Guest guest Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 wow ! sounds awesome! what is the school? was it taught in english? what books were used if any? it is amazing how the details of such an experience get ingrained in your mind and emotions and a smell etc can just take you back! did you find the style very different to western mb? when I did a retreat here with Chuya and chiaki hashimoto the cooking style was similar but still had a different approach. Same at the KI in Holland. Very strong. I think yahoo is having some problems with messages right now... leslieanneashburn wrote: , And several of mine have never come through. I just typed out a message for you that got lost! I lived in Kobe, Japan for 3 years teaching English. It was an interesting learning experience as a teacher and personally being in a new culture. My memory is filled with all the sights, smells, tastes, etc. What an unusual country! After my first year in Japan, I met my teachers and attended their macrobiotic school. I went almost every week to Osaka, and sometimes every day during the week for intensive lectures and cooking classes. It made my whole time there very worthwhile, because we had so many cool truly Japanese cultural excursions. There was only one other Western woman studying there, one of my dearest friends from college. I would recommend traveling there very heartily! Aloha, > > Why do my posts take so long to come through sometimes? This was written at > 8:07 on Tuesday? Odd. > > Test: 5/25/06 7:44 > > Re: sugar > > > > > > Well, I didn't believe it till one time we > > were at this sanctuary type place and in the gift shop Marlie was > > playing with stuff and started to play with ladybug foil covered > > chocolates. I was looking at some junk and all of a sudden she > > screamed. I looked over at her and she was spitting out a piece of > > the stuff. Someone had broken open a few and so she stuck a bit in > > her mouth. I'm now a believer sugar is the devil. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 Hello Ilanit, It's called Macrobi Garden (genmai.ne.jp, if you know Japanese). They were exclusively a Japanese-speaking school until I showed up. Before I arrived, they had just been thinking " We need to be more international " . There were only books in Japanese, so I took a lot of notes. What they gave me was based on what is used at the KI in Boston, but perhaps not as detailed in printed material. In lectures and cooking classes, I learned heaps upon heaps of things. When I joined a regular cooking class, seminar, or excursion with everyone (everyone meaning Japanese students, except for me) they taught in Japanese, but off to the side they would translate for me. I learned a lot of food and cooking words, you can be sure! However, when I did Levels 1, 2, and 3, they taught that to my friend and I in English. I have almost no experience with Western macrobiotics directly. What is being created here in HI is what I am passing down from my teachers, so I'm teaching their style. Their style is very much focusing on spirituality, mainly what they termed samurai macrobiotics, which means 'duty to the lord' (in this case, the community and my teachers. I'm in service to the people. It is up to me to repay my debt to my teachers by becoming a very strong teacher myself. It's a mindset that " I am a macrobiotic teacher " and with that, it means that I have certain responsibilities. We also learned a lot about yin, yang, and destiny -- or how you can change or improve your destiny, including the past. From what I can see in America, there is less focus on aspects such as that, but perhaps that is only because I haven't been in a Western macrobiotic community. The other difference I see is that Western macrobiotic people take supplements, eat more processed foods, and have bigger portions. Maybe they don't understand yin and yang as well as people in Japan, or maybe they just don't study it as much as people in Japan? It's only one view -- not an absolute truth -- just how I am able to see things right now, at this moment, with my present consciousness! If anyone ever goes to Japan and wants to know good restaurants, please ask. The Naka's also love to receive international visitors, and treat them VERY well. Have a great day! > > > > > > Why do my posts take so long to come through sometimes? This was > > written at > > > 8:07 on Tuesday? Odd. > > > > > > Test: 5/25/06 7:44 > > > > > > Re: sugar > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, I didn't believe it till one time we > > > > were at this sanctuary type place and in the gift shop Marlie was > > > > playing with stuff and started to play with ladybug foil covered > > > > chocolates. I was looking at some junk and all of a sudden she > > > > screamed. I looked over at her and she was spitting out a piece > > of > > > > the stuff. Someone had broken open a few and so she stuck a bit > > in > > > > her mouth. I'm now a believer sugar is the devil. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 Hello Ilanit, It's called Macrobi Garden (genmai.ne.jp, if you know Japanese). They were exclusively a Japanese-speaking school until I showed up. Before I arrived, they had just been thinking " We need to be more international " . There were only books in Japanese, so I took a lot of notes. What they gave me was based on what is used at the KI in Boston, but perhaps not as detailed in printed material. In lectures and cooking classes, I learned heaps upon heaps of things. When I joined a regular cooking class, seminar, or excursion with everyone (everyone meaning Japanese students, except for me) they taught in Japanese, but off to the side they would translate for me. I learned a lot of food and cooking words, you can be sure! However, when I did Levels 1, 2, and 3, they taught that to my friend and I in English. I have almost no experience with Western macrobiotics directly. What is being created here in HI is what I am passing down from my teachers, so I'm teaching their style. Their style is very much focusing on spirituality, mainly what they termed samurai macrobiotics, which means 'duty to the lord' (in this case, the community and my teachers. I'm in service to the people. It is up to me to repay my debt to my teachers by becoming a very strong teacher myself. It's a mindset that " I am a macrobiotic teacher " and with that, it means that I have certain responsibilities. We also learned a lot about yin, yang, and destiny -- or how you can change or improve your destiny, including the past. From what I can see in America, there is less focus on aspects such as that, but perhaps that is only because I haven't been in a Western macrobiotic community. The other difference I see is that Western macrobiotic people take supplements, eat more processed foods, and have bigger portions. Maybe they don't understand yin and yang as well as people in Japan, or maybe they just don't study it as much as people in Japan? It's only one view -- not an absolute truth -- just how I am able to see things right now, at this moment, with my present consciousness! If anyone ever goes to Japan and wants to know good restaurants, please ask. The Naka's also love to receive international visitors, and treat them VERY well. Have a great day! > > > > > > Why do my posts take so long to come through sometimes? This was > > written at > > > 8:07 on Tuesday? Odd. > > > > > > Test: 5/25/06 7:44 > > > > > > Re: sugar > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, I didn't believe it till one time we > > > > were at this sanctuary type place and in the gift shop Marlie was > > > > playing with stuff and started to play with ladybug foil covered > > > > chocolates. I was looking at some junk and all of a sudden she > > > > screamed. I looked over at her and she was spitting out a piece > > of > > > > the stuff. Someone had broken open a few and so she stuck a bit > > in > > > > her mouth. I'm now a believer sugar is the devil. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 25, 2006 Report Share Posted May 25, 2006 Hello Ilanit, It's called Macrobi Garden (genmai.ne.jp, if you know Japanese). They were exclusively a Japanese-speaking school until I showed up. Before I arrived, they had just been thinking " We need to be more international " . There were only books in Japanese, so I took a lot of notes. What they gave me was based on what is used at the KI in Boston, but perhaps not as detailed in printed material. In lectures and cooking classes, I learned heaps upon heaps of things. When I joined a regular cooking class, seminar, or excursion with everyone (everyone meaning Japanese students, except for me) they taught in Japanese, but off to the side they would translate for me. I learned a lot of food and cooking words, you can be sure! However, when I did Levels 1, 2, and 3, they taught that to my friend and I in English. I have almost no experience with Western macrobiotics directly. What is being created here in HI is what I am passing down from my teachers, so I'm teaching their style. Their style is very much focusing on spirituality, mainly what they termed samurai macrobiotics, which means 'duty to the lord' (in this case, the community and my teachers. I'm in service to the people. It is up to me to repay my debt to my teachers by becoming a very strong teacher myself. It's a mindset that " I am a macrobiotic teacher " and with that, it means that I have certain responsibilities. We also learned a lot about yin, yang, and destiny -- or how you can change or improve your destiny, including the past. From what I can see in America, there is less focus on aspects such as that, but perhaps that is only because I haven't been in a Western macrobiotic community. The other difference I see is that Western macrobiotic people take supplements, eat more processed foods, and have bigger portions. Maybe they don't understand yin and yang as well as people in Japan, or maybe they just don't study it as much as people in Japan? It's only one view -- not an absolute truth -- just how I am able to see things right now, at this moment, with my present consciousness! If anyone ever goes to Japan and wants to know good restaurants, please ask. The Naka's also love to receive international visitors, and treat them VERY well. Have a great day! > > > > > > Why do my posts take so long to come through sometimes? This was > > written at > > > 8:07 on Tuesday? Odd. > > > > > > Test: 5/25/06 7:44 > > > > > > Re: sugar > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, I didn't believe it till one time we > > > > were at this sanctuary type place and in the gift shop Marlie was > > > > playing with stuff and started to play with ladybug foil covered > > > > chocolates. I was looking at some junk and all of a sudden she > > > > screamed. I looked over at her and she was spitting out a piece > > of > > > > the stuff. Someone had broken open a few and so she stuck a bit > > in > > > > her mouth. I'm now a believer sugar is the devil. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 Wow. What a wonderful experience. I think their approach to macrobiotics sounds perfect. There is more to macrobiotics than food, but I think a lot of us (read: me) get caught up in the food aspect and don't move on or apply the principals in other areas of life. Re: sugar > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, I didn't believe it till one time we > > > > were at this sanctuary type place and in the gift shop Marlie was > > > > playing with stuff and started to play with ladybug foil covered > > > > chocolates. I was looking at some junk and all of a sudden she > > > > screamed. I looked over at her and she was spitting out a piece > > of > > > > the stuff. Someone had broken open a few and so she stuck a bit > > in > > > > her mouth. I'm now a believer sugar is the devil. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 Wow. What a wonderful experience. I think their approach to macrobiotics sounds perfect. There is more to macrobiotics than food, but I think a lot of us (read: me) get caught up in the food aspect and don't move on or apply the principals in other areas of life. Re: sugar > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, I didn't believe it till one time we > > > > were at this sanctuary type place and in the gift shop Marlie was > > > > playing with stuff and started to play with ladybug foil covered > > > > chocolates. I was looking at some junk and all of a sudden she > > > > screamed. I looked over at her and she was spitting out a piece > > of > > > > the stuff. Someone had broken open a few and so she stuck a bit > > in > > > > her mouth. I'm now a believer sugar is the devil. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 Wow. What a wonderful experience. I think their approach to macrobiotics sounds perfect. There is more to macrobiotics than food, but I think a lot of us (read: me) get caught up in the food aspect and don't move on or apply the principals in other areas of life. Re: sugar > > > > > > > > > > > > Well, I didn't believe it till one time we > > > > were at this sanctuary type place and in the gift shop Marlie was > > > > playing with stuff and started to play with ladybug foil covered > > > > chocolates. I was looking at some junk and all of a sudden she > > > > screamed. I looked over at her and she was spitting out a piece > > of > > > > the stuff. Someone had broken open a few and so she stuck a bit > > in > > > > her mouth. I'm now a believer sugar is the devil. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 leslieanneashburn wrote: Hello Ilanit, It's called Macrobi Garden (genmai.ne.jp, if you know Japanese). I clicked on it but that was all - pure japanese and although I can say arigato, konichiwa, gobo, genmai and mugi that didn't help much! They were exclusively a Japanese-speaking school until I showed up. Before I arrived, they had just been thinking "We need to be more international". that is sooo cool! There were only books in Japanese, so I took a lot of notes. What they gave me was based on what is used at the KI in Boston, but perhaps not as detailed in printed material. In lectures and cooking classes, I learned heaps upon heaps of things. you should publish your notes - macrobiotics from the heart of japan... When I joined a regular cooking class, seminar, or excursion with everyone (everyone meaning Japanese students, except for me) they taught in Japanese, but off to the side they would translate for me. wow - that was brave of you. mucht have been intense - it is one thing to do a course in your own language, another to do it in a language you understand (like I did some of the time in Holland) and quite another to do one in a language that is completely different and that you dont know! I learned a lot of food and cooking words, you can be sure! yes they seem to come first - even though I was born in holland knew dutch I had no idea what millet, lentils etc were in dutch! However, when I did Levels 1, 2, and 3, they taught that to my friend and I in English. I have almost no experience with Western macrobiotics directly. in person mine has only been brief. And it was quite varied from holland where it was stronger than he brief expeience in the US. In some parts at least. Most has been distance learning. What is being created here in HI is what I am passing down from my teachers, so I'm teaching their style. Their style is very much focusing on spirituality, mainly what they termed samurai macrobiotics, now there is a good book title!!! which means 'duty to the lord' (in this case, the community and my teachers. I'm in service to the people. It is up to me to repay my debt to my teachers by becoming a very strong teacher myself. It's a mindset that "I am a macrobiotic teacher" and with that, it means that I have certain responsibilities. We also learned a lot about yin, yang, and destiny -- or how you can change or improve your destiny, including the past. >From what I can see in America, there is less focus on aspects such as that, but perhaps that is only because I haven't been in a Western macrobiotic community. The other difference I see is that Western macrobiotic people take supplements, eat more processed foods, and have bigger portions. Maybe they don't understand yin and yang as well as people in Japan, or maybe they just don't study it as much as people in Japan? I think they do study at least in some places - a lot. I think that people in the west in the current generation area lot weaker than in the orient in general. They are saying this is the first generation not predicted to outlive their parents. the further the generations are from good old peasant stock (!) the more in troubel their/ourt health seems to be. -- Ilanit Tof - Signature Ilanit Ms Ilanit Tof B.A. (Psychophysiology/Psychology) Advanced Diploma Healing with Wholefoods PhD Holistic Nutrition (candidate) Little Tree Oriental Healing Arts Helping you grow to new heights of wellbeing with Oriental Traditions and Modern Nutrition ilanit@... www.littletree.com.au Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 leslieanneashburn wrote: Hello Ilanit, It's called Macrobi Garden (genmai.ne.jp, if you know Japanese). I clicked on it but that was all - pure japanese and although I can say arigato, konichiwa, gobo, genmai and mugi that didn't help much! They were exclusively a Japanese-speaking school until I showed up. Before I arrived, they had just been thinking "We need to be more international". that is sooo cool! There were only books in Japanese, so I took a lot of notes. What they gave me was based on what is used at the KI in Boston, but perhaps not as detailed in printed material. In lectures and cooking classes, I learned heaps upon heaps of things. you should publish your notes - macrobiotics from the heart of japan... When I joined a regular cooking class, seminar, or excursion with everyone (everyone meaning Japanese students, except for me) they taught in Japanese, but off to the side they would translate for me. wow - that was brave of you. mucht have been intense - it is one thing to do a course in your own language, another to do it in a language you understand (like I did some of the time in Holland) and quite another to do one in a language that is completely different and that you dont know! I learned a lot of food and cooking words, you can be sure! yes they seem to come first - even though I was born in holland knew dutch I had no idea what millet, lentils etc were in dutch! However, when I did Levels 1, 2, and 3, they taught that to my friend and I in English. I have almost no experience with Western macrobiotics directly. in person mine has only been brief. And it was quite varied from holland where it was stronger than he brief expeience in the US. In some parts at least. Most has been distance learning. What is being created here in HI is what I am passing down from my teachers, so I'm teaching their style. Their style is very much focusing on spirituality, mainly what they termed samurai macrobiotics, now there is a good book title!!! which means 'duty to the lord' (in this case, the community and my teachers. I'm in service to the people. It is up to me to repay my debt to my teachers by becoming a very strong teacher myself. It's a mindset that "I am a macrobiotic teacher" and with that, it means that I have certain responsibilities. We also learned a lot about yin, yang, and destiny -- or how you can change or improve your destiny, including the past. >From what I can see in America, there is less focus on aspects such as that, but perhaps that is only because I haven't been in a Western macrobiotic community. The other difference I see is that Western macrobiotic people take supplements, eat more processed foods, and have bigger portions. Maybe they don't understand yin and yang as well as people in Japan, or maybe they just don't study it as much as people in Japan? I think they do study at least in some places - a lot. I think that people in the west in the current generation area lot weaker than in the orient in general. They are saying this is the first generation not predicted to outlive their parents. the further the generations are from good old peasant stock (!) the more in troubel their/ourt health seems to be. -- Ilanit Tof - Signature Ilanit Ms Ilanit Tof B.A. (Psychophysiology/Psychology) Advanced Diploma Healing with Wholefoods PhD Holistic Nutrition (candidate) Little Tree Oriental Healing Arts Helping you grow to new heights of wellbeing with Oriental Traditions and Modern Nutrition ilanit@... www.littletree.com.au Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 28, 2006 Report Share Posted May 28, 2006 leslieanneashburn wrote: Hello Ilanit, It's called Macrobi Garden (genmai.ne.jp, if you know Japanese). I clicked on it but that was all - pure japanese and although I can say arigato, konichiwa, gobo, genmai and mugi that didn't help much! They were exclusively a Japanese-speaking school until I showed up. Before I arrived, they had just been thinking "We need to be more international". that is sooo cool! There were only books in Japanese, so I took a lot of notes. What they gave me was based on what is used at the KI in Boston, but perhaps not as detailed in printed material. In lectures and cooking classes, I learned heaps upon heaps of things. you should publish your notes - macrobiotics from the heart of japan... When I joined a regular cooking class, seminar, or excursion with everyone (everyone meaning Japanese students, except for me) they taught in Japanese, but off to the side they would translate for me. wow - that was brave of you. mucht have been intense - it is one thing to do a course in your own language, another to do it in a language you understand (like I did some of the time in Holland) and quite another to do one in a language that is completely different and that you dont know! I learned a lot of food and cooking words, you can be sure! yes they seem to come first - even though I was born in holland knew dutch I had no idea what millet, lentils etc were in dutch! However, when I did Levels 1, 2, and 3, they taught that to my friend and I in English. I have almost no experience with Western macrobiotics directly. in person mine has only been brief. And it was quite varied from holland where it was stronger than he brief expeience in the US. In some parts at least. Most has been distance learning. What is being created here in HI is what I am passing down from my teachers, so I'm teaching their style. Their style is very much focusing on spirituality, mainly what they termed samurai macrobiotics, now there is a good book title!!! which means 'duty to the lord' (in this case, the community and my teachers. I'm in service to the people. It is up to me to repay my debt to my teachers by becoming a very strong teacher myself. It's a mindset that "I am a macrobiotic teacher" and with that, it means that I have certain responsibilities. We also learned a lot about yin, yang, and destiny -- or how you can change or improve your destiny, including the past. >From what I can see in America, there is less focus on aspects such as that, but perhaps that is only because I haven't been in a Western macrobiotic community. The other difference I see is that Western macrobiotic people take supplements, eat more processed foods, and have bigger portions. Maybe they don't understand yin and yang as well as people in Japan, or maybe they just don't study it as much as people in Japan? I think they do study at least in some places - a lot. I think that people in the west in the current generation area lot weaker than in the orient in general. They are saying this is the first generation not predicted to outlive their parents. the further the generations are from good old peasant stock (!) the more in troubel their/ourt health seems to be. -- Ilanit Tof - Signature Ilanit Ms Ilanit Tof B.A. (Psychophysiology/Psychology) Advanced Diploma Healing with Wholefoods PhD Holistic Nutrition (candidate) Little Tree Oriental Healing Arts Helping you grow to new heights of wellbeing with Oriental Traditions and Modern Nutrition ilanit@... www.littletree.com.au Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 29, 2006 Report Share Posted May 29, 2006 Sounds like fun! I've yet to hit the Orient! " ...become the change you envision." Lemoine From: VeganMacrobiotics [mailto:VeganMacrobiotics ] On Behalf Of leslieanneashburnSent: May 29, 2006 8:03 PMTo: VeganMacrobiotics Subject: Re: japan I wish their site was in English too. She posts a mean recipe collection.My friend and I were thinking about that exact title for a book, but didn't know how much interest it would generate. Wish I would have taken more notes. Maybe we could piece things together between the two of us?Yes, living in Japan took oodles of bravery. It was either suffer in isolation and fear (which happened sometimes), or just GET OUT THERE AND LIVE! It was fun to travel around by myself (Japan, Thailand, Singapore, China, Hong Kong, Spain) and it gave me new-found confidence in myself.I see in the new newsletter from the Euro KI they added spiritual topics. That's the exact type of thing we were learning. Fun! Stimulating!L> > > Hello Ilanit,> >> > It's called Macrobi Garden (genmai.ne.jp, if you know Japanese). > > I clicked on it but that was all - pure japanese> > and although I can say arigato, konichiwa, gobo, genmai and mugi that > didn't help much!> > > They were exclusively a Japanese-speaking school until I showed up. > > Before I arrived, they had just been thinking "We need to be more> > international".> > > that is sooo cool!> > > There were only books in Japanese, so I took a lot> > of notes. What they gave me was based on what is used at the KI in> > Boston, but perhaps not as detailed in printed material. In lectures> > and cooking classes, I learned heaps upon heaps of things.> > > you should publish your notes - macrobiotics from the heart of japan...> > >> > When I joined a regular cooking class, seminar, or excursion with> > everyone (everyone meaning Japanese students, except for me) they> > taught in Japanese, but off to the side they would translate for me.> > > wow - that was brave of you. mucht have been intense - it is one thing > to do a course in your own language, another to do it in a language you > understand (like I did some of the time in Holland) and quite another to > do one in a language that is completely different and that you dont know!> > > I learned a lot of food and cooking words, you can be sure! > > yes they seem to come first - even though I was born in holland knew > dutch I had no idea what millet, lentils etc were in dutch!> > > However,> > when I did Levels 1, 2, and 3, they taught that to my friend and I in> > English.> >> > I have almost no experience with Western macrobiotics directly.> > in person mine has only been brief. And it was quite varied from holland > where it was stronger than he brief expeience in the US. In some parts > at least. Most has been distance learning.> > > What> > is being created here in HI is what I am passing down from my> > teachers, so I'm teaching their style. Their style is very much> > focusing on spirituality, mainly what they termed samurai> > macrobiotics, > > > now there is a good book title!!!> > > which means 'duty to the lord' (in this case, the> > community and my teachers. I'm in service to the people. It is up to> > me to repay my debt to my teachers by becoming a very strong teacher> > myself. It's a mindset that "I am a macrobiotic teacher" and with> > that, it means that I have certain responsibilities. We also learned> > a lot about yin, yang, and destiny -- or how you can change or> > improve your destiny, including the past. > >> > >From what I can see in America, there is less focus on aspects such> > as that, but perhaps that is only because I haven't been in a Western> > macrobiotic community. The other difference I see is that Western> > macrobiotic people take supplements, eat more processed foods, and> > have bigger portions. Maybe they don't understand yin and yang as> > well as people in Japan, or maybe they just don't study it as much as> > people in Japan?> > > I think they do study at least in some places - a lot.> > I think that people in the west in the current generation area lot > weaker than in the orient in general. They are saying this is the first > generation not predicted to outlive their parents. the further the > generations are from good old peasant stock (!) the more in troubel > their/ourt health seems to be.> > > >> > -- > > Ilanit> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------> > Little Tree Pty Limited, Melbourne, Australia (Little Tree). ® > registered trademark, © copyright 2003. All rights reserved. This email > message and attachments may contain information that is confidential to > Little Tree. If you are not the intended recipient you cannot use, > distribute, forward or copy the message or attachments. In such a case, > please notify the sender by return email and erase all copies of the > message and attachments. The sender of this email message does not allow > the recipient to forward this email message or attachments in whole or > in part by means of the internet. 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Guest guest Posted May 29, 2006 Report Share Posted May 29, 2006 Sounds like fun! I've yet to hit the Orient! " ...become the change you envision." Lemoine From: VeganMacrobiotics [mailto:VeganMacrobiotics ] On Behalf Of leslieanneashburnSent: May 29, 2006 8:03 PMTo: VeganMacrobiotics Subject: Re: japan I wish their site was in English too. She posts a mean recipe collection.My friend and I were thinking about that exact title for a book, but didn't know how much interest it would generate. Wish I would have taken more notes. Maybe we could piece things together between the two of us?Yes, living in Japan took oodles of bravery. It was either suffer in isolation and fear (which happened sometimes), or just GET OUT THERE AND LIVE! It was fun to travel around by myself (Japan, Thailand, Singapore, China, Hong Kong, Spain) and it gave me new-found confidence in myself.I see in the new newsletter from the Euro KI they added spiritual topics. That's the exact type of thing we were learning. Fun! Stimulating!L> > > Hello Ilanit,> >> > It's called Macrobi Garden (genmai.ne.jp, if you know Japanese). > > I clicked on it but that was all - pure japanese> > and although I can say arigato, konichiwa, gobo, genmai and mugi that > didn't help much!> > > They were exclusively a Japanese-speaking school until I showed up. > > Before I arrived, they had just been thinking "We need to be more> > international".> > > that is sooo cool!> > > There were only books in Japanese, so I took a lot> > of notes. What they gave me was based on what is used at the KI in> > Boston, but perhaps not as detailed in printed material. In lectures> > and cooking classes, I learned heaps upon heaps of things.> > > you should publish your notes - macrobiotics from the heart of japan...> > >> > When I joined a regular cooking class, seminar, or excursion with> > everyone (everyone meaning Japanese students, except for me) they> > taught in Japanese, but off to the side they would translate for me.> > > wow - that was brave of you. mucht have been intense - it is one thing > to do a course in your own language, another to do it in a language you > understand (like I did some of the time in Holland) and quite another to > do one in a language that is completely different and that you dont know!> > > I learned a lot of food and cooking words, you can be sure! > > yes they seem to come first - even though I was born in holland knew > dutch I had no idea what millet, lentils etc were in dutch!> > > However,> > when I did Levels 1, 2, and 3, they taught that to my friend and I in> > English.> >> > I have almost no experience with Western macrobiotics directly.> > in person mine has only been brief. And it was quite varied from holland > where it was stronger than he brief expeience in the US. In some parts > at least. Most has been distance learning.> > > What> > is being created here in HI is what I am passing down from my> > teachers, so I'm teaching their style. Their style is very much> > focusing on spirituality, mainly what they termed samurai> > macrobiotics, > > > now there is a good book title!!!> > > which means 'duty to the lord' (in this case, the> > community and my teachers. I'm in service to the people. It is up to> > me to repay my debt to my teachers by becoming a very strong teacher> > myself. It's a mindset that "I am a macrobiotic teacher" and with> > that, it means that I have certain responsibilities. We also learned> > a lot about yin, yang, and destiny -- or how you can change or> > improve your destiny, including the past. > >> > >From what I can see in America, there is less focus on aspects such> > as that, but perhaps that is only because I haven't been in a Western> > macrobiotic community. The other difference I see is that Western> > macrobiotic people take supplements, eat more processed foods, and> > have bigger portions. Maybe they don't understand yin and yang as> > well as people in Japan, or maybe they just don't study it as much as> > people in Japan?> > > I think they do study at least in some places - a lot.> > I think that people in the west in the current generation area lot > weaker than in the orient in general. They are saying this is the first > generation not predicted to outlive their parents. the further the > generations are from good old peasant stock (!) the more in troubel > their/ourt health seems to be.> > > >> > -- > > Ilanit> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------> > Little Tree Pty Limited, Melbourne, Australia (Little Tree). ® > registered trademark, © copyright 2003. All rights reserved. This email > message and attachments may contain information that is confidential to > Little Tree. If you are not the intended recipient you cannot use, > distribute, forward or copy the message or attachments. In such a case, > please notify the sender by return email and erase all copies of the > message and attachments. The sender of this email message does not allow > the recipient to forward this email message or attachments in whole or > in part by means of the internet. 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Guest guest Posted May 29, 2006 Report Share Posted May 29, 2006 Sounds like fun! I've yet to hit the Orient! " ...become the change you envision." Lemoine From: VeganMacrobiotics [mailto:VeganMacrobiotics ] On Behalf Of leslieanneashburnSent: May 29, 2006 8:03 PMTo: VeganMacrobiotics Subject: Re: japan I wish their site was in English too. She posts a mean recipe collection.My friend and I were thinking about that exact title for a book, but didn't know how much interest it would generate. Wish I would have taken more notes. Maybe we could piece things together between the two of us?Yes, living in Japan took oodles of bravery. It was either suffer in isolation and fear (which happened sometimes), or just GET OUT THERE AND LIVE! It was fun to travel around by myself (Japan, Thailand, Singapore, China, Hong Kong, Spain) and it gave me new-found confidence in myself.I see in the new newsletter from the Euro KI they added spiritual topics. That's the exact type of thing we were learning. Fun! Stimulating!L> > > Hello Ilanit,> >> > It's called Macrobi Garden (genmai.ne.jp, if you know Japanese). > > I clicked on it but that was all - pure japanese> > and although I can say arigato, konichiwa, gobo, genmai and mugi that > didn't help much!> > > They were exclusively a Japanese-speaking school until I showed up. > > Before I arrived, they had just been thinking "We need to be more> > international".> > > that is sooo cool!> > > There were only books in Japanese, so I took a lot> > of notes. What they gave me was based on what is used at the KI in> > Boston, but perhaps not as detailed in printed material. In lectures> > and cooking classes, I learned heaps upon heaps of things.> > > you should publish your notes - macrobiotics from the heart of japan...> > >> > When I joined a regular cooking class, seminar, or excursion with> > everyone (everyone meaning Japanese students, except for me) they> > taught in Japanese, but off to the side they would translate for me.> > > wow - that was brave of you. mucht have been intense - it is one thing > to do a course in your own language, another to do it in a language you > understand (like I did some of the time in Holland) and quite another to > do one in a language that is completely different and that you dont know!> > > I learned a lot of food and cooking words, you can be sure! > > yes they seem to come first - even though I was born in holland knew > dutch I had no idea what millet, lentils etc were in dutch!> > > However,> > when I did Levels 1, 2, and 3, they taught that to my friend and I in> > English.> >> > I have almost no experience with Western macrobiotics directly.> > in person mine has only been brief. And it was quite varied from holland > where it was stronger than he brief expeience in the US. In some parts > at least. Most has been distance learning.> > > What> > is being created here in HI is what I am passing down from my> > teachers, so I'm teaching their style. Their style is very much> > focusing on spirituality, mainly what they termed samurai> > macrobiotics, > > > now there is a good book title!!!> > > which means 'duty to the lord' (in this case, the> > community and my teachers. I'm in service to the people. It is up to> > me to repay my debt to my teachers by becoming a very strong teacher> > myself. It's a mindset that "I am a macrobiotic teacher" and with> > that, it means that I have certain responsibilities. We also learned> > a lot about yin, yang, and destiny -- or how you can change or> > improve your destiny, including the past. > >> > >From what I can see in America, there is less focus on aspects such> > as that, but perhaps that is only because I haven't been in a Western> > macrobiotic community. The other difference I see is that Western> > macrobiotic people take supplements, eat more processed foods, and> > have bigger portions. Maybe they don't understand yin and yang as> > well as people in Japan, or maybe they just don't study it as much as> > people in Japan?> > > I think they do study at least in some places - a lot.> > I think that people in the west in the current generation area lot > weaker than in the orient in general. They are saying this is the first > generation not predicted to outlive their parents. the further the > generations are from good old peasant stock (!) the more in troubel > their/ourt health seems to be.> > > >> > -- > > Ilanit> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------> > Little Tree Pty Limited, Melbourne, Australia (Little Tree). ® > registered trademark, © copyright 2003. All rights reserved. This email > message and attachments may contain information that is confidential to > Little Tree. If you are not the intended recipient you cannot use, > distribute, forward or copy the message or attachments. In such a case, > please notify the sender by return email and erase all copies of the > message and attachments. The sender of this email message does not allow > the recipient to forward this email message or attachments in whole or > in part by means of the internet. Opinions, conclusions and other > information in this message and attachments that do not relate to the > official business of Little Ttree are neither given nor endorsed by it. > This email message and any attachments are subject to copyright.> > > > Ms Ilanit Tof> B.A. (Psychophysiology/Psychology)> Advanced Diploma Healing with Wholefoods> PhD Holistic Nutrition (candidate)> > Little Tree Oriental Healing Arts> Helping you grow to new heights of wellbeing> with Oriental Traditions and Modern Nutrition> > ilanit@... www.littletree.com.au > <http://www.littletree.com.au>> <http://www.littletree.com.au> <http://www.littletree.com.au>> <http://www.littletree.com.au>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2006 Report Share Posted May 30, 2006 leslieanneashburn wrote: I wish their site was in English too. She posts a mean recipe collection. My friend and I were thinking about that exact title for a book, but didn't know how much interest it would generate. ???? Wow - you would have tons - the name is great and captures some of the now dispersing spirit of the origins of mb I think too with fewer mb books coming out there would be lots of interest esp something like this with a bit of an authentic twist. I am preordering my copy now! Wish I would have taken more notes. Maybe we could piece things together between the two of us? you will probably be surprised how much you remember and can recount and I am sure that your teachers would be honoured to help out too. then they will have an english text book for the flood of students they will receive from the publiscity. Yes, living in Japan took oodles of bravery. good for the kidney chi as david briscoe says to do something that challenges you like that! It was either suffer in isolation and fear (which happened sometimes), or just GET OUT THERE AND LIVE! I have found all the japanese people I have met including the two roommates at the KI in holland a lady - mb - who came here alone with her young son to study - absolutely so friendly. And warm and genuine and when they come to the west often have to struggle with language and culture too these roomates were working for a rural dutch couple who were making homemade mb products and selling them. It was fun to travel around by myself (Japan, Thailand, Singapore, China, Hong Kong, Spain) and it gave me new- found confidence in myself. I see in the new newsletter from the Euro KI they added spiritual topics. That's the exact type of thing we were learning. Fun! Stimulating! it is amazing how they have changed in the last ten years - when I passed thru in 1005 the lunchroom was still smoke filled and one councelor told me relaxed they were now since they sometimes had mugi miso for breakfast instead of hatcho! Ilanit Tof - Signature Ilanit Ms Ilanit Tof B.A. (Psychophysiology/Psychology) Advanced Diploma Healing with Wholefoods PhD Holistic Nutrition (candidate) Little Tree Oriental Healing Arts Helping you grow to new heights of wellbeing with Oriental Traditions and Modern Nutrition ilanit@... www.littletree.com.au Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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