Guest guest Posted November 6, 2006 Report Share Posted November 6, 2006 AAFP has an inexpensive publication on starting from the ground up. It is a good starting point. Ramona Seidel, MD Literature on practice management? Hi, I am a third year FP resident in Washington state planning to start my own solo practice in about 8 months. Nowadays, we routinely learn about basic coding during residency (E & M makes up the major portion of family medicine coding). However, I have little knowledge about both what happens before I see the patient and after I turn in my superbill, i.e. how to negotiate a contract with insurers, bill insurers, bill for material used, HCPCS codes, EOBs, ABNs, using business intelligence to consolidate business finances etc. I am sure that many of you had to face similar issues after leaving employed practice and entering into the " kingdom of the self " . I guess that our favorite practice design a la Gordon gives us some oportunity to learn practice management " on-the-fly " . However, can anyone give me recommendations for literature and books on practice management so I can prepare in advance? Thanks, Marius Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2006 Report Share Posted November 6, 2006 AAFP has an inexpensive publication on starting from the ground up. It is a good starting point. Ramona Seidel, MD Literature on practice management? Hi, I am a third year FP resident in Washington state planning to start my own solo practice in about 8 months. Nowadays, we routinely learn about basic coding during residency (E & M makes up the major portion of family medicine coding). However, I have little knowledge about both what happens before I see the patient and after I turn in my superbill, i.e. how to negotiate a contract with insurers, bill insurers, bill for material used, HCPCS codes, EOBs, ABNs, using business intelligence to consolidate business finances etc. I am sure that many of you had to face similar issues after leaving employed practice and entering into the " kingdom of the self " . I guess that our favorite practice design a la Gordon gives us some oportunity to learn practice management " on-the-fly " . However, can anyone give me recommendations for literature and books on practice management so I can prepare in advance? Thanks, Marius Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2006 Report Share Posted November 6, 2006 Agreed. It was helpful. Bob ForesterRGMS wrote: AAFP has an inexpensive publication on starting from the ground up. It is agood starting point.Ramona Seidel, MD-----Original Message-----From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of mllaumansSent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 10:57 PMTo: Subject: Literature on practice management?Hi,I am a third year FP resident in Washington state planning to start myown solo practice in about 8 months. Nowadays, we routinely learnabout basic coding during residency (E & M makes up the major portion offamily medicine coding). However, I have little knowledge about bothwhat happens before I see the patient and after I turn in mysuperbill, i.e. how to negotiate a contract with insurers, billinsurers, bill for material used, HCPCS codes, EOBs, ABNs, usingbusiness intelligence to consolidate business finances etc.I am sure that many of you had to face similar issues after leavingemployed practice and entering into the "kingdom of the self". I guessthat our favorite practice design a la Gordon gives us some oportunityto learn practice management "on-the-fly". However, can anyone give merecommendations for literature and books on practice management so Ican prepare in advance?Thanks,Marius Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2006 Report Share Posted November 6, 2006 Agreed. It was helpful. Bob ForesterRGMS wrote: AAFP has an inexpensive publication on starting from the ground up. It is agood starting point.Ramona Seidel, MD-----Original Message-----From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of mllaumansSent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 10:57 PMTo: Subject: Literature on practice management?Hi,I am a third year FP resident in Washington state planning to start myown solo practice in about 8 months. Nowadays, we routinely learnabout basic coding during residency (E & M makes up the major portion offamily medicine coding). However, I have little knowledge about bothwhat happens before I see the patient and after I turn in mysuperbill, i.e. how to negotiate a contract with insurers, billinsurers, bill for material used, HCPCS codes, EOBs, ABNs, usingbusiness intelligence to consolidate business finances etc.I am sure that many of you had to face similar issues after leavingemployed practice and entering into the "kingdom of the self". I guessthat our favorite practice design a la Gordon gives us some oportunityto learn practice management "on-the-fly". However, can anyone give merecommendations for literature and books on practice management so Ican prepare in advance?Thanks,Marius Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2006 Report Share Posted November 6, 2006 Agreed. It was helpful. Bob ForesterRGMS wrote: AAFP has an inexpensive publication on starting from the ground up. It is agood starting point.Ramona Seidel, MD-----Original Message-----From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of mllaumansSent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 10:57 PMTo: Subject: Literature on practice management?Hi,I am a third year FP resident in Washington state planning to start myown solo practice in about 8 months. Nowadays, we routinely learnabout basic coding during residency (E & M makes up the major portion offamily medicine coding). However, I have little knowledge about bothwhat happens before I see the patient and after I turn in mysuperbill, i.e. how to negotiate a contract with insurers, billinsurers, bill for material used, HCPCS codes, EOBs, ABNs, usingbusiness intelligence to consolidate business finances etc.I am sure that many of you had to face similar issues after leavingemployed practice and entering into the "kingdom of the self". I guessthat our favorite practice design a la Gordon gives us some oportunityto learn practice management "on-the-fly". However, can anyone give merecommendations for literature and books on practice management so Ican prepare in advance?Thanks,Marius Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2006 Report Share Posted November 6, 2006 More agreement…the AAFP publication was very helpful. I also used “Starting A Medical Practice” published by the AMA. The link to it is https://catalog.ama-assn.org/Catalog/product/product_detail.jsp?productId=prod170060 Marty Schulman Encinitas, CA From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Forester Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 11:06 PM To: Subject: RE: Literature on practice management? Agreed. It was helpful. Bob Forester RGMS <rgmscomcast (DOT) net> wrote: AAFP has an inexpensive publication on starting from the ground up. It is a good starting point. Ramona Seidel, MD Literature on practice management? Hi, I am a third year FP resident in Washington state planning to start my own solo practice in about 8 months. Nowadays, we routinely learn about basic coding during residency (E & M makes up the major portion of family medicine coding). However, I have little knowledge about both what happens before I see the patient and after I turn in my superbill, i.e. how to negotiate a contract with insurers, bill insurers, bill for material used, HCPCS codes, EOBs, ABNs, using business intelligence to consolidate business finances etc. I am sure that many of you had to face similar issues after leaving employed practice and entering into the " kingdom of the self " . I guess that our favorite practice design a la Gordon gives us some oportunity to learn practice management " on-the-fly " . However, can anyone give me recommendations for literature and books on practice management so I can prepare in advance? Thanks, Marius Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2006 Report Share Posted November 6, 2006 More agreement…the AAFP publication was very helpful. I also used “Starting A Medical Practice” published by the AMA. The link to it is https://catalog.ama-assn.org/Catalog/product/product_detail.jsp?productId=prod170060 Marty Schulman Encinitas, CA From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Forester Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 11:06 PM To: Subject: RE: Literature on practice management? Agreed. It was helpful. Bob Forester RGMS <rgmscomcast (DOT) net> wrote: AAFP has an inexpensive publication on starting from the ground up. It is a good starting point. Ramona Seidel, MD Literature on practice management? Hi, I am a third year FP resident in Washington state planning to start my own solo practice in about 8 months. Nowadays, we routinely learn about basic coding during residency (E & M makes up the major portion of family medicine coding). However, I have little knowledge about both what happens before I see the patient and after I turn in my superbill, i.e. how to negotiate a contract with insurers, bill insurers, bill for material used, HCPCS codes, EOBs, ABNs, using business intelligence to consolidate business finances etc. I am sure that many of you had to face similar issues after leaving employed practice and entering into the " kingdom of the self " . I guess that our favorite practice design a la Gordon gives us some oportunity to learn practice management " on-the-fly " . However, can anyone give me recommendations for literature and books on practice management so I can prepare in advance? Thanks, Marius Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2006 Report Share Posted November 6, 2006 More agreement…the AAFP publication was very helpful. I also used “Starting A Medical Practice” published by the AMA. The link to it is https://catalog.ama-assn.org/Catalog/product/product_detail.jsp?productId=prod170060 Marty Schulman Encinitas, CA From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Forester Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 11:06 PM To: Subject: RE: Literature on practice management? Agreed. It was helpful. Bob Forester RGMS <rgmscomcast (DOT) net> wrote: AAFP has an inexpensive publication on starting from the ground up. It is a good starting point. Ramona Seidel, MD Literature on practice management? Hi, I am a third year FP resident in Washington state planning to start my own solo practice in about 8 months. Nowadays, we routinely learn about basic coding during residency (E & M makes up the major portion of family medicine coding). However, I have little knowledge about both what happens before I see the patient and after I turn in my superbill, i.e. how to negotiate a contract with insurers, bill insurers, bill for material used, HCPCS codes, EOBs, ABNs, using business intelligence to consolidate business finances etc. I am sure that many of you had to face similar issues after leaving employed practice and entering into the " kingdom of the self " . I guess that our favorite practice design a la Gordon gives us some oportunity to learn practice management " on-the-fly " . However, can anyone give me recommendations for literature and books on practice management so I can prepare in advance? Thanks, Marius Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 6, 2006 Report Share Posted November 6, 2006 Thanks for your replies, I should probably have mentioned that I started with the AAFP publication but it only gives a glimpse of an insight. I still have no idea how to really start on practice management. The book itself was exactly what I needed to get a head start, though. Any thoughts on where to go from here in terms of literature on practice management? Thanks, Marius Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2006 Report Share Posted November 7, 2006 Dear Marius, I feel a little awkward giving this advice as I haven't done billing and collecting of insurance as an IMP but rather only in a traditional practice; and then only as an overseer. But I think the advice may be helpful. I would recommend as your next step to find a friendly office manager of a well-run small office and ask them your questions. You might ask her/him to do a little moonlighting on an hourly basis once every couple of weeeks until you get the hang of it. Perhaps there is a private attending teaching at your residency who might have a recommendation? My former office manager was wonderful and connected with the Medical Group Management Association (MGMA). She was a great help to me with these kinds of questions as I began immping, and would contact her MGMA colleagues if she had questions. Also, reading back issues of Family Practice Management might be helpful. I have found many pearls there. There may even be specific references in some of the FPM articles that addres your more specific questions. Bob Forester Marius Laumans wrote: Thanks for your replies, I should probably have mentioned that I started with the AAFP publication but it only gives a glimpse of an insight. I still have no idea how to really start on practice management. The book itself was exactly what I needed to get a head start, though. Any thoughts on where to go from here in terms of literature on practice management? Thanks, Marius Sponsored Link Free Uniden 5.8GHz Phone System with Packet8 Internet Phone Service Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2006 Report Share Posted November 7, 2006 Dear Marius, I feel a little awkward giving this advice as I haven't done billing and collecting of insurance as an IMP but rather only in a traditional practice; and then only as an overseer. But I think the advice may be helpful. I would recommend as your next step to find a friendly office manager of a well-run small office and ask them your questions. You might ask her/him to do a little moonlighting on an hourly basis once every couple of weeeks until you get the hang of it. Perhaps there is a private attending teaching at your residency who might have a recommendation? My former office manager was wonderful and connected with the Medical Group Management Association (MGMA). She was a great help to me with these kinds of questions as I began immping, and would contact her MGMA colleagues if she had questions. Also, reading back issues of Family Practice Management might be helpful. I have found many pearls there. There may even be specific references in some of the FPM articles that addres your more specific questions. Bob Forester Marius Laumans wrote: Thanks for your replies, I should probably have mentioned that I started with the AAFP publication but it only gives a glimpse of an insight. I still have no idea how to really start on practice management. The book itself was exactly what I needed to get a head start, though. Any thoughts on where to go from here in terms of literature on practice management? Thanks, Marius Sponsored Link Free Uniden 5.8GHz Phone System with Packet8 Internet Phone Service Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 I'd do a one-month elective with the practice manager of your residency clinic, with field trips to other doctor's offices during the month. Getting information from the MGMA would also be helpful, but I'd get it before the elective and use it as adjuvant reading. Lynette I Iles MD 210 South Iowa Ste 3 Washington IA 52353 Flexible Family Care 'Modern medicine the old-fashioned way' This e-mail and attachments may contain information which is confidential and is only for the named addressee. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete it from your computer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 I'd do a one-month elective with the practice manager of your residency clinic, with field trips to other doctor's offices during the month. Getting information from the MGMA would also be helpful, but I'd get it before the elective and use it as adjuvant reading. Lynette I Iles MD 210 South Iowa Ste 3 Washington IA 52353 Flexible Family Care 'Modern medicine the old-fashioned way' This e-mail and attachments may contain information which is confidential and is only for the named addressee. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete it from your computer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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