Stomach Pain and thyroid, serotonin

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Nicola,

So glad to hear you have a diagnosis.

I didn't realize this before the penny dropped wiith me the last few

days but constipation IS symptomatic of thyroid, in fact it is a classic

symptom. Did the doctor suggest having that checked out?

Thyroid controls serotonin metabolism and serotonin is important for

moving th bowels. People who are depressed (low serotonin) classically

have constipation also.

I posted something about brown sugar for constipation a few weeks back

but I couldn't understand the reasons why it would help. Last week when

I was going over my thesis I had to read up on carbohydrates and

serotonin. Apparently high carbs, like sugar, (as opposed to high

protein) will raise serotonin levels. So by giving sugar, you are

essentially giving serotonin which will move the bowels.

Nicola schrieb:

>

> Hi

>

> Thanks everyone for your posts - really appreciate it.

>

> Well we took Luke to A & E this morning as he was still the same -

> lots of pain. We pushed for an x-ray and then the results showed he

> was completely loaded.

>

> The consultant said she would have never have guessed just how loaded

> and bunged up he was from examining as he was only slightly bloated

> and couldn't believe it when she saw the x-ray.

>

> Because of the severity of the loading she is sure the pain is from

> this and has prescribed movicol - which were are currently trying to

> convince Luke to drink!!

>

> So the message here is that although your child does not look

> massively bloated - they could still be completely loaded. For the

> last 2 months Luke's appetite has dropped off and will only eat if you

> put something in front of him but will never ask for food.

>

> I have been giving him a maintenance dose of oxypowder of 1 capsule a

> day - which obviously isn't enough. Though every couple of weeks I do

> give him 2-3 caps to flush him out - though again I now realise that

> although it looks as though I have flushed him out - I haven't.

>

> Doctor has recommended that I start by giving 2-4 sachets a movicol a

> day and then increase if not working.

>

> What are other people's experience's of using movicol? Does it work

> quickly? How much did you have to use? How do you know when you have

> got it all out etc?

>

> Just so relieved we know what it is.

>

> Nicola

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> * Re: Stomach Pain

>

> Hi Nicola

> Its a terrible shame that Luke is so poorly. One thing that I thought

> of when I read your post was parasites. Parasitic infections often

> produce lots of bloating especially after eating and lots of gas.

> Would it be possible to have a stool test done? Also if you have

> recently introduced a new diet (sorry didnt read every post recently)

> then this may be responsible. You mentioned going low carb with SCD

> what does that mean if you dont mind me asking? Do you mean the carbs

> in veg which are allowed? If so maybe he is in ketosis and his body

> is not coping with that, just a thought. Another point which I am

> sure someone may have mentioned is the winter vomiting virus. Cameron

> and I had this for a few weeks before Xmas and I wasnt really that

> sick but the nausea and the stomach pain was terrible, especially

> after eating. Just a thot. I hope Luke is better today. If I were you

> I would go back to a very basic diet of scrambled eggs, pear puree,

> chicken broth, lots of water and just allow his digestive system to

> get a little break.

> (Of course I always think everything is bowel problems and I havent

> mentioned that at all but the usual things like reflux and colitis

> are possible too).

> Lotsa Luv, thinking of you.

> Caroline

> xx

>

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[Guest guest]

,

definitely has thyroid problems. I wonder if this is why Kalo

rice milk produces good results in the toilet (really empties him) but

I don't let him have it because he then gets yeasty and that is just too

awful around here. He is taller than me and heavier than me and a

violent bonkers person bigger than me is really scary.

JULIE GRIFFITHS wrote:

>

> Nicola,

>

> So glad to hear you have a diagnosis.

>

> I didn't realize this before the penny dropped wiith me the last few

> days but constipation IS symptomatic of thyroid, in fact it is a classic

> symptom. Did the doctor suggest having that checked out?

>

> Thyroid controls serotonin metabolism and serotonin is important for

> moving th bowels. People who are depressed (low serotonin) classically

> have constipation also.

>

> I posted something about brown sugar for constipation a few weeks back

> but I couldn't understand the reasons why it would help. Last week when

> I was going over my thesis I had to read up on carbohydrates and

> serotonin. Apparently high carbs, like sugar, (as opposed to high

> protein) will raise serotonin levels. So by giving sugar, you are

> essentially giving serotonin which will move the bowels.

>

>

>

> Nicola schrieb:

> >

> > Hi

> >

> > Thanks everyone for your posts - really appreciate it.

> >

> > Well we took Luke to A & E this morning as he was still the same -

> > lots of pain. We pushed for an x-ray and then the results showed he

> > was completely loaded.

> >

> > The consultant said she would have never have guessed just how loaded

> > and bunged up he was from examining as he was only slightly bloated

> > and couldn't believe it when she saw the x-ray.

> >

> > Because of the severity of the loading she is sure the pain is from

> > this and has prescribed movicol - which were are currently trying to

> > convince Luke to drink!!

> >

> > So the message here is that although your child does not look

> > massively bloated - they could still be completely loaded. For the

> > last 2 months Luke's appetite has dropped off and will only eat if you

> > put something in front of him but will never ask for food.

> >

> > I have been giving him a maintenance dose of oxypowder of 1 capsule a

> > day - which obviously isn't enough. Though every couple of weeks I do

> > give him 2-3 caps to flush him out - though again I now realise that

> > although it looks as though I have flushed him out - I haven't.

> >

> > Doctor has recommended that I start by giving 2-4 sachets a movicol a

> > day and then increase if not working.

> >

> > What are other people's experience's of using movicol? Does it work

> > quickly? How much did you have to use? How do you know when you have

> > got it all out etc?

> >

> > Just so relieved we know what it is.

> >

> > Nicola

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > * [Autism-Biomedical- Europe] Re: Stomach Pain

> >

> > Hi Nicola

> > Its a terrible shame that Luke is so poorly. One thing that I thought

> > of when I read your post was parasites. Parasitic infections often

> > produce lots of bloating especially after eating and lots of gas.

> > Would it be possible to have a stool test done? Also if you have

> > recently introduced a new diet (sorry didnt read every post recently)

> > then this may be responsible. You mentioned going low carb with SCD

> > what does that mean if you dont mind me asking? Do you mean the carbs

> > in veg which are allowed? If so maybe he is in ketosis and his body

> > is not coping with that, just a thought. Another point which I am

> > sure someone may have mentioned is the winter vomiting virus. Cameron

> > and I had this for a few weeks before Xmas and I wasnt really that

> > sick but the nausea and the stomach pain was terrible, especially

> > after eating. Just a thot. I hope Luke is better today. If I were you

> > I would go back to a very basic diet of scrambled eggs, pear puree,

> > chicken broth, lots of water and just allow his digestive system to

> > get a little break.

> > (Of course I always think everything is bowel problems and I havent

> > mentioned that at all but the usual things like reflux and colitis

> > are possible too).

> > Lotsa Luv, thinking of you.

> > Caroline

> > xx

> >

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