Re: see/saw - being with non mb - skin care

November 14, 2006

Klara, What a great post! You shared so much info. You are soooo lucky to have so many family members willing to cook for you! of course you will share their food at times. I'd gladly eat a vegetarian but non-macro meal if my husband took the time to prepare one! I don't think it's fair to expect our friends and family to be able to cook macro meals...i'm still trying to figure out what that is myself! and i'm with you on thanksgiving (you don't actually celebrate that in israel, do you?) i'd rather gather with my friends and family and be thankful for the wonderful people in my life than use it as an opportunity to chastise or "educate" them. sarah Klara LeVine wrote: Vickie, I also love to cook and yet I still much prefer simple mb fare - but rest of family doesn't come anywhere near it - which is fine most of the time - but I have problems with weekends (I must have posted about this already, no??) when my daughter comes home and she also loves to cook - and it's amazing how different vegerarian food can be - she prefers pies (with vegetables) and other floured products, complicated vegetable combinations baked with stronger spices/herbs than I usually use, (also vinegars for salads which are stronger than the brown rice or ume vinegar, like balsamic) thickened either with tofu, flour or eggs (sorry to the

vegans), she has no problems using peppers, tomatoes. She uses alot of tofu, both in main dishes and desserts, while I"m trying to use it less and less often. She doesn't care for beans (but we do have a tempeh dish she enjoys). Desserts are also usually quite rich, she uses fructose which I never do, or even honey (apologies again) and again makes quite complicated dishes, or often floured, baked desserts. And uses much more yin fruits, such as dates, bananas, pineapples and other tropical fruits. She's willing to use canned foods and frozen and regular processed foods that I would rather not. And she uses alot of soy milk that I would rather not. And she will bake the bread, while with whole wheat, also has yeast, she doesn't care for souordough and I much prefer it. That's part of the wide. And yes, I do eat most of the food, tho I try less and less, but never have time to make also what she wants and also just some simple foods (we make ALOT of food, also

not so good, as yes, I will eat more than I should) - and the truth is, next to all the fancy foods, the simple doesn't always attract as much. The other part is my husband who also loves to cook and won't eat my food - and he always welcomes me to join rest of the family with the food he prepares. There are times that by evening I'm weary of cooking, or tired of my own food and make a decision to join them, either because of the above reasons, or I figure he made the effort to make it more to my liking, and it's a nice way to say thank you to him. But more and more I realize it's not for my good to do that. It isn't that I feel sick (thank G-d) because of it, or aware of other ill effects, I just realize it's not the best choice of foods. Yesterday he'd put something hot into the food and probably salted it much more than I ever would (plus he doesn't use my ingredients - sea salt, sesame oil, etc) and I was so so so so thirsty after and even tho I wanted the

togetherness, it just didn't seem worth it. Often I do cook my own food and sit down with rest of family but even that has it's drawbacks as they eat quite late (lately it's been around 8:30 - 9:00). So Vickie and anyone else in a relationship with non-mb eaters, how do you manage?? The struggle to eat better is much more difficult with all the other foods around - and I guess I see my progess with how much less I give in to other kinds of foods - which I do less and less, but still far from being pure mb all the time. I wavered back and forth whether to respond to the post about the Thanksgiving Blues - although I grant that food is a very important part of my life, even more so is working on relationships - and a HUGE part of that is accepting others exactly where they are. But it's taking me a very very long time to get there, and I guess the biggest push is the other way, trying to convince others, just backfires - people will dig

more into how crazy my way is, and it has no good influence. So for those who have difficulties with Thanksgiving and any other food get-togethers with non-mb people my suggestion would be to solve food issues by either bringing a couple fantastic dishes to share (I've done that with Thanksgiving potlucks and it's the best way to turn people on to this way of eating - they were very impressed and remembered what I brought a long time after I did), ask the host/hostess if you are comfortable enough to make something simple that you can eat (I've also done that and didn't feel as successful with it - amazing how brown rice can turn out pretty awful in the hands of meat eaters - but that was just my experience, doesn't mean it's always like that) and most important, concentrate on the good in the people and enjoy them - de-emphasize foods and all the other ideals you don't share, and emphasize what you do share - the most important aspect that I love with mb is to appreciate

and it's impossible to appreciate if one is putting their energies into seeing what's wrong. I don't write from being there yet, I am always working on it!!!!! The last question about skin care I also feel confused about. I thought the beauty of skin comes from inside and that's why mb is one more reason to let go of other products. I thought the goal of being balanced shows up in the way the skin looks. I thought food was our medicine and no need for skin products. I thought our method was the body rub which will rid the skin of dead cells and leave a healthy glow. What am I missing here??? Klaraleslieanneashburn <leslieanneashburn> wrote: how do you both feel like you see-saw?? just curious if you feel like sharing. thanks, leslie> >> > My

daughter has that book - what's your favorite recipe?? > > My problem with cookbooks that aren't mb, or some that say they > are mb, are so so so many wide recipes, and once I go wide, I go very > wide - so I have to be more careful. I still see-saw too much, and > need to go back more to the middle. > > Klara> >> Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta.

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November 14, 2006

Thanks, . Funny, I wrote about appreciation and yet I guess I don't appreciate enough also. I'm trying to find that balance of eating what I feel is good for me and compromising and eating other stuff. Right now I'd like to go more in the direction of just eating what I feel is better for me - I have to made an admission, I didn't exactly write what my husband cooks, didn't want to shock all of you. I suppose if one eats wide only once in a while (guess that depends individually) it could be better appreciated - but I find I'm just eating wide too much - and need at this point in time to go back the other way. But yes, you're right, it is nice that others cook - did I mention who's the lucky one who gets to clean up after these great cooks?? ah, and as far as figuring out what's macro, it gets easier and easier, at least the main part a WHOLE grain (not noodles, tofu dish, pies, etc), varied vegetables (and not all, or

most yin ones) and not added spices and herbs (and oils and vinegars and ready products with who knows what in them) that take away from the clean taste and just make one drink all night to get back to balance. That's why simple works for me. Klarasarah wrote: Klara, What a great post! You shared so much info. You are soooo lucky to have so many family members willing to cook for you! of course you will share their food at times. I'd gladly eat a

vegetarian but non-macro meal if my husband took the time to prepare one! I don't think it's fair to expect our friends and family to be able to cook macro meals...i'm still trying to figure out what that is myself! and i'm with you on thanksgiving (you don't actually celebrate that in israel, do you?) i'd rather gather with my friends and family and be thankful for the wonderful people in my life than use it as an opportunity to chastise or "educate" them. sarah Klara LeVine <klara_levine> wrote: Vickie, I also love to cook and yet I still much prefer simple mb fare - but rest of family doesn't come anywhere near it - which is fine most of the time - but I have problems with weekends (I must have posted about this

already, no??) when my daughter comes home and she also loves to cook - and it's amazing how different vegerarian food can be - she prefers pies (with vegetables) and other floured products, complicated vegetable combinations baked with stronger spices/herbs than I usually use, (also vinegars for salads which are stronger than the brown rice or ume vinegar, like balsamic) thickened either with tofu, flour or eggs (sorry to the vegans), she has no problems using peppers, tomatoes. She uses alot of tofu, both in main dishes and desserts, while I"m trying to use it less and less often. She doesn't care for beans (but we do have a tempeh dish she enjoys). Desserts are also usually quite rich, she uses fructose which I never do, or even honey (apologies again) and again makes quite complicated dishes, or often floured, baked desserts. And uses much more yin fruits, such as dates, bananas, pineapples and other tropical fruits. She's willing to use canned foods and

frozen and regular processed foods that I would rather not. And she uses alot of soy milk that I would rather not. And she will bake the bread, while with whole wheat, also has yeast, she doesn't care for souordough and I much prefer it. That's part of the wide. And yes, I do eat most of the food, tho I try less and less, but never have time to make also what she wants and also just some simple foods (we make ALOT of food, also not so good, as yes, I will eat more than I should) - and the truth is, next to all the fancy foods, the simple doesn't always attract as much. The other part is my husband who also loves to cook and won't eat my food - and he always welcomes me to join rest of the family with the food he prepares. There are times that by evening I'm weary of cooking, or tired of my own food and make a decision to join them, either because of the above reasons, or I figure he made the effort to make it more to my liking, and it's a nice way to say

thank you to him. But more and more I realize it's not for my good to do that. It isn't that I feel sick (thank G-d) because of it, or aware of other ill effects, I just realize it's not the best choice of foods. Yesterday he'd put something hot into the food and probably salted it much more than I ever would (plus he doesn't use my ingredients - sea salt, sesame oil, etc) and I was so so so so thirsty after and even tho I wanted the togetherness, it just didn't seem worth it. Often I do cook my own food and sit down with rest of family but even that has it's drawbacks as they eat quite late (lately it's been around 8:30 - 9:00). So Vickie and anyone else in a relationship with non-mb eaters, how do you manage?? The struggle to eat better is much more difficult with all the other foods around - and I guess I see my progess with how much less I give in to other kinds of foods - which I do less and less, but still far from being pure mb all the

time. I wavered back and forth whether to respond to the post about the Thanksgiving Blues - although I grant that food is a very important part of my life, even more so is working on relationships - and a HUGE part of that is accepting others exactly where they are. But it's taking me a very very long time to get there, and I guess the biggest push is the other way, trying to convince others, just backfires - people will dig more into how crazy my way is, and it has no good influence. So for those who have difficulties with Thanksgiving and any other food get-togethers with non-mb people my suggestion would be to solve food issues by either bringing a couple fantastic dishes to share (I've done that with Thanksgiving potlucks and it's the best way to turn people on to this way of eating - they were very impressed and remembered what I brought a long time after I did), ask the host/hostess if you are comfortable enough to make something simple that you can eat

(I've also done that and didn't feel as successful with it - amazing how brown rice can turn out pretty awful in the hands of meat eaters - but that was just my experience, doesn't mean it's always like that) and most important, concentrate on the good in the people and enjoy them - de-emphasize foods and all the other ideals you don't share, and emphasize what you do share - the most important aspect that I love with mb is to appreciate and it's impossible to appreciate if one is putting their energies into seeing what's wrong. I don't write from being there yet, I am always working on it!!!!! The last question about skin care I also feel confused about. I thought the beauty of skin comes from inside and that's why mb is one more reason to let go of other products. I thought the goal of being balanced shows up in the way the skin looks. I thought food was our medicine and no need for skin products. I thought our method was the body rub which will rid the skin

of dead cells and leave a healthy glow. What am I missing here??? Klaraleslieanneashburn <leslieanneashburn> wrote: how do you both feel like you see-saw?? just curious if you feel like sharing. thanks, leslie> >> > My daughter has that book - what's your favorite recipe?? > > My problem with cookbooks that aren't mb, or some that say they > are mb, are so so so many wide recipes, and once I go wide, I go very > wide - so I have to be more careful. I still see-saw too much, and > need to go back more to the middle. > > Klara> >> Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta.

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November 14, 2006