Re: Interview with Dr. Blaylock on MSG, Aspartame, Excitotoxins plus

[Guest guest]

I've saved the article. If I could only get my dad to read it, I'd be

happy.

Reg

>

>

> This is a good interview with Dr. Blaylock on his excellent

> research and experiences. Please also note what he has to say

about

> magnesium.

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[Guest guest]

I just read this interview with Dr. Blaylock. He says:

>I think people ought to avoid soy

> products as if they were poison.

And...Dr. Blaylock speaking about vegetarians:

>

>They found out that

> the people who consumed the most soybean products had the greatest

> incidence of dementia and brain atrophy.

I say Yikes! I lived with a lady for 10 months who had alzheimers.

That's the last thing I want.

I don't eat much soy products, but I was planning on increasing my

use of it as a substitute for dairy products - which I thought were

unhealthy.

Without dairy or soy,. can we still get all the protein we need?

My freind, a long time lacto vegetarian .. is leary of my new

resolve to quit dairy. He likes to remind me of some people he knew

who were on a macrobiotic diet. He says they were NOT poster

children for good health. He says they looked like they were

undernourished and lacked vitality. I'd sure like to know what to

read on the subject, because I really want to be off dairy.

~barb

[Guest guest]

I just read this interview with Dr. Blaylock. He says:

>I think people ought to avoid soy

> products as if they were poison.

And...Dr. Blaylock speaking about vegetarians:

>

>They found out that

> the people who consumed the most soybean products had the greatest

> incidence of dementia and brain atrophy.

I say Yikes! I lived with a lady for 10 months who had alzheimers.

That's the last thing I want.

I don't eat much soy products, but I was planning on increasing my

use of it as a substitute for dairy products - which I thought were

unhealthy.

Without dairy or soy,. can we still get all the protein we need?

My freind, a long time lacto vegetarian .. is leary of my new

resolve to quit dairy. He likes to remind me of some people he knew

who were on a macrobiotic diet. He says they were NOT poster

children for good health. He says they looked like they were

undernourished and lacked vitality. I'd sure like to know what to

read on the subject, because I really want to be off dairy.

~barb

[Guest guest]

I just read this interview with Dr. Blaylock. He says:

>I think people ought to avoid soy

> products as if they were poison.

And...Dr. Blaylock speaking about vegetarians:

>

>They found out that

> the people who consumed the most soybean products had the greatest

> incidence of dementia and brain atrophy.

I say Yikes! I lived with a lady for 10 months who had alzheimers.

That's the last thing I want.

I don't eat much soy products, but I was planning on increasing my

use of it as a substitute for dairy products - which I thought were

unhealthy.

Without dairy or soy,. can we still get all the protein we need?

My freind, a long time lacto vegetarian .. is leary of my new

resolve to quit dairy. He likes to remind me of some people he knew

who were on a macrobiotic diet. He says they were NOT poster

children for good health. He says they looked like they were

undernourished and lacked vitality. I'd sure like to know what to

read on the subject, because I really want to be off dairy.

~barb

[Guest guest]

the problem is with isolated and heavily unnaturally processed soy -

not traditionally fermented ones like miso, shoyu, tamari and tempeh

and natto.

Soy milk used as a substitute is also unhealthy though good quality

ones are fine for ocassional use for those in good health. It is the

mind set that we need to sunstitute something for meat and dairy that

can get us into trouble and fear.

OF course it is important to look to good sources of nutrients but if

it is lack of calcium that is feared that is rarely an issue - plant

foods provide more quality minerals and dont have the imbalanced that

dairy does - ie it is the magnesium that is lacking for most people in

western life and dairy just perpetuates that imbalance (there is a

ratio of 8:1 cal to mag in milk

soy is added to so many processed foods these days in a very bad form

for our bodies to deal with - not just in susbstitute foods but also in

regular products as extenders etc

thewolfhowells wrote:

I just read this interview with Dr. Blaylock. He says:

>I think people ought to avoid soy

> products as if they were poison.

And...Dr. Blaylock speaking about vegetarians:

>

>They found out that

> the people who consumed the most soybean products had the greatest

> incidence of dementia and brain atrophy.

I say Yikes! I lived with a lady for 10 months who had alzheimers.

That's the last thing I want.

I don't eat much soy products, but I was planning on increasing my

use of it as a substitute for dairy products - which I thought were

unhealthy.

Without dairy or soy,. can we still get all the protein we need?

My freind, a long time lacto vegetarian .. is leary of my new

resolve to quit dairy. He likes to remind me of some people he knew

who were on a macrobiotic diet. He says they were NOT poster

children for good health. He says they looked like they were

undernourished and lacked vitality. I'd sure like to know what to

read on the subject, because I really want to be off dairy.

~barb

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Ilanit

Ms Ilanit Tof

B.A. (Psychophysiology/Psychology)

Advanced Diploma Healing with Wholefoods

PhD Holistic Nutrition (candidate)

Little Tree Oriental Healing Arts

Helping you grow to new heights of wellbeing

with Oriental Traditions and Modern Nutrition

ilanit@...

www.littletree.com.au

[Guest guest]

the problem is with isolated and heavily unnaturally processed soy -

not traditionally fermented ones like miso, shoyu, tamari and tempeh

and natto.

Soy milk used as a substitute is also unhealthy though good quality

ones are fine for ocassional use for those in good health. It is the

mind set that we need to sunstitute something for meat and dairy that

can get us into trouble and fear.

OF course it is important to look to good sources of nutrients but if

it is lack of calcium that is feared that is rarely an issue - plant

foods provide more quality minerals and dont have the imbalanced that

dairy does - ie it is the magnesium that is lacking for most people in

western life and dairy just perpetuates that imbalance (there is a

ratio of 8:1 cal to mag in milk

soy is added to so many processed foods these days in a very bad form

for our bodies to deal with - not just in susbstitute foods but also in

regular products as extenders etc

thewolfhowells wrote:

I just read this interview with Dr. Blaylock. He says:

>I think people ought to avoid soy

> products as if they were poison.

And...Dr. Blaylock speaking about vegetarians:

>

>They found out that

> the people who consumed the most soybean products had the greatest

> incidence of dementia and brain atrophy.

I say Yikes! I lived with a lady for 10 months who had alzheimers.

That's the last thing I want.

I don't eat much soy products, but I was planning on increasing my

use of it as a substitute for dairy products - which I thought were

unhealthy.

Without dairy or soy,. can we still get all the protein we need?

My freind, a long time lacto vegetarian .. is leary of my new

resolve to quit dairy. He likes to remind me of some people he knew

who were on a macrobiotic diet. He says they were NOT poster

children for good health. He says they looked like they were

undernourished and lacked vitality. I'd sure like to know what to

read on the subject, because I really want to be off dairy.

~barb

--

Ilanit Tof - Signature

Ilanit

Ms Ilanit Tof

B.A. (Psychophysiology/Psychology)

Advanced Diploma Healing with Wholefoods

PhD Holistic Nutrition (candidate)

Little Tree Oriental Healing Arts

Helping you grow to new heights of wellbeing

with Oriental Traditions and Modern Nutrition

ilanit@...

www.littletree.com.au

[Guest guest]

>

>

>

> the problem is with isolated and heavily unnaturally processed

soy - not

> traditionally fermented ones like miso, shoyu, tamari and tempeh

and natto.

Thank you for your reply. What do you mean by " isolated " ? Also,

would you say tofu is one of those heavily processed soy products?

even if it says organic? I've never even heard of natto. or

shoyu,. I need some educating it seems.

It is the mind set

> that we need to substitute something for meat and dairy that can

get us

> into trouble and fear.

This is a good point.

Thanks for the reminder. A lot of soy products are geared to look

like meat, as replacements for those who are used to meat. I always

thought it was dumb... but here I am looking for the same sort of

substitute for dairy products. :-)

~barb howell

[Guest guest]

Hello Barb,

Yes the world is waking up to the dangers of poorly processed soya products. To my knowledge this does not apply to fermented soya; miso, shoyu, tempeh or natto. Tofu is a grey area as it has been a part of traditional Japanese cooking and they do not have noticeable increased incidence of dementia. The tofu used in miso soup is possibly used in smaller quantities than used in the west but the portions in tofu dishes is similar.

Protein is not an issue as every living plant contains protein – otherwise it would not grow. The most you could claim is that no one vegetable food contains a complete protein (contains all amino acids) and it is therefore necessary to make sure you have grains and beans or nuts or seeds in a twenty-four hour period.

Many beans, nuts, seeds and even grains have as much and sometime more protein per 100g than meats.

The only two known nutrients that are likely to be deficient eating a vegan macrobiotic diet are vitamin D and B12, both of which could adversely effect children’s health. There have been many discussions on this site on how to overcome this. Personally I primarily eat macrobiotically for health and for environmental reasons and therefore do occasionally eat some fish, seafood and organic yoghurt and get my vitamin D and B12 that way but many people here have eaten a vegan diet and found supplements.

All the best,

Simon

I just read this interview with Dr. Blaylock. He says:

>I think people ought to avoid soy

> products as if they were poison.

And...Dr. Blaylock speaking about vegetarians:

>

>They found out that

> the people who consumed the most soybean products had the greatest

> incidence of dementia and brain atrophy.

I say Yikes! I lived with a lady for 10 months who had alzheimers.

That's the last thing I want.

I don't eat much soy products, but I was planning on increasing my

use of it as a substitute for dairy products - which I thought were

unhealthy.

Without dairy or soy,. can we still get all the protein we need?

My freind, a long time lacto vegetarian .. is leary of my new

resolve to quit dairy. He likes to remind me of some people he knew

who were on a macrobiotic diet. He says they were NOT poster

children for good health. He says they looked like they were

undernourished and lacked vitality. I'd sure like to know what to

read on the subject, because I really want to be off dairy.

~barb

[Guest guest]

Hello Barb,

Yes the world is waking up to the dangers of poorly processed soya products. To my knowledge this does not apply to fermented soya; miso, shoyu, tempeh or natto. Tofu is a grey area as it has been a part of traditional Japanese cooking and they do not have noticeable increased incidence of dementia. The tofu used in miso soup is possibly used in smaller quantities than used in the west but the portions in tofu dishes is similar.

Protein is not an issue as every living plant contains protein – otherwise it would not grow. The most you could claim is that no one vegetable food contains a complete protein (contains all amino acids) and it is therefore necessary to make sure you have grains and beans or nuts or seeds in a twenty-four hour period.

Many beans, nuts, seeds and even grains have as much and sometime more protein per 100g than meats.

The only two known nutrients that are likely to be deficient eating a vegan macrobiotic diet are vitamin D and B12, both of which could adversely effect children’s health. There have been many discussions on this site on how to overcome this. Personally I primarily eat macrobiotically for health and for environmental reasons and therefore do occasionally eat some fish, seafood and organic yoghurt and get my vitamin D and B12 that way but many people here have eaten a vegan diet and found supplements.

All the best,

Simon

I just read this interview with Dr. Blaylock. He says:

>I think people ought to avoid soy

> products as if they were poison.

And...Dr. Blaylock speaking about vegetarians:

>

>They found out that

> the people who consumed the most soybean products had the greatest

> incidence of dementia and brain atrophy.

I say Yikes! I lived with a lady for 10 months who had alzheimers.

That's the last thing I want.

I don't eat much soy products, but I was planning on increasing my

use of it as a substitute for dairy products - which I thought were

unhealthy.

Without dairy or soy,. can we still get all the protein we need?

My freind, a long time lacto vegetarian .. is leary of my new

resolve to quit dairy. He likes to remind me of some people he knew

who were on a macrobiotic diet. He says they were NOT poster

children for good health. He says they looked like they were

undernourished and lacked vitality. I'd sure like to know what to

read on the subject, because I really want to be off dairy.

~barb

[Guest guest]

Hello Barb,

Yes the world is waking up to the dangers of poorly processed soya products. To my knowledge this does not apply to fermented soya; miso, shoyu, tempeh or natto. Tofu is a grey area as it has been a part of traditional Japanese cooking and they do not have noticeable increased incidence of dementia. The tofu used in miso soup is possibly used in smaller quantities than used in the west but the portions in tofu dishes is similar.

Protein is not an issue as every living plant contains protein – otherwise it would not grow. The most you could claim is that no one vegetable food contains a complete protein (contains all amino acids) and it is therefore necessary to make sure you have grains and beans or nuts or seeds in a twenty-four hour period.

Many beans, nuts, seeds and even grains have as much and sometime more protein per 100g than meats.

The only two known nutrients that are likely to be deficient eating a vegan macrobiotic diet are vitamin D and B12, both of which could adversely effect children’s health. There have been many discussions on this site on how to overcome this. Personally I primarily eat macrobiotically for health and for environmental reasons and therefore do occasionally eat some fish, seafood and organic yoghurt and get my vitamin D and B12 that way but many people here have eaten a vegan diet and found supplements.

All the best,

Simon

I just read this interview with Dr. Blaylock. He says:

>I think people ought to avoid soy

> products as if they were poison.

And...Dr. Blaylock speaking about vegetarians:

>

>They found out that

> the people who consumed the most soybean products had the greatest

> incidence of dementia and brain atrophy.

I say Yikes! I lived with a lady for 10 months who had alzheimers.

That's the last thing I want.

I don't eat much soy products, but I was planning on increasing my

use of it as a substitute for dairy products - which I thought were

unhealthy.

Without dairy or soy,. can we still get all the protein we need?

My freind, a long time lacto vegetarian .. is leary of my new

resolve to quit dairy. He likes to remind me of some people he knew

who were on a macrobiotic diet. He says they were NOT poster

children for good health. He says they looked like they were

undernourished and lacked vitality. I'd sure like to know what to

read on the subject, because I really want to be off dairy.

~barb

[Guest guest]

I completely agree with Ilanit. Isolated soy protein is in so many

products nowadays, from vitamins, to baked goods, to cereals, chili,

protein drinks, Dr. Bragg's, etc. etc. It's not at all what

traditional cultures have eaten and is highly refined.

> >

> >

> >

> > the problem is with isolated and heavily unnaturally processed

> soy - not

> > traditionally fermented ones like miso, shoyu, tamari and tempeh

> and natto.

>

> Thank you for your reply. What do you mean by " isolated " ? Also,

> would you say tofu is one of those heavily processed soy

products?

> even if it says organic? I've never even heard of natto. or

> shoyu,. I need some educating it seems.

>

> It is the mind set

> > that we need to substitute something for meat and dairy that can

> get us

> > into trouble and fear.

>

> This is a good point.

> Thanks for the reminder. A lot of soy products are geared to look

> like meat, as replacements for those who are used to meat. I

always

> thought it was dumb... but here I am looking for the same sort of

> substitute for dairy products. :-)

>

> ~barb howell

>

[Guest guest]

I completely agree with Ilanit. Isolated soy protein is in so many

products nowadays, from vitamins, to baked goods, to cereals, chili,

protein drinks, Dr. Bragg's, etc. etc. It's not at all what

traditional cultures have eaten and is highly refined.

> >

> >

> >

> > the problem is with isolated and heavily unnaturally processed

> soy - not

> > traditionally fermented ones like miso, shoyu, tamari and tempeh

> and natto.

>

> Thank you for your reply. What do you mean by " isolated " ? Also,

> would you say tofu is one of those heavily processed soy

products?

> even if it says organic? I've never even heard of natto. or

> shoyu,. I need some educating it seems.

>

> It is the mind set

> > that we need to substitute something for meat and dairy that can

> get us

> > into trouble and fear.

>

> This is a good point.

> Thanks for the reminder. A lot of soy products are geared to look

> like meat, as replacements for those who are used to meat. I

always

> thought it was dumb... but here I am looking for the same sort of

> substitute for dairy products. :-)

>

> ~barb howell

>