Re: Can we have a discussion about thyroid?

[Guest guest]

lab results pre pregnancy? during medication? I have loads

>

> Hi guys,

>

> I have been researching thyroid the last while as it's tied up with

the

> adrenal function.

>

> There are two features of autism recongized by mainstream medicine,

one

> is a smaller than average amygdala and dysfunctional serotonin

metabolism.

> Well apparently the thyroid governs the serotonin metabolism and

just

> this morning I found an abstract on rats suggesting that a small

> amygdala is related to low T3. Also I have spent the last weeks on

a

> thyroid list and interestingly enough they report low ferritin in

cases

> of hypothyroid. I think I have seen a lot of posts on our lists

> discussing low ferritin. Again on the same thyroid list they

recommend

> increasing adrenal strength before fixing the thyroid. And another

> thing, Dr. Woody McGinnis long ago noticed that the moms of

children

> with ASD were often estrogen rich. I think this could tie up with a

> faulty thyroid also. I definately had hypothyroidism after my

> pregnancy. Have no idea if I had it before hand.....

>

> Soo, I was wondering if hypothyroidism is common in children with

autism

> and the moms

>

> Do any of you have lab tests showing free T4 and free T3 levels.

There

> is a lot of controversy regarding the best levels of these two

> parameters in terms of a healthy thyroid. What interests me is

whether

> T4 is being converted to T3. For this conversion selenium and

iodine is

> neccessary. I doubt whether any of us got enough iodine during our

> pregnancies as we were told NOT to eat salt, the main source for

iodine.

>

> If you have any thyroid lab results at all, maybe you could share

these

> with us.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

lab results pre pregnancy? during medication? I have loads

>

> Hi guys,

>

> I have been researching thyroid the last while as it's tied up with

the

> adrenal function.

>

> There are two features of autism recongized by mainstream medicine,

one

> is a smaller than average amygdala and dysfunctional serotonin

metabolism.

> Well apparently the thyroid governs the serotonin metabolism and

just

> this morning I found an abstract on rats suggesting that a small

> amygdala is related to low T3. Also I have spent the last weeks on

a

> thyroid list and interestingly enough they report low ferritin in

cases

> of hypothyroid. I think I have seen a lot of posts on our lists

> discussing low ferritin. Again on the same thyroid list they

recommend

> increasing adrenal strength before fixing the thyroid. And another

> thing, Dr. Woody McGinnis long ago noticed that the moms of

children

> with ASD were often estrogen rich. I think this could tie up with a

> faulty thyroid also. I definately had hypothyroidism after my

> pregnancy. Have no idea if I had it before hand.....

>

> Soo, I was wondering if hypothyroidism is common in children with

autism

> and the moms

>

> Do any of you have lab tests showing free T4 and free T3 levels.

There

> is a lot of controversy regarding the best levels of these two

> parameters in terms of a healthy thyroid. What interests me is

whether

> T4 is being converted to T3. For this conversion selenium and

iodine is

> neccessary. I doubt whether any of us got enough iodine during our

> pregnancies as we were told NOT to eat salt, the main source for

iodine.

>

> If you have any thyroid lab results at all, maybe you could share

these

> with us.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

lab results pre pregnancy? during medication? I have loads

>

> Hi guys,

>

> I have been researching thyroid the last while as it's tied up with

the

> adrenal function.

>

> There are two features of autism recongized by mainstream medicine,

one

> is a smaller than average amygdala and dysfunctional serotonin

metabolism.

> Well apparently the thyroid governs the serotonin metabolism and

just

> this morning I found an abstract on rats suggesting that a small

> amygdala is related to low T3. Also I have spent the last weeks on

a

> thyroid list and interestingly enough they report low ferritin in

cases

> of hypothyroid. I think I have seen a lot of posts on our lists

> discussing low ferritin. Again on the same thyroid list they

recommend

> increasing adrenal strength before fixing the thyroid. And another

> thing, Dr. Woody McGinnis long ago noticed that the moms of

children

> with ASD were often estrogen rich. I think this could tie up with a

> faulty thyroid also. I definately had hypothyroidism after my

> pregnancy. Have no idea if I had it before hand.....

>

> Soo, I was wondering if hypothyroidism is common in children with

autism

> and the moms

>

> Do any of you have lab tests showing free T4 and free T3 levels.

There

> is a lot of controversy regarding the best levels of these two

> parameters in terms of a healthy thyroid. What interests me is

whether

> T4 is being converted to T3. For this conversion selenium and

iodine is

> neccessary. I doubt whether any of us got enough iodine during our

> pregnancies as we were told NOT to eat salt, the main source for

iodine.

>

> If you have any thyroid lab results at all, maybe you could share

these

> with us.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Vicki,

Do you have the actual lab measures for your borderline thyroid? Also

what prompted the testing as it is not always routine.

I am not yet sure what the definition of estrogen rich is but I will at

some time :-))

MaddiganV@... schrieb:

>

> My most recent thyroid test a good 6 months ago was borderline, no

> more information than that I'm afraid, but apparently have oestrogen

> levels of a 20 yr old! Sadly not the face or figure to match lol.

> Is that what you mean by Oestrogen rich? Re test couldn't be done on

> thyroid as no one was able to get another vein, will have another go

> in the new year.

> 's clinical Psyche mentioned the amygdala in reference to OCD.

> Vicky

>

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[Guest guest]

Vicki,

Do you have the actual lab measures for your borderline thyroid? Also

what prompted the testing as it is not always routine.

I am not yet sure what the definition of estrogen rich is but I will at

some time :-))

MaddiganV@... schrieb:

>

> My most recent thyroid test a good 6 months ago was borderline, no

> more information than that I'm afraid, but apparently have oestrogen

> levels of a 20 yr old! Sadly not the face or figure to match lol.

> Is that what you mean by Oestrogen rich? Re test couldn't be done on

> thyroid as no one was able to get another vein, will have another go

> in the new year.

> 's clinical Psyche mentioned the amygdala in reference to OCD.

> Vicky

>

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[Guest guest]

Vicki,

Do you have the actual lab measures for your borderline thyroid? Also

what prompted the testing as it is not always routine.

I am not yet sure what the definition of estrogen rich is but I will at

some time :-))

MaddiganV@... schrieb:

>

> My most recent thyroid test a good 6 months ago was borderline, no

> more information than that I'm afraid, but apparently have oestrogen

> levels of a 20 yr old! Sadly not the face or figure to match lol.

> Is that what you mean by Oestrogen rich? Re test couldn't be done on

> thyroid as no one was able to get another vein, will have another go

> in the new year.

> 's clinical Psyche mentioned the amygdala in reference to OCD.

> Vicky

>

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>

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[Guest guest]

> My most recent thyroid test a good 6 months ago was borderline, no

more

> information than that I'm afraid, but apparently have oestrogen

levels of a 20 yr

> old! Sadly not the face or figure to match lol.

Hahaha, Vicky you just made me splutter my coffee all over my laptop,

so funny! Hope is doing better now, how are things? I have not

been posting much recently so am all out of the swing of things, and

hows ?

Luv caroline

xx

[Guest guest]

> My most recent thyroid test a good 6 months ago was borderline, no

more

> information than that I'm afraid, but apparently have oestrogen

levels of a 20 yr

> old! Sadly not the face or figure to match lol.

Hahaha, Vicky you just made me splutter my coffee all over my laptop,

so funny! Hope is doing better now, how are things? I have not

been posting much recently so am all out of the swing of things, and

hows ?

Luv caroline

xx

[Guest guest]

> My most recent thyroid test a good 6 months ago was borderline, no

more

> information than that I'm afraid, but apparently have oestrogen

levels of a 20 yr

> old! Sadly not the face or figure to match lol.

Hahaha, Vicky you just made me splutter my coffee all over my laptop,

so funny! Hope is doing better now, how are things? I have not

been posting much recently so am all out of the swing of things, and

hows ?

Luv caroline

xx

[Guest guest]

just a couple of add ons, in blue type

nx

Hi guys,

I have been researching thyroid the last while as it's tied up with the

adrenal function.

There are two features of autism recongized by mainstream medicine, one

is a smaller than average amygdala and

dysfunctional serotonin metabolism. ------this is very likely also linked to inflammation – interferon gamma and IDO-induced excessive tryptophan degradation

Well apparently the thyroid governs the serotonin metabolism and just

this morning I found an abstract on rats suggesting that a small

amygdala is related to low T3. Also I have spent the last weeks on a

thyroid list and interestingly enough they report low ferritin in cases

of hypothyroid. I think I have seen a lot of posts on our lists

discussing low ferritin. Again on the same thyroid list they recommend

increasing adrenal strength before fixing the thyroid. And another

thing, Dr. Woody McGinnis long ago noticed that the moms of children

with ASD were often estrogen rich. I think this could tie up with a

faulty thyroid also. I definately had hypothyroidism after my

pregnancy. Have no idea if I had it before hand.....

Soo, I was wondering if hypothyroidism is common in children with autism

and the moms

--------yes, but so is hypertyroid and also autoimmunity to tyroid

Do any of you have lab tests showing free T4 and free T3 levels. There

is a lot of controversy regarding the best levels of these two

parameters in terms of a healthy thyroid. What interests me is whether

T4 is being converted to T3. For this conversion selenium and iodine is

neccessary. I doubt whether any of us got enough iodine during our

pregnancies as we were told NOT to eat salt, the main source for iodine.

If you have any thyroid lab results at all, maybe you could share these

with us.

------------------------------------

DISCLAIMER

No information contained in this post is to be construed as medical advice. If you need medical advice, please seek it from a suitably qualified practitioner.

[Guest guest]

just a couple of add ons, in blue type

nx

Hi guys,

I have been researching thyroid the last while as it's tied up with the

adrenal function.

There are two features of autism recongized by mainstream medicine, one

is a smaller than average amygdala and

dysfunctional serotonin metabolism. ------this is very likely also linked to inflammation – interferon gamma and IDO-induced excessive tryptophan degradation

Well apparently the thyroid governs the serotonin metabolism and just

this morning I found an abstract on rats suggesting that a small

amygdala is related to low T3. Also I have spent the last weeks on a

thyroid list and interestingly enough they report low ferritin in cases

of hypothyroid. I think I have seen a lot of posts on our lists

discussing low ferritin. Again on the same thyroid list they recommend

increasing adrenal strength before fixing the thyroid. And another

thing, Dr. Woody McGinnis long ago noticed that the moms of children

with ASD were often estrogen rich. I think this could tie up with a

faulty thyroid also. I definately had hypothyroidism after my

pregnancy. Have no idea if I had it before hand.....

Soo, I was wondering if hypothyroidism is common in children with autism

and the moms

--------yes, but so is hypertyroid and also autoimmunity to tyroid

Do any of you have lab tests showing free T4 and free T3 levels. There

is a lot of controversy regarding the best levels of these two

parameters in terms of a healthy thyroid. What interests me is whether

T4 is being converted to T3. For this conversion selenium and iodine is

neccessary. I doubt whether any of us got enough iodine during our

pregnancies as we were told NOT to eat salt, the main source for iodine.

If you have any thyroid lab results at all, maybe you could share these

with us.

------------------------------------

DISCLAIMER

No information contained in this post is to be construed as medical advice. If you need medical advice, please seek it from a suitably qualified practitioner.

[Guest guest]

just a couple of add ons, in blue type

nx

Hi guys,

I have been researching thyroid the last while as it's tied up with the

adrenal function.

There are two features of autism recongized by mainstream medicine, one

is a smaller than average amygdala and

dysfunctional serotonin metabolism. ------this is very likely also linked to inflammation – interferon gamma and IDO-induced excessive tryptophan degradation

Well apparently the thyroid governs the serotonin metabolism and just

this morning I found an abstract on rats suggesting that a small

amygdala is related to low T3. Also I have spent the last weeks on a

thyroid list and interestingly enough they report low ferritin in cases

of hypothyroid. I think I have seen a lot of posts on our lists

discussing low ferritin. Again on the same thyroid list they recommend

increasing adrenal strength before fixing the thyroid. And another

thing, Dr. Woody McGinnis long ago noticed that the moms of children

with ASD were often estrogen rich. I think this could tie up with a

faulty thyroid also. I definately had hypothyroidism after my

pregnancy. Have no idea if I had it before hand.....

Soo, I was wondering if hypothyroidism is common in children with autism

and the moms

--------yes, but so is hypertyroid and also autoimmunity to tyroid

Do any of you have lab tests showing free T4 and free T3 levels. There

is a lot of controversy regarding the best levels of these two

parameters in terms of a healthy thyroid. What interests me is whether

T4 is being converted to T3. For this conversion selenium and iodine is

neccessary. I doubt whether any of us got enough iodine during our

pregnancies as we were told NOT to eat salt, the main source for iodine.

If you have any thyroid lab results at all, maybe you could share these

with us.

------------------------------------

DISCLAIMER

No information contained in this post is to be construed as medical advice. If you need medical advice, please seek it from a suitably qualified practitioner.

[Guest guest]

Hi

We had a TSH fT4 and fT3 test done back in August for my then 5 yr old

actually my 1st question on this list was regarding his thyroid.

One thing that should be checked with the labs is that they use the

correct ref. range they usually use an adult ref. range for kids and

the docs forget to ask this, this was the case with my son although I

did manage to find the correct range for fT3 which I was most

concerned about as I believe that fT3 for children should be in the

upper half of the appropriate ref. range for proper brain

development. His hair test also suggested that he was producing huge

amounts of adrenaline so I think you're right the two (thyroid and

drenals)often go hand in hand. His ferretin levels was also quite low.

I believe that selenium, zinc and iron are important for fT4

conversion to fT3 but would definitely caution against iron

supplementation.

Cheers

Kenny

> Hi guys,

>

> I have been researching thyroid the last while as it's tied up with

the

> adrenal function.

>

> There are two features of autism recongized by mainstream medicine,

one

> is a smaller than average amygdala and dysfunctional serotonin

metabolism.

> Well apparently the thyroid governs the serotonin metabolism and

just

> this morning I found an abstract on rats suggesting that a small

> amygdala is related to low T3. Also I have spent the last weeks on

a

> thyroid list and interestingly enough they report low ferritin in

cases

> of hypothyroid. I think I have seen a lot of posts on our lists

> discussing low ferritin. Again on the same thyroid list they

recommend

> increasing adrenal strength before fixing the thyroid. And another

> thing, Dr. Woody McGinnis long ago noticed that the moms of

children

> with ASD were often estrogen rich. I think this could tie up with a

> faulty thyroid also. I definately had hypothyroidism after my

> pregnancy. Have no idea if I had it before hand.....

>

> Soo, I was wondering if hypothyroidism is common in children with

autism

> and the moms

>

> Do any of you have lab tests showing free T4 and free T3 levels.

There

> is a lot of controversy regarding the best levels of these two

> parameters in terms of a healthy thyroid. What interests me is

whether

> T4 is being converted to T3. For this conversion selenium and

iodine is

> neccessary. I doubt whether any of us got enough iodine during our

> pregnancies as we were told NOT to eat salt, the main source for

iodine.

>

> If you have any thyroid lab results at all, maybe you could share

these

> with us.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi

We had a TSH fT4 and fT3 test done back in August for my then 5 yr old

actually my 1st question on this list was regarding his thyroid.

One thing that should be checked with the labs is that they use the

correct ref. range they usually use an adult ref. range for kids and

the docs forget to ask this, this was the case with my son although I

did manage to find the correct range for fT3 which I was most

concerned about as I believe that fT3 for children should be in the

upper half of the appropriate ref. range for proper brain

development. His hair test also suggested that he was producing huge

amounts of adrenaline so I think you're right the two (thyroid and

drenals)often go hand in hand. His ferretin levels was also quite low.

I believe that selenium, zinc and iron are important for fT4

conversion to fT3 but would definitely caution against iron

supplementation.

Cheers

Kenny

> Hi guys,

>

> I have been researching thyroid the last while as it's tied up with

the

> adrenal function.

>

> There are two features of autism recongized by mainstream medicine,

one

> is a smaller than average amygdala and dysfunctional serotonin

metabolism.

> Well apparently the thyroid governs the serotonin metabolism and

just

> this morning I found an abstract on rats suggesting that a small

> amygdala is related to low T3. Also I have spent the last weeks on

a

> thyroid list and interestingly enough they report low ferritin in

cases

> of hypothyroid. I think I have seen a lot of posts on our lists

> discussing low ferritin. Again on the same thyroid list they

recommend

> increasing adrenal strength before fixing the thyroid. And another

> thing, Dr. Woody McGinnis long ago noticed that the moms of

children

> with ASD were often estrogen rich. I think this could tie up with a

> faulty thyroid also. I definately had hypothyroidism after my

> pregnancy. Have no idea if I had it before hand.....

>

> Soo, I was wondering if hypothyroidism is common in children with

autism

> and the moms

>

> Do any of you have lab tests showing free T4 and free T3 levels.

There

> is a lot of controversy regarding the best levels of these two

> parameters in terms of a healthy thyroid. What interests me is

whether

> T4 is being converted to T3. For this conversion selenium and

iodine is

> neccessary. I doubt whether any of us got enough iodine during our

> pregnancies as we were told NOT to eat salt, the main source for

iodine.

>

> If you have any thyroid lab results at all, maybe you could share

these

> with us.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi

We had a TSH fT4 and fT3 test done back in August for my then 5 yr old

actually my 1st question on this list was regarding his thyroid.

One thing that should be checked with the labs is that they use the

correct ref. range they usually use an adult ref. range for kids and

the docs forget to ask this, this was the case with my son although I

did manage to find the correct range for fT3 which I was most

concerned about as I believe that fT3 for children should be in the

upper half of the appropriate ref. range for proper brain

development. His hair test also suggested that he was producing huge

amounts of adrenaline so I think you're right the two (thyroid and

drenals)often go hand in hand. His ferretin levels was also quite low.

I believe that selenium, zinc and iron are important for fT4

conversion to fT3 but would definitely caution against iron

supplementation.

Cheers

Kenny

> Hi guys,

>

> I have been researching thyroid the last while as it's tied up with

the

> adrenal function.

>

> There are two features of autism recongized by mainstream medicine,

one

> is a smaller than average amygdala and dysfunctional serotonin

metabolism.

> Well apparently the thyroid governs the serotonin metabolism and

just

> this morning I found an abstract on rats suggesting that a small

> amygdala is related to low T3. Also I have spent the last weeks on

a

> thyroid list and interestingly enough they report low ferritin in

cases

> of hypothyroid. I think I have seen a lot of posts on our lists

> discussing low ferritin. Again on the same thyroid list they

recommend

> increasing adrenal strength before fixing the thyroid. And another

> thing, Dr. Woody McGinnis long ago noticed that the moms of

children

> with ASD were often estrogen rich. I think this could tie up with a

> faulty thyroid also. I definately had hypothyroidism after my

> pregnancy. Have no idea if I had it before hand.....

>

> Soo, I was wondering if hypothyroidism is common in children with

autism

> and the moms

>

> Do any of you have lab tests showing free T4 and free T3 levels.

There

> is a lot of controversy regarding the best levels of these two

> parameters in terms of a healthy thyroid. What interests me is

whether

> T4 is being converted to T3. For this conversion selenium and

iodine is

> neccessary. I doubt whether any of us got enough iodine during our

> pregnancies as we were told NOT to eat salt, the main source for

iodine.

>

> If you have any thyroid lab results at all, maybe you could share

these

> with us.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, I get nervous about people supplementing with iron. I haven't

researched it myself but the medical doctor who ran the naturopathic

school I went to in Germany drummed it on us that iron appears to fuel

cancer. Don't know why as I haven't had time to look into this.

k.ozbo schrieb:

>

>

> Hi

>

> We had a TSH fT4 and fT3 test done back in August for my then 5 yr old

> actually my 1st question on this list was regarding his thyroid.

> One thing that should be checked with the labs is that they use the

> correct ref. range they usually use an adult ref. range for kids and

> the docs forget to ask this, this was the case with my son although I

> did manage to find the correct range for fT3 which I was most

> concerned about as I believe that fT3 for children should be in the

> upper half of the appropriate ref. range for proper brain

> development. His hair test also suggested that he was producing huge

> amounts of adrenaline so I think you're right the two (thyroid and

> drenals)often go hand in hand. His ferretin levels was also quite low.

> I believe that selenium, zinc and iron are important for fT4

> conversion to fT3 but would definitely caution against iron

> supplementation.

>

> Cheers

> Kenny

>

> > Hi guys,

> >

> > I have been researching thyroid the last while as it's tied up with

> the

> > adrenal function.

> >

> > There are two features of autism recongized by mainstream medicine,

> one

> > is a smaller than average amygdala and dysfunctional serotonin

> metabolism.

> > Well apparently the thyroid governs the serotonin metabolism and

> just

> > this morning I found an abstract on rats suggesting that a small

> > amygdala is related to low T3. Also I have spent the last weeks on

> a

> > thyroid list and interestingly enough they report low ferritin in

> cases

> > of hypothyroid. I think I have seen a lot of posts on our lists

> > discussing low ferritin. Again on the same thyroid list they

> recommend

> > increasing adrenal strength before fixing the thyroid. And another

> > thing, Dr. Woody McGinnis long ago noticed that the moms of

> children

> > with ASD were often estrogen rich. I think this could tie up with a

> > faulty thyroid also. I definately had hypothyroidism after my

> > pregnancy. Have no idea if I had it before hand.....

> >

> > Soo, I was wondering if hypothyroidism is common in children with

> autism

> > and the moms

> >

> > Do any of you have lab tests showing free T4 and free T3 levels.

> There

> > is a lot of controversy regarding the best levels of these two

> > parameters in terms of a healthy thyroid. What interests me is

> whether

> > T4 is being converted to T3. For this conversion selenium and

> iodine is

> > neccessary. I doubt whether any of us got enough iodine during our

> > pregnancies as we were told NOT to eat salt, the main source for

> iodine.

> >

> > If you have any thyroid lab results at all, maybe you could share

> these

> > with us.

> >

> >

> >

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Yes, I get nervous about people supplementing with iron. I haven't

researched it myself but the medical doctor who ran the naturopathic

school I went to in Germany drummed it on us that iron appears to fuel

cancer. Don't know why as I haven't had time to look into this.

k.ozbo schrieb:

>

>

> Hi

>

> We had a TSH fT4 and fT3 test done back in August for my then 5 yr old

> actually my 1st question on this list was regarding his thyroid.

> One thing that should be checked with the labs is that they use the

> correct ref. range they usually use an adult ref. range for kids and

> the docs forget to ask this, this was the case with my son although I

> did manage to find the correct range for fT3 which I was most

> concerned about as I believe that fT3 for children should be in the

> upper half of the appropriate ref. range for proper brain

> development. His hair test also suggested that he was producing huge

> amounts of adrenaline so I think you're right the two (thyroid and

> drenals)often go hand in hand. His ferretin levels was also quite low.

> I believe that selenium, zinc and iron are important for fT4

> conversion to fT3 but would definitely caution against iron

> supplementation.

>

> Cheers

> Kenny

>

> > Hi guys,

> >

> > I have been researching thyroid the last while as it's tied up with

> the

> > adrenal function.

> >

> > There are two features of autism recongized by mainstream medicine,

> one

> > is a smaller than average amygdala and dysfunctional serotonin

> metabolism.

> > Well apparently the thyroid governs the serotonin metabolism and

> just

> > this morning I found an abstract on rats suggesting that a small

> > amygdala is related to low T3. Also I have spent the last weeks on

> a

> > thyroid list and interestingly enough they report low ferritin in

> cases

> > of hypothyroid. I think I have seen a lot of posts on our lists

> > discussing low ferritin. Again on the same thyroid list they

> recommend

> > increasing adrenal strength before fixing the thyroid. And another

> > thing, Dr. Woody McGinnis long ago noticed that the moms of

> children

> > with ASD were often estrogen rich. I think this could tie up with a

> > faulty thyroid also. I definately had hypothyroidism after my

> > pregnancy. Have no idea if I had it before hand.....

> >

> > Soo, I was wondering if hypothyroidism is common in children with

> autism

> > and the moms

> >

> > Do any of you have lab tests showing free T4 and free T3 levels.

> There

> > is a lot of controversy regarding the best levels of these two

> > parameters in terms of a healthy thyroid. What interests me is

> whether

> > T4 is being converted to T3. For this conversion selenium and

> iodine is

> > neccessary. I doubt whether any of us got enough iodine during our

> > pregnancies as we were told NOT to eat salt, the main source for

> iodine.

> >

> > If you have any thyroid lab results at all, maybe you could share

> these

> > with us.

> >

> >

> >

>

>

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>

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[Guest guest]

Yes, I get nervous about people supplementing with iron. I haven't

researched it myself but the medical doctor who ran the naturopathic

school I went to in Germany drummed it on us that iron appears to fuel

cancer. Don't know why as I haven't had time to look into this.

k.ozbo schrieb:

>

>

> Hi

>

> We had a TSH fT4 and fT3 test done back in August for my then 5 yr old

> actually my 1st question on this list was regarding his thyroid.

> One thing that should be checked with the labs is that they use the

> correct ref. range they usually use an adult ref. range for kids and

> the docs forget to ask this, this was the case with my son although I

> did manage to find the correct range for fT3 which I was most

> concerned about as I believe that fT3 for children should be in the

> upper half of the appropriate ref. range for proper brain

> development. His hair test also suggested that he was producing huge

> amounts of adrenaline so I think you're right the two (thyroid and

> drenals)often go hand in hand. His ferretin levels was also quite low.

> I believe that selenium, zinc and iron are important for fT4

> conversion to fT3 but would definitely caution against iron

> supplementation.

>

> Cheers

> Kenny

>

> > Hi guys,

> >

> > I have been researching thyroid the last while as it's tied up with

> the

> > adrenal function.

> >

> > There are two features of autism recongized by mainstream medicine,

> one

> > is a smaller than average amygdala and dysfunctional serotonin

> metabolism.

> > Well apparently the thyroid governs the serotonin metabolism and

> just

> > this morning I found an abstract on rats suggesting that a small

> > amygdala is related to low T3. Also I have spent the last weeks on

> a

> > thyroid list and interestingly enough they report low ferritin in

> cases

> > of hypothyroid. I think I have seen a lot of posts on our lists

> > discussing low ferritin. Again on the same thyroid list they

> recommend

> > increasing adrenal strength before fixing the thyroid. And another

> > thing, Dr. Woody McGinnis long ago noticed that the moms of

> children

> > with ASD were often estrogen rich. I think this could tie up with a

> > faulty thyroid also. I definately had hypothyroidism after my

> > pregnancy. Have no idea if I had it before hand.....

> >

> > Soo, I was wondering if hypothyroidism is common in children with

> autism

> > and the moms

> >

> > Do any of you have lab tests showing free T4 and free T3 levels.

> There

> > is a lot of controversy regarding the best levels of these two

> > parameters in terms of a healthy thyroid. What interests me is

> whether

> > T4 is being converted to T3. For this conversion selenium and

> iodine is

> > neccessary. I doubt whether any of us got enough iodine during our

> > pregnancies as we were told NOT to eat salt, the main source for

> iodine.

> >

> > If you have any thyroid lab results at all, maybe you could share

> these

> > with us.

> >

> >

> >

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi

I was tested for low thyroid about 6 months ago. Not sure of the

score but was told it was 'low side of normal'. Reason I had it

checked was cos I ticked all of the symptom boxes.

Helen x

>

> Hi guys,

>

> I have been researching thyroid the last while as it's tied up with

the

> adrenal function.

>

> There are two features of autism recongized by mainstream medicine,

one

> is a smaller than average amygdala and dysfunctional serotonin

metabolism.

> Well apparently the thyroid governs the serotonin metabolism and

just

> this morning I found an abstract on rats suggesting that a small

> amygdala is related to low T3. Also I have spent the last weeks on

a

> thyroid list and interestingly enough they report low ferritin in

cases

> of hypothyroid. I think I have seen a lot of posts on our lists

> discussing low ferritin. Again on the same thyroid list they

recommend

> increasing adrenal strength before fixing the thyroid. And another

> thing, Dr. Woody McGinnis long ago noticed that the moms of

children

> with ASD were often estrogen rich. I think this could tie up with a

> faulty thyroid also. I definately had hypothyroidism after my

> pregnancy. Have no idea if I had it before hand.....

>

> Soo, I was wondering if hypothyroidism is common in children with

autism

> and the moms

>

> Do any of you have lab tests showing free T4 and free T3 levels.

There

> is a lot of controversy regarding the best levels of these two

> parameters in terms of a healthy thyroid. What interests me is

whether

> T4 is being converted to T3. For this conversion selenium and

iodine is

> neccessary. I doubt whether any of us got enough iodine during our

> pregnancies as we were told NOT to eat salt, the main source for

iodine.

>

> If you have any thyroid lab results at all, maybe you could share

these

> with us.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi

I was tested for low thyroid about 6 months ago. Not sure of the

score but was told it was 'low side of normal'. Reason I had it

checked was cos I ticked all of the symptom boxes.

Helen x

>

> Hi guys,

>

> I have been researching thyroid the last while as it's tied up with

the

> adrenal function.

>

> There are two features of autism recongized by mainstream medicine,

one

> is a smaller than average amygdala and dysfunctional serotonin

metabolism.

> Well apparently the thyroid governs the serotonin metabolism and

just

> this morning I found an abstract on rats suggesting that a small

> amygdala is related to low T3. Also I have spent the last weeks on

a

> thyroid list and interestingly enough they report low ferritin in

cases

> of hypothyroid. I think I have seen a lot of posts on our lists

> discussing low ferritin. Again on the same thyroid list they

recommend

> increasing adrenal strength before fixing the thyroid. And another

> thing, Dr. Woody McGinnis long ago noticed that the moms of

children

> with ASD were often estrogen rich. I think this could tie up with a

> faulty thyroid also. I definately had hypothyroidism after my

> pregnancy. Have no idea if I had it before hand.....

>

> Soo, I was wondering if hypothyroidism is common in children with

autism

> and the moms

>

> Do any of you have lab tests showing free T4 and free T3 levels.

There

> is a lot of controversy regarding the best levels of these two

> parameters in terms of a healthy thyroid. What interests me is

whether

> T4 is being converted to T3. For this conversion selenium and

iodine is

> neccessary. I doubt whether any of us got enough iodine during our

> pregnancies as we were told NOT to eat salt, the main source for

iodine.

>

> If you have any thyroid lab results at all, maybe you could share

these

> with us.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hi

I was tested for low thyroid about 6 months ago. Not sure of the

score but was told it was 'low side of normal'. Reason I had it

checked was cos I ticked all of the symptom boxes.

Helen x

>

> Hi guys,

>

> I have been researching thyroid the last while as it's tied up with

the

> adrenal function.

>

> There are two features of autism recongized by mainstream medicine,

one

> is a smaller than average amygdala and dysfunctional serotonin

metabolism.

> Well apparently the thyroid governs the serotonin metabolism and

just

> this morning I found an abstract on rats suggesting that a small

> amygdala is related to low T3. Also I have spent the last weeks on

a

> thyroid list and interestingly enough they report low ferritin in

cases

> of hypothyroid. I think I have seen a lot of posts on our lists

> discussing low ferritin. Again on the same thyroid list they

recommend

> increasing adrenal strength before fixing the thyroid. And another

> thing, Dr. Woody McGinnis long ago noticed that the moms of

children

> with ASD were often estrogen rich. I think this could tie up with a

> faulty thyroid also. I definately had hypothyroidism after my

> pregnancy. Have no idea if I had it before hand.....

>

> Soo, I was wondering if hypothyroidism is common in children with

autism

> and the moms

>

> Do any of you have lab tests showing free T4 and free T3 levels.

There

> is a lot of controversy regarding the best levels of these two

> parameters in terms of a healthy thyroid. What interests me is

whether

> T4 is being converted to T3. For this conversion selenium and

iodine is

> neccessary. I doubt whether any of us got enough iodine during our

> pregnancies as we were told NOT to eat salt, the main source for

iodine.

>

> If you have any thyroid lab results at all, maybe you could share

these

> with us.

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Was the T3 specifically low side of normal? What about your child's

thyroid T3?

helenco68 schrieb:

>

>

> Hi

>

> I was tested for low thyroid about 6 months ago. Not sure of the

> score but was told it was 'low side of normal'. Reason I had it

> checked was cos I ticked all of the symptom boxes.

>

> Helen x

>

>

> >

> > Hi guys,

> >

> > I have been researching thyroid the last while as it's tied up with

> the

> > adrenal function.

> >

> > There are two features of autism recongized by mainstream medicine,

> one

> > is a smaller than average amygdala and dysfunctional serotonin

> metabolism.

> > Well apparently the thyroid governs the serotonin metabolism and

> just

> > this morning I found an abstract on rats suggesting that a small

> > amygdala is related to low T3. Also I have spent the last weeks on

> a

> > thyroid list and interestingly enough they report low ferritin in

> cases

> > of hypothyroid. I think I have seen a lot of posts on our lists

> > discussing low ferritin. Again on the same thyroid list they

> recommend

> > increasing adrenal strength before fixing the thyroid. And another

> > thing, Dr. Woody McGinnis long ago noticed that the moms of

> children

> > with ASD were often estrogen rich. I think this could tie up with a

> > faulty thyroid also. I definately had hypothyroidism after my

> > pregnancy. Have no idea if I had it before hand.....

> >

> > Soo, I was wondering if hypothyroidism is common in children with

> autism

> > and the moms

> >

> > Do any of you have lab tests showing free T4 and free T3 levels.

> There

> > is a lot of controversy regarding the best levels of these two

> > parameters in terms of a healthy thyroid. What interests me is

> whether

> > T4 is being converted to T3. For this conversion selenium and

> iodine is

> > neccessary. I doubt whether any of us got enough iodine during our

> > pregnancies as we were told NOT to eat salt, the main source for

> iodine.

> >

> > If you have any thyroid lab results at all, maybe you could share

> these

> > with us.

> >

> >

> >

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Was the T3 specifically low side of normal? What about your child's

thyroid T3?

helenco68 schrieb:

>

>

> Hi

>

> I was tested for low thyroid about 6 months ago. Not sure of the

> score but was told it was 'low side of normal'. Reason I had it

> checked was cos I ticked all of the symptom boxes.

>

> Helen x

>

>

> >

> > Hi guys,

> >

> > I have been researching thyroid the last while as it's tied up with

> the

> > adrenal function.

> >

> > There are two features of autism recongized by mainstream medicine,

> one

> > is a smaller than average amygdala and dysfunctional serotonin

> metabolism.

> > Well apparently the thyroid governs the serotonin metabolism and

> just

> > this morning I found an abstract on rats suggesting that a small

> > amygdala is related to low T3. Also I have spent the last weeks on

> a

> > thyroid list and interestingly enough they report low ferritin in

> cases

> > of hypothyroid. I think I have seen a lot of posts on our lists

> > discussing low ferritin. Again on the same thyroid list they

> recommend

> > increasing adrenal strength before fixing the thyroid. And another

> > thing, Dr. Woody McGinnis long ago noticed that the moms of

> children

> > with ASD were often estrogen rich. I think this could tie up with a

> > faulty thyroid also. I definately had hypothyroidism after my

> > pregnancy. Have no idea if I had it before hand.....

> >

> > Soo, I was wondering if hypothyroidism is common in children with

> autism

> > and the moms

> >

> > Do any of you have lab tests showing free T4 and free T3 levels.

> There

> > is a lot of controversy regarding the best levels of these two

> > parameters in terms of a healthy thyroid. What interests me is

> whether

> > T4 is being converted to T3. For this conversion selenium and

> iodine is

> > neccessary. I doubt whether any of us got enough iodine during our

> > pregnancies as we were told NOT to eat salt, the main source for

> iodine.

> >

> > If you have any thyroid lab results at all, maybe you could share

> these

> > with us.

> >

> >

> >

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Just thinking about salt....... as far as I'm aware nearly all the table salt available in the UK now is not iodized like it used to be. Does anyone know when the iodized salt was phased out? Might it have had any impact on people's thyroid problems and the incidence of autism do you think?

The only iodized salt I've found recently was in Lidl.

Patience

Subject: Can we have a discussion about thyroid?To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe Date: Tuesday, 30 December, 2008, 2:36 PMHi guys,

I have been researching thyroid the last while as it's tied up with the adrenal function.

There are two features of autism recongized by mainstream medicine, one is a smaller than average amygdala and dysfunctional serotonin metabolism.

Well apparently the thyroid governs the serotonin metabolism and just this morning I found an abstract on rats suggesting that a small amygdala is related to low T3. Also I have spent the last weeks on a thyroid list and interestingly enough they report low ferritin in cases of hypothyroid. I think I have seen a lot of posts on our lists discussing low ferritin. Again on the same thyroid list they recommend increasing adrenal strength before fixing the thyroid. And another thing, Dr. Woody McGinnis long ago noticed that the moms of children with ASD were often estrogen rich. I think this could tie up with a faulty thyroid also. I definately had hypothyroidism after my pregnancy. Have no idea if I had it before hand.....

Soo, I was wondering if hypothyroidism is common in children with autism and the moms

Do any of you have lab tests showing free T4 and free T3 levels. There is a lot of controversy regarding the best levels of these two parameters in terms of a healthy thyroid. What interests me is whether T4 is being converted to T3. For this conversion selenium and iodine is neccessary. I doubt whether any of us got enough iodine during our pregnancies as we were told NOT to eat salt, the main source for iodine.

If you have any thyroid lab results at all, maybe you could share these with us.

------------------------------------

DISCLAIMER

No information contained in this post is to be construed as medical advice. If

you need medical advice, please seek it from a suitably qualified practitioner.

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Just thinking about salt....... as far as I'm aware nearly all the table salt available in the UK now is not iodized like it used to be. Does anyone know when the iodized salt was phased out? Might it have had any impact on people's thyroid problems and the incidence of autism do you think?

The only iodized salt I've found recently was in Lidl.

Patience

Subject: Can we have a discussion about thyroid?To: Autism-Biomedical-Europe Date: Tuesday, 30 December, 2008, 2:36 PMHi guys,

I have been researching thyroid the last while as it's tied up with the adrenal function.

There are two features of autism recongized by mainstream medicine, one is a smaller than average amygdala and dysfunctional serotonin metabolism.

Well apparently the thyroid governs the serotonin metabolism and just this morning I found an abstract on rats suggesting that a small amygdala is related to low T3. Also I have spent the last weeks on a thyroid list and interestingly enough they report low ferritin in cases of hypothyroid. I think I have seen a lot of posts on our lists discussing low ferritin. Again on the same thyroid list they recommend increasing adrenal strength before fixing the thyroid. And another thing, Dr. Woody McGinnis long ago noticed that the moms of children with ASD were often estrogen rich. I think this could tie up with a faulty thyroid also. I definately had hypothyroidism after my pregnancy. Have no idea if I had it before hand.....

Soo, I was wondering if hypothyroidism is common in children with autism and the moms

Do any of you have lab tests showing free T4 and free T3 levels. There is a lot of controversy regarding the best levels of these two parameters in terms of a healthy thyroid. What interests me is whether T4 is being converted to T3. For this conversion selenium and iodine is neccessary. I doubt whether any of us got enough iodine during our pregnancies as we were told NOT to eat salt, the main source for iodine.

If you have any thyroid lab results at all, maybe you could share these with us.

------------------------------------

DISCLAIMER

No information contained in this post is to be construed as medical advice. If

you need medical advice, please seek it from a suitably qualified practitioner.