Guest guest Posted May 29, 2004 Report Share Posted May 29, 2004 Hi Katja, I was wondering why you think 3 to 6 months is as long as is necessary to take HCl? There is a book by V. , M.D., about the importance of having enough HCl. Have you read it? Do you take your HCl at the start of a meal? Now I think I have run out of questions...for the moment. :-) I need 5 HCl caps with every meal. My skin problem " rosacea " is 95% improved.It is really amazing and wonderful to have digestive problems a thing of the past. I also follow a very NT way of diet with only a tiny bit of grain now and then. My digestion is greatly enhanced by this way of eating. I love it! TIA, Sheila -- In , " Elaine " <itchyink@s...> wrote: > I also have to mention HCl, just because it's done so many good things for > me. We pay so much attention to probiotics and enzymes, but if you're > stomach isn't making enough of its own HCl, then you'll have problems of all > kinds. After being on it for about a month now my skin has natural moisture > again and my constipation (and temporary diarrhea) are resolved. You take a > little with each meal, upping the dose until you feel burning in your > stomach and then cutting back to the previous days dose. I've heard you stay > on it for 3 to 6 months. As for glutens, i would say eliminating the easy > stuff is good for starters. it's a big step. > Elaine > > well, i would say that he has to eliminate allllllll gluten. > > except, i've seen people improve (albeit minimally) by just eliminating the > > " easy " gluten - enough improvement that they're willing to try for the next > > step. so i guess it comes down to your brother. if he freaks out when you > > bring it up, then just go for as much as you can get, i guess. just it's > > important to understand that if he wants drastic results, you gotta take > > drastic measures. if he freaks about it, one possible suggestion would be > > for you to do all the work for two weeks: just get him to agree to eat only > > what you cook for him (which means you gotta make his lunches too!) for two > > weeks and see if he improves...it's a bunch of work for you but if you > > really want to make an impact on him, it would definitely work... > > > > as for cookies and stuff, i have some great cookie and cake recipes using > > ground crispy almonds - you don't even have to worry about xanthan gum and > > all the different flours - they're very easy as a sort of " starter " in > > gluten free baking... > > -katja > > > > At 03:20 PM 5/28/2004, you wrote: > >> Fortunately, there is no candy (except my tiny bars of high quality > >> chocolate I keep hidden and nibble on occasionally) and almost no > >> junk food, although I keep a few select cookies and good quality ice > >> cream on hand for the kids and husband. He is actually not staying > >> with me, but next door with my sister, (who cooks well and > >> frequently, but doesn't follow NT at all). The gluten tip (thanks to > >> both of you) is a good one. I didn't think of that. I think he will > >> eat here regularly as well, and I can talk to him about some dietary > >> changes, but he is out and about, and I'm sure he's used to eating > >> fast food for lunch. What if I suggested he just start with the > >> obvious gluten (bread, pasta, wheat products), instead of reading > >> every label? Do you think he has to eliminate it completely to see > >> improvement or is it also a function of quantity injested? > >> > >> Been in college for 2 years at a frat house, so his nutrition is > >> probably dismal. > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2004 Report Share Posted May 29, 2004 I dont' know if these questions were meant for me or for Katja, but sounds like me? I think 3 to 6 months simply because that's what NDs have said. I have not read anything but would like to, thanks for the tip. I was told to take it immediately after the last bite or right before the last bite of a meal. I have what looks like mild rosacea so i'm hopeful this will help it go, as well as a reduced-grain or grain-free diet. Thanks! Elaine > Hi Katja, > I was wondering why you think 3 to 6 months is as long as is > necessary to take HCl? > There is a book by V. , M.D., about the importance of > having enough HCl. Have you read it? > Do you take your HCl at the start of a meal? Now I think I have run > out of questions...for the moment. :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2004 Report Share Posted May 30, 2004 Sorry about the mix up of names. The book about HCl can be found at http://www.tahoma- clinic.com/crier.shtml. (The Tahoma clinicis the cheapest place to buy the HCl, that I have found so far.) I swear someone at ths message board has referred to this book in the past. I always take my HCl just before I eat, so of course I am wondering what the famous advocate of HCl, J.V. , M.D., has to say about the correct time to take HCl. By the way, a long time ago, Sally Fallon suggested HCl and beet kvass for my rosacea, but it wasn't until I got the necessary dose of HCl that I really saw improvement. i do use the beet kvass too. I'm sure I have read, in one of Alan Gaby and J.V. 's books, of some people having to take HCl for at least a year. I wish you well, Sheila --- In , " Elaine " <itchyink@s...> wrote: > I dont' know if these questions were meant for me or for Katja, but sounds > like me? I think 3 to 6 months simply because that's what NDs have said. I > have not read anything but would like to, thanks for the tip. I was told to > take it immediately after the last bite or right before the last bite of a > meal. I have what looks like mild rosacea so i'm hopeful this will help it > go, as well as a reduced-grain or grain-free diet. Thanks! > Elaine > > Hi Katja, > > I was wondering why you think 3 to 6 months is as long as is > > necessary to take HCl? > > There is a book by V. , M.D., about the importance of > > having enough HCl. Have you read it? > > Do you take your HCl at the start of a meal? Now I think I have run > > out of questions...for the moment. :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 31, 2004 Report Share Posted May 31, 2004 >Sorry about the mix up of names. >The book about HCl can be found at <http://www.tahoma->http://www.tahoma- >clinic.com/crier.shtml. (The Tahoma clinicis the cheapest place to >buy the HCl, that I have found so far.) I swear someone at ths >message board has referred to this book in the past. >I always take my HCl just before I eat, so of course I am wondering >what the famous advocate of HCl, J.V. , M.D., has to say about >the correct time to take HCl. Dr. works at the Tahoma clinic, which is about 80 miles south of me, and I met one of his patients, which is how I found out about the book. Dr. says you'll have to take it forever, but he also isn't into gluten intolerance ... the gluten intolerant people who give up gluten AND take HCL seem to recover after some length of time (which varies, can be up to 2 years, some never). But in the book the statement is that HCL declines with age ... personally I don't think this is necessarily true, though it may be true in our particular society with it's odd diet. Most gastros think that " villi blunting " is a function of age too, but somehow the villi recover with a gluten free diet, even when the person is older. -- Heidi Jean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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