Guest guest Posted July 9, 2001 Report Share Posted July 9, 2001 I can see that the " great debate " has started again. I think I'll stay out of it this time. MP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2001 Report Share Posted July 10, 2001 > Dear Bill; > I really question the health benefit of such a restrictive plan. Read THE ANABOLIC DIET, by Dr. Mauro DiPasquale, and NATURAL HORMONAL ENHANCEMENT by Rob Faigin. Nobody's saying that BFL is a " bad " way of eating; it's certainly not. It's just that if one wants to be more scientific, then one can gain greater benefits by somewhat less convenient ways of eating. (However, a major attraction of either the Anabolic Diet or the NHE diet is that there are far more than 54 foods to choose from, as with BFL.) < While I understand the basis for what Andy is trying to do, and am more than behind the idea of trying to 'tweak' a system to benefit yourself. I think it is very dangerous and downright irresponsible to provide 'advice' that is going to derail the normal processes the body wants to perform. > This is based on sound science, not something dangerous. You simply haven't read up on it, it seems. < BP has created a very sound system to gain a BASE from which people can change their eating habits, improve their health, and lead better lives. > No argument there. I've never argued against BFL as a *base*. In fact, as I've said over and over on this board (you must've missed those posts), I continue to advocate BFL to many people I talk to who are just playing around the edges of fitness education and don't know where to begin. I give Bill a world of credit for getting me off the couch and giving me hope that I could get into shape. I don't immediately introduce people to NHE because it's more demanding, more scientific. < While I am all for structured debate on things regarding tweaking the system, I am not for rewriting the book. > I am for extending one's education, and make no apology for it. Regards, Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2001 Report Share Posted July 10, 2001 > > Dear Bill; > > I really question the health benefit of such a restrictive plan. > The glycogen requirements of the body are very important for > regulation of just about every other aspect of the human body's > systems: central nervous system - circulator - hormonal and so on. > > it's not restrictive at all I use it everyday the NHE program not the > hybrid that Andy uses =) Hey, don't be implying my version is restrictive. That's hardly the case - otherwise why would I have started this thread based on a magazine article re. a couple hundred bodybuilding foods? < most people around the list know about andy, so they take him with a grain of salt or they delete him. > Hey, you give the same advice, Bill. I'm just more vocal about it. :-) Regards, Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2001 Report Share Posted July 10, 2001 Only because isn't familiar with it from before. > I can see that the " great debate " has started again. I think I'll > stay out of it this time. > > MP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2001 Report Share Posted July 10, 2001 > Hey, you give the same advice, Bill. I'm just more vocal about it. > :-) yes i do sorry didn't mean to imply you were a trouble maker or anything ;-) bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2001 Report Share Posted July 10, 2001 I guess he needs to search the archives so we can avoid a rerun. Andyman > > I can see that the " great debate " has started again. I think I'll > > stay out of it this time. > > > > MP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2001 Report Share Posted July 13, 2001 < Ingesting large quantities of your daily carb intake into a short period in the evening hours will only cause your insulin to boost right up. Next, the body looks for free protein to use up in the anabolic process. When protein utilization is waning, carb utilization beings... insulin + carbs will =eventually= lead to fat. Your body many not turn all of it into fat, but a good portion of it. You will not change that process no matter who you are. It is a standard metabolic process. > Thanks for the tip; I'm always open to learning more. If I weren't I'd be a hypocrite. < You stated that carbs should be taken in more in the latter part of the day. And I didn't say carbs before bedtime either. Read it again, it says 'late in the day'. > The reason for late-in-the-day carbs is because fat-burning is greater in the absence of insulin, and carbs raise insulin. Therefore if insulin is raised later in the day, and then you sleep it off, you continually burn more fat through each day. However, one needn't have *only* carbs late in the day. Then again, on a carb- cycling diet this isn't a concern anyway. < show me a true scientific double blind study with placebos (to fake carb and protein ingestion) where your statement holds true. You won't find one, because no one has EVER been able to prove this theory to be correct. SUppositions have been made in the bodybuilding / fitness community, but in this case, I have to side with the medical community. And even if what you say is correct, the burden to the kidneys would be greater than normal... and that isn't a good thing either. > I'll get back to you on that one. Andy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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