Re: SV: Re: Aspie inventiveness?

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I am seriously thinking it would be more like what many in America may consider a "commune" or "Co-Op" and there are a few "farms" but they seem to be more of a real farm and working with lower functioning AS adults. I am thinking of a large community that is gated off, much like a small town, and that way everyone can live in their own houses and some can run their business and others can go to town if they have skills and regualr jobs if they want to live in a community that is smaller and with a common vision. But it will also allow those that have not yet figured out very good job skills or cannot manage a full time job or cannot "work" in the traditional sense live in a descent and safe community. Helping each other help each other and not allow any "business" to come in and take advantage of others or any "neighbors" too. May be too much for me to do alone or start but a though. RuthLotta Abrahamsson wrote:

Well if you manage to to that (now disregard lousy examples like Israel and Palestine)

could you send me a mail so I can apply for citizenship?...

Lotta

-----Ursprungligt meddelande-----Från: Ruth ES Skickat: den 13 mars 2005 21:47Till: FAMSecretSociety Ämne: Re: Re: Aspie inventiveness?

I want to build a real life community that is run by and lived by AS individuals only. Any clue how to do that?

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If someone has an idea they think is really good and would like topursue commercializing it, I have connections and some credibilitywith the Silicon Valley venture capital and angel communities. Thereare subsidized incubators there as well that nurture ideas untilenough has been demonstrated to market them. You absolutely need to consider the marketability of an idea, and thatmeans getting hooked in to the what's going on and trends in thatindustry. If you have something you'd like to pursue, let know and I'll try tosteer you in the right direction.Ken > > Now, if someone was really smart - and rich - they could find> > Aspies from all over the world, not focus overly on their> > official credentials, just on their great ideas, and offer> > the help to produce, patent and market these ideas and> > then share the profits. It could actually be like> > an Aspie co-op where the inventors were also> > [be] shareholders. Wouldn't that be cool?> > Definitely cool, but does not address the basic issues of how to > produce and market the ideas.> > Significantly, the hard part is the

engineering and development. > So for the most part, businesses specialise in particular > industrial niches. A semiconductor company will focus on a > particular type of IC circuit, such a processors and SRAMs > (Intel), signal processing (Cirrus Logic), or circuit arrays > such as memory (Micron).> > There are models for what you suggest. Edison and others > developed an array of new ideas. Energy Conversion > Devices/Ovonics founded by Stan Ovshinsky, Sarnoff Labs (RCA > Sarnoff Labs) and a few other companies are in the new > technology development business. Most or all of these companies > focus on the credentials because the substance of development is > taking the idea from the raw idea stage to a functional > prototype which can be sold to industry.> > So an "idea" company which simply generates ideas would not be > able to develop

enough viable products to sustain itself.> > That leaves consulting firms and think tanks. But these > definitely base their credibility on the credentials of their > employees.> > - s> > > > FAM Secret Society is a community based on respect, friendship,support and acceptance. Everyone is valued. > > Don't forget, all female members of FAM Secret Society may join FAMLadies' Lodge http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/FAMLadiesLodge/ andall males from Secret Society may join FAM Gentlemen's Guildhttp://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/FAMGentlemensGuild/. > > >

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I am seriously thinking it would be more like what many in America may consider a "commune" or "Co-Op" and there are a few "farms" but they seem to be more of a real farm and working with lower functioning AS adults. I am thinking of a large community that is gated off, much like a small town, and that way everyone can live in their own houses and some can run their business and others can go to town if they have skills and regualr jobs if they want to live in a community that is smaller and with a common vision. But it will also allow those that have not yet figured out very good job skills or cannot manage a full time job or cannot "work" in the traditional sense live in a descent and safe community. Helping each other help each other and not allow any "business" to come in and take advantage of others or any "neighbors" too. May be too much for me to do alone or start but a though. RuthLotta Abrahamsson wrote:

Well if you manage to to that (now disregard lousy examples like Israel and Palestine)

could you send me a mail so I can apply for citizenship?...

Lotta

-----Ursprungligt meddelande-----Från: Ruth ES Skickat: den 13 mars 2005 21:47Till: FAMSecretSociety Ämne: Re: Re: Aspie inventiveness?

I want to build a real life community that is run by and lived by AS individuals only. Any clue how to do that?

rubenken2000 wrote:

If someone has an idea they think is really good and would like topursue commercializing it, I have connections and some credibilitywith the Silicon Valley venture capital and angel communities. Thereare subsidized incubators there as well that nurture ideas untilenough has been demonstrated to market them. You absolutely need to consider the marketability of an idea, and thatmeans getting hooked in to the what's going on and trends in thatindustry. If you have something you'd like to pursue, let know and I'll try tosteer you in the right direction.Ken > > Now, if someone was really smart - and rich - they could find> > Aspies from all over the world, not focus overly on their> > official credentials, just on their great ideas, and offer> > the help to produce, patent and market these ideas and> > then share the profits. It could actually be like> > an Aspie co-op where the inventors were also> > [be] shareholders. Wouldn't that be cool?> > Definitely cool, but does not address the basic issues of how to > produce and market the ideas.> > Significantly, the hard part is the

engineering and development. > So for the most part, businesses specialise in particular > industrial niches. A semiconductor company will focus on a > particular type of IC circuit, such a processors and SRAMs > (Intel), signal processing (Cirrus Logic), or circuit arrays > such as memory (Micron).> > There are models for what you suggest. Edison and others > developed an array of new ideas. Energy Conversion > Devices/Ovonics founded by Stan Ovshinsky, Sarnoff Labs (RCA > Sarnoff Labs) and a few other companies are in the new > technology development business. Most or all of these companies > focus on the credentials because the substance of development is > taking the idea from the raw idea stage to a functional > prototype which can be sold to industry.> > So an "idea" company which simply generates ideas would not be > able to develop

enough viable products to sustain itself.> > That leaves consulting firms and think tanks. But these > definitely base their credibility on the credentials of their > employees.> > - s> > > > FAM Secret Society is a community based on respect, friendship,support and acceptance. Everyone is valued. > > Don't forget, all female members of FAM Secret Society may join FAMLadies' Lodge http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/FAMLadiesLodge/ andall males from Secret Society may join FAM Gentlemen's Guildhttp://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/FAMGentlemensGuild/. > > >

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For AS individuals?rubenken2000 wrote:

The only community that I know of like this is Auroville in SouthernIndia. It was started by the Indian activist and spiritual teacher,Aurobindo Ghose, now deceased. The community is still thriving. If youknow of , one of the founders of Esalen, he spent timethere in the 1950s. Many westerners live and work in the community.You can probably Google it and find info about it. I think books havebeen written as well.Ken> > > Now, if someone was really smart - and rich - they could find> > > Aspies from all over the world, not focus overly on their> > > official credentials, just on their great ideas, and

offer> > > the help to produce, patent and market these ideas and> > > then share the profits. It could actually be like> > > an Aspie co-op where the inventors were also> > > [be] shareholders. Wouldn't that be cool?> > > > Definitely cool, but does not address the basic issues of how to > > produce and market the ideas.> > > > Significantly, the hard part is the engineering and development. > > So for the most part, businesses specialise in particular > > industrial niches. A semiconductor company will focus on a > > particular type of IC circuit, such a processors and SRAMs > > (Intel), signal processing (Cirrus Logic), or circuit arrays > > such as memory (Micron).> > > > There are models for what you suggest. Edison and others > > developed an array of new ideas. Energy Conversion

> > Devices/Ovonics founded by Stan Ovshinsky, Sarnoff Labs (RCA > > Sarnoff Labs) and a few other companies are in the new > > technology development business. Most or all of these companies > > focus on the credentials because the substance of development is > > taking the idea from the raw idea stage to a functional > > prototype which can be sold to industry.> > > > So an "idea" company which simply generates ideas would not be > > able to develop enough viable products to sustain itself.> > > > That leaves consulting firms and think tanks. But these > > definitely base their credibility on the credentials of their > > employees.> > > > - s> > > > > > > > FAM Secret Society is a community based on respect, friendship,> support and acceptance. Everyone is valued. >

> > > Don't forget, all female members of FAM Secret Society may join FAM> Ladies' Lodge http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/FAMLadiesLodge/ and> all males from Secret Society may join FAM Gentlemen's Guild> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/FAMGentlemensGuild/. > > > > > >

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For AS individuals?rubenken2000 wrote:

The only community that I know of like this is Auroville in SouthernIndia. It was started by the Indian activist and spiritual teacher,Aurobindo Ghose, now deceased. The community is still thriving. If youknow of , one of the founders of Esalen, he spent timethere in the 1950s. Many westerners live and work in the community.You can probably Google it and find info about it. I think books havebeen written as well.Ken> > > Now, if someone was really smart - and rich - they could find> > > Aspies from all over the world, not focus overly on their> > > official credentials, just on their great ideas, and

offer> > > the help to produce, patent and market these ideas and> > > then share the profits. It could actually be like> > > an Aspie co-op where the inventors were also> > > [be] shareholders. Wouldn't that be cool?> > > > Definitely cool, but does not address the basic issues of how to > > produce and market the ideas.> > > > Significantly, the hard part is the engineering and development. > > So for the most part, businesses specialise in particular > > industrial niches. A semiconductor company will focus on a > > particular type of IC circuit, such a processors and SRAMs > > (Intel), signal processing (Cirrus Logic), or circuit arrays > > such as memory (Micron).> > > > There are models for what you suggest. Edison and others > > developed an array of new ideas. Energy Conversion

> > Devices/Ovonics founded by Stan Ovshinsky, Sarnoff Labs (RCA > > Sarnoff Labs) and a few other companies are in the new > > technology development business. Most or all of these companies > > focus on the credentials because the substance of development is > > taking the idea from the raw idea stage to a functional > > prototype which can be sold to industry.> > > > So an "idea" company which simply generates ideas would not be > > able to develop enough viable products to sustain itself.> > > > That leaves consulting firms and think tanks. But these > > definitely base their credibility on the credentials of their > > employees.> > > > - s> > > > > > > > FAM Secret Society is a community based on respect, friendship,> support and acceptance. Everyone is valued. >

> > > Don't forget, all female members of FAM Secret Society may join FAM> Ladies' Lodge http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/FAMLadiesLodge/ and> all males from Secret Society may join FAM Gentlemen's Guild> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/FAMGentlemensGuild/. > > > > > >

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For AS individuals?rubenken2000 wrote:

The only community that I know of like this is Auroville in SouthernIndia. It was started by the Indian activist and spiritual teacher,Aurobindo Ghose, now deceased. The community is still thriving. If youknow of , one of the founders of Esalen, he spent timethere in the 1950s. Many westerners live and work in the community.You can probably Google it and find info about it. I think books havebeen written as well.Ken> > > Now, if someone was really smart - and rich - they could find> > > Aspies from all over the world, not focus overly on their> > > official credentials, just on their great ideas, and

offer> > > the help to produce, patent and market these ideas and> > > then share the profits. It could actually be like> > > an Aspie co-op where the inventors were also> > > [be] shareholders. Wouldn't that be cool?> > > > Definitely cool, but does not address the basic issues of how to > > produce and market the ideas.> > > > Significantly, the hard part is the engineering and development. > > So for the most part, businesses specialise in particular > > industrial niches. A semiconductor company will focus on a > > particular type of IC circuit, such a processors and SRAMs > > (Intel), signal processing (Cirrus Logic), or circuit arrays > > such as memory (Micron).> > > > There are models for what you suggest. Edison and others > > developed an array of new ideas. Energy Conversion

> > Devices/Ovonics founded by Stan Ovshinsky, Sarnoff Labs (RCA > > Sarnoff Labs) and a few other companies are in the new > > technology development business. Most or all of these companies > > focus on the credentials because the substance of development is > > taking the idea from the raw idea stage to a functional > > prototype which can be sold to industry.> > > > So an "idea" company which simply generates ideas would not be > > able to develop enough viable products to sustain itself.> > > > That leaves consulting firms and think tanks. But these > > definitely base their credibility on the credentials of their > > employees.> > > > - s> > > > > > > > FAM Secret Society is a community based on respect, friendship,> support and acceptance. Everyone is valued. >

> > > Don't forget, all female members of FAM Secret Society may join FAM> Ladies' Lodge http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/FAMLadiesLodge/ and> all males from Secret Society may join FAM Gentlemen's Guild> http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/FAMGentlemensGuild/. > > > > > >

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There are several places similar to what I am referring to but none of them are specifically for AS individuals. I did have more information before because I have a sister that is very much of the flower child generation and there are still enough people making co-op places available. Some have managed for awhile now. I just realized it is not something I can do alone so I put it to the back of my mind. But since you asked I thought I would mention it.

Ruthrubenken2000 wrote:

No it's a spiritual community, but it's the only community oflike-minded people that I know of that's succeeded for as long asAuroville.Ken> > > > Now, if someone was really smart - and rich - they could find> > > > Aspies from all over the world, not focus overly on their> > > > official credentials, just on their great ideas, and offer> > > > the help to produce, patent and market these ideas and> > > > then share the profits. It could actually be like> > > > an Aspie co-op where the inventors were also> > >

> [be] shareholders. Wouldn't that be cool?> > > > > > Definitely cool, but does not address the basic issues of how to > > > produce and market the ideas.> > > > > > Significantly, the hard part is the engineering and development. > > > So for the most part, businesses specialise in particular > > > industrial niches. A semiconductor company will focus on a > > > particular type of IC circuit, such a processors and SRAMs > > > (Intel), signal processing (Cirrus Logic), or circuit arrays > > > such as memory (Micron).> > > > > > There are models for what you suggest. Edison and others > > > developed an array of new ideas. Energy Conversion > > > Devices/Ovonics founded by Stan Ovshinsky, Sarnoff Labs (RCA > > > Sarnoff Labs) and a few other companies are in the new

> > > technology development business. Most or all of these companies > > > focus on the credentials because the substance of development is > > > taking the idea from the raw idea stage to a functional > > > prototype which can be sold to industry.> > > > > > So an "idea" company which simply generates ideas would not be > > > able to develop enough viable products to sustain itself.> > > > > > That leaves consulting firms and think tanks. But these > > > definitely base their credibility on the credentials of their > > > employees.> > > > > > - s> > > > > > > > > > > > FAM Secret Society is a community based on respect, friendship,> > support and acceptance. Everyone is valued. > > > > > > Don't forget, all female

members of FAM Secret Society may join FAM> > Ladies' Lodge http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/FAMLadiesLodge/ and> > all males from Secret Society may join FAM Gentlemen's Guild> > http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/FAMGentlemensGuild/. > > > > > > > > >