Re: Okay group-- Gimme some help here!!!

[Guest guest]

I don't know about the cardio thing...sorry.

Here is a list of some of the favorite foods of mine:

Gardenburgers (the ones that you just have to microwave for a couple of

minutes are really quick and really not that bad!)

turkey burgers

Pasta with shrimp...squirt some lemon juice on there - add some pepper,

garlic, whatever...really good! If you fix enough you can eat off of

it for a couple of days

tuna salad sandwiches (tuna, 1 tsp fat free miracle whip, 1 tsp relish)

Egg Beaters scrambled eggs with toast

oatmeal + protein powder

chicken (I buy frozen Tyson Time Trimmers - already cut up and you

just microwave for two minutes) and pasta or rice.

I generally cook a big thing of pasta or brown rice every week so I can

eat from that whenever I want. I also like to squeeze lemon juice on

almost all of my pasta/rice dishes...gives it a little something extra.

I am not a cook by any means and these are all super-easy, super-fast

)

good luck

--- cgwall01 wrote:

> Hey everyone!

>

> Here I am checking in with some updates and some more trivial

> questions for

> anyone to please answer. I am at C1W3D5, and today my substitute

> personal

> trainer who was filling in for my regular guy was discussing the

> concepts

> behind the 20 minute Aerobic Solution. He has his BS in Exercise

> Physio, and

> nonetheless what little expertise that provides he told me that one

> really has

> to exercise 35-45 minutes to EFFECTIVELY produce any metabolic fat

> burning

> results, he says there is substantial/emperical evidence to support

> this, does

> anyone have the ability to help me disagree with that when I meet

> with him

> next? Just curious...

>

> Also, could you guys send me some of your meal ideas BESIDES the

> MRP's and

> Bars, cottage cheese with fruits and myoplex just isn't giving me

> enough

> variety especially with my active lifestyle where I don't have the

> time to

> bake and cook just to eat, ya know?

>

> Anywho, I'm felling AWESOME, and journaling everything I've invested

> so much

> already spiritually, financially, etc. and BOY is it worth it!

> Anywho, hope

> to ehear back from you guys, I appreciate your input.

>

>

> Chris

> 21 Years Old

> Louisville, Kentucky

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

I hate to break it to you, but your personal trainer is pretty much right!

Exercising 35-45 minutes in the 'fat-burning' zone will reduce the amount of

fat you are wearing BUT it will NOT grow muscle. The principle behind BFL is

increased muscle mass to increase metabolic rate.

If losing fat is key to your program, I'd suggest a modified BFL aerobic

portion, but this is a tweak and NOT straight BFL. Some people frown on

doing that for your first challenge. Part of the first challenge is to get

to intuitively get in touch with how your body works. If you wish to know

more, visit www.hussman.com/eas.

Les

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>Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 15:04:59 -0400

>

>Hey everyone!

>

>Here I am checking in with some updates and some more trivial questions for

>anyone to please answer. I am at C1W3D5, and today my substitute personal

>trainer who was filling in for my regular guy was discussing the concepts

>behind the 20 minute Aerobic Solution. He has his BS in Exercise Physio,

>and

>nonetheless what little expertise that provides he told me that one really

>has

>to exercise 35-45 minutes to EFFECTIVELY produce any metabolic fat burning

>results, he says there is substantial/emperical evidence to support this,

>does

>anyone have the ability to help me disagree with that when I meet with him

>next? Just curious...

>

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[Guest guest]

I hate to break it to you, but your personal trainer is pretty much right!

Exercising 35-45 minutes in the 'fat-burning' zone will reduce the amount of

fat you are wearing BUT it will NOT grow muscle. The principle behind BFL is

increased muscle mass to increase metabolic rate.

If losing fat is key to your program, I'd suggest a modified BFL aerobic

portion, but this is a tweak and NOT straight BFL. Some people frown on

doing that for your first challenge. Part of the first challenge is to get

to intuitively get in touch with how your body works. If you wish to know

more, visit www.hussman.com/eas.

Les

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>

>Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 15:04:59 -0400

>

>Hey everyone!

>

>Here I am checking in with some updates and some more trivial questions for

>anyone to please answer. I am at C1W3D5, and today my substitute personal

>trainer who was filling in for my regular guy was discussing the concepts

>behind the 20 minute Aerobic Solution. He has his BS in Exercise Physio,

>and

>nonetheless what little expertise that provides he told me that one really

>has

>to exercise 35-45 minutes to EFFECTIVELY produce any metabolic fat burning

>results, he says there is substantial/emperical evidence to support this,

>does

>anyone have the ability to help me disagree with that when I meet with him

>next? Just curious...

>

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[Guest guest]

I respectfully disagree with Les, and your trainer.

Non medical reference:

http://www.exrx.net/FatLoss/HIITvsET.html

Medical references:

The distribution of rest periods affects performance and adaptations

of energy metabolism induced by high intensity training in human

muscle.

http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/Journals/processfree2.asp?

contentid=aps.2000.7 & filetype=abstracts & article=59906

I've got a ton more references, but got to go pick up the kids from

school. (play time at the zoo!) I'll post more later.

MP

> I hate to break it to you, but your personal trainer is pretty much

right!

> Exercising 35-45 minutes in the 'fat-burning' zone will reduce the

amount of

> fat you are wearing BUT it will NOT grow muscle. The principle

behind BFL is

> increased muscle mass to increase metabolic rate.

>

> If losing fat is key to your program, I'd suggest a modified BFL

aerobic

> portion, but this is a tweak and NOT straight BFL. Some people

frown on

> doing that for your first challenge. Part of the first challenge is

to get

> to intuitively get in touch with how your body works. If you wish

to know

> more, visit www.hussman.com/eas.

>

> Les

[Guest guest]

Actually, most of the research I have done has shown that high-

intensity interval training is the way to go for long-term effects on

fat-burning. The longer bouts of cardio will burn more fat *while

you are exercising* but the shorter, more intense sessions produce

an " afterburn " effect resulting in a significant elevation in

metabolism for *hours* after your workout. There have been numerous

studies done on this, measuring the metabolic rates at various

intervals following the short/intense workout in comparison with the

long/moderate workout. In all the studies, the " afterburn " affects

fat-burning more in the long-run, beyond just the length of your

actual workout. For me, hey - if my workout is going to continue to

burn more calories for hours after I'm done with it, that's the one I

will go for.

In addition, high-intensity interval training increases your lactic

acid tolerance (that's the " burn " you feel in your muscles toward the

end of your last weight set). The more tolerance you have for lactic

acid, the more the burn will be delayed, and the more weight you can

lift as a consequence. Hence, the BFL cardio actually enhances your

weight workouts, as well as providing the most bang for your buck as

far as aerobic exercise goes.

I hope that clarifies the difference between BFL cardio and

longer/more moderate cardio. That's why you need to stick to the

program for your first 12 weeks. You will have a lot of people

telling you this or that works so much better.... I say do it by the

book and then let your results speak for themselves.

Jen B.

> Hey everyone!

>

> Here I am checking in with some updates and some more trivial

questions for

> anyone to please answer. I am at C1W3D5, and today my substitute

personal

> trainer who was filling in for my regular guy was discussing the

concepts

> behind the 20 minute Aerobic Solution. He has his BS in Exercise

Physio, and

> nonetheless what little expertise that provides he told me that one

really has

> to exercise 35-45 minutes to EFFECTIVELY produce any metabolic fat

burning

> results, he says there is substantial/emperical evidence to support

this, does

> anyone have the ability to help me disagree with that when I meet

with him

> next? Just curious...

>

> Also, could you guys send me some of your meal ideas BESIDES the

MRP's and

> Bars, cottage cheese with fruits and myoplex just isn't giving me

enough

> variety especially with my active lifestyle where I don't have the

time to

> bake and cook just to eat, ya know?

>

> Anywho, I'm felling AWESOME, and journaling everything I've

invested so much

> already spiritually, financially, etc. and BOY is it worth it!

Anywho, hope

> to ehear back from you guys, I appreciate your input.

>

>

> Chris

> 21 Years Old

> Louisville, Kentucky

[Guest guest]

MP, you rock! Here I am writing a freakin' novel to and you

just throw a few links in there - BAM! Point made. I need to learn

to be more concise. LOL

Jen B.

> I respectfully disagree with Les, and your trainer.

>

> Non medical reference:

>

> http://www.exrx.net/FatLoss/HIITvsET.html

>

> Medical references:

> The distribution of rest periods affects performance and

adaptations

> of energy metabolism induced by high intensity training in human

> muscle.

> http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/Journals/processfree2.asp?

> contentid=aps.2000.7 & filetype=abstracts & article=59906

>

> I've got a ton more references, but got to go pick up the kids from

> school. (play time at the zoo!) I'll post more later.

>

> MP

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> > I hate to break it to you, but your personal trainer is pretty

much

> right!

> > Exercising 35-45 minutes in the 'fat-burning' zone will reduce

the

> amount of

> > fat you are wearing BUT it will NOT grow muscle. The principle

> behind BFL is

> > increased muscle mass to increase metabolic rate.

> >

> > If losing fat is key to your program, I'd suggest a modified BFL

> aerobic

> > portion, but this is a tweak and NOT straight BFL. Some people

> frown on

> > doing that for your first challenge. Part of the first challenge

is

> to get

> > to intuitively get in touch with how your body works. If you wish

> to know

> > more, visit www.hussman.com/eas.

> >

> > Les

[Guest guest]

Jen B.

Actually as a content delivery gal (meaning that is what I do for a living)

believe me putting the information right upfront there is more effective

them forcing them to leave to read an article. No offense MP, the

scientific studies ARE useful. But I tagged MPs email to follow the links

later but read your immediately.

>

>Reply-To: bodyforlife

>To: bodyforlife

>Subject: Re: Okay group-- Gimme some help here!!!

>Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 20:11:55 -0000

>

>MP, you rock! Here I am writing a freakin' novel to and you

>just throw a few links in there - BAM! Point made. I need to learn

>to be more concise. LOL

>

>Jen B.

>

>

> > I respectfully disagree with Les, and your trainer.

> >

> > Non medical reference:

> >

> > http://www.exrx.net/FatLoss/HIITvsET.html

> >

> > Medical references:

> > The distribution of rest periods affects performance and

>adaptations

> > of energy metabolism induced by high intensity training in human

> > muscle.

> > http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/Journals/processfree2.asp?

> > contentid=aps.2000.7 & filetype=abstracts & article=59906

> >

> > I've got a ton more references, but got to go pick up the kids from

> > school. (play time at the zoo!) I'll post more later.

> >

> > MP

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > > I hate to break it to you, but your personal trainer is pretty

>much

> > right!

> > > Exercising 35-45 minutes in the 'fat-burning' zone will reduce

>the

> > amount of

> > > fat you are wearing BUT it will NOT grow muscle. The principle

> > behind BFL is

> > > increased muscle mass to increase metabolic rate.

> > >

> > > If losing fat is key to your program, I'd suggest a modified BFL

> > aerobic

> > > portion, but this is a tweak and NOT straight BFL. Some people

> > frown on

> > > doing that for your first challenge. Part of the first challenge

>is

> > to get

> > > to intuitively get in touch with how your body works. If you wish

> > to know

> > > more, visit www.hussman.com/eas.

> > >

> > > Les

>

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MP,

Disagreements are what we all learn from. We will have to continue this

later. I'll see your references and raise you mine, but it will have to

wait. This is a bad weekend socially to spend time on the net. (*DW on hold

on the phone wanting to know when I plan to leave the office....*) Tho, I'm

not sure I understand what the J. Parra, et al., article (Blackwell-Synergy

URL) has to do with the issue:

" These results indicate that high-intensity >> not high intensity interval

<< cycling training in 14 sessions improves enzyme activities of anaerobic

and aerobic metabolism. These changes are affected by the distribution of

rest periods, hence shorter rest periods >>24 hrs vs. 72 hrs?<< produce

larger increase in pyruvate kinase, creatine kinase and lactate

dehydrogenase. __However, performance did not improve in a short training

programme that did not include days for recovery, which suggests that muscle

fibres suffer fatigue or injury__. "

Carats (my additions) and underscores (for emphasis) are mine. I'm still

examining the data on exrx.net.

Anyway, you are still my muscle princess!

Les

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>From: muscleprincess@...

>Date: Fri, 31 Aug 2001 20:03:39 -0000

>

>I respectfully disagree with Les, and your trainer.

>

>Non medical reference:

>

>http://www.exrx.net/FatLoss/HIITvsET.html

>

>Medical references:

>The distribution of rest periods affects performance and adaptations

>of energy metabolism induced by high intensity training in human

>muscle.

>http://www.blackwell-synergy.com/Journals/processfree2.asp?

>contentid=aps.2000.7 & filetype=abstracts & article=59906

>

>I've got a ton more references, but got to go pick up the kids from

>school. (play time at the zoo!) I'll post more later.

>

>MP

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[Guest guest]

I've been doing the high intensity interval cardio and don't go more

than a minute or two over my 20 minutes. Seems to work for burning

fat.

I used to run 6 miles per day. Of course, I wasn't eating or doing

much with the weights and it did nothing to burn the fat. The scale

just kept slowly creeping up.

Andyman

> > Hey everyone!

> >

> > Here I am checking in with some updates and some more trivial

> questions for

> > anyone to please answer. I am at C1W3D5, and today my substitute

> personal

> > trainer who was filling in for my regular guy was discussing the

> concepts

> > behind the 20 minute Aerobic Solution. He has his BS in Exercise

> Physio, and

> > nonetheless what little expertise that provides he told me that

one

> really has

> > to exercise 35-45 minutes to EFFECTIVELY produce any metabolic

fat

> burning

> > results, he says there is substantial/emperical evidence to

support

> this, does

> > anyone have the ability to help me disagree with that when I meet

> with him

> > next? Just curious...

> >

> > Also, could you guys send me some of your meal ideas BESIDES the

> MRP's and

> > Bars, cottage cheese with fruits and myoplex just isn't giving me

> enough

> > variety especially with my active lifestyle where I don't have

the

> time to

> > bake and cook just to eat, ya know?

> >

> > Anywho, I'm felling AWESOME, and journaling everything I've

> invested so much

> > already spiritually, financially, etc. and BOY is it worth it!

> Anywho, hope

> > to ehear back from you guys, I appreciate your input.

> >

> >

> > Chris

> > 21 Years Old

> > Louisville, Kentucky

[Guest guest]

I'm on C1W6D6 and all I can say is that so far I've been following

BFL by the book and I'm seeing results and since I'm seeing results,

why change it? I've never been in this good of shape in my life. I

have muscles coming up everywhere and my fat is slowly melting away.

My opinion is to stick with the book see what results you get. If you

aren't happy with your results after 12 weeks try tweaking it a bit.

Plus I use to run 5 miles every other day before BFL and I never came

close to looking the way I do now. Longer isn't always better!

& ><

> Hey everyone!

>

> Here I am checking in with some updates and some more trivial

questions for

> anyone to please answer. I am at C1W3D5, and today my substitute

personal

> trainer who was filling in for my regular guy was discussing the

concepts

> behind the 20 minute Aerobic Solution. He has his BS in Exercise

Physio, and

> nonetheless what little expertise that provides he told me that one

really has

> to exercise 35-45 minutes to EFFECTIVELY produce any metabolic fat

burning

> results, he says there is substantial/emperical evidence to support

this, does

> anyone have the ability to help me disagree with that when I meet

with him

> next? Just curious...

>

> Also, could you guys send me some of your meal ideas BESIDES the

MRP's and

> Bars, cottage cheese with fruits and myoplex just isn't giving me

enough

> variety especially with my active lifestyle where I don't have the

time to

> bake and cook just to eat, ya know?

>

> Anywho, I'm felling AWESOME, and journaling everything I've

invested so much

> already spiritually, financially, etc. and BOY is it worth it!

Anywho, hope

> to ehear back from you guys, I appreciate your input.

>

>

> Chris

> 21 Years Old

> Louisville, Kentucky