Re: Re: Hurting shoulders Kombucha's fault?

[Guest guest]

>I wish I had a definite answer to your problem, since I have a similar one

>myself: neck and shoulder pains which affect my arms, just as you describe.

>

>I have a nasty suspicion that the fault lies with my not drinking enough

>water. How is your water consumption... and I mean clear water!?

>

>We are supposed to drink at least as much water as we drink diuretic drinks

>like Kombucha, Kefir, coffee and tea .

Margret I do believe you are correct. I think it's a water issue.

But also, Terry, you might want to see a chiropractor as well-- just

because if your muscles get dehydrated and start spasming, that can pull

your spine out of alignment, further exacerbating the problem.

Water! Clear cool water!

--V

--V

~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

--A.J. Muste

[Guest guest]

I have to agree with Marge. I have done many detoxes this past year

and all the reading I did said that you have to drink plenty of water

to flush out the toxins otherwise your body will store it in the

joints again.The water on the knee I had was Candida fungus. Also if

you dont drink enough fluids your toxin buildup could mimic cold

syptoms. So try drinking more water and see if it helps.

Best of luck, nne

In original_kombucha , Margret Pegg

wrote:

>

>

> > I really hate to bother you, but I need some help.

> > I have been drinking Kombucha for about 6 months now. Ive had

knee problems for years(my knee swells badly) Once I started with

the Kombucha my knee got better !!! Im so happy Here is the

problem = Now my shoulders have started hurting so bad I cant even

move my arms. I quit drinking the tea and my shoulders got better

but my knee started swelling again ?? Now Im only drinking about

once a week. Still even at once a week my shoulders will hurt the

next day. What could cause this ?? Or is there something the tea

takes out of your body that I might need to supplementing.

>

> Hi Terry,

>

> I wish I had a definite answer to your problem, since I have a

similar one

> myself: neck and shoulder pains which affect my arms, just as you

describe.

>

> I have a nasty suspicion that the fault lies with my not drinking

enough

> water. How is your water consumption... and I mean clear water!?

>

> We are supposed to drink at least as much water as we drink

diuretic drinks

> like Kombucha, Kefir, coffee and tea .

>

> So, in a way, your query is a God-send to remind me of my own short-

comings.

> I shall and I will try to turn over a new leaf and improve my water

intake

> without altering any of my other liquid intakes.

>

> I'll let you know what I find. I'd be grateful if you would give me

a

> feedback on your liquid intake.

>

> So, my advice to you (and to myself) is:

>

> Every drink (other than water) needs to be followed by at least the

same

> amount of clear water, preferably more ...

>

> That's probably only the start of our dietary investigation.

>

> With best wishes

>

> Margret:-)

>

> BTW, My husband drinks far more Kombucha than I do and does not

suffer at

> all from any muscular/joint complaints..... he does however drink

his

> Kombucha with fizzy mineral water. Could that make so much

difference, I

> wonder?

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Lets talk about feeling good......Have you ever ate a food or drink that you

haven't had in a while, and your body gives you a wonderful feeling all the

way to your toes when you give it what it needs.....kinda sorta the same

thing....When your immune system gets a jump start from whatever is in the

Kombucha, stands to reason you gonna feel better, but unlike caffeine, and other

stimulants....Kombucha doesn't cause you to crash...but rather, It keeps on

working long after you don't notice the good feeling anymore....Water and more

water is the answer.......Especially if you are drinking a lot of

kombucha......You don't drink water, then you are going to blame all manner of

aches and

pains on kombucha.....as well as your next cold.....The wife and I have been

there and done that, and finally DUH!! we are now drinking lots of water,

and enjoying our kombucha, and just sit back and let it do, what it has been

doing to folks for thousands of years....Ron and Vivian in leander tx

Your sleep and dreams will tell you Kombucha is at work....I promise

[Guest guest]

Lets talk about feeling good......Have you ever ate a food or drink that you

haven't had in a while, and your body gives you a wonderful feeling all the

way to your toes when you give it what it needs.....kinda sorta the same

thing....When your immune system gets a jump start from whatever is in the

Kombucha, stands to reason you gonna feel better, but unlike caffeine, and other

stimulants....Kombucha doesn't cause you to crash...but rather, It keeps on

working long after you don't notice the good feeling anymore....Water and more

water is the answer.......Especially if you are drinking a lot of

kombucha......You don't drink water, then you are going to blame all manner of

aches and

pains on kombucha.....as well as your next cold.....The wife and I have been

there and done that, and finally DUH!! we are now drinking lots of water,

and enjoying our kombucha, and just sit back and let it do, what it has been

doing to folks for thousands of years....Ron and Vivian in leander tx

Your sleep and dreams will tell you Kombucha is at work....I promise

[Guest guest]

, I doubt very much if your problem is caffeine. I have a familial

tremor which is very sensitive to even low doses of caffeine. Large amounts

of KT do not bother me at all, I feel energized but no " jitters " and no

tremors. The very tiny amount of caffeine that remains in the KT does not

seem to bother me at all. My guess is there is something else going on with

you something other than caffeine. Years ago I had to eliminate all sources

of caffeine from my diet, this includes, coffee, tea, chocolate and excedrine

or any other medication with caffeine in it. Guarana and Ephedra have the

same effect as the caffeine so I have to avoid them like the plague. KT has

never bothered me in any negative way.

I agree with the others that your plain water intake is not sufficient for your

needs and the toxins are building up in your body. Alternatively you may be

having an allergic reaction to something in the KT. How are you with other

vinegars?

Huggs

zoe

Saturday, January 27, 2007, 3:54:24 PM, you wrote:

Thanks for your comments and sympathies nne. I did use green tea

for my brew because of its low caffeine content. I really don't

believe its anything to do with what kind of tea we use, though, but

is something coming from the scoby itself that makes added caffeine in

very high measures. I say this because the tension that I'm feeling

in my shoulder muscles wouldn't be this bad if I'd drunk 20 cups of

regular black tea straight off - so the caffeine content must be very

high in the Kombucha tea. Could it be possible, I wonder, if this is

why we are all so full of energy on KT - because of the high caffeine

content! It seems very likely.

Kind regards

" The future belongs to those who believe in the power of their

dreams " - Sheridan

> Hi , Sorry to hear about your shoulders. KT is a diuretic and

> does have caffeine. I make mine with white or green tea because they

> have less caffiene. Have you tried a chiropractor, I swear by

> mine.Drink lots of water to get rid of the toxins otherwise like I

> said in my other post, your body will redeposit it in your joints.

> Best wishes, nne

[Guest guest]

About shoulders....this may sound like a strange idea, but I find if over

and over. How are your bowels? Stiff necks/shoulders are often attributed

to constipation. If you are detoxing and your bowels aren’t' moving, you can

get into trouble. Kombucha has lots of great bacteria and will help the

good bacteria overtake the “bad” bacteria in your guts, but ya gotta keep

things moving. Again…water, water, water.

Cheers,

Judy

>

>Reply-To: original_kombucha

>To: Boyce <original_kombucha >

>Subject: Re: Re: Hurting shoulders Kombucha's fault?

>Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 17:33:34 -0800

>

> , I doubt very much if your problem is caffeine. I have a

>familial tremor which is very sensitive to even low doses of caffeine.

>Large amounts of KT do not bother me at all, I feel energized but no

> " jitters " and no tremors. The very tiny amount of caffeine that remains

>in the KT does not seem to bother me at all. My guess is there is

>something else going on with you something other than caffeine. Years

>ago I had to eliminate all sources of caffeine from my diet, this

>includes, coffee, tea, chocolate and excedrine or any other medication

>with caffeine in it. Guarana and Ephedra have the same effect as the

>caffeine so I have to avoid them like the plague. KT has never bothered

>me in any negative way.

>

>I agree with the others that your plain water intake is not sufficient for

>your needs and the toxins are building up in your body. Alternatively

>you may be having an allergic reaction to something in the KT. How are

>you with other vinegars?

>

>Huggs

>zoe

>

>Saturday, January 27, 2007, 3:54:24 PM, you wrote:

>Thanks for your comments and sympathies nne. I did use green tea

>for my brew because of its low caffeine content. I really don't

>believe its anything to do with what kind of tea we use, though, but

>is something coming from the scoby itself that makes added caffeine in

>very high measures. I say this because the tension that I'm feeling

>in my shoulder muscles wouldn't be this bad if I'd drunk 20 cups of

>regular black tea straight off - so the caffeine content must be very

>high in the Kombucha tea. Could it be possible, I wonder, if this is

>why we are all so full of energy on KT - because of the high caffeine

>content! It seems very likely.

>

>Kind regards

>

>

>

>

> " The future belongs to those who believe in the power of their

>dreams " - Sheridan

>

>

>

> > Hi , Sorry to hear about your shoulders. KT is a diuretic and

> > does have caffeine. I make mine with white or green tea because they

> > have less caffiene. Have you tried a chiropractor, I swear by

> > mine.Drink lots of water to get rid of the toxins otherwise like I

> > said in my other post, your body will redeposit it in your joints.

> > Best wishes, nne

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

, very glad to hear you've had success with attending to your water

intake. One thought:

> wrote: " I'm thinking you might benefit from whole, natural

>salt, which is salt with the mineral profile intact "

>

>I've read several of Dr Batmanghelidj's books on water

>(including " Your Body's Many Cries For Water " , and he said that,

>having taken natural salt for some time he began to lose his

>health. He does, however, suggest using salt that contains iodine -

>something that's lacking in normal table salt. I've been using this

>for about a year now and don't dehydrate as much as I did. But I

>will try the natural salts in addition to the iodized salt (but

>won't overdo it!). Thanks for the suggestion!

The natural salt has plenty of iodine in the right proportion to the other

minerals. Iodine is part of what is stripped from salt. I have been using

the natural salt for a couple of years and have finally recovered from a

mineral imbalance I got a few years ago during a 2-week Native American

Ceremony in the high Arizona desert when I forgot to take any salt and

didn't get enough water. I think Dr Batmanghelidj is mistaken about the

source of his health problems. That's kinda like saying someone gets sick

from eating whole wheat flour instead of white flour, except that salt is,

like water and air, absolutely essential to human life.

>So, V, things are improving already. I've started drinking my KT

>mixed in a large glass of water now in the morning - and drinking

>the correct amount of water daily ... and some more to boot.

>Hurting shoulders are no longer a problem. I hope the other ladies

>who had hurting shoulders have read your posts too - including

>Margret.

> >

> wrote: " wishing you well, "

>

>Thanks - I'm sure I'll get there in the end. And thanks

>again for the kick up the butt. ))))

heheheh... glad it was helpful

--V

~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

--A.J. Muste

[Guest guest]

, very glad to hear you've had success with attending to your water

intake. One thought:

> wrote: " I'm thinking you might benefit from whole, natural

>salt, which is salt with the mineral profile intact "

>

>I've read several of Dr Batmanghelidj's books on water

>(including " Your Body's Many Cries For Water " , and he said that,

>having taken natural salt for some time he began to lose his

>health. He does, however, suggest using salt that contains iodine -

>something that's lacking in normal table salt. I've been using this

>for about a year now and don't dehydrate as much as I did. But I

>will try the natural salts in addition to the iodized salt (but

>won't overdo it!). Thanks for the suggestion!

The natural salt has plenty of iodine in the right proportion to the other

minerals. Iodine is part of what is stripped from salt. I have been using

the natural salt for a couple of years and have finally recovered from a

mineral imbalance I got a few years ago during a 2-week Native American

Ceremony in the high Arizona desert when I forgot to take any salt and

didn't get enough water. I think Dr Batmanghelidj is mistaken about the

source of his health problems. That's kinda like saying someone gets sick

from eating whole wheat flour instead of white flour, except that salt is,

like water and air, absolutely essential to human life.

>So, V, things are improving already. I've started drinking my KT

>mixed in a large glass of water now in the morning - and drinking

>the correct amount of water daily ... and some more to boot.

>Hurting shoulders are no longer a problem. I hope the other ladies

>who had hurting shoulders have read your posts too - including

>Margret.

> >

> wrote: " wishing you well, "

>

>Thanks - I'm sure I'll get there in the end. And thanks

>again for the kick up the butt. ))))

heheheh... glad it was helpful

--V

~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

--A.J. Muste