paper >> (with an occasional send-out of a swab for lab to do a culture or micro >> exam) for vaginitis for the reason of cost and " complexity " of non-CLIA >> waived labs in office. >> >> >> Ramona > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2006 Report Share Posted November 5, 2006 I think from previous posts that only applies to Penn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2006 Report Share Posted November 5, 2006 I think from previous posts that only applies to Penn. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2006 Report Share Posted November 5, 2006 And what is typical reimbursement for doing a wet prep or urine micro? I don’t do them because I feared that for all the extra aggravation, it would take me 7 or 8 years to recoup the cost of the microscope..Not worth it in my book. Annie Re: Thanks for the input, Keep it coming. Hello (this is my first post to this group). If I understand it correctly, according to (www.cms.hhs.gov/CLIA/11_CLIA_Certificate_Fee_Schedule.asp#TopOfPage) it only costs an extra $25 per year to do microscopic exams (www.cms.hhs.gov/CLIA/downloads/ppmp.list.pdf). Dan > > Microscopic exam is not a CLIA-waived lab, so beware of the increased cost > of the license to do that in office. (unless there is a change that I am > unaware of since one year ago.) I use clinical history, exam and pH paper > (with an occasional send-out of a swab for lab to do a culture or micro > exam) for vaginitis for the reason of cost and " complexity " of non-CLIA > waived labs in office. > > > Ramona Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2006 Report Share Posted November 5, 2006 And what is typical reimbursement for doing a wet prep or urine micro? I don’t do them because I feared that for all the extra aggravation, it would take me 7 or 8 years to recoup the cost of the microscope..Not worth it in my book. Annie Re: Thanks for the input, Keep it coming. Hello (this is my first post to this group). If I understand it correctly, according to (www.cms.hhs.gov/CLIA/11_CLIA_Certificate_Fee_Schedule.asp#TopOfPage) it only costs an extra $25 per year to do microscopic exams (www.cms.hhs.gov/CLIA/downloads/ppmp.list.pdf). Dan > > Microscopic exam is not a CLIA-waived lab, so beware of the increased cost > of the license to do that in office. (unless there is a change that I am > unaware of since one year ago.) I use clinical history, exam and pH paper > (with an occasional send-out of a swab for lab to do a culture or micro > exam) for vaginitis for the reason of cost and " complexity " of non-CLIA > waived labs in office. > > > Ramona Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 5, 2006 Report Share Posted November 5, 2006 Re proving competency 1) Yes, added cost to " do unknowns " at so many per testor per quarter 2) Cost of any competency testing program Perhaps this is the " dividing line " of hospitals vs physician practices, ie, hospital labs (or commercial labs for that matter) should do a majority of testing, AND docs should run a majority of outpt office practices????? Dr Matt Levin FP, Solo since Dec 2004 Worked for others (HMO, hospital) from July 1988 to above 30 miles east of Pittsburgh, PA Re: Thanks for the input, Keep it coming. > > >> Hello (this is my first post to this group). If I understand it >> correctly, according to >> (www.cms.hhs.gov/CLIA/11_CLIA_Certificate_Fee_Schedule.asp#TopOfPage) >> it only costs an extra $25 per year to do microscopic exams >> (www.cms.hhs.gov/CLIA/downloads/ppmp.list.pdf). >> >> Dan >> >> >>> >>> Microscopic exam is not a CLIA-waived lab, so beware of the >> increased cost >>> of the license to do that in office. (unless there is a change that >> I am >>> unaware of since one year ago.) I use clinical history, exam and pH >> paper >>> (with an occasional send-out of a swab for lab to do a culture or micro >>> exam) for vaginitis for the reason of cost and " complexity " of non-CLIA >>> waived labs in office. >>> >>> >>> Ramona >> >> >> >> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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