Guest guest Posted December 31, 2008 Report Posted December 31, 2008 My son's thyroid results and feritin (may 08) ferritin: 48 (ref: 18-325) > > > > Margaret, > > > > Thyroxine only supports the T4. It doesn't help the T3, the > important > > one. The doctors are relying on proper conversion from T4 to T3 by > the > > body itself. This is difficult to do in a selenium deficient > country > > (most of the industrialized countries have poor soil due to over > > farming) and where the government tells you NOT to take added salt > > which would have normally provided a decent source of iodine. > > > > I was prescribed thyroxine also in Germany which didn't help me or > > alleviate any symptoms at all. I now have looked at my old lab > reports > > through new specs and see I was NOT converting T4 to T3 > efficiently. I > > was hardly using any salt at the time due to government scares and > I > > didn't know a titch about selenium. > > > > Do you know what your free T3 is? > > > > If you want to get more info on this subject join the Natural > Thyroid > > Yahoo list. It's been a real eye-opener for me:-)) > > > > > > > > mcollins2001uk schrieb: > > > > > > Actually, I should like to try Armour myself and am currently > > > prescribed 125mcg thyroxine a day. My thyroid function is tested > at > > > least once a year. I know there is a lot of criticism of these > tests, > > > but they do have some value, nonetheless. > > > I wanted to post a warning about taking thyroxine or Armour > without > > > having regular tests. My sister had a patient who had a massive > stroke > > > and is very disabled; it was found that this was because his GP > had > > > over-prescribed thyroxine and had failed to monitor him with an > annual > > > blood test. There was a massive payout from the PCT. > > > Margaret > > > > > > PS Sandy, thank you for that link. It is very interesting and I > have > > > wondered about trying to see Dr Skinner myself, in order to > convert > > > from thyroxine to Armour. (BTW I suppose you know Dr Skinner has > > > restrictions on his registration with the GMC following a fitness > to > > > practice hearing. I read the report on the GMC website - there > was no > > > allegation anyone had suffered permanent harm by his prescribing > but 2 > > > patients were thyrotoxic and he continued to prescribe. > Interestingly, > > > it was not Armour that was being prescribed.) > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- -- > ------ > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > > Checked by AVG. > > > Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1866 - Release Date: > 27/12/2008 20:49 > > > > > > Quote
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2008 Report Posted December 31, 2008 oops wasnt finished iron 21 (ref: 10-30) so its ok Ferritin: 48 (ref: 18-325) fe saturation: 33 percent (20-50) b12: 1112 (ref: 175-750) b12 really high due to oral MB12? Thyroid Function test (got this on NHS, cause I bitched) Free Thyroxine: 14.1 (ref: 9-19) TSH: 1.864 (ref: 0.4 -4.5) Triiodothyronine: 2.5 (ref: 0.9 - 2.5) This is high, but dont know what it is?? other results: cortisol: 50 IGM: 0.46 (ref: 0.5-2.0) (low side) Urea: 7.6 (ref: 2.5-6.0) High Phosphate: 1.61 (ref: 0.80 - 1.55 ) (always high) Hydroxyproline: 56 (ref: 1-25) (always high) used to be 120 my boy's red blood count always low, liver enzymes always high, and Creatinine Kinase, always really high (muscle wasting) > > > > > > Margaret, > > > > > > Thyroxine only supports the T4. It doesn't help the T3, the > > important > > > one. The doctors are relying on proper conversion from T4 to T3 > by > > the > > > body itself. This is difficult to do in a selenium deficient > > country > > > (most of the industrialized countries have poor soil due to over > > > farming) and where the government tells you NOT to take added > salt > > > which would have normally provided a decent source of iodine. > > > > > > I was prescribed thyroxine also in Germany which didn't help me > or > > > alleviate any symptoms at all. I now have looked at my old lab > > reports > > > through new specs and see I was NOT converting T4 to T3 > > efficiently. I > > > was hardly using any salt at the time due to government scares > and > > I > > > didn't know a titch about selenium. > > > > > > Do you know what your free T3 is? > > > > > > If you want to get more info on this subject join the Natural > > Thyroid > > > Yahoo list. It's been a real eye-opener for me:-)) > > > > > > > > > > > > mcollins2001uk schrieb: > > > > > > > > Actually, I should like to try Armour myself and am currently > > > > prescribed 125mcg thyroxine a day. My thyroid function is > tested > > at > > > > least once a year. I know there is a lot of criticism of these > > tests, > > > > but they do have some value, nonetheless. > > > > I wanted to post a warning about taking thyroxine or Armour > > without > > > > having regular tests. My sister had a patient who had a massive > > stroke > > > > and is very disabled; it was found that this was because his GP > > had > > > > over-prescribed thyroxine and had failed to monitor him with an > > annual > > > > blood test. There was a massive payout from the PCT. > > > > Margaret > > > > > > > > PS Sandy, thank you for that link. It is very interesting and I > > have > > > > wondered about trying to see Dr Skinner myself, in order to > > convert > > > > from thyroxine to Armour. (BTW I suppose you know Dr Skinner has > > > > restrictions on his registration with the GMC following a > fitness > > to > > > > practice hearing. I read the report on the GMC website - there > > was no > > > > allegation anyone had suffered permanent harm by his > prescribing > > but 2 > > > > patients were thyrotoxic and he continued to prescribe. > > Interestingly, > > > > it was not Armour that was being prescribed.) > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- -- > -- > > ------ > > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > > > Checked by AVG. > > > > Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1866 - Release > Date: > > 27/12/2008 20:49 > > > > > > > > > > Quote
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2008 Report Posted December 31, 2008 > > > > > > > > Margaret, > > > > > > > > Thyroxine only supports the T4. It doesn't help the T3, the > > > important > > > > one. The doctors are relying on proper conversion from T4 to T3 > > by > > > the > > > > body itself. This is difficult to do in a selenium deficient > > > country > > > > (most of the industrialized countries have poor soil due to > over > > > > farming) and where the government tells you NOT to take added > > salt > > > > which would have normally provided a decent source of iodine. > > > > > > > > I was prescribed thyroxine also in Germany which didn't help me > > or > > > > alleviate any symptoms at all. I now have looked at my old lab > > > reports > > > > through new specs and see I was NOT converting T4 to T3 > > > efficiently. I > > > > was hardly using any salt at the time due to government scares > > and > > > I > > > > didn't know a titch about selenium. > > > > > > > > Do you know what your free T3 is? > > > > > > > > If you want to get more info on this subject join the Natural > > > Thyroid > > > > Yahoo list. It's been a real eye-opener for me:-)) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mcollins2001uk schrieb: > > > > > > > > > > Actually, I should like to try Armour myself and am currently > > > > > prescribed 125mcg thyroxine a day. My thyroid function is > > tested > > > at > > > > > least once a year. I know there is a lot of criticism of > these > > > tests, > > > > > but they do have some value, nonetheless. > > > > > I wanted to post a warning about taking thyroxine or Armour > > > without > > > > > having regular tests. My sister had a patient who had a > massive > > > stroke > > > > > and is very disabled; it was found that this was because his > GP > > > had > > > > > over-prescribed thyroxine and had failed to monitor him with > an > > > annual > > > > > blood test. There was a massive payout from the PCT. > > > > > Margaret > > > > > > > > > > PS Sandy, thank you for that link. It is very interesting and > I > > > have > > > > > wondered about trying to see Dr Skinner myself, in order to > > > convert > > > > > from thyroxine to Armour. (BTW I suppose you know Dr Skinner > has > > > > > restrictions on his registration with the GMC following a > > fitness > > > to > > > > > practice hearing. I read the report on the GMC website - > there > > > was no > > > > > allegation anyone had suffered permanent harm by his > > prescribing > > > but 2 > > > > > patients were thyrotoxic and he continued to prescribe. > > > Interestingly, > > > > > it was not Armour that was being prescribed.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ -- > -- > > -- > > > ------ > > > > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > > > > Checked by AVG. > > > > > Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1866 - Release > > Date: > > > 27/12/2008 20:49 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote
Guest guest Posted December 31, 2008 Report Posted December 31, 2008 Our doc says he prefers that TSH be ~ 1.0 > > > > > > > > > > Margaret, > > > > > > > > > > Thyroxine only supports the T4. It doesn't help the T3, the > > > > important > > > > > one. The doctors are relying on proper conversion from T4 to > T3 > > > by > > > > the > > > > > body itself. This is difficult to do in a selenium deficient > > > > country > > > > > (most of the industrialized countries have poor soil due to > > over > > > > > farming) and where the government tells you NOT to take > added > > > salt > > > > > which would have normally provided a decent source of iodine. > > > > > > > > > > I was prescribed thyroxine also in Germany which didn't help > me > > > or > > > > > alleviate any symptoms at all. I now have looked at my old > lab > > > > reports > > > > > through new specs and see I was NOT converting T4 to T3 > > > > efficiently. I > > > > > was hardly using any salt at the time due to government > scares > > > and > > > > I > > > > > didn't know a titch about selenium. > > > > > > > > > > Do you know what your free T3 is? > > > > > > > > > > If you want to get more info on this subject join the Natural > > > > Thyroid > > > > > Yahoo list. It's been a real eye-opener for me:-)) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mcollins2001uk schrieb: > > > > > > > > > > > > Actually, I should like to try Armour myself and am > currently > > > > > > prescribed 125mcg thyroxine a day. My thyroid function is > > > tested > > > > at > > > > > > least once a year. I know there is a lot of criticism of > > these > > > > tests, > > > > > > but they do have some value, nonetheless. > > > > > > I wanted to post a warning about taking thyroxine or Armour > > > > without > > > > > > having regular tests. My sister had a patient who had a > > massive > > > > stroke > > > > > > and is very disabled; it was found that this was because > his > > GP > > > > had > > > > > > over-prescribed thyroxine and had failed to monitor him > with > > an > > > > annual > > > > > > blood test. There was a massive payout from the PCT. > > > > > > Margaret > > > > > > > > > > > > PS Sandy, thank you for that link. It is very interesting > and > > I > > > > have > > > > > > wondered about trying to see Dr Skinner myself, in order to > > > > convert > > > > > > from thyroxine to Armour. (BTW I suppose you know Dr > Skinner > > has > > > > > > restrictions on his registration with the GMC following a > > > fitness > > > > to > > > > > > practice hearing. I read the report on the GMC website - > > there > > > > was no > > > > > > allegation anyone had suffered permanent harm by his > > > prescribing > > > > but 2 > > > > > > patients were thyrotoxic and he continued to prescribe. > > > > Interestingly, > > > > > > it was not Armour that was being prescribed.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- -- > -- > > -- > > > -- > > > > ------ > > > > > > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > > > > > Checked by AVG. > > > > > > Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.10.0/1866 - Release > > > Date: > > > > 27/12/2008 20:49 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.