Guest guest Posted June 22, 2008 Report Share Posted June 22, 2008 Connie, My bad! Distractible here. Liz > > > > Oh how I hear ya!! I would get teased all the time when i first > started NFB that if you come into my house don't sit down too long > " She'll hook you up! " > > Well this is my esponse and this is just theory, so this is not the > facts, you'lll have to ask Pete for that! > > Let's just say that your son plays Grand Theft Auto without the > sound or the sound low. What does his brain do when he is on that > game? Is it getting over stimulated? Is he producing ridiculous > amounts of HiBeta or even large amplitudes of Theta. > > There is an incredible game in Europe. My dream game. There is a > huge air hockey looking table with a puck in the middle and one person > is at one end and the other at the other end of the table but instead > of padddles they have electrodes on their head. They are sitting and > they are getting rewarded for being calm, focused, probably lobeta > would be my guess and their rewad is that the puck moves in the > oponents direction. Did I also ad that there are tons of people around > watching this whole event occur? So normally with this kind of > pressure what would the brain do. Personally before NFb I don't know > that I would have done so well. But because of the NFB now the people > that play this can remain cool calm and collected and m ove the puck > in the opposite direction. So back to the Grand Theft Auto - what do > you want your son't braint to do while heis playing such a violent > game? Do you want his brain to be in that HiBeta hypervigilant > exciteable freaky > > place or would you like his brain to be in a cool calm collected > place. How much more challenging could you get by giving the brain an > objective like that. > > Okay one more point - When I first started NFb I use to use a > headset on each person and would struggle terribly with the signal and > interference, blah blah > > This woman said that she doesn't use the head sets. I said > well I have multiple people inthe room how could that possibly work? > Well the brain knows what signal it is producing. The brain is just > amazing and it can determine what signal is its own. I have three > people in my office most of the time all without headsets and I get > wonderful results. Besides if you think about it if you are in the > room and you are istening to the rewards that the other person is > getting why aren't you walking around with a twitch!!!! > > I know I would be with all the Fb rewards I hear every day!!!!! > > ANd for that matter look at Pete, if his brain responded to all the > rewards he has heard ov er theyears, well then maybe he would have > been found with one of those cute little huggy jackets years ago!! > > Hope this helps rather than confuses more. > > BTW- I heard that Grand Theft Auto you get points for raping a woman > and killing people very violently. Is this true? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2008 Report Share Posted June 22, 2008 Thanks, Connie. Mark RE: Re:need advice Hi Liz, this is Connie This is off topic a bit but I only trained my son for 10 minutes 2 times a week for about 40 sessions and he has greatly improved. I trained him with very uninteresting feedback but for 10 minutes it was ok. After getting the correct protocol, he never had a late assignment. His grades have improved greatly and he is much more involved with other kids. It does not have to be much to work. Also, once he sees the improvement, he may keep coming. When we were trying to find the correct protocol, one was good for school but he could not sleep. We changed the protocol to help for sleep and the school benefit went away. He was so upset that he told me, “I don’t need to sleep anyway.” We were able to get one that helped with sleep and with school and we were on our way. He did come to me when he was very upset about something and said he needed help with depression and was willing to do another round but felt better and did not want to do it anymore. You may not have an issue. From: braintrainer [mailto:braintrainer ] On Behalf Of lizmargoshesSent: Saturday, June 21, 2008 3:04 PMTo: braintrainer Subject: Re:need advice OK, so...if the client is playing a game that has audio involved, thetone, let's say, from the neurofeedback will still "get through" insome way?I'm presuming here that it would NOT be a wonderful idea to train my15-year-old son while he is playing Grand Theft Auto IV, correct?Because I think the stimuli of the game would totally overwhelm thelittle tone of the neurofeedback software. (not to mention the otheraspects of the game...)How do you deal with the two auditory "tracks", that of the NFB andthat of the game? Sorry to ask for such literal and specific advice -- I'd like topresent NFB to my son in as palatable a form as possible. So far Ihave been training my husband (my first "customer"), who is not nearlyas, um, demanding. It sounds very interesting, to be able to present agame, say, for the DS, which my son owns, as an incentive to do theneurofeedback. I imagine my son (with ADHD and other issues, includingAdolescence)will become bored with the single task involved on theneurofeedback screens. He'd definitely do it once for novelty's sake,but then I foresee an uphill battle to get him to come back for moretraining. If he were to do the training with an accompanying game,that would be a completely different animal!THANKSLiz> >>>>> >>>> (post about using handheld devices etc. for games and tasks while> >>> training with just audio feedback)> >>>> >>>> >>> ------------------------------------> >>>> >>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2008 Report Share Posted June 23, 2008 Sharrie, My son informs me that there's no rape in Grand Theft Auto IV. He doesn't know about I through III because he doesn't own them. I'm sure there's plenty of violence. Liz > > > BTW- I heard that Grand Theft Auto you get points for raping a woman and killing people very violently. Is this true? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2008 Report Share Posted June 23, 2008 Sharrie, My son informs me that there's no rape in Grand Theft Auto IV. He doesn't know about I through III because he doesn't own them. I'm sure there's plenty of violence. Liz > > > BTW- I heard that Grand Theft Auto you get points for raping a woman and killing people very violently. Is this true? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2008 Report Share Posted June 24, 2008 Sharrie, I would love to hear more about your work with the autistic girl. Can you tell us what you were training and how she responded? Thanks! > > The person does NOT need to " pay attention " to anything necessarily. I had a 5yo female severely autistic. She couldn't pay attention even if she wanted to. She couldn't even respond to her name. She had NO eye contact. (I did a brief case study on her if your interested in it.) This adorable little girl was oblivious to the world. To me (and to her mother) NFB was a Godsend, a miracle if you will. If ever you didn't think the NFB worked after seeing what NFB has done for would drop your chin to the floor. And believe me she did not pay attention!!!!!! (remember this is a subconscious act NOT a conscious act). > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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