Re: what to eat for gut flora

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This is really more of a food question than a medical question because it has to

do with eating/gut flora:

In a moment of weakness, I foolishly allowed myself to be talked into a round of

antibiotics for a " sinus infection " . Now, on day 3 of Amoxicillian, i am pretty

convinced i should never have started taking it! Now i am scared about what it

is going to do to my gut..... i do feel i need to finish this 10 day round.....

any helpful suggestions on diet would be appreciated.... the more detailed the

better!

patrice

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Patrice,

The short answer is that you will have to rebuild.

I probably would finish the antibiotic at this point, as you suggested, but

would start with probiotics right away.

Amoxicillin can be taken with or without food and is fine with dairy. To make it

easy, I would start drinking some kombucha or eating some yogurt or kefir each

time I took a dose.

Eat some fermented vegetables with your meals. It would be excellent if you

could make some beet kvass. You could consider purchasing a full spectrum

probiotic to take as directed on the bottle too.

You might also add some prebiotics to your diet, such as onions sauteed in lard,

coconut oil, or poultry fat. I do this at the first sign of something coming on

ala Dr. Natasha -McBride.

Chronic or recurrent sinus infections are a sign of imbalance that needs

correction. Come on over to

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/OptimalHealthConnection/ if you want to

discuss that further.

Also, I don't get them any more, but used to really find using neti-pot

beneficial for a sinus infection.

Kathy

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to do with eating/gut flora:

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> In a moment of weakness, I foolishly allowed myself to be talked into a round

of antibiotics for a " sinus infection " . Now, on day 3 of Amoxicillian, i am

pretty convinced i should never have started taking it! Now i am scared about

what it is going to do to my gut..... i do feel i need to finish this 10 day

round.....

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> any helpful suggestions on diet would be appreciated.... the more detailed the

better!

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> patrice

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I think that it's best to have your probiotics at least a couple

of hours after your antibiotics. Otherwise, the antibiotics will

just kill off the probiotics if you take them together. So if you

are supposed to take the antibiotics once a day, I would

take them in the morning and then do my probiotics before

bed. I would also keep doing lots of probiotics and a variety

of fermented foods long after I finished the antibiotics.

Good luck,

Therese in WI

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1. Probiotics

- Garden of Life's Primal Defense

or

- MegaFood DailyFoods™ MegaFlora

2. Kefir

3. Yogurt

4. Sour Kraut

5. Kimchi

6. Kombucha

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> This is really more of a food question than a medical question because it has

to do with eating/gut flora:

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> In a moment of weakness, I foolishly allowed myself to be talked into a round

of antibiotics for a " sinus infection " . Now, on day 3 of Amoxicillian, i am

pretty convinced i should never have started taking it! Now i am scared about

what it is going to do to my gut..... i do feel i need to finish this 10 day

round.....

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> any helpful suggestions on diet would be appreciated.... the more detailed the

better!

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> patrice

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Hi Therese!

I think that makes good common sense, in general. But it's probably important to

understand how each antibiotic works. They don't kill on contact (like Lysol or

bleach). They usually work by keeping the bacteria from reproducing in one way

or another.

Amoxicillin works by inhibiting the bacteria's ability to produce a cell wall

and therefore making it vulnerable to the immune system and therefore also

inhibiting reproduction.

I don't have information on exactly how this happens and how long it takes, but

would guess that the process peaks in 2-3 days, even though you have to continue

to taking it to make sure that a critical mass are killed off, so that you don't

get a reoccurrence.

It is supposed to target only the offending bacteria. But how could this be? My

strategy is to keep replenishing the good bacteria so that anything bad left

standing, never has a chance to take over.

I would accomplish this thru small, frequent doses.

Also, doing it with food (as long as it's not contraindicated) helps people

remember . It's one of the good ideas I learned in my nursing training. Because

who forgets to eat!?!

Of course, I feel anything, any way you do it, is only going to help.

This is an important subject that we all are so uninformed about.

I would welcome a debate about this or other thoughts or information on this.

Any other ideas?

Kathy

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If you take probiotics 3 hours after taking the antibiotic (every dose), it will

protect your gut while taking the meds. We did this with our dog who was being

treated with antibiotics for anaplasma (a tick borne disease) and his digestion

was not harmed. We gave him Theralac; available at Seward Coop or Northwestern

Health Sciences Univ. bookstore in Bloomington (off Penn Ave. South); made in

Plymouth so you know it's fresh; has 5 strains of probiotics and 2 prebiotics,

which feed the probiotics. We also take Theralac when needed. Also, if you

have been consuming the probiotic Lactobacillus Plantarum either in your

fermented foods or as a supplement, it will protect your gut because L.

Plantarum colonizes the gut and is not killed off by antibiotics.

[Guest guest]

Very good to know! Thanks for the info!

Kathy

[Guest guest]

Very good to know! Thanks for the info!

Kathy