Guest guest Posted September 12, 2004 Report Share Posted September 12, 2004 Hi, Randy. My girls both have problems with scrupulosity and my husband is very religious. His " zealousness " is food for the OCD. Educate the people in your church about OCD--frequently the leaders in a church are familiar with OCD and can be very supportive. I have found that people respond well when I remind them that everyone finds God in his or her own time and that God knows my kids better than anyone and that He understands OCD. He is not going to hold " mental illness " against my girls! Hang in there--we haven't even started tackling this one yet! Kelley in NV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2004 Report Share Posted September 12, 2004 Hi, Randy. My girls both have problems with scrupulosity and my husband is very religious. His " zealousness " is food for the OCD. Educate the people in your church about OCD--frequently the leaders in a church are familiar with OCD and can be very supportive. I have found that people respond well when I remind them that everyone finds God in his or her own time and that God knows my kids better than anyone and that He understands OCD. He is not going to hold " mental illness " against my girls! Hang in there--we haven't even started tackling this one yet! Kelley in NV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2004 Report Share Posted September 12, 2004 Hi Randy, yes my child has struggled with scrupulosity as well. At one point, before she was adequately treated, I had to plot my routes through town to avoid passing a church, any church, because the hysterical reactions she had to these triggers were downright dangerous in the car. She had an obsession that God hated her, and that she hated God, if he was even real. Later any cross or cross-like thing would also trigger her. The good news is that all types of OCD symptoms--scrupe thoughts and compulsions, over apologizing, and so on--can be reduced and eliminated with expert CBT and targeted ERP exposures. In this way, OCD is OCD is OCD and the specific content of obsessions and compulsions doesn't matter too much. I don't think it is known why some OCDer's symptoms cluster around contamination, for example, while another's have to do with harm or scrupe, but with CBT/ERP it doesn't matter, she can still get well and fairly quickly too. If your daughter is not in this type of behavior therapy for her OCD, I highly suggest that you look into finding her an expert therapist. Does she take an SSRI medication? SSRIs such as Prozac and Zoloft (there are others) are the first-line medical (drug) treatment for OCD in children. They frequently need to be given in a higher dosage than for depression to be effective against OCD. Take care, Kathy R. in Indiana ----- Original Message ----- > I haven't seen anyone post about scrupulosity. Does anyone else have a > child or teen that has problems with OCD and religion issues? > > My daughter is troubled by intrusive religious thoughts... she says she > wants to be baptized (all her peers were baptized years ago) but she's > confused and she gets very upset about it. Some of her thoughts are, > > " God isn't real " > " Jesus was selfish " > " He deserved to suffer. " > " I don't really believe. " > > She also apologizes too much, which I've read is also a symptom of > scrupulosity. She said one of her teachers gets annoyed because she > apologizes too much... she can't stand it if she feels someone is angry > or disappointed in her. > > I don't think anyone at my church understands about the baptism thing. I > feel very alone with this problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2004 Report Share Posted September 12, 2004 Hi Randy, yes my child has struggled with scrupulosity as well. At one point, before she was adequately treated, I had to plot my routes through town to avoid passing a church, any church, because the hysterical reactions she had to these triggers were downright dangerous in the car. She had an obsession that God hated her, and that she hated God, if he was even real. Later any cross or cross-like thing would also trigger her. The good news is that all types of OCD symptoms--scrupe thoughts and compulsions, over apologizing, and so on--can be reduced and eliminated with expert CBT and targeted ERP exposures. In this way, OCD is OCD is OCD and the specific content of obsessions and compulsions doesn't matter too much. I don't think it is known why some OCDer's symptoms cluster around contamination, for example, while another's have to do with harm or scrupe, but with CBT/ERP it doesn't matter, she can still get well and fairly quickly too. If your daughter is not in this type of behavior therapy for her OCD, I highly suggest that you look into finding her an expert therapist. Does she take an SSRI medication? SSRIs such as Prozac and Zoloft (there are others) are the first-line medical (drug) treatment for OCD in children. They frequently need to be given in a higher dosage than for depression to be effective against OCD. Take care, Kathy R. in Indiana ----- Original Message ----- > I haven't seen anyone post about scrupulosity. Does anyone else have a > child or teen that has problems with OCD and religion issues? > > My daughter is troubled by intrusive religious thoughts... she says she > wants to be baptized (all her peers were baptized years ago) but she's > confused and she gets very upset about it. Some of her thoughts are, > > " God isn't real " > " Jesus was selfish " > " He deserved to suffer. " > " I don't really believe. " > > She also apologizes too much, which I've read is also a symptom of > scrupulosity. She said one of her teachers gets annoyed because she > apologizes too much... she can't stand it if she feels someone is angry > or disappointed in her. > > I don't think anyone at my church understands about the baptism thing. I > feel very alone with this problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2004 Report Share Posted September 18, 2004 Our 14 ds has suffered from scrup issues in his OCD along with fear of illness/death. He has not wanted to talk about the scrup issues as much as the others. I'm wondering what ERP/CBT has been suggested for those whose kids are suffering from scrup issues. For example, we belong to a small church and have a close church family. For a while, I was avoiding contact with them for fear of setting our son off. Things are better now but I'm still wondering if he's just covering up the scrup issues as he gets very restless whenever he hears anything " religious " anymore. For example, if he had a fear of the devil, do I tell him the devil will get him? Just trying to put this together before our next therapy appt. Thanks in advance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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