Re: Re: exercise questions

[Guest guest]

Dwight,

Most of the people in those muscle magazines have other serious health issues behind that low body fat. To get like most of those people you have to take steroids and a lot of them. The human body just won't get that huge without help. This is especially true with women. If you actually look through most muscles magazines you will find page after page of steroid advertizements. This also applies to the pro wrestlers, probably American football players and even many baseball players as well.

Steroids cause all kinds of harm to the body. I know that they can wreck the liver and they probably do strain the heart a great deal as well. It seems logical that if any muscle can be grown by steroids that the heart would grow as well. That would probably be an unhealthy thing since a larger heart is rarely a good thing.

Again, if you want to see the natural limits strength training and genetics, look at the old time strong men or Atlas. Look back to about 1900 or so, in the time before steriods. You'll see men lifting huge weights and they are solid but not mutants like you see today.

Indeed those mutants are responsible for a great deal of body image issues amongst boys. What is the average teen to thing when they see those puffed up characters on the wrestling shows or the huge football players? Even the toys aren't much help. The little G.I. Joe, Star Wars and other figures were normal sizd guys when I was a kid. Obviously they were in good shape, but it was an attainable shape. These days they are all puffed up like the wrestlers. I remember being disgusted a few years ago when they re-released the original run of Star Wars figures. I found a Darth Vader and was excited. But I looked again and he his chest bulged like he had a life jecket on under there. Same with most of the others. They have since done another run that was truer to the original though.

The only good men's magazine I think is Men's Health. Their policy is strictly no steroids: not in ads, not in exercise programs and not in their models. The models they do pick are those who are serious about their workouts and have good genetics, of course. But it is something you could gt close to if you devoted the time and effort. However, it is geared to the NTs so there is some sex stuff in there, but since the female models are usually quite fine, its tolerable. They also have a Women's Health magazine that came out about a year ago.

[Guest guest]

Raeth,

Its called something like body dismorphism. It means they can't see themselves as they are. It is the same thing as anerexia. The anerexic thinks they are fat even though they are so thin it could kill them, while the body builder thinks he is skinny even though he has 100 pounds too much muscle.

I had a friend like this. He used to complain about being small and he worked out all the time. He was at least smart enough not to take steroids, but he got about as big as he could naturally but still thought he was small. Funny thing was he was about 8 inches taller than me and had a larger bone build. I think he started to get over it when one day I got sick of his griping and I stood beside him (this was back when I was only about 110 pounds, he was probably about 180) and said, "You're also going on about small. Look at me. I hardly come up to your chin and can easily hide behind you. You're a big guy, just deal with it." He never complained about being small around me again.

[Guest guest]

Raeth,

Its called something like body dismorphism. It means they can't see themselves as they are. It is the same thing as anerexia. The anerexic thinks they are fat even though they are so thin it could kill them, while the body builder thinks he is skinny even though he has 100 pounds too much muscle.

I had a friend like this. He used to complain about being small and he worked out all the time. He was at least smart enough not to take steroids, but he got about as big as he could naturally but still thought he was small. Funny thing was he was about 8 inches taller than me and had a larger bone build. I think he started to get over it when one day I got sick of his griping and I stood beside him (this was back when I was only about 110 pounds, he was probably about 180) and said, "You're also going on about small. Look at me. I hardly come up to your chin and can easily hide behind you. You're a big guy, just deal with it." He never complained about being small around me again.

[Guest guest]

Raeth,

Its called something like body dismorphism. It means they can't see themselves as they are. It is the same thing as anerexia. The anerexic thinks they are fat even though they are so thin it could kill them, while the body builder thinks he is skinny even though he has 100 pounds too much muscle.

I had a friend like this. He used to complain about being small and he worked out all the time. He was at least smart enough not to take steroids, but he got about as big as he could naturally but still thought he was small. Funny thing was he was about 8 inches taller than me and had a larger bone build. I think he started to get over it when one day I got sick of his griping and I stood beside him (this was back when I was only about 110 pounds, he was probably about 180) and said, "You're also going on about small. Look at me. I hardly come up to your chin and can easily hide behind you. You're a big guy, just deal with it." He never complained about being small around me again.

[Guest guest]

Punjabi Jowo wrote:

>Raeth,

>

>It causes me to wonder

>about these people in the

>muscle magazines. They claim

>to do their level best to

>eliminate ALL body fat so

>that their muscles will show

>better under their skin.

>With each layer of fat, it

>makes it more difficult to

>see the muscles underneath

>their skin. One muscle man

>told how that he hardly ate

>any food at all. But, he would

>drink those protein drinks and

>take vitamins and minerals. His

>normal food intake for 1 day

>would be nothing for breakfast,

>1 apple for lunch and a piece

>of watermellon for dinner. I

>was surprised to hear how little

>these folk eat to keep their

>body fat as low as possible.

>

>I also know someone who has a

>daughter that is featured in

>some of the muscle magazines.

>She was only at the age of

>30 when she had a heart attack.

>And, before 2 years had passed,

>she had 3 more heart attacks. I

>also believe(as you do)that NO

>BODY FAT or VERY, VERY LITTLE

>BODY FAT is certainly NOT HEALTHY.

>

>Dwight

>

>

Dwight,

It certainly doesn't take a genius to know that that man's diet wasn't

healthy. Muscle builders can get obsessed can't they...

Raeth

[Guest guest]

Punjabi Jowo wrote:

>Raeth,

>

>It causes me to wonder

>about these people in the

>muscle magazines. They claim

>to do their level best to

>eliminate ALL body fat so

>that their muscles will show

>better under their skin.

>With each layer of fat, it

>makes it more difficult to

>see the muscles underneath

>their skin. One muscle man

>told how that he hardly ate

>any food at all. But, he would

>drink those protein drinks and

>take vitamins and minerals. His

>normal food intake for 1 day

>would be nothing for breakfast,

>1 apple for lunch and a piece

>of watermellon for dinner. I

>was surprised to hear how little

>these folk eat to keep their

>body fat as low as possible.

>

>I also know someone who has a

>daughter that is featured in

>some of the muscle magazines.

>She was only at the age of

>30 when she had a heart attack.

>And, before 2 years had passed,

>she had 3 more heart attacks. I

>also believe(as you do)that NO

>BODY FAT or VERY, VERY LITTLE

>BODY FAT is certainly NOT HEALTHY.

>

>Dwight

>

>

Dwight,

It certainly doesn't take a genius to know that that man's diet wasn't

healthy. Muscle builders can get obsessed can't they...

Raeth