Guest guest Posted January 2, 2007 Report Share Posted January 2, 2007 for me, if i have to choose, local is more important than organic. it's fresher, it hasn't been trucked all over the country wasting gas.... and if you buy from a local stand, maybe you can talk to them about organics and change their thinking..." B." wrote: Hello again!I live in New England and I've found it difficult tofind local organic produce. I do frequent a farmstand that sells mostly local produce, but not much ofit is organic. Whole Foods & Trader Joe's both sellorganic produce and very little of it is local at thistime of year.So my question is, which is more important: local ororganic? I know the ideal is both. I am trying tokeep up with what is in season here, so rootvegetables, squashes, etc. I have also gotten someleafy greens. I appreciate any advice in this arena! Thanks!Nikki__________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2007 Report Share Posted January 2, 2007 It depends on how sensitive you are of the energy that is in your food, and ! I am sensitive to the chemicals (including pesticide and herbicides) that are used in growing otherwise perfect looking local carrots or broccoli (many of which I'm sure are grown using Integrated Pest Management), so I opt for foods that are organically grown, though they come from far away places like California (and I'm a Californian living for more than twenty years in Boston!). I eat a lot of organically grown short grain brown rice and the best organically grown short grain brown rice is grown in Northern California. If you can't taste or feel the difference, then do what you think or feel is best. Thank you, very much. Bruce Paine sarah wrote: for me, if i have to choose, local is more important than organic. it's fresher, it hasn't been trucked all over the country wasting gas.... and if you buy from a local stand, maybe you can talk to them about organics and change their thinking... " B." <nikkicita> wrote: Hello again! I live in New England and I've found it difficult to find local organic produce. I do frequent a farm stand that sells mostly local produce, but not much of it is organic. Whole Foods & Trader Joe's both sell organic produce and very little of it is local at this time of year. So my question is, which is more important: local or organic? I know the ideal is both. I am trying to keep up with what is in season here, so root vegetables, squashes, etc. I have also gotten some leafy greens. I appreciate any advice in this arena! Thanks! Nikki __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2007 Report Share Posted January 2, 2007 It depends on how sensitive you are of the energy that is in your food, and ! I am sensitive to the chemicals (including pesticide and herbicides) that are used in growing otherwise perfect looking local carrots or broccoli (many of which I'm sure are grown using Integrated Pest Management), so I opt for foods that are organically grown, though they come from far away places like California (and I'm a Californian living for more than twenty years in Boston!). I eat a lot of organically grown short grain brown rice and the best organically grown short grain brown rice is grown in Northern California. If you can't taste or feel the difference, then do what you think or feel is best. Thank you, very much. Bruce Paine sarah wrote: for me, if i have to choose, local is more important than organic. it's fresher, it hasn't been trucked all over the country wasting gas.... and if you buy from a local stand, maybe you can talk to them about organics and change their thinking... " B." <nikkicita> wrote: Hello again! I live in New England and I've found it difficult to find local organic produce. I do frequent a farm stand that sells mostly local produce, but not much of it is organic. Whole Foods & Trader Joe's both sell organic produce and very little of it is local at this time of year. So my question is, which is more important: local or organic? I know the ideal is both. I am trying to keep up with what is in season here, so root vegetables, squashes, etc. I have also gotten some leafy greens. I appreciate any advice in this arena! Thanks! Nikki __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2007 Report Share Posted January 2, 2007 Thanks for your insight Bruce! I'm in the Boston area as well. Would you mind if I asked where you believe the best sources for local and/or organic produce are? I split between Whole Foods, Trader Joe's, and the farmstands near my office. I did belong to the Boston Organics delivery service for a few months, but I found that the produce was sub par from them, and come fall most everything was not local. --- Bruce wrote: > It depends on how sensitive you are of the energy > that is in your food, > and ! > > I am sensitive to the chemicals (including pesticide > and herbicides) > that are used in growing otherwise perfect looking > local carrots or > broccoli (many of which I'm sure are grown using > Integrated Pest > Management), > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integrated_Pest_Management> > > so I opt for foods that are organically grown, > though they come from far > away places like California (and I'm a Californian > living for more than > twenty years in Boston!). > > I eat a lot of organically grown short grain brown > rice and the best > organically grown short grain brown rice is grown in > Northern California. > > If you can't taste or feel the difference, then do > what you think or > feel is best. > > Thank you, very much. > > Bruce Paine > <http://brucesaysbalancezine.typepad.com/brucesmbbookreview/> > > > sarah wrote: > > > > for me, if i have to choose, local is more > important than > > organic. it's fresher, it hasn't been trucked all > over the country > > wasting gas.... and if you buy from a local > stand, maybe you can talk > > to them about organics and change their > thinking... > > > > */ " B. " /* wrote: > > > > Hello again! > > > > I live in New England and I've found it > difficult to > > find local organic produce. I do frequent a > farm > > stand that sells mostly local produce, but not > much of > > it is organic. Whole Foods & Trader Joe's both > sell > > organic produce and very little of it is local > at this > > time of year. > > > > So my question is, which is more important: > local or > > organic? I know the ideal is both. I am trying > to > > keep up with what is in season here, so root > > vegetables, squashes, etc. I have also gotten > some > > leafy greens. > > > > I appreciate any advice in this arena! Thanks! > > > > Nikki > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2007 Report Share Posted January 2, 2007 Thanks for your insight Bruce! I'm in the Boston area as well. Would you mind if I asked where you believe the best sources for local and/or organic produce are? I split between Whole Foods, Trader Joe's, and the farmstands near my office. I did belong to the Boston Organics delivery service for a few months, but I found that the produce was sub par from them, and come fall most everything was not local. --- Bruce wrote: > It depends on how sensitive you are of the energy > that is in your food, > and ! > > I am sensitive to the chemicals (including pesticide > and herbicides) > that are used in growing otherwise perfect looking > local carrots or > broccoli (many of which I'm sure are grown using > Integrated Pest > Management), > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Integrated_Pest_Management> > > so I opt for foods that are organically grown, > though they come from far > away places like California (and I'm a Californian > living for more than > twenty years in Boston!). > > I eat a lot of organically grown short grain brown > rice and the best > organically grown short grain brown rice is grown in > Northern California. > > If you can't taste or feel the difference, then do > what you think or > feel is best. > > Thank you, very much. > > Bruce Paine > <http://brucesaysbalancezine.typepad.com/brucesmbbookreview/> > > > sarah wrote: > > > > for me, if i have to choose, local is more > important than > > organic. it's fresher, it hasn't been trucked all > over the country > > wasting gas.... and if you buy from a local > stand, maybe you can talk > > to them about organics and change their > thinking... > > > > */ " B. " /* wrote: > > > > Hello again! > > > > I live in New England and I've found it > difficult to > > find local organic produce. I do frequent a > farm > > stand that sells mostly local produce, but not > much of > > it is organic. Whole Foods & Trader Joe's both > sell > > organic produce and very little of it is local > at this > > time of year. > > > > So my question is, which is more important: > local or > > organic? I know the ideal is both. I am trying > to > > keep up with what is in season here, so root > > vegetables, squashes, etc. I have also gotten > some > > leafy greens. > > > > I appreciate any advice in this arena! Thanks! > > > > Nikki > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2007 Report Share Posted January 2, 2007 Hi Nikki The key is to have variety in your diet so I would suggest you use organic and supplement with local. Often the locally grown vegs have less pesticides these days and haven't travelled for miles. I would have a chat to the growers if you can and find out what they use. I agree that seasonal is preferred. When I lived in Portugal, I used mostly vegetables from the markets which were locally grown and picked fresh everyday. I really felt incredibly healthy on those wonderful vegs that seemed to quiver with vitality. All the farmers had small terraced plots and we could only get what was in season. It was great though and we would really look forward to new crop like peas which we would use like mad until they went out of season - then we didn't miss them at all because we had our fill and anyway the strawberries would arrive so we had something new to relish. I think we have become spoilt in the US - we can get any veg at any time and it sort of takes away that excitment and joy of the seasonal vegs - I must say I do enjoy the squash season and they really don't taste great in the summer and the same with corn in the winter. On that note I would still suggest to try to have as much seasonal variety as possible. Blessings Organic vs. Local > >Hello again! > >I live in New England and I've found it difficult to >find local organic produce. I do frequent a farm >stand that sells mostly local produce, but not much of >it is organic. Whole Foods & Trader Joe's both sell >organic produce and very little of it is local at this >time of year. > >So my question is, which is more important: local or >organic? I know the ideal is both. I am trying to >keep up with what is in season here, so root >vegetables, squashes, etc. I have also gotten some >leafy greens. > >I appreciate any advice in this arena! Thanks! > >Nikki > > > > >__________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 Hi ! I don't know how far you are willing to travel, but 's Farms in Lexington is well worth a trip. They are a little pricey, but their produce is of excellent quality. Most of it is grown right there, you can see the fields. Not all of it is organic, though. But the selection is amazing. Picked early in the morning and sold the same day. You should see their selection of pumpkins in the fall, I did not even know there were so many kinds! There are a lot of little farms and farmstands in that area, and each of them has their specialties. I remember when grocery shopping used to be one trip to Shaws, and now I go to 6 different stores and 4 farmstands for the things we need (sounds ridiculous, now that I wrote that down; I don't go to all 10 of them each week, though!). Shopping takes so much more time and thought now, but it's worth it. Then there is always Haymarket. It's a little chaotic, and I hate that I can't pick out the produce myself at most stands. Organic status is also questionable at most stands, it's a hunt-and-pick kind of place. But whatever you are looking for, you'll find it! Oh, and then there is the fact that it is located right downtown next to super-busy streets and everything is probably covered in exhaust fumes... ne > > Thanks for your insight Bruce! I'm in the Boston area > as well. Would you mind if I asked where you believe > the best sources for local and/or organic produce are? > > I split between Whole Foods, Trader Joe's, and the > farmstands near my office. I did belong to the Boston > Organics delivery service for a few months, but I > found that the produce was sub par from them, and come > fall most everything was not local. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 Hi ! I don't know how far you are willing to travel, but 's Farms in Lexington is well worth a trip. They are a little pricey, but their produce is of excellent quality. Most of it is grown right there, you can see the fields. Not all of it is organic, though. But the selection is amazing. Picked early in the morning and sold the same day. You should see their selection of pumpkins in the fall, I did not even know there were so many kinds! There are a lot of little farms and farmstands in that area, and each of them has their specialties. I remember when grocery shopping used to be one trip to Shaws, and now I go to 6 different stores and 4 farmstands for the things we need (sounds ridiculous, now that I wrote that down; I don't go to all 10 of them each week, though!). Shopping takes so much more time and thought now, but it's worth it. Then there is always Haymarket. It's a little chaotic, and I hate that I can't pick out the produce myself at most stands. Organic status is also questionable at most stands, it's a hunt-and-pick kind of place. But whatever you are looking for, you'll find it! Oh, and then there is the fact that it is located right downtown next to super-busy streets and everything is probably covered in exhaust fumes... ne > > Thanks for your insight Bruce! I'm in the Boston area > as well. Would you mind if I asked where you believe > the best sources for local and/or organic produce are? > > I split between Whole Foods, Trader Joe's, and the > farmstands near my office. I did belong to the Boston > Organics delivery service for a few months, but I > found that the produce was sub par from them, and come > fall most everything was not local. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 Hi ! I don't know how far you are willing to travel, but 's Farms in Lexington is well worth a trip. They are a little pricey, but their produce is of excellent quality. Most of it is grown right there, you can see the fields. Not all of it is organic, though. But the selection is amazing. Picked early in the morning and sold the same day. You should see their selection of pumpkins in the fall, I did not even know there were so many kinds! There are a lot of little farms and farmstands in that area, and each of them has their specialties. I remember when grocery shopping used to be one trip to Shaws, and now I go to 6 different stores and 4 farmstands for the things we need (sounds ridiculous, now that I wrote that down; I don't go to all 10 of them each week, though!). Shopping takes so much more time and thought now, but it's worth it. Then there is always Haymarket. It's a little chaotic, and I hate that I can't pick out the produce myself at most stands. Organic status is also questionable at most stands, it's a hunt-and-pick kind of place. But whatever you are looking for, you'll find it! Oh, and then there is the fact that it is located right downtown next to super-busy streets and everything is probably covered in exhaust fumes... ne > > Thanks for your insight Bruce! I'm in the Boston area > as well. Would you mind if I asked where you believe > the best sources for local and/or organic produce are? > > I split between Whole Foods, Trader Joe's, and the > farmstands near my office. I did belong to the Boston > Organics delivery service for a few months, but I > found that the produce was sub par from them, and come > fall most everything was not local. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 Thanks ne! I work one town over from Lexington, so I do try to make it out to Farms fairly often on my lunch hour. At night or on weekends it gets very hectic there! --- susanneguirakhoo wrote: > Hi ! > > I don't know how far you are willing to travel, but > 's Farms in > Lexington is well worth a trip. They are a little > pricey, but their > produce is of excellent quality. Most of it is grown > right there, you > can see the fields. Not all of it is organic, > though. But the > selection is amazing. Picked early in the morning > and sold the same > day. You should see their selection of pumpkins in > the fall, I did > not even know there were so many kinds! > > There are a lot of little farms and farmstands in > that area, and each > of them has their specialties. I remember when > grocery shopping used > to be one trip to Shaws, and now I go to 6 different > stores and 4 > farmstands for the things we need (sounds > ridiculous, now that I > wrote that down; I don't go to all 10 of them each > week, though!). > Shopping takes so much more time and thought now, > but it's worth it. > > Then there is always Haymarket. It's a little > chaotic, and I hate > that I can't pick out the produce myself at most > stands. Organic > status is also questionable at most stands, it's a > hunt-and-pick kind > of place. But whatever you are looking for, you'll > find it! Oh, and > then there is the fact that it is located right > downtown next to > super-busy streets and everything is probably > covered in exhaust > fumes... > > ne > > > > > > > Thanks for your insight Bruce! I'm in the Boston > area > > as well. Would you mind if I asked where you > believe > > the best sources for local and/or organic produce > are? > > > > I split between Whole Foods, Trader Joe's, and the > > farmstands near my office. I did belong to the > Boston > > Organics delivery service for a few months, but I > > found that the produce was sub par from them, and > come > > fall most everything was not local. > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 Thanks ne! I work one town over from Lexington, so I do try to make it out to Farms fairly often on my lunch hour. At night or on weekends it gets very hectic there! --- susanneguirakhoo wrote: > Hi ! > > I don't know how far you are willing to travel, but > 's Farms in > Lexington is well worth a trip. They are a little > pricey, but their > produce is of excellent quality. Most of it is grown > right there, you > can see the fields. Not all of it is organic, > though. But the > selection is amazing. Picked early in the morning > and sold the same > day. You should see their selection of pumpkins in > the fall, I did > not even know there were so many kinds! > > There are a lot of little farms and farmstands in > that area, and each > of them has their specialties. I remember when > grocery shopping used > to be one trip to Shaws, and now I go to 6 different > stores and 4 > farmstands for the things we need (sounds > ridiculous, now that I > wrote that down; I don't go to all 10 of them each > week, though!). > Shopping takes so much more time and thought now, > but it's worth it. > > Then there is always Haymarket. It's a little > chaotic, and I hate > that I can't pick out the produce myself at most > stands. Organic > status is also questionable at most stands, it's a > hunt-and-pick kind > of place. But whatever you are looking for, you'll > find it! Oh, and > then there is the fact that it is located right > downtown next to > super-busy streets and everything is probably > covered in exhaust > fumes... > > ne > > > > > > > Thanks for your insight Bruce! I'm in the Boston > area > > as well. Would you mind if I asked where you > believe > > the best sources for local and/or organic produce > are? > > > > I split between Whole Foods, Trader Joe's, and the > > farmstands near my office. I did belong to the > Boston > > Organics delivery service for a few months, but I > > found that the produce was sub par from them, and > come > > fall most everything was not local. > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 Thanks ne! I work one town over from Lexington, so I do try to make it out to Farms fairly often on my lunch hour. At night or on weekends it gets very hectic there! --- susanneguirakhoo wrote: > Hi ! > > I don't know how far you are willing to travel, but > 's Farms in > Lexington is well worth a trip. They are a little > pricey, but their > produce is of excellent quality. Most of it is grown > right there, you > can see the fields. Not all of it is organic, > though. But the > selection is amazing. Picked early in the morning > and sold the same > day. You should see their selection of pumpkins in > the fall, I did > not even know there were so many kinds! > > There are a lot of little farms and farmstands in > that area, and each > of them has their specialties. I remember when > grocery shopping used > to be one trip to Shaws, and now I go to 6 different > stores and 4 > farmstands for the things we need (sounds > ridiculous, now that I > wrote that down; I don't go to all 10 of them each > week, though!). > Shopping takes so much more time and thought now, > but it's worth it. > > Then there is always Haymarket. It's a little > chaotic, and I hate > that I can't pick out the produce myself at most > stands. Organic > status is also questionable at most stands, it's a > hunt-and-pick kind > of place. But whatever you are looking for, you'll > find it! Oh, and > then there is the fact that it is located right > downtown next to > super-busy streets and everything is probably > covered in exhaust > fumes... > > ne > > > > > > > Thanks for your insight Bruce! I'm in the Boston > area > > as well. Would you mind if I asked where you > believe > > the best sources for local and/or organic produce > are? > > > > I split between Whole Foods, Trader Joe's, and the > > farmstands near my office. I did belong to the > Boston > > Organics delivery service for a few months, but I > > found that the produce was sub par from them, and > come > > fall most everything was not local. > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 oh, well, then that was not very helpful. Do you know Land's End Farm in Needham (I think)? They have the best and most interesting root vegetables, besides offering a coop program. I also like the farmstand on the corner of Waltham and Concord, and the one on Rt. 28 in Reading, right off the 128 exit. Have the best basil! Where do you like to go? ne > > > > > > Thanks for your insight Bruce! I'm in the Boston > > area > > > as well. Would you mind if I asked where you > > believe > > > the best sources for local and/or organic produce > > are? > > > > > > I split between Whole Foods, Trader Joe's, and the > > > farmstands near my office. I did belong to the > > Boston > > > Organics delivery service for a few months, but I > > > found that the produce was sub par from them, and > > come > > > fall most everything was not local. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 oh, well, then that was not very helpful. Do you know Land's End Farm in Needham (I think)? They have the best and most interesting root vegetables, besides offering a coop program. I also like the farmstand on the corner of Waltham and Concord, and the one on Rt. 28 in Reading, right off the 128 exit. Have the best basil! Where do you like to go? ne > > > > > > Thanks for your insight Bruce! I'm in the Boston > > area > > > as well. Would you mind if I asked where you > > believe > > > the best sources for local and/or organic produce > > are? > > > > > > I split between Whole Foods, Trader Joe's, and the > > > farmstands near my office. I did belong to the > > Boston > > > Organics delivery service for a few months, but I > > > found that the produce was sub par from them, and > > come > > > fall most everything was not local. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2007 Report Share Posted January 3, 2007 I so agree with this! Macrobiotics is about flexibility and not making any " rules " for yourself. A wide variety off all foods (not just veges) is very important. My dear friend who lived near Tokyo while I was living in Kobe would only eat organic from the local healthfood store. It was winter, so she got tons of root vegetables. She thought is was so healthy for her to have all these organic foods and then realized she had become very tense and tight from all of these root veges. She needed to head off to another market and find some leafy greens and even though they were conventional she felt so much better afterwards. > > Hi Nikki > > The key is to have variety in your diet so I would suggest you use organic and supplement with local. Often the locally grown vegs have less pesticides these days and haven't travelled for miles. I would have a chat to the growers if you can and find out what they use. I agree that seasonal is preferred. > > When I lived in Portugal, I used mostly vegetables from the markets which were locally grown and picked fresh everyday. I really felt incredibly healthy on those wonderful vegs that seemed to quiver with vitality. All the farmers had small terraced plots and we could only get what was in season. It was great though and we would really look forward to new crop like peas which we would use like mad until they went out of season - then we didn't miss them at all because we had our fill and anyway the strawberries would arrive so we had something new to relish. I think we have become spoilt in the US - we can get any veg at any time and it sort of takes away that excitment and joy of the seasonal vegs - I must say I do enjoy the squash season and they really don't taste great in the summer and the same with corn in the winter. > > On that note I would still suggest to try to have as much seasonal variety as possible. > > Blessings > > > Organic vs. Local > > > >Hello again! > > > >I live in New England and I've found it difficult to > >find local organic produce. I do frequent a farm > >stand that sells mostly local produce, but not much of > >it is organic. Whole Foods & Trader Joe's both sell > >organic produce and very little of it is local at this > >time of year. > > > >So my question is, which is more important: local or > >organic? I know the ideal is both. I am trying to > >keep up with what is in season here, so root > >vegetables, squashes, etc. I have also gotten some > >leafy greens. > > > >I appreciate any advice in this arena! Thanks! > > > >Nikki > > > > > > > > > >__________________________________________________ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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