Re: Finger sticks

April 21, 2001

:

We only get finger sticks if just a simple CBC is needed. For instance, we

did a CBC and blood culture on day one of a fever, and that required a big

stick in the crook of the arm. But on day three we wanted to re-do the CBC,

so just did a finger stick. Of course, after subsequent conversation with

immuno, they had to go ahead and do another culture, PLUS give Rocephin in

the thigh. So nice little finger stick ended up to be just an extra stick!!!

They can only get a very small amount out of the finger, so can't test much

with it.

They can test it in the ped's office only if the ped has the machine... at

's ped they can do a CBC right there and it only takes a few minutes to

analyze.

Hope that helps --

(mom to , age 2, antibody def, IgA def, partial T-cell def (CD3 &

CD19) - not on IGIV yet)

April 21, 2001

:

We only get finger sticks if just a simple CBC is needed. For instance, we

did a CBC and blood culture on day one of a fever, and that required a big

stick in the crook of the arm. But on day three we wanted to re-do the CBC,

so just did a finger stick. Of course, after subsequent conversation with

immuno, they had to go ahead and do another culture, PLUS give Rocephin in

the thigh. So nice little finger stick ended up to be just an extra stick!!!

They can only get a very small amount out of the finger, so can't test much

with it.

They can test it in the ped's office only if the ped has the machine... at

's ped they can do a CBC right there and it only takes a few minutes to

analyze.

Hope that helps --

(mom to , age 2, antibody def, IgA def, partial T-cell def (CD3 &

CD19) - not on IGIV yet)

April 21, 2001

you can also do a finger stick for a basic chemistry panel. But most

doctors offices don't do chemistries. Regardless they can do the finger

stick and then send it to the lab. Remember not only are you saving the

child trauma but you're saving that vein trauma and sooner or later those

veins might try to scar.

Ursula Holleman

Macey's mom (5 yr. old with CVID, asthma, sinus disease, GERD, kidney

reflux, Sensory Integration Disorder, Diabetes Insipidus)

http://home.att.net/~maceyh/

April 21, 2001

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<P> & nbsp;When my girls go to clinic for their appts

they gt a finger stick. & nbsp; Only a little blood is

needed for a CBC and even less for chemistries. & nbsp;

Although at our local hospital they need more

blood. & nbsp; I do ask them to do a finger stick on

them as long as they don't need a culture. & nbsp; & nbsp;

<P> & nbsp; <B><I>Ursula Holleman

& lt;uahollem@... & gt;</I></B> wrote: <BR>

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April 22, 2001

Pattie, what is a butterfly needle?

Something TOTALLY off the subject- I cant help but notice each time I read

your emails the 'Peace Be With You' at the very bottom. It NEVER fails to

make me smile because it reminds me of my FIL at church. He gets dragged

there occasionally (under protest!) by my MIL, and it was only recently that

we found out when everyone shakes hands in the congregation and says 'peace

be with you', he has for years (in all seriousness) been saying 'Pleased

to Meet You' . LOL! Did he get a shock when someone finally told him!

Re: Finger sticks

> Finger sticks for routine CBCs are okay-- but the platelet count may be

> off-- because of them having to rub the site to get the blood. To be

> honest, my kids freak out more about finger sticks than the butterfly

> needle in the arm.

>

> --

> Peace Be With You!

>

> ~Pattie~ Mom to , 7; 4 3/4 (SDS,

> hypogammaglobulinemia/CVID) and ph 3 1/2 (SDS)

> " The friend who finds you when you might be lost is a very welcome

> friend. " ~~Lessons from the Hundred-Acre Wood

>

> This forum is open to parents and caregivers of children diagnosed with a

Primary Immune Deficiency. Opinions or medical advice stated here are the

sole responsibility of the poster and should not be taken as professional

advice.

>

April 22, 2001

In a message dated 4/22/01 2:16:11 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

paxchristi@... writes:

>

That is called a butterfly. We also use them for IVs but they are great for

drawing blood in kids because people are less likely to go through the vein.

BARBIE

April 22, 2001

In a message dated 4/22/01 2:16:11 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

paxchristi@... writes:

>

That is called a butterfly. We also use them for IVs but they are great for

drawing blood in kids because people are less likely to go through the vein.

BARBIE

April 22, 2001

In a message dated 4/22/01 2:16:11 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

paxchristi@... writes:

>

That is called a butterfly. We also use them for IVs but they are great for

drawing blood in kids because people are less likely to go through the vein.

BARBIE

April 22, 2001

Question: When they " blow a vein " during a big draw, is it because they went

through the vein? Or is it something out of the phleb's control? Just curious.

Em had nightmares last night and then a tantrum (it was not a night terror

though, she was awake), then a tantrum as soon as she woke up today. When she

woke (before tantrum) she was saying " Dr. Wittert help " so I bet she was

having bad dreams about medical stuff. Sigh.

She had a big blotchy rash on her tummy which was spreading and becoming more

vivid over the next hour, in which she had two more tantrums as well. I took

her in and it appears to be a viral syndrome, which makes sense with the

fevers of late. She had 102.8 Wed, Thurs, Fri, then okay yesterday and now

rash, which this ped says is practically " textbook " . So at least that's a

relief that nothing bacterial was probably brewing.

I'm at a loss of how to handle the behavior, though. She's been through so

much lately and always, so I want to be understanding and patient. But I

don't know which of the tantrums are from stress and trauma or sickness, or

if any are " tyrannical " . I don't " reward " tantrums, but I'm still figuring

out what works for her. Like, she hates to be held during them, and today she

even wanted me to leave her room and close her door. I tried it for a few

minutes but the screaming didn't decrease a bit, and after that I didn't feel

comfortable " abandoning " her even though she wanted me to. She screams and

thrashes and whips herself around, sometimes throws things. The screaming is

a problem because we're in a condo, our neighbor below has put up with a lot

from us. But letting her " scream it out " is not working at this point, she's

had tantrums for up to 40 minutes and then I worry there's something " wrong "

with her. I'm so discouraged right now.

I'm the first to admit I need a break at this point, and I haven't slept the

whole night through for two weeks either. And the thing is that when she's

been sick like this she wants only ME, not Daddy, so just when I need a break

the most I can't take it, because she's so upset without me.

And I'm a little scared because she's been getting virus after virus after

virus almost nonstop since February. I'm happy for no bacterial infections

and nothing life-threatening, but she just keeps getting so sick with these

nagging things. It's just wearing on me right now, that's all. And imagine

how it is for her.

Sorry so glum.

(mom to , age 2, antibody def, IgA def, partial T-cell def (CD3 &

CD19) - not on IGIV yet)

April 22, 2001