Guest guest Posted May 18, 2004 Report Share Posted May 18, 2004 I know I know ME again, I am so desperate for knowledge here. When you soak grains, do you drain off the water or use it to cook? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2004 Report Share Posted May 18, 2004 Hi! Below is a summary of the recommendations in Nourishing Traditions. It's from http://www.powerhealth.net/nutrition.htm. Dr. Byrnes is an honorary member of the Weston A. Price Foundation. He neglected to write that with quinoa, you must pour off the soaking water, like you do with beans and legumes. Sometimes I pour off some of the soaking water from my soaked oats, barley, rye, etc., because the sour taste can be quite strong. Millet, buckwheat and rice don't contain as much phytic acid as most other whole grains, so soaking them for 7 hours should be sufficient. Other grains benefit from a longer soak (at least 12 hours). I hope this helps! :-) Blackberrycat Summary Whole Grains For millet, brown rice, oatmeal, amaranth, etc., soak desired amount of grain in an equal amount of water to which you've added 2 tablespoons of raw vinegar, fresh lemon juice, plain yogurt, or buttermilk. Cover and let sit at room temperature for at least 7 hours, longer preferably. When ready to cook, add remaining required amount of water or stock and cook. NOTE: To soak whole grain flours or pancake mixes, follow the same procedure as above. Raw Nuts Place raw nuts in a bowl, add 1 tablespoon of sea salt, and cover with water. Leave at room temperature for 6-8 hours. Drain out the water. Place nuts on a cookie sheet and dry on low heat in the oven. You can also air-dry the nuts on a towel, but it takes much longer to dry them this way. Raw Beans & Lentils Follow the same instructions as for whole grains, but POUR OFF the soaking water and replace with fresh water before cooking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2004 Report Share Posted May 20, 2004 Hi ! I'm really glad that was helpful. :-) You don't have to add anything to the soaking water, but it's safer and better if you do. It prevents undesirable organisms from growing, and it also speeds up the fermentation process, so more good organisms (eg. lactic bacteria) can grow. Soaking whole grains, etc. like this neutralizes some of the `anti-nutrients' (phytic acid, for example) that prevent us from getting the full benefits (vitamins and minerals) from whole grains. So, I guess it isn't accurate to say that soaking `removes' the bad things; it deactivates them. I hope I'm explaining this well! Visit Westonaprice.org and you'll find better information about this. Something that you might find helpful: Go to http://www.newtrendspublishing.com/SallyFallon/index.html and you can download (totally for free) a couple of chapters from Nourishing Traditions. The fantastic health-book excerpts that are in the published book aren't included in the free files, but you'll have a copy of a few recipes, including Crispy Nuts! You might be able to get Nourishing Traditions used. Search for the book on Amazon.com and other book sites and see if there are any used copies for sale. It's a great book because it's many books in one, so that makes it a much better value than most cookbooks. The recipes are useful, but the information given on either side of the recipes on each page is incredible. I've had the book for a while, and I'm still working my way through it because there's so much to read. It's really worth the money. I'm super frugal, and I was nervous when I ordered it from Amazon (that saved me some money because it cost more in most stores) It turned out to be one of the best things I've ever bought. I learned so much and am continuing to learn, because I'm working my way through the recommended book list on westonaprice.org. And I have spoken to Sally Fallon and I may become a WAPF chapter leader here, which is really exciting! Kind regards, Blackberrycat From: " blackberrycat2004 " > Subject: Re: soaking water > > Hi! > > Below is a summary of the recommendations in Nourishing > Traditions. It's from http://www.powerhealth.net/nutrition.htm. > > > Mrs. Siemens > > Helpmeet to , mommy to Zachary & Lydia > > " For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation.... " > -Romans 1:16a- > > > > > > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Post your free ad now! Canada Personals > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 Hi, Jeff, you use " soaks " for smoothies? What do you mean by it? Is it good to drink the soaking water? I think it could be very health, lots of minerals and enzymes and also more vital. What about rejuvenac? Has someone experience with it. I read somewhere that Ann Wigmore does not advises it any more but I dont know why. peace noel > Greens can be combined with any food group.There are two sprout soaks > that I blend with sunflower sunnies and sesame seeds.They are somewhat > neutral in taste and give a milk type consistensy to the smoothie.I > tried other sprouts such as alfalfa and mung bean and found there > taste in smoothies to be horrible.Soaks are almost immpossible to scew > up and very fast to make.Jeff. > > <mailto:%40> > From: bonnieblanchet@ hotmail.com <mailto:bonnieblanchet%40hotmail.com> > Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 23:49:13 -0800 > Subject: RE: first sprouting results > > I am confused about this green fruit drink. I thought the food > combining recommendations were no fruit and vegies? Banannas and Kale > - sounds yuk. Is there some reason you mix these two together. > > From > <mailto:%40From>: sparrowrose@ > gmail.comDate <mailto:sparrowrose%40gmail.comDate>: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 > 14:45:41 -0700Subject: Re: first sprouting results > > On 11/23/08, Schverzhjedzova <ahoovahyah (DOT) ca > <mailto:ahoovahyah%40.ca>> wrote:>> I am giving up on sprouting > for now.> I have not yet found a single one that sprouts properly and > that I> can eat and enjoy. all I can do is cream the raw slimy sprouts > in my> vita mix and eat raw somehow (gag it down slowly). So much for > a raw> food diet.The cornerstone of a raw foods diet should be dark > leafy greens. Youhave a vitamix already, which is perfect for making > green smoothies.If your system can tolerate fruit, try filling the > blender looselywith a dark green like kale (remove the stems) or > spinach (the stemsare okay) and then add 2 or 3 bananas and about two > cups of water andblend until it's a smooth green drink.If you can't > handle high sweets like bananas, try making it withavocado > instead.Some good greens to use include: celery, parsley, romaine > lettuce,colalrd greens (remove the stem)Any kind of fruit is good to > use. If you go with avocado instead,consider adding " non-sweet fruits " > like tomato and cucumber to make a " blended salad. " Sparrow > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > Get more done, have more fun, and stay more connected with Windows > MobileĀ®. > > http://clk.atdmt. com/MRT/go/ 119642556/ direct/01/ > <http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/119642556/direct/01/> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 soaks are generally done in 24hrs. or less just enough time to release the life force within the seed.sunflower sunnies take 24hrs. while sunflower greens take 5-10 days depending on the weather.Soak water is waste water that can be used for watering other plants. Dr. Clement of the florida hippocrates phased out the use of rejuvelac after tests of the cultures coming back with unwanted bacteria.Using a product that could cause problems for someone who is strugeling to regain health would violate the hippocrates code of do no harm.aliveraw.com has alot of info. from Dr. Clement and you should be able to find something on why they phased out rejuvelac.Jeff. From: brocki888@... Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 15:08:12 +0100 Subject: Re: soaking water Hi, Jeff, you use " soaks " for smoothies? What do you mean by it? Is it good to drink the soaking water? I think it could be very health, lots of minerals and enzymes and also more vital. What about rejuvenac? Has someone experience with it. I read somewhere that Ann Wigmore does not advises it any more but I dont know why. peace noel > Greens can be combined with any food group.There are two sprout soaks > that I blend with sunflower sunnies and sesame seeds.They are somewhat > neutral in taste and give a milk type consistensy to the smoothie.I > tried other sprouts such as alfalfa and mung bean and found there > taste in smoothies to be horrible.Soaks are almost immpossible to scew > up and very fast to make.Jeff. > > <mailto:%40> > From: bonnieblanchet@ hotmail.com <mailto:bonnieblanchet%40hotmail.com> > Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 23:49:13 -0800 > Subject: RE: first sprouting results > > I am confused about this green fruit drink. I thought the food > combining recommendations were no fruit and vegies? Banannas and Kale > - sounds yuk. Is there some reason you mix these two together. > > From > <mailto:%40From>: sparrowrose@ > gmail.comDate <mailto:sparrowrose%40gmail.comDate>: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 > 14:45:41 -0700Subject: Re: first sprouting results > > On 11/23/08, Schverzhjedzova <ahoovahyah (DOT) ca > <mailto:ahoovahyah%40.ca>> wrote:>> I am giving up on sprouting > for now.> I have not yet found a single one that sprouts properly and > that I> can eat and enjoy. all I can do is cream the raw slimy sprouts > in my> vita mix and eat raw somehow (gag it down slowly). So much for > a raw> food diet.The cornerstone of a raw foods diet should be dark > leafy greens. Youhave a vitamix already, which is perfect for making > green smoothies.If your system can tolerate fruit, try filling the > blender looselywith a dark green like kale (remove the stems) or > spinach (the stemsare okay) and then add 2 or 3 bananas and about two > cups of water andblend until it's a smooth green drink.If you can't > handle high sweets like bananas, try making it withavocado > instead.Some good greens to use include: celery, parsley, romaine > lettuce,colalrd greens (remove the stem)Any kind of fruit is good to > use. If you go with avocado instead,consider adding " non-sweet fruits " > like tomato and cucumber to make a " blended salad. " Sparrow > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > Get more done, have more fun, and stay more connected with Windows > MobileĀ®. > > http://clk.atdmt. com/MRT/go/ 119642556/ direct/01/ > <http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/119642556/direct/01/> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 Some one correct if I am wrong. Most of the time seeds are exposed to contaminants and chemicals.Before you soak your seeds,you are suppose to wash them thoroughly and rinse many times to get rid of the contaminants.But no matter how you wash you seeds,these contaminants are always there.Soaking is just part of a procedure to get rid of these dirts.Soaking is also a very effective way to shake up the sleeping seeds and germinate almost instantly by this shock method. You are suppose to wash the seeds again a few times after soaking before you sprout them in the sprouters or tray etc. Imagine what will happen to you if you drink these " soak water " full of contaminants and bacteria.This " soak water " is only good for watering out door plants. On Tue, Nov 25, 2008 at 8:29 AM, JEFF JOHNS <healthnut422@...> wrote: > > > > > > > > soaks are generally done in 24hrs. or less just enough time to release the > life force within the seed.sunflower sunnies take 24hrs. while sunflower > greens take 5-10 days depending on the weather.Soak water is waste water > that can be used for watering other plants. > Dr. Clement of the florida hippocrates phased out the use of rejuvelac > after tests of the cultures coming back with unwanted bacteria.Using a > product that could cause problems for someone who is strugeling to regain > health would violate the hippocrates code of do no harm.aliveraw.com has > alot of info. from Dr. Clement and you should be able to find something > on why they phased out rejuvelac.Jeff. > > From: brocki888@... > Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2008 15:08:12 +0100 > Subject: Re: soaking water > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi, > > > > Jeff, you use " soaks " for smoothies? What do you mean by it? > > > > Is it good to drink the soaking water? I think it could be very health, > > lots of minerals and enzymes and also more vital. What about rejuvenac? > > Has someone experience with it. I read somewhere that Ann Wigmore does > > not advises it any more but I dont know why. > > > > peace > > > > noel > > > > > Greens can be combined with any food group.There are two sprout soaks > > > that I blend with sunflower sunnies and sesame seeds.They are somewhat > > > neutral in taste and give a milk type consistensy to the smoothie.I > > > tried other sprouts such as alfalfa and mung bean and found there > > > taste in smoothies to be horrible.Soaks are almost immpossible to scew > > > up and very fast to make.Jeff. > > > > > > <mailto: > %40 <%2540>> > > > From: bonnieblanchet@ hotmail.com <mailto:bonnieblanchet%40hotmail.com<bonnieblanchet%2540hotmail.com> > > > > > Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2008 23:49:13 -0800 > > > Subject: RE: first sprouting results > > > > > > I am confused about this green fruit drink. I thought the food > > > combining recommendations were no fruit and vegies? Banannas and Kale > > > - sounds yuk. Is there some reason you mix these two together. > > > > > > From > > > <mailto:%40From<%2540From>\ >: > sparrowrose@ > > > gmail.comDate <mailto:sparrowrose%40gmail.comDate<sparrowrose%2540gmail.comDate>>: > Sun, 23 Nov 2008 > > > 14:45:41 -0700Subject: Re: first sprouting results > > > > > > On 11/23/08, Schverzhjedzova <ahoovahyah (DOT) ca > > > <mailto:ahoovahyah%40.ca <ahoovahyah%2540.ca>>> wrote:>> I am > giving up on sprouting > > > for now.> I have not yet found a single one that sprouts properly and > > > that I> can eat and enjoy. all I can do is cream the raw slimy sprouts > > > in my> vita mix and eat raw somehow (gag it down slowly). So much for > > > a raw> food diet.The cornerstone of a raw foods diet should be dark > > > leafy greens. Youhave a vitamix already, which is perfect for making > > > green smoothies.If your system can tolerate fruit, try filling the > > > blender looselywith a dark green like kale (remove the stems) or > > > spinach (the stemsare okay) and then add 2 or 3 bananas and about two > > > cups of water andblend until it's a smooth green drink.If you can't > > > handle high sweets like bananas, try making it withavocado > > > instead.Some good greens to use include: celery, parsley, romaine > > > lettuce,colalrd greens (remove the stem)Any kind of fruit is good to > > > use. If you go with avocado instead,consider adding " non-sweet fruits " > > > like tomato and cucumber to make a " blended salad. " Sparrow > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > > > > Get more done, have more fun, and stay more connected with Windows > > > MobileĀ®. > > > > > > http://clk.atdmt. com/MRT/go/ 119642556/ direct/01/ > > > <http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/119642556/direct/01/> > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 24, 2008 Report Share Posted November 24, 2008 Albert, What are these contaminants that you're talking about? I buy organic seeds and soak and rinse with purified water. I have no concerns about my seed or what I soak and rinse them in. Is the water where you live bad? ew Re: first sprouting results > > > > > > On 11/23/08, Schverzhjedzova <ahoovahyah (DOT) ca > > > <mailto:ahoovahyah%40.ca <ahoovahyah%2540.ca>>> wrote:>> I am > giving up on sprouting > > > for now.> I have not yet found a single one that sprouts properly and > > > that I> can eat and enjoy. all I can do is cream the raw slimy sprouts > > > in my> vita mix and eat raw somehow (gag it down slowly). So much for > > > a raw> food diet.The cornerstone of a raw foods diet should be dark > > > leafy greens. Youhave a vitamix already, which is perfect for making > > > green smoothies.If your system can tolerate fruit, try filling the > > > blender looselywith a dark green like kale (remove the stems) or > > > spinach (the stemsare okay) and then add 2 or 3 bananas and about two > > > cups of water andblend until it's a smooth green drink.If you can't > > > handle high sweets like bananas, try making it withavocado > > > instead.Some good greens to use include: celery, parsley, romaine > > > lettuce,colalrd greens (remove the stem)Any kind of fruit is good to > > > use. If you go with avocado instead,consider adding " non-sweet fruits " > > > like tomato and cucumber to make a " blended salad. " Sparrow > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ > > > > > > Get more done, have more fun, and stay more connected with Windows > > > MobileĀ®. > > > > > > http://clk.atdmt. com/MRT/go/ 119642556/ direct/01/ > > > <http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/119642556/direct/01/> > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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