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No -- the viragyt seems to be an anti-viral like Tamiflu. But I think

they may be similar because PubMed gives you both mixed in together?

Sally

Neno/Natasa wrote:

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> hi Sally, yes saw this and confused me... Searched a bit more and

> it seems that memantine and amantadine are NOT the same thing.

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> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memantine

> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memantine>

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> And autism. I guess that since it doesn't work for Alzheimers the

> pharmaceutical companies are casting round for a condition it

> might work for

> Sally

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I was thinking just that. I have a really nice GP. It won't be licensed

for children if it is thought of as being Alzheimers. I passed it onto

my brother to see if he thought it was a runner. Finding all theat

memantine stuff quite cheered me up. A glutamate antagonist sounds very

useful here. How's Luka? How's school?

Sally

Neno/Natasa wrote:

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> p.s. Memantine has some pretty convincing studies for autism. The

> type that a GP/PCT would have to fight hard to refuse rx :)

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> nx

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> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memantine

> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memantine>

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> And autism. I guess that since it doesn't work for Alzheimers the

> pharmaceutical companies are casting round for a condition it

> might work for

> Sally

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Well it costs me 90usd for 45 days supply. That might be a good

enough reason not to prescribe....!

j

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-- In Autism-Biomedical-Europe , Neno/Natasa

wrote:

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> >

> > p.s. Memantine has some pretty convincing studies for autism.

The type that a

> > GP/PCT would have to fight hard to refuse rx :)

> >

> >

> > nx

> >

> >

> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memantine

> >

> > And autism. I guess that since it doesn't work for Alzheimers the

> > pharmaceutical companies are casting round for a condition it

might work for

> > Sally

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The costs would stack up differently for older people with dementia

against young people with autism. Anything that could make our children

more independent would save a lot of money.

More pertinently, how useful is the memantine? By now, it was discovered

in 1968, it would be out of patent. Is it worth the money?

Sally

brownsauce66 wrote:

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> Well it costs me 90usd for 45 days supply. That might be a good

> enough reason not to prescribe....!

>

> j

> x

>

> -- In Autism-Biomedical-Europe

> <mailto:Autism-Biomedical-Europe%40yahoogroups.com>, Neno/Natasa

> wrote:

> >

> > >

> > > p.s. Memantine has some pretty convincing studies for autism.

> The type that a

> > > GP/PCT would have to fight hard to refuse rx :)

> > >

> > >

> > > nx

> > >

> > >

> > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memantine

> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memantine>

> > >

> > > And autism. I guess that since it doesn't work for Alzheimers the

> > > pharmaceutical companies are casting round for a condition it

> might work for

> > > Sally

> > >

> > >

> >

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For us, not sure if we've seen any big positives. We use it to help

block glutamates. Our reading from neurotransmitter testing was

glutamates at 104 (ref range 20-30)

jane

In Autism-Biomedical-Europe , Eva family

wrote:

>

> The costs would stack up differently for older people with dementia

> against young people with autism. Anything that could make our

children

> more independent would save a lot of money.

>

> More pertinently, how useful is the memantine? By now, it was

discovered

> in 1968, it would be out of patent. Is it worth the money?

>

> Sally

>

> brownsauce66 wrote:

> >

> > Well it costs me 90usd for 45 days supply. That might be a good

> > enough reason not to prescribe....!

> >

> > j

> > x

> >

> > -- In Autism-Biomedical-Europe

> > <mailto:Autism-Biomedical-Europe%40yahoogroups.com>, Neno/Natasa

> > <neno@> wrote:

> > >

> > > >

> > > > p.s. Memantine has some pretty convincing studies for autism.

> > The type that a

> > > > GP/PCT would have to fight hard to refuse rx :)

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > nx

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memantine

> > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memantine>

> > > >

> > > > And autism. I guess that since it doesn't work for Alzheimers

the

> > > > pharmaceutical companies are casting round for a condition it

> > might work for

> > > > Sally

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

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> > No virus found in this incoming message.

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28/10/2008 21:20

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How long have you been using it? Is it prescribed? It is a glutamate

blocker so the reasoning makes sense

Sally

brownsauce66 wrote:

>

> For us, not sure if we've seen any big positives. We use it to help

> block glutamates. Our reading from neurotransmitter testing was

> glutamates at 104 (ref range 20-30)

>

> jane

>

> In Autism-Biomedical-Europe

> <mailto:Autism-Biomedical-Europe%40yahoogroups.com>, Eva family

> wrote:

> >

> > The costs would stack up differently for older people with dementia

> > against young people with autism. Anything that could make our

> children

> > more independent would save a lot of money.

> >

> > More pertinently, how useful is the memantine? By now, it was

> discovered

> > in 1968, it would be out of patent. Is it worth the money?

> >

> > Sally

> >

> > brownsauce66 wrote:

> > >

> > > Well it costs me 90usd for 45 days supply. That might be a good

> > > enough reason not to prescribe....!

> > >

> > > j

> > > x

> > >

> > > -- In Autism-Biomedical-Europe

> <mailto:Autism-Biomedical-Europe%40yahoogroups.com>

> > > <mailto:Autism-Biomedical-Europe%40yahoogroups.com>, Neno/Natasa

> > > <neno@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > p.s. Memantine has some pretty convincing studies for autism.

> > > The type that a

> > > > > GP/PCT would have to fight hard to refuse rx :)

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > nx

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memantine

> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memantine>

> > > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memantine

> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memantine>>

> > > > >

> > > > > And autism. I guess that since it doesn't work for Alzheimers

> the

> > > > > pharmaceutical companies are casting round for a condition it

> > > might work for

> > > > > Sally

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ----------------------------------------------------------

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> > >

> > >

> > > No virus found in this incoming message.

> > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com>

> > > Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.8.4/1753 - Release Date:

> 28/10/2008 21:20

> > >

> > >

> >

>

>

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

>

>

> No virus found in this incoming message.

> Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com

> Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.8.4/1753 - Release Date: 28/10/2008

21:20

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Hi

We've been using it since June. But have recently (in last 3 weeks)

had the dose increased to 5mg per day. Too soon to tell i think.

We're also battling yeast and a couple of bacteria, including

klebsiellia (sp) that we always know is there cos of the fishy

smelling breath - nice! So DS is the king of flap at the moment. When

that's under control we may be able to tell.

DS not a responder really, seen no wows with anything. At 3 yrs 8 mos

no speech, or eye contact (started biomed at 20 mos) BUT has in the

last week or so been peeing in the loo (i blamed hubby for the mess

this until we heard the seat CRASH) this is amazing cos he trained

himself....

Jane

p.s Also, he did pick his nose last night and offer it to me to eat

(boogers being his all time fave snack, not sure what that says about

my cooking?) - very generous, but not sure if these

breakthroughs/milestones are to be celebrated.

-- In Autism-Biomedical-Europe , Eva family

wrote:

>

> How long have you been using it? Is it prescribed? It is a

glutamate

> blocker so the reasoning makes sense

> Sally

>

> brownsauce66 wrote:

> >

> > For us, not sure if we've seen any big positives. We use it to

help

> > block glutamates. Our reading from neurotransmitter testing was

> > glutamates at 104 (ref range 20-30)

> >

> > jane

> >

> > In Autism-Biomedical-Europe

> > <mailto:Autism-Biomedical-Europe%40yahoogroups.com>, Eva family

> > <bobsallyeva@> wrote:

> > >

> > > The costs would stack up differently for older people with

dementia

> > > against young people with autism. Anything that could make our

> > children

> > > more independent would save a lot of money.

> > >

> > > More pertinently, how useful is the memantine? By now, it was

> > discovered

> > > in 1968, it would be out of patent. Is it worth the money?

> > >

> > > Sally

> > >

> > > brownsauce66 wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Well it costs me 90usd for 45 days supply. That might be a

good

> > > > enough reason not to prescribe....!

> > > >

> > > > j

> > > > x

> > > >

> > > > -- In Autism-Biomedical-Europe

> > <mailto:Autism-Biomedical-Europe%40yahoogroups.com>

> > > > <mailto:Autism-Biomedical-Europe%40yahoogroups.com>,

Neno/Natasa

> > > > <neno@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > p.s. Memantine has some pretty convincing studies for

autism.

> > > > The type that a

> > > > > > GP/PCT would have to fight hard to refuse rx :)

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > nx

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memantine

> > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memantine>

> > > > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memantine

> > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Memantine>>

> > > > > >

> > > > > > And autism. I guess that since it doesn't work for

Alzheimers

> > the

> > > > > > pharmaceutical companies are casting round for a

condition it

> > > > might work for

> > > > > > Sally

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ----------------------------------------------------------

> > ------

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > No virus found in this incoming message.

> > > > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com <http://www.avg.com>

> > > > Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.8.4/1753 - Release

Date:

> > 28/10/2008 21:20

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> > ------------------------------------------------------------------

------

> >

> >

> > No virus found in this incoming message.

> > Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com

> > Version: 8.0.175 / Virus Database: 270.8.4/1753 - Release Date:

28/10/2008 21:20

> >

> >

>

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