Re: medicare copay and deductible, and alternative financing

[Guest guest]

With great sensitivity and deferrence to those of you in highly competitive markets (Annie et. al) I would like otherwise like to echo Larry's sentiments. It is just so difficult to sit on the sidelines are hear such great motivated IMP docs gritch without chiming in now and then. But to the rest of you in less cut-throat markets, I would suggest that you seriously reflect on how much effort (and overhead -- don't forget that your time is valuable too!) is involved in "niggling the margin" dealing with insurance companies, Medicare and Medicaid. Certainly as a percentage of listserv traffic it is huge. Reconsider how being a non-participant in these programs and charging people what you like would open up your practice. Gordon's same low overhead mantra carried a little further allows you to quit wasting your time with insurance and the government, further cut overhead, provide great service and have more time for

patients . So long as you have work, it will slash your headaches too. It will open you up to a BIG group of patients many of you may be missing now -- the uninsured. Most are very willing to pay a reasonable price for primary medical care -- they just can't afford the $800/month premium. I was really impressed by Seto's reference: Speaking of the Frappr map (http://www.frappr.com/medicalmicropractices), I noticed a new name on it that I haven't seen before on this listserve: Dr. Albenberg of ton, SC. I found this article about his unique practice: http://www.charlestonbusiness.com/issues/6_14/news/2889-1.html. This looks like

a very do-able model. For those of your disinclined to being solely a "for profit" enterprise -- consider giving away 10% of your care, or even go wild and try 50-50 by using the Robin Hood model. My apologies for being preachy, but it is so hard to see y'all sweat that $9.91. And to those of you in struggling markets, my apologies if I make it sound too easy. I am very thankful that RJ and I have a great community situation and wish you all did too. Bob Forester lawrence lyon wrote: after hearing this thread, i am again re-affirmed in not accepting medicare/medicaid. additionally, regarding alternatives in financing, and with perspective of this thread, i can only say, yoo-hoo! the system is broken, that's b-r-o-k-e-n, broken. LL Cheap Talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. Sponsored LinkMortgage rates near 39yr lows. $310,000 Mortgage for $999/mo - Calculate new house payment

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[Guest guest]

With great sensitivity and deferrence to those of you in highly competitive markets (Annie et. al) I would like otherwise like to echo Larry's sentiments. It is just so difficult to sit on the sidelines are hear such great motivated IMP docs gritch without chiming in now and then. But to the rest of you in less cut-throat markets, I would suggest that you seriously reflect on how much effort (and overhead -- don't forget that your time is valuable too!) is involved in "niggling the margin" dealing with insurance companies, Medicare and Medicaid. Certainly as a percentage of listserv traffic it is huge. Reconsider how being a non-participant in these programs and charging people what you like would open up your practice. Gordon's same low overhead mantra carried a little further allows you to quit wasting your time with insurance and the government, further cut overhead, provide great service and have more time for

patients . So long as you have work, it will slash your headaches too. It will open you up to a BIG group of patients many of you may be missing now -- the uninsured. Most are very willing to pay a reasonable price for primary medical care -- they just can't afford the $800/month premium. I was really impressed by Seto's reference: Speaking of the Frappr map (http://www.frappr.com/medicalmicropractices), I noticed a new name on it that I haven't seen before on this listserve: Dr. Albenberg of ton, SC. I found this article about his unique practice: http://www.charlestonbusiness.com/issues/6_14/news/2889-1.html. This looks like

a very do-able model. For those of your disinclined to being solely a "for profit" enterprise -- consider giving away 10% of your care, or even go wild and try 50-50 by using the Robin Hood model. My apologies for being preachy, but it is so hard to see y'all sweat that $9.91. And to those of you in struggling markets, my apologies if I make it sound too easy. I am very thankful that RJ and I have a great community situation and wish you all did too. Bob Forester lawrence lyon wrote: after hearing this thread, i am again re-affirmed in not accepting medicare/medicaid. additionally, regarding alternatives in financing, and with perspective of this thread, i can only say, yoo-hoo! the system is broken, that's b-r-o-k-e-n, broken. LL Cheap Talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. Sponsored LinkMortgage rates near 39yr lows. $310,000 Mortgage for $999/mo - Calculate new house payment

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[Guest guest]

With great sensitivity and deference to those of you in highly

competitive markets (Annie et. al) I would like otherwise like to

echo Larry's sentiments. It is just so difficult to sit on the

sidelines are hear such great motivated IMP docs gritch without

chiming in now and then.

But to the rest of you in less cut-throat markets, I would suggest

that you seriously reflect on how much effort (and overhead -- don't

forget that your time is valuable too!) is involved in " niggling the

margin " dealing with insurance companies, Medicare and Medicaid.

Certainly as a percentage of listserv traffic it is huge. Reconsider

how being a non-participant in these programs and charging people

what you like would open up your practice. Gordon's same low

overhead mantra carried a little further allows you to quit wasting

your time with insurance and the government, further cut overhead,

provide great service and have more time for patients . So long as

you have work, it will slash your headaches too. It will open you up

to a BIG group of patients many of you may be missing now -- the

uninsured. Most are very willing to pay a reasonable price for

primary medical care -- they just can't afford the $800/month

premium.

I was really impressed by Seto's reference:

Speaking of the Frappr map

(http://www.frappr.com/medicalmicropractices), I noticed a new name

on it that I haven't seen before on this listserve: Dr.

Albenberg of ton, SC. I found this article about his unique

practice: http://www.charlestonbusiness.com/issues/6_14/news/2889-

1.html.

This looks like a very do-able model. For those of your disinclined

to being solely a " for profit " enterprise -- consider giving away

10% of your care, or even go wild and try 50-50 by using the Robin

Hood model.

My apologies for being preachy, but it is so hard to see y'all sweat

that $9.91. And to those of you in struggling markets, my apologies

if I make it sound too easy. I am very thankful that RJ and I have a

great community situation and wish you all did too.

Bob Forester

>

> after hearing this thread, i am again re-affirmed in not accepting

medicare/medicaid.

> additionally, regarding alternatives in financing, and with

perspective of this thread,

> i can only say,

> yoo-hoo! the system is broken, that's b-r-o-k-e-n, broken.

>

> LL

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> Cheap Talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call

rates.

>

[Guest guest]

Re: medicare copay and deductible, and

alternative financing

With great sensitivity and deference to those of you in highly

competitive markets (Annie et. al) I would like otherwise like to

echo Larry's sentiments. It is just so difficult to sit on the

sidelines are hear such great motivated IMP docs gritch without

chiming in now and then.

But to the rest of you in less cut-throat markets, I would suggest

that you seriously reflect on how much effort (and overhead -- don't

forget that your time is valuable too!) is involved in " niggling the

margin " dealing with insurance companies, Medicare and Medicaid.

Certainly as a percentage of listserv traffic it is huge. Reconsider

how being a non-participant in these programs and charging people

what you like would open up your practice. Gordon's same low

overhead mantra carried a little further allows you to quit wasting

your time with insurance and the government, further cut overhead,

provide great service and have more time for patients . So long as

you have work, it will slash your headaches too. It will open you up

to a BIG group of patients many of you may be missing now -- the

uninsured. Most are very willing to pay a reasonable price for

primary medical care -- they just can't afford the $800/month

premium.

I was really impressed by Seto's reference:

Speaking of the Frappr map

( http://www.frappr. <http://www.frappr.com/medicalmicropractices>

com/medicalmicropractices), I noticed a new name

on it that I haven't seen before on this listserve: Dr.

Albenberg of ton, SC. I found this article about his unique

practice: http://www.charlest

<http://www.charlestonbusiness.com/issues/6_14/news/2889->

onbusiness.com/issues/6_14/news/2889-

1.html.

This looks like a very do-able model. For those of your disinclined

to being solely a " for profit " enterprise -- consider giving away

10% of your care, or even go wild and try 50-50 by using the Robin

Hood model.

My apologies for being preachy, but it is so hard to see y'all sweat

that $9.91. And to those of you in struggling markets, my apologies

if I make it sound too easy. I am very thankful that RJ and I have a

great community situation and wish you all did too.

Bob Forester

>

> after hearing this thread, i am again re-affirmed in not accepting

medicare/medicaid.

> additionally, regarding alternatives in financing, and with

perspective of this thread,

> i can only say,

> yoo-hoo! the system is broken, that's b-r-o-k-e-n, broken.

>

> LL

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> Cheap Talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call

rates.

>

[Guest guest]

Re: medicare copay and deductible, and

alternative financing

With great sensitivity and deference to those of you in highly

competitive markets (Annie et. al) I would like otherwise like to

echo Larry's sentiments. It is just so difficult to sit on the

sidelines are hear such great motivated IMP docs gritch without

chiming in now and then.

But to the rest of you in less cut-throat markets, I would suggest

that you seriously reflect on how much effort (and overhead -- don't

forget that your time is valuable too!) is involved in " niggling the

margin " dealing with insurance companies, Medicare and Medicaid.

Certainly as a percentage of listserv traffic it is huge. Reconsider

how being a non-participant in these programs and charging people

what you like would open up your practice. Gordon's same low

overhead mantra carried a little further allows you to quit wasting

your time with insurance and the government, further cut overhead,

provide great service and have more time for patients . So long as

you have work, it will slash your headaches too. It will open you up

to a BIG group of patients many of you may be missing now -- the

uninsured. Most are very willing to pay a reasonable price for

primary medical care -- they just can't afford the $800/month

premium.

I was really impressed by Seto's reference:

Speaking of the Frappr map

( http://www.frappr. <http://www.frappr.com/medicalmicropractices>

com/medicalmicropractices), I noticed a new name

on it that I haven't seen before on this listserve: Dr.

Albenberg of ton, SC. I found this article about his unique

practice: http://www.charlest

<http://www.charlestonbusiness.com/issues/6_14/news/2889->

onbusiness.com/issues/6_14/news/2889-

1.html.

This looks like a very do-able model. For those of your disinclined

to being solely a " for profit " enterprise -- consider giving away

10% of your care, or even go wild and try 50-50 by using the Robin

Hood model.

My apologies for being preachy, but it is so hard to see y'all sweat

that $9.91. And to those of you in struggling markets, my apologies

if I make it sound too easy. I am very thankful that RJ and I have a

great community situation and wish you all did too.

Bob Forester

>

> after hearing this thread, i am again re-affirmed in not accepting

medicare/medicaid.

> additionally, regarding alternatives in financing, and with

perspective of this thread,

> i can only say,

> yoo-hoo! the system is broken, that's b-r-o-k-e-n, broken.

>

> LL

>

>

> ---------------------------------

> Cheap Talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call

rates.

>

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RE Medicaid in Maine

I thought you didn't "take" insurance, so why are you seeing Medicaid pts???

Which insurances do you "take??"

Dr Matt Levin east of Pittsburgh

Re: medicare copay and deductible, andalternative financingWith great sensitivity and deference to those of you in highly competitive markets (Annie et. al) I would like otherwise like to echo Larry's sentiments. It is just so difficult to sit on the sidelines are hear such great motivated IMP docs gritch without chiming in now and then.But to the rest of you in less cut-throat markets, I would suggest that you seriously reflect on how much effort (and overhead -- don't forget that your time is valuable too!) is involved in "niggling the margin" dealing with insurance companies, Medicare and Medicaid. Certainly as a percentage of listserv traffic it is huge. Reconsider how being a non-participant in these programs and charging people what you like would open up your practice. Gordon's same low overhead mantra carried a little further allows you to quit wasting your time with insurance and the government, further cut overhead, provide great service and have more time for patients . So long as you have work, it will slash your headaches too. It will open you up to a BIG group of patients many of you may be missing now -- the uninsured. Most are very willing to pay a reasonable price for primary medical care -- they just can't afford the $800/month premium.I was really impressed by Seto's reference:Speaking of the Frappr map ( http://www.frappr. <http://www.frappr.com/medicalmicropractices>com/medicalmicropractices), I noticed a new name on it that I haven't seen before on this listserve: Dr. Albenberg of ton, SC. I found this article about his unique practice: http://www.charlest<http://www.charlestonbusiness.com/issues/6_14/news/2889->onbusiness.com/issues/6_14/news/2889-1.html.This looks like a very do-able model. For those of your disinclined to being solely a "for profit" enterprise -- consider giving away 10% of your care, or even go wild and try 50-50 by using the Robin Hood model. My apologies for being preachy, but it is so hard to see y'all sweat that $9.91. And to those of you in struggling markets, my apologies if I make it sound too easy. I am very thankful that RJ and I have a great community situation and wish you all did too.Bob Forester>> after hearing this thread, i am again re-affirmed in not accepting medicare/medicaid.> additionally, regarding alternatives in financing, and with perspective of this thread, > i can only say, > yoo-hoo! the system is broken, that's b-r-o-k-e-n, broken.> > LL> > > ---------------------------------> Cheap Talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates.>

[Guest guest]

RE Medicaid in Maine

I thought you didn't "take" insurance, so why are you seeing Medicaid pts???

Which insurances do you "take??"

Dr Matt Levin east of Pittsburgh

Re: medicare copay and deductible, andalternative financingWith great sensitivity and deference to those of you in highly competitive markets (Annie et. al) I would like otherwise like to echo Larry's sentiments. It is just so difficult to sit on the sidelines are hear such great motivated IMP docs gritch without chiming in now and then.But to the rest of you in less cut-throat markets, I would suggest that you seriously reflect on how much effort (and overhead -- don't forget that your time is valuable too!) is involved in "niggling the margin" dealing with insurance companies, Medicare and Medicaid. Certainly as a percentage of listserv traffic it is huge. Reconsider how being a non-participant in these programs and charging people what you like would open up your practice. Gordon's same low overhead mantra carried a little further allows you to quit wasting your time with insurance and the government, further cut overhead, provide great service and have more time for patients . So long as you have work, it will slash your headaches too. It will open you up to a BIG group of patients many of you may be missing now -- the uninsured. Most are very willing to pay a reasonable price for primary medical care -- they just can't afford the $800/month premium.I was really impressed by Seto's reference:Speaking of the Frappr map ( http://www.frappr. <http://www.frappr.com/medicalmicropractices>com/medicalmicropractices), I noticed a new name on it that I haven't seen before on this listserve: Dr. Albenberg of ton, SC. I found this article about his unique practice: http://www.charlest<http://www.charlestonbusiness.com/issues/6_14/news/2889->onbusiness.com/issues/6_14/news/2889-1.html.This looks like a very do-able model. For those of your disinclined to being solely a "for profit" enterprise -- consider giving away 10% of your care, or even go wild and try 50-50 by using the Robin Hood model. My apologies for being preachy, but it is so hard to see y'all sweat that $9.91. And to those of you in struggling markets, my apologies if I make it sound too easy. I am very thankful that RJ and I have a great community situation and wish you all did too.Bob Forester>> after hearing this thread, i am again re-affirmed in not accepting medicare/medicaid.> additionally, regarding alternatives in financing, and with perspective of this thread, > i can only say, > yoo-hoo! the system is broken, that's b-r-o-k-e-n, broken.> > LL> > > ---------------------------------> Cheap Talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates.>

[Guest guest]

RE NOT taking Medicare

Won't work in my market.

Medicaid I agree with -- it's my "charity work" that I will probably do away with when I end up with a fuller apt book.

This is just so regional -- if I didn't take Medicare, I would also not be able to see the HMO Medicare population as well, which is 12% of my pt flow. These also DO pay well care and problem care for the same day service (thank goodness!).

Take the good with the bad -- and check out the pt's benefits so you don't send them extra bills. If I do a well care and pt not covered, and they end up with an extra $130 charge, believe me, they will not be back.

My area, may be different in yours.

By the way, 99214 in my area Medicare $78

99213 Medicare $48 or so.

Fed numbers, so I'm not price comparing.

Dr Matt Levin

Re: medicare copay and deductible, and alternative financing

With great sensitivity and deferrence to those of you in highly competitive markets (Annie et. al) I would like otherwise like to echo Larry's sentiments. It is just so difficult to sit on the sidelines are hear such great motivated IMP docs gritch without chiming in now and then.

But to the rest of you in less cut-throat markets, I would suggest that you seriously reflect on how much effort (and overhead -- don't forget that your time is valuable too!) is involved in "niggling the margin" dealing with insurance companies, Medicare and Medicaid. Certainly as a percentage of listserv traffic it is huge. Reconsider how being a non-participant in these programs and charging people what you like would open up your practice. Gordon's same low overhead mantra carried a little further allows you to quit wasting your time with insurance and the government, further cut overhead, provide great service and have more time for patients . So long as you have work, it will slash your headaches too. It will open you up to a BIG group of patients many of you may be missing now -- the uninsured. Most are very willing to pay a reasonable price for primary medical care -- they just can't afford the $800/month premium.

I was really impressed by Seto's reference:

Speaking of the Frappr map (http://www.frappr.com/medicalmicropractices), I noticed a new name on it that I haven't seen before on this listserve: Dr. Albenberg of ton, SC. I found this article about his unique practice: http://www.charlestonbusiness.com/issues/6_14/news/2889-1.html.

This looks like a very do-able model. For those of your disinclined to being solely a "for profit" enterprise -- consider giving away 10% of your care, or even go wild and try 50-50 by using the Robin Hood model.

My apologies for being preachy, but it is so hard to see y'all sweat that $9.91. And to those of you in struggling markets, my apologies if I make it sound too easy. I am very thankful that RJ and I have a great community situation and wish you all did too.

Bob Forester

lawrence lyon <llyonmd> wrote:

after hearing this thread, i am again re-affirmed in not accepting medicare/medicaid.

additionally, regarding alternatives in financing, and with perspective of this thread,

i can only say,

yoo-hoo! the system is broken, that's b-r-o-k-e-n, broken.

LL

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[Guest guest]

RE NOT taking Medicare

Won't work in my market.

Medicaid I agree with -- it's my "charity work" that I will probably do away with when I end up with a fuller apt book.

This is just so regional -- if I didn't take Medicare, I would also not be able to see the HMO Medicare population as well, which is 12% of my pt flow. These also DO pay well care and problem care for the same day service (thank goodness!).

Take the good with the bad -- and check out the pt's benefits so you don't send them extra bills. If I do a well care and pt not covered, and they end up with an extra $130 charge, believe me, they will not be back.

My area, may be different in yours.

By the way, 99214 in my area Medicare $78

99213 Medicare $48 or so.

Fed numbers, so I'm not price comparing.

Dr Matt Levin

Re: medicare copay and deductible, and alternative financing

With great sensitivity and deferrence to those of you in highly competitive markets (Annie et. al) I would like otherwise like to echo Larry's sentiments. It is just so difficult to sit on the sidelines are hear such great motivated IMP docs gritch without chiming in now and then.

But to the rest of you in less cut-throat markets, I would suggest that you seriously reflect on how much effort (and overhead -- don't forget that your time is valuable too!) is involved in "niggling the margin" dealing with insurance companies, Medicare and Medicaid. Certainly as a percentage of listserv traffic it is huge. Reconsider how being a non-participant in these programs and charging people what you like would open up your practice. Gordon's same low overhead mantra carried a little further allows you to quit wasting your time with insurance and the government, further cut overhead, provide great service and have more time for patients . So long as you have work, it will slash your headaches too. It will open you up to a BIG group of patients many of you may be missing now -- the uninsured. Most are very willing to pay a reasonable price for primary medical care -- they just can't afford the $800/month premium.

I was really impressed by Seto's reference:

Speaking of the Frappr map (http://www.frappr.com/medicalmicropractices), I noticed a new name on it that I haven't seen before on this listserve: Dr. Albenberg of ton, SC. I found this article about his unique practice: http://www.charlestonbusiness.com/issues/6_14/news/2889-1.html.

This looks like a very do-able model. For those of your disinclined to being solely a "for profit" enterprise -- consider giving away 10% of your care, or even go wild and try 50-50 by using the Robin Hood model.

My apologies for being preachy, but it is so hard to see y'all sweat that $9.91. And to those of you in struggling markets, my apologies if I make it sound too easy. I am very thankful that RJ and I have a great community situation and wish you all did too.

Bob Forester

lawrence lyon <llyonmd> wrote:

after hearing this thread, i am again re-affirmed in not accepting medicare/medicaid.

additionally, regarding alternatives in financing, and with perspective of this thread,

i can only say,

yoo-hoo! the system is broken, that's b-r-o-k-e-n, broken.

LL

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[Guest guest]

i have not been " taking " those THINGS called " insurance " in which

the doc signs teh contract to obey all sorts of rules and b epaid

less than she charges.

I have a social obligation to serve people so i see mainecare-

medicaid. I am trying to have it be 10% of my visits and cannot get

it down below 20% so far maine is extremely easy comparitively to

get on medicaid .I guess we think it is a good idea socialeaty wise

to give people care , so 20% ormore of the popluation gets

mainecare .As we all know maoinecare folks take up proportionally

more visits becasue they are sicker less educated less

sophisteaced etcetc

i take medicare also- unlimited . maine is OLD.Young people leave

or sometimes they live inthe

'other " maine- near Portland whcih a has jobs and electricity and

flush toilets and is secretly p art of massachusetts.. I would

have nothing to do all day long without medicare medicare pays 75%

of my e and m fees.

I was taking a blue cross thing indemnity it began with the

letters XVA and XVB This month I began with Ble cross PPO and HMO.

I ahve been breaking even since week two

Feeding myself since month 5 or 6

Bad summer- few visits

then I went away a week in Septmeber and also had to buy flushots--

big outlays though like Brady i LOVE ocotber I billmore for

all those flu shots and though this year I had to buy them i will

make a good profit.

I think that although lately I have been a whining baby and

worried about money like alot well, I am ok and by may or june-

end of year 2 , will be feeding myself in the style to which i want

to be accustomed.

I want to make 80,0000 a year.

Factoids:

the governor in Miane makes 70,0000.

we are the 30 th richest- eg poor state

we are fat

we is old

I live in a place where i only see one house and that is in the

iwnter.

I have quiet where I live.Absolute quiet Makes people whisper

sometimes when they comehere.

Trade offs for everything.

[Guest guest]

i have not been " taking " those THINGS called " insurance " in which

the doc signs teh contract to obey all sorts of rules and b epaid

less than she charges.

I have a social obligation to serve people so i see mainecare-

medicaid. I am trying to have it be 10% of my visits and cannot get

it down below 20% so far maine is extremely easy comparitively to

get on medicaid .I guess we think it is a good idea socialeaty wise

to give people care , so 20% ormore of the popluation gets

mainecare .As we all know maoinecare folks take up proportionally

more visits becasue they are sicker less educated less

sophisteaced etcetc

i take medicare also- unlimited . maine is OLD.Young people leave

or sometimes they live inthe

'other " maine- near Portland whcih a has jobs and electricity and

flush toilets and is secretly p art of massachusetts.. I would

have nothing to do all day long without medicare medicare pays 75%

of my e and m fees.

I was taking a blue cross thing indemnity it began with the

letters XVA and XVB This month I began with Ble cross PPO and HMO.

I ahve been breaking even since week two

Feeding myself since month 5 or 6

Bad summer- few visits

then I went away a week in Septmeber and also had to buy flushots--

big outlays though like Brady i LOVE ocotber I billmore for

all those flu shots and though this year I had to buy them i will

make a good profit.

I think that although lately I have been a whining baby and

worried about money like alot well, I am ok and by may or june-

end of year 2 , will be feeding myself in the style to which i want

to be accustomed.

I want to make 80,0000 a year.

Factoids:

the governor in Miane makes 70,0000.

we are the 30 th richest- eg poor state

we are fat

we is old

I live in a place where i only see one house and that is in the

iwnter.

I have quiet where I live.Absolute quiet Makes people whisper

sometimes when they comehere.

Trade offs for everything.

[Guest guest]

I would starve without the insurance reimbursement. You might

rethink your model in your area for payment and decide to work with

several insurance carriers. I also do a fair amount of work comp.

Brent

> >

> > after hearing this thread, i am again re-affirmed in not

accepting

> medicare/medicaid.

> > additionally, regarding alternatives in financing, and with

> perspective of this thread,

> > i can only say,

> > yoo-hoo! the system is broken, that's b-r-o-k-e-n, broken.

> >

> > LL

> >

> >

> > ---------------------------------

> > Cheap Talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call

> rates.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I would starve without the insurance reimbursement. You might

rethink your model in your area for payment and decide to work with

several insurance carriers. I also do a fair amount of work comp.

Brent

> >

> > after hearing this thread, i am again re-affirmed in not

accepting

> medicare/medicaid.

> > additionally, regarding alternatives in financing, and with

> perspective of this thread,

> > i can only say,

> > yoo-hoo! the system is broken, that's b-r-o-k-e-n, broken.

> >

> > LL

> >

> >

> > ---------------------------------

> > Cheap Talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call

> rates.

> >

>