Re: Re: re PPd (epocrates)

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Another weakness for Epocrates is that it is Bloatware....huge memory

footprint and I don't believe it will run from an expansion card. If you

have limited RAM (like my Treo) that is a big drawback.

As for the strength of the prescribing information, I'll leave that up to

you as that's not my union.

Brett Kinsler, DC

....... Original Message .......

On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 17:49:47 -0400 " L. Gordon "

wrote:

>Inexpensive access to very good prescribing information on a

>handheld. Use it daily. High value, low cost, high convenience.

>

>Weakness: need to go to online resource like Micromedex to get into

>complicated issues like " Which bugs does this ABX cover? " Does not

>have tables (like in Drug Facts and Comparisons) for equating

>narcotic analgesics, comparing oral contraceptive formulation.

>

>Overall assessment: slam dunk. Get it.

>Gorodn

>At 03:25 PM 7/17/2006, you wrote:

>

>>Sorry for the subject change ...but ...Is anyone currently using

>>Epocrates? If so could you tell me pros and cons about it?

>>

>

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RE Epocrates bloatware

Not my experience -- runs very well on my Old Tungsten T3

Re: Re: re PPd (epocrates)

> Another weakness for Epocrates is that it is Bloatware....huge memory

> footprint and I don't believe it will run from an expansion card. If you

> have limited RAM (like my Treo) that is a big drawback.

>

> As for the strength of the prescribing information, I'll leave that up to

> you as that's not my union.

>

> Brett Kinsler, DC

>

> ...... Original Message .......

> On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 17:49:47 -0400 " L. Gordon "

> wrote:

>>Inexpensive access to very good prescribing information on a

>>handheld. Use it daily. High value, low cost, high convenience.

>>

>>Weakness: need to go to online resource like Micromedex to get into

>>complicated issues like " Which bugs does this ABX cover? " Does not

>>have tables (like in Drug Facts and Comparisons) for equating

>>narcotic analgesics, comparing oral contraceptive formulation.

>>

>>Overall assessment: slam dunk. Get it.

>>Gorodn

>>At 03:25 PM 7/17/2006, you wrote:

>>

>>>Sorry for the subject change ...but ...Is anyone currently using

>>>Epocrates? If so could you tell me pros and cons about it?

>>>

>>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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I also use the free online version often in front of the patient. I find it very helpful especially the drug interaction section because my EMR doesn't have a good integrated interaction checker. Larry Lindeman MDRE Epocrates bloatwareNot my experience -- runs very well on my Old Tungsten T3 Re: Re: re PPd (epocrates)> Another weakness for Epocrates is that it is Bloatware....huge memory> footprint and I don't believe it will run from an expansion card. If you> have limited RAM (like my Treo) that is a big drawback.>> As for the strength of the prescribing information, I'll leave that up to> you as that's not my union.>> Brett Kinsler, DC>> ...... Original Message .......> On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 17:49:47 -0400 "L. Gordon "> <gmooreidealhealthnetwork> wrote:>>Inexpensive access to very good prescribing information on a>>handheld. Use it daily. High value, low cost, high convenience.>>>>Weakness: need to go to online resource like Micromedex to get into>>complicated issues like "Which bugs does this ABX cover?" Does not>>have tables (like in Drug Facts and Comparisons) for equating>>narcotic analgesics, comparing oral contraceptive formulation.>>>>Overall assessment: slam dunk. Get it.>>Gorodn>>At 03:25 PM 7/17/2006, you wrote:>>>>>Sorry for the subject change ...but ...Is anyone currently using>>>Epocrates? If so could you tell me pros and cons about it?>>>>>>>>>>>

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Tungsten T3 has 64 MB RAM

Treo 650 = 23 MB

Epocrates requires about 9.5 MB + 20K per health plan formulary. Plus, if you run a device with Non Volatile File System (NVFS) as are the Tungsten T5, Treo 650, and LifeDrive, the amount of memory required is 33% larger (about 12 MB).

That's more than half Treo's internal RAM for a single program.

It's a great program but I stand by my 'bloatware' comment.

Brett

Re: Re: re PPd (epocrates)> Another weakness for Epocrates is that it is Bloatware....huge memory> footprint and I don't believe it will run from an expansion card. If you> have limited RAM (like my Treo) that is a big drawback.>> As for the strength of the prescribing information, I'll leave that up to> you as that's not my union.>> Brett Kinsler, DC>> ...... Original Message .......> On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 17:49:47 -0400 "L. Gordon "> <gmooreidealhealthnetwork> wrote:>>Inexpensive access to very good prescribing information on a>>handheld. Use it daily. High value, low cost, high convenience.>>>>Weakness: need to go to online resource like Micromedex to get into>>complicated issues like "Which bugs does this ABX cover?" Does not>>have tables (like in Drug Facts and Comparisons) for equating>>narcotic analgesics, comparing oral contraceptive formulation.>>>>Overall assessment: slam dunk. Get it.>>Gorodn>>At 03:25 PM 7/17/2006, you wrote:>>>>>Sorry for the subject change ...but ...Is anyone currently using>>>Epocrates? If so could you tell me pros and cons about it?>>>>>>>>>>>

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Tungsten T3 has 64 MB RAM

Treo 650 = 23 MB

Epocrates requires about 9.5 MB + 20K per health plan formulary. Plus, if you run a device with Non Volatile File System (NVFS) as are the Tungsten T5, Treo 650, and LifeDrive, the amount of memory required is 33% larger (about 12 MB).

That's more than half Treo's internal RAM for a single program.

It's a great program but I stand by my 'bloatware' comment.

Brett

Re: Re: re PPd (epocrates)> Another weakness for Epocrates is that it is Bloatware....huge memory> footprint and I don't believe it will run from an expansion card. If you> have limited RAM (like my Treo) that is a big drawback.>> As for the strength of the prescribing information, I'll leave that up to> you as that's not my union.>> Brett Kinsler, DC>> ...... Original Message .......> On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 17:49:47 -0400 "L. Gordon "> <gmooreidealhealthnetwork> wrote:>>Inexpensive access to very good prescribing information on a>>handheld. Use it daily. High value, low cost, high convenience.>>>>Weakness: need to go to online resource like Micromedex to get into>>complicated issues like "Which bugs does this ABX cover?" Does not>>have tables (like in Drug Facts and Comparisons) for equating>>narcotic analgesics, comparing oral contraceptive formulation.>>>>Overall assessment: slam dunk. Get it.>>Gorodn>>At 03:25 PM 7/17/2006, you wrote:>>>>>Sorry for the subject change ...but ...Is anyone currently using>>>Epocrates? If so could you tell me pros and cons about it?>>>>>>>>>>>

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In my old office, I loved and depended on epocrates on my pda as I ran

from room to room. (Gordon - it does have some lists with narcotic

equivalent doses and preferred antibiotic for certain bugs... not sure

which version I'd gotten though).

But now that I'm in my new office with my desk area being my exam room

too, I rarely touch my pda. My computer is always within my reach. I do

access basic info thru online epocrates (and UpToDate) but it's just as

easy to lean two feet and get basic info for simple prescriptions from the

monthly prescribing reference guide sent to me free each month.

But I love epocrates drug interaction system. UptoDate has that too I

believe, but I've gotten used to the epocrates version for a few years.

Overall, I agree with the prior messages... epocrates is a good resource.

How you use it (pda vs. online) will depend on your personal preference

and/or office setup.

Tim

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>

> Tungsten T3 has 64 MB RAM

>

> Treo 650 = 23 MB

>

> Epocrates requires about 9.5 MB + 20K per health plan formulary. Plus,

> if you run a device with Non Volatile File System (NVFS) as are the

> Tungsten T5, Treo 650, and LifeDrive, the amount of memory required is

> 33% larger (about 12 MB).

>

> That's more than half Treo's internal RAM for a single program.

>

> It's a great program but I stand by my 'bloatware' comment.

>

> Brett

>

>

>

> Re: Re: re PPd (epocrates)

>

> > Another weakness for Epocrates is that it is Bloatware....huge

> memory footprint and I don't believe it will run from an expansion

> card. If you have limited RAM (like my Treo) that is a big drawback.

> >

> > As for the strength of the prescribing information, I'll leave that

> up to you as that's not my union.

> >

> > Brett Kinsler, DC

> >

> > ...... Original Message .......

> > On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 17:49:47 -0400 " L. Gordon "

> > wrote:

> >>Inexpensive access to very good prescribing information on a

> >>handheld. Use it daily. High value, low cost, high convenience.

> >>

> >>Weakness: need to go to online resource like Micromedex to get into

> complicated issues like " Which bugs does this ABX cover? " Does not

> have tables (like in Drug Facts and Comparisons) for equating

> >>narcotic analgesics, comparing oral contraceptive formulation.

> >>

> >>Overall assessment: slam dunk. Get it.

> >>Gorodn

> >>At 03:25 PM 7/17/2006, you wrote:

> >>

> >>>Sorry for the subject change ...but ...Is anyone currently using

> Epocrates? If so could you tell me pros and cons about it?

> >>>

> >>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

In my old office, I loved and depended on epocrates on my pda as I ran

from room to room. (Gordon - it does have some lists with narcotic

equivalent doses and preferred antibiotic for certain bugs... not sure

which version I'd gotten though).

But now that I'm in my new office with my desk area being my exam room

too, I rarely touch my pda. My computer is always within my reach. I do

access basic info thru online epocrates (and UpToDate) but it's just as

easy to lean two feet and get basic info for simple prescriptions from the

monthly prescribing reference guide sent to me free each month.

But I love epocrates drug interaction system. UptoDate has that too I

believe, but I've gotten used to the epocrates version for a few years.

Overall, I agree with the prior messages... epocrates is a good resource.

How you use it (pda vs. online) will depend on your personal preference

and/or office setup.

Tim

> -

>

> Tungsten T3 has 64 MB RAM

>

> Treo 650 = 23 MB

>

> Epocrates requires about 9.5 MB + 20K per health plan formulary. Plus,

> if you run a device with Non Volatile File System (NVFS) as are the

> Tungsten T5, Treo 650, and LifeDrive, the amount of memory required is

> 33% larger (about 12 MB).

>

> That's more than half Treo's internal RAM for a single program.

>

> It's a great program but I stand by my 'bloatware' comment.

>

> Brett

>

>

>

> Re: Re: re PPd (epocrates)

>

> > Another weakness for Epocrates is that it is Bloatware....huge

> memory footprint and I don't believe it will run from an expansion

> card. If you have limited RAM (like my Treo) that is a big drawback.

> >

> > As for the strength of the prescribing information, I'll leave that

> up to you as that's not my union.

> >

> > Brett Kinsler, DC

> >

> > ...... Original Message .......

> > On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 17:49:47 -0400 " L. Gordon "

> > wrote:

> >>Inexpensive access to very good prescribing information on a

> >>handheld. Use it daily. High value, low cost, high convenience.

> >>

> >>Weakness: need to go to online resource like Micromedex to get into

> complicated issues like " Which bugs does this ABX cover? " Does not

> have tables (like in Drug Facts and Comparisons) for equating

> >>narcotic analgesics, comparing oral contraceptive formulation.

> >>

> >>Overall assessment: slam dunk. Get it.

> >>Gorodn

> >>At 03:25 PM 7/17/2006, you wrote:

> >>

> >>>Sorry for the subject change ...but ...Is anyone currently using

> Epocrates? If so could you tell me pros and cons about it?

> >>>

> >>

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

64 MB RAM is starting to

become the lower end of acceptable memory for a PDA. Newer ones have at least

128 MB right out of the box. I have not even came close to using all pf my RAM

on my new Dell Axim x51v.

Re:

Re: re PPd (epocrates)

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Tungsten T3 has 64 MB RAM

Treo 650 = 23 MB

Epocrates requires about 9.5 MB +

20K per health plan formulary. Plus, if you run a device with Non

Volatile File System (NVFS) as are the Tungsten T5, Treo 650, and LifeDrive,

the amount of memory required is 33% larger (about 12 MB).

That's more than half Treo's

internal RAM for a single program.

It's a great program but I stand by

my 'bloatware' comment.

Brett

Re: Re: re PPd (epocrates)

> Another weakness for Epocrates is that it is Bloatware....huge memory

> footprint and I don't believe it will run from an expansion card. If you

> have limited RAM (like my Treo) that is a big drawback.

>

> As for the strength of the prescribing information, I'll leave that up to

> you as that's not my union.

>

> Brett Kinsler, DC

>

> ...... Original Message .......

> On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 17:49:47 -0400 " L. Gordon "

> <gmooreidealhealthnetwork>

wrote:

>>Inexpensive access to very good prescribing information on a

>>handheld. Use it daily. High value, low cost, high convenience.

>>

>>Weakness: need to go to online resource like Micromedex to get into

>>complicated issues like " Which bugs does this ABX cover? "

Does not

>>have tables (like in Drug Facts and Comparisons) for equating

>>narcotic analgesics, comparing oral contraceptive formulation.

>>

>>Overall assessment: slam dunk. Get it.

>>Gorodn

>>At 03:25 PM 7/17/2006, you wrote:

>>

>>>Sorry for the subject change ...but ...Is anyone currently using

>>>Epocrates? If so could you tell me pros and cons about it?

>>>

>>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

64 MB RAM is starting to

become the lower end of acceptable memory for a PDA. Newer ones have at least

128 MB right out of the box. I have not even came close to using all pf my RAM

on my new Dell Axim x51v.

Re:

Re: re PPd (epocrates)

-

Tungsten T3 has 64 MB RAM

Treo 650 = 23 MB

Epocrates requires about 9.5 MB +

20K per health plan formulary. Plus, if you run a device with Non

Volatile File System (NVFS) as are the Tungsten T5, Treo 650, and LifeDrive,

the amount of memory required is 33% larger (about 12 MB).

That's more than half Treo's

internal RAM for a single program.

It's a great program but I stand by

my 'bloatware' comment.

Brett

Re: Re: re PPd (epocrates)

> Another weakness for Epocrates is that it is Bloatware....huge memory

> footprint and I don't believe it will run from an expansion card. If you

> have limited RAM (like my Treo) that is a big drawback.

>

> As for the strength of the prescribing information, I'll leave that up to

> you as that's not my union.

>

> Brett Kinsler, DC

>

> ...... Original Message .......

> On Mon, 17 Jul 2006 17:49:47 -0400 " L. Gordon "

> <gmooreidealhealthnetwork>

wrote:

>>Inexpensive access to very good prescribing information on a

>>handheld. Use it daily. High value, low cost, high convenience.

>>

>>Weakness: need to go to online resource like Micromedex to get into

>>complicated issues like " Which bugs does this ABX cover? "

Does not

>>have tables (like in Drug Facts and Comparisons) for equating

>>narcotic analgesics, comparing oral contraceptive formulation.

>>

>>Overall assessment: slam dunk. Get it.

>>Gorodn

>>At 03:25 PM 7/17/2006, you wrote:

>>

>>>Sorry for the subject change ...but ...Is anyone currently using

>>>Epocrates? If so could you tell me pros and cons about it?

>>>

>>

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