Re: A question for all the KT drinkers that went OT

January 28, 2007

Sandy, it IS harder but it's so much more worth it. We went to

Sam's Club and my husband commented on how we could feed our family

SO CHEAP if we just ate 'crap'.

Just think...although it's information that's JUST NOW becoming more

readily available to the public, hopefully in a few years, more

people will learn about the wonderful foods that are out there and

it will hopefully become mainstream and be easier on our budgets.

Hang in there :-).

>

> >

> > Oh, Sandy, I meant to say something about the food pyramid. A

few

> years

> > ago the USDA did studies and were going to redesign the food

> pyramid. I

> > can't remember how it looked then, but they wanted to make it so

> that meat

> > and dairy was in the tiniest part of the pyramid, with whole

> grains and

> > veggies and fruits given a much larger portion. That was shot

> down by the

> > Meat and Dairy Industries, so a " compromise " pyramid was decided

> on and

> > that's the " new " pyramid that is taught today. How

> you " compromise " on

> > science is an interesting question, but just to back up your

> awareness that

> > the pyramid is not based on truth, it is based on business

> interests.

> >

> > I know this because I've indexed this material a couple of times

> in my work.

> >

> > --V

> >

> ,

> The entire thing makes me want to cry I am so angry. Fools and

> stupid people get far in this world. I now walk around the grocery

> and I want to sling those " healthy " foods up against the wall. I

> pick them up and read the ingredients and I get sad. Then I look

at

> the pittance that is offered for anyone who wants to change. I can

> do it. I now have the means but it is a shame that I have to

> overspend to be healthy!! No one around here who is poor can eat

> healthily. It is stupid and I blame the government for taking

pocket

> bribes from the big companies. Now that is getting WAY off topic

and

> I do not mean to so I will just pray that we can all find more

ways

> to inform people.

> Sandy

>

January 28, 2007

Fabulous! Thank you. My best friend and I 'thought' that it was

safe for them since they LOVE drinking it (especially when it's nice

and fizzy) and since we saw no adverse affects...although I found

that I couldn't allow my 2yr old to drink out of my cup because then

he'd drink too much of it when I only intended to give him a sip or

two. I found when he drank more than I expected him to, he wouldn't

eat as much so I started giving it to him in between meals or after

his meals.

We try to rely on our gut feelings but then are vulnerable when it

comes to our children because there is so much (mis) information

trying to scare you into doing or not doing something.

>

> > Since my 'baby' (2yrs old) is

> >younger than the recommended age (that I have read in various

> >resources) to give him KT, I am reluctant now to bathe him in KT

> >cream / soap since it will penetrate his pores.

>

> I recommend the following source to follow, which is a link from

Gunther

> 's website, with a chart for suggested amounts based on age,

along

> with some supportive information. The guideline suggested is that

when a

> baby can be given honey, it can be given KT. That age is 1yo.

Check it

> out. Gunther is one of the most respected, authoritative

sources on

> KT. Many of the websites about KT are cribbed from his site.

>

> http://www.kombu.de/children.htm

>

> I understand your desire to make the best possible choice with

respect to

> care of your children. However, some people want to medicalize KT

and make

> it into a big deal so that they can be the Authority, which sells

services

> and products.

>

> btw, Colleen is one of the people G. quotes on the

weblink

> above, and she was the venerated List Mother of this list, and the

author

> of our associated FAQ, for a long time before her passing. She is

quoted

> as wholeheartedly in favor of children having KT. Her observation

was that

> when young children are given KT, they are sick less, and that the

effects

> extend throughout their lives. Margret also was pregnant and

nursed while

> drinking KT, and fed her children KT from young ages, and she

agrees with

> Colleen's observations.

>

> These people theorizing about age 4 age 5-- that's just theory,

imo, the

> real proof is experience.

>

> --V

>

> ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

> --A.J. Muste

>

January 28, 2007

Fabulous! Thank you. My best friend and I 'thought' that it was

safe for them since they LOVE drinking it (especially when it's nice

and fizzy) and since we saw no adverse affects...although I found

that I couldn't allow my 2yr old to drink out of my cup because then

he'd drink too much of it when I only intended to give him a sip or

two. I found when he drank more than I expected him to, he wouldn't

eat as much so I started giving it to him in between meals or after

his meals.

We try to rely on our gut feelings but then are vulnerable when it

comes to our children because there is so much (mis) information

trying to scare you into doing or not doing something.

>

> > Since my 'baby' (2yrs old) is

> >younger than the recommended age (that I have read in various

> >resources) to give him KT, I am reluctant now to bathe him in KT

> >cream / soap since it will penetrate his pores.

>

> I recommend the following source to follow, which is a link from

Gunther

> 's website, with a chart for suggested amounts based on age,

along

> with some supportive information. The guideline suggested is that

when a

> baby can be given honey, it can be given KT. That age is 1yo.

Check it

> out. Gunther is one of the most respected, authoritative

sources on

> KT. Many of the websites about KT are cribbed from his site.

>

> http://www.kombu.de/children.htm

>

> I understand your desire to make the best possible choice with

respect to

> care of your children. However, some people want to medicalize KT

and make

> it into a big deal so that they can be the Authority, which sells

services

> and products.

>

> btw, Colleen is one of the people G. quotes on the

weblink

> above, and she was the venerated List Mother of this list, and the

author

> of our associated FAQ, for a long time before her passing. She is

quoted

> as wholeheartedly in favor of children having KT. Her observation

was that

> when young children are given KT, they are sick less, and that the

effects

> extend throughout their lives. Margret also was pregnant and

nursed while

> drinking KT, and fed her children KT from young ages, and she

agrees with

> Colleen's observations.

>

> These people theorizing about age 4 age 5-- that's just theory,

imo, the

> real proof is experience.

>

> --V

>

> ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

> --A.J. Muste

>

January 29, 2007

> > > By the way, for those that were considering...I contacted an

>organic

> > > co-op in my area and found out that I get 2 weeks of organic

>produce

> > > for $40.00.

Sounds good. However before you sign up, you should ask them exactly how

much that provides. They won't mind answering. Also, I think most people

would have trouble refrigerating that much produce at once, so maybe they

have a once-a-week pickup option? But definitely check out what they are

providing. This sounds like a great option.

Community Supported Agriculture (CSA) programs are another way to get

organic produce for much less money. These are where people sign up and

pay in advance for the entire season of produce, which the farmer then

delivers either to homes or to a central pickup point. This helps the

farmer by providing income at the beginning of the planting season in

spring when they need to buy seed and any soil amendments, and allows the

farmer to plan ahead for how much to plant. Some programs allow several

payments rather than a single one. Now is the time to start researching

these in the northern hemisphere.

--V

~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

--A.J. Muste

January 29, 2007